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Default [Feature request] Automatic MX Player Pro test build updates through Google Play

So I've noticed that test builds of MX Player Pro become available here however it's much easier to receive updates through the Play Store automatically rather than having to regularly check the website for new test builds. Many app developers use Google+ Communities or Google Groups that use Google's beta-testing and staged rollouts feature to automatically keep people in that group up to date with the testing version of an app so that if somebody is marked as a tester for the app on their Google account and they install the app through the Play Store then they will automatically receive the test version of the app rather than the regular stable version that most people will receive through the Play Store, this encourages more people to become testers and submit bug reports as well as makes the app updating process easier for testers and ensure that they're all up to date so they're not submitting bug reports for an old version of the app. Is there any chance of having something like this for MX Player Pro? I had a look around and couldn't find something like this but please show me if it already exists.

EDIT: If this could happen then it would also be very helpful for the custom codecs too.
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Anyways, someone has already asked before, and the developer said he will think about it for MX v2.0. The developer actually explicitly stopped using Play Store beta in the past for some unspecified reason.
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Anyways, someone has already asked before, and the developer said he will think about it for MX v2.0. The developer actually explicitly stopped using Play Store beta in the past for some unspecified reason.
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So I've noticed that test builds of MX Player Pro become available here however it's much easier to receive updates through the Play Store automatically rather than having to regularly check the website for new test builds. Many app developers use Google+ Communities or Google Groups that use Google's beta-testing and staged rollouts feature to automatically keep people in that group up to date with the testing version of an app so that if somebody is marked as a tester for the app on their Google account and they install the app through the Play Store then they will automatically receive the test version of the app rather than the regular stable version that most people will receive through the Play Store, this encourages more people to become testers and submit bug reports as well as makes the app updating process easier for testers and ensure that they're all up to date so they're not submitting bug reports for an old version of the app. Is there any chance of having something like this for MX Player Pro? I had a look around and couldn't find something like this but please show me if it already exists.

EDIT: If this could happen then it would also be very helpful for the custom codecs too.
These are the main concerns in android beta test.

1. For each and every minor update the changelog is to be entered in all supported languages. MX Player supports around 70+ languages & it's very difficult to enter the change log 70+ times for each and every minor updates.

2. As of now the test builds are mostly bug fix versions, not the one for testing new features. So, only recommended for those who has reported/facing the issue. They are getting informed through problem specific thread. Only they can report the particular issue is fixed or not. If it is in the case of beta test community once you opt in for beta & you will continue to get beta builds untill you opts out. So, it can't be used with average users for bug fixing.

3. We have planned to use a closed beta test community for the upcoming major upgrade v2.0 in which new features are to be tested before landing as stable. So, please watch this forum. We may announce the beta test once it's ready to test.

4. Regarding the custom codec, it's very difficult to maintain the custom codec for each and every test version. It will be compiled only from the ffmpeg source for stable version. Anyhow I will consider to compile the custom codec for beta too once beta testing is started.
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Thanks you both for the very quick and helpful replies.

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These are the main concerns in android beta test.

1. For each and every minor update the changelog is to be entered in all supported languages. MX Player supports around 70+ languages & it's very difficult to enter the change log 70+ times for each and every minor updates.

2. As of now the test builds are mostly bug fix versions, not the one for testing new features. So, only recommended for those who has reported/facing the issue. They are getting informed through problem specific thread. Only they can report the particular issue is fixed or not. If it is in the case of beta test community once you opt in for beta & you will continue to get beta builds untill you opts out. So, it can't be used with average users for bug fixing.

3. We have planned to use a closed beta test community for the upcoming major upgrade v2.0 in which new features are to be tested before landing as stable. So, please watch this forum. We may announce the beta test once it's ready to test.

4. Regarding the custom codec, it's very difficult to maintain the custom codec for each and every test version. It will be compiled only from the ffmpeg source for stable version. Anyhow I will consider to compile the custom codec for beta too once beta testing is started.
Regarding #1, I did not know they had to be published for betas, would it not be adequate to put something along the lines of "see changelog at https://sites.google.com/site/mxvpen/" (with the actual URL to a changelog) in each language or something? I guess even just the URL alone would be adequate and you wouldn't have to edit it for each language, it would only be for the few beta testers who wouldn't mind anyway.

Regarding #2, just because something is mainly bug fixes and not features does not mean that we'd prefer to test it than be on the stable build. I see your point about the average user, could this perhaps be worked around by changing the title and logo of the app slightly for beta builds like how Google do with Chrome and Chrome Beta? So the beta app could be called MX Player Pro Beta and have a little beta strap on the icon or have something inside the app that makes it obvious that you're still opted in for the beta and a button in a menu to take you directly to the opt-in/opt-out page?

Regarding #3, I will watch out for that, thanks! Do you have an ETA for v2.0?

Regarding #4, I'm a bit confused as to how you publish test builds of custom codecs, I though that because of this post you only have test builds of certain custom codecs at certain times, so you could just put the test builds in the play store for the custom codecs that actually have a test build
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Anyways, someone has already asked before, and the developer said he will think about it for MX v2.0. The developer actually explicitly stopped using Play Store beta in the past for some unspecified reason.
I didn't see the second part of your post. Do you not have any idea as to why they stopped using it and so do you think it's unlikely they'll use it again?
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I didn't see the second part of your post. Do you not have any idea as to why they stopped using it and so do you think it's unlikely they'll use it again?
My first 2 points are the reason.
One more point I have forgot to mention is that beta builds are not immediately rolled out. When we tested last time it took some time to be rolled out completely. Not everyone is getting the update immediately after uploading to the playstore. So, it is not the efficient way to test the bug fixes real time.

Releasing a seperate bata is again going to a head ache and will make confusion. There is no way to switch to stable version untill or unless the user updates the stable build. Otherwise we have to maintain two applications separately.

Be Patience till we call for beta test for v2.0.
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My first 2 points are the reason.
One more point I have forgot to mention is that beta builds are not immediately rolled out. When we tested last time it took some time to be rolled out completely. Not everyone is getting the update immediately after uploading to the playstore. So, it is not the efficient way to test the bug fixes real time.

Releasing a seperate bata is again going to a head ache and will make confusion. There is no way to switch to stable version untill or unless the user updates the stable build. Otherwise we have to maintain two applications separately.

Be Patience till we call for beta test for v2.0.
Ah okay, well then for the moment is there any mailing list that I can easily subscribe/unsubscribe to for updates to the test builds of MX Player Pro or the custom codec for ARMv7 NEON?
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This forum is the place to watch regarding updates.

ktsamy's custom codec thread has all the updates regarding his custom codec.

Regarding MX Player bug fix versions, the developer will reference a beta version whenever one is created to address a specific issue highlighted in a forum thread here. The developer always posts test builds on his own website here: https://sites.google.com/site/mxvpen...ion/test-build
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