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kieranbass
6th June 2003, 02:04 AM
Hi all..I recently bought an XDA from an O2 outlet here in Ireland which I subsequently sent back due to speaker problems. Having waited two days for my replacement XDA, (in the interim I was given a Nokia 5110 as a substitute phone, I'm sure they got it out of a musuem..) I finally picked it up yesterday. The retailer told me it was a brand new phone and that it had come out of a sealed box. When I picked up the phone I noticed marks on the top of the aerial consistent with a fall or even with someone nibbling on it! I pointed this out to the retailer and was assured again that the phone was brand new. Giving the benefit of the doubt I brought the phone home, hooked it up to the PC and went to adjust the memory allocation as I was gonna transfer a large number of mp3s to it. Now the XDA I originally bought had 64MB RAM, the unit I was given as its replacement had 32MB RAM - so much for it being a brand new phone! Also the battery took less than 2 hours to fully charge - on my original XDA the initial charge took approx 4 hours with subsequent recharges taking about 2 hours, the same length of time my supposedly "new" XDA took to fully charge on what should have been it's initial charge.

At this point something a friend said with regard to technology popped into my head, call it paranoia but he is fully convinced that Ireland receives the rejects, previously repaired, or just downright faulty items of technology where they are pawned off as being brand new. My experience with this XDA seems to bear it out. I rang the O2 retailer back and informed them that the phone I received was not new and when I explained my reasons why, I was told that the phone was probably a new one alright but that it had just been sitting in its box in a shop and not sold, hence the 32MB rather than 64MB version I was given. It didn't explain the marks around the aerial or why the initial charge took only as long as a phone that's been in use before to charge.

Am I being paranoid here or are companies chancing their arm by sending units that are technically second hand to Ireland (or other countries for that matter) for resale as new units? Does anyone else have a similiar experience, not necessarily with the XDA but with other top of the range (and expensive!) products, technological or otherwise?

Nossie
6th June 2003, 04:59 AM
Personally I'd take it back and tell them where to stick it....

Even if it is brand new... you bought a 64mb XDA...

It does sound rather fishy though... I think you've got enough reason to be 'paranoid'.

ask them how a brand new XDA can have only 32mb of RAM... I doubt they'll be able to give you that answer...

I've heard on various occasions companies such as dixons selling 'brand new' hardware (computers in one instance) where the customer brought it home to find the previous owners information including credit card number and other sensitive stuff...

Its not necessarily O2 that are screwing you over... it could be their manager or area manager that’s trying to cut a little from their budget...

either way that phone certainly doesn't sound 'brand' new.... probably someone’s reject that took it back last year.

Ian.

Anonymous
15th June 2003, 12:41 AM
I had the exact same thing from O2 as well, you might have my old phone, I bought a 32mb one but the screen was scatched so they excahnged it again for another crap one, so I rang O2 UK and told them my worries and I got one sent fromt he UK, perfect and no worries at all. Its cheaper in the UK aswell. You are legally entitled to a full refund if it does not meet the standards you expected and was told about "not fit for the purpose it was sold" is the lawyers talk!! I spoke to a mate who works for O2 in Limerick (head office) and told me that they do actually refurb the phones. for returns etc. so I would demand a brand new one with 64mb and threaten them with vodafone or metior that will scare them!!

Gary

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Anonymous
15th June 2003, 02:26 PM
hi
you need to kick up a fuss e-mail trading, or. or europe and every one you can think of this is disgracefull dont take there c***

kieranbass
15th June 2003, 03:40 PM
Just to update you on my phone situation...having been told that my replacement XDA was a new unit I tried a few things to prove/disprove this...I backed up my calendar and contact info using Permanent Save and when I hit OK it backed up my info but it also restored the previously stored info on the phone, which, if as alleged, this phone was new then there should have been no such info already on the phone. Not to my surprise when I went into my contacts there were names and numbers that I did not recognise. I even have the home number of the individual who previously owned my phone! So what I'm wondering now is what to do next, who can I complain to and what will O2 do to compensate me for their mistake?

Also the retailer from whom I bought the phone left a voice message saying they have a brand new 64MB XDA waiting for me instore. It will be interesting to see if in fact the phone is brand new and not a refurb as Gary says is the norm for O2. Cheers for your tale Gary, I was contemplating getting a refund but I love my XDA and hopefully I'll have no problems with this next unit. Will keep you posted.

Anonymous
17th June 2003, 05:07 PM
Hi

Just to let you know the 32Mb model was released early, and was replaced by the 64mb model. There was an offer for o2 staff, including family and friends to purchase the 32mb xda for 99 pounds ( i did !)

I also recall that the o2 shops had a limited supply of 32mb xda (advertised as reconditioned) which they were selling for 99 pounds.

You may have got one of these phones. It may have been a genuine mistake from the store. However, they cannot give you a 32mb model in exchange for a 64mb model.

Nossie
22nd June 2003, 04:28 AM
nice to see your retailer is offering you a 64mb one...

what happened?

cheers,
Ian.