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Anonymous
16-06-2003, 06:42 PM
I have totally hosed my TMobile device and I am looking to rebuild straight to the 1.1 build instead of going back to TMobile first (although that may be an option)...

If I can reflash with the TMobile ROM (256k or so), which files and how would I load the system up with the 1.1 build???

Or would I be better off rebuilding to TMobile original and then running the executable to load the 1.1 build???

Any help would be appreciated...

Todd

Peter Poelman
16-06-2003, 08:02 PM
If I can reflash with the TMobile ROM (256k or so), which files and how would I load the system up with the 1.1 build???

Or would I be better off rebuilding to TMobile original and then running the executable to load the 1.1 build???
Not sure I understand. The 256 k you're referring to is the size of the bootloader, maybe? You don't need to change the bootloader, it's fine the way it is.
Unless it's a 5.17 bootloader, in which case you may want to replace it with something more 'userfriendly', so to speak (5.17 has a feature to prevent you from easily flashing the device, we hacked said mechanism, but it's still a hassle)..
Anyway: your goal is to replace the OS. If your device still talks to ActiveSync, just run Jeff's exe file that installs our Special Edition ROM v1.1 and you're all set. If it does not, get an SD-acrd reader/writer for your PC, and use XDArit and the bootloader method to flash your ROM.

OldManTod
16-06-2003, 08:06 PM
I am back at ground zero.. The 256 is the actual baseline from what I understand....

Basically the first step to upgrade is to backup the ROM and that is what is toast...

At this point I can't get to activesync, the device just resets it self over and over again (albeit it slowly)...

I have a version 5.15 bootloader, I am ok there...

I am going to search around in here to use XDARit (downloaded already) and try to find the bootloader method to flash my ROM (I am trying to find a good copy of the TMobile ROM now)..

Thanks for any assistance you can lend...

Todd

update - I can't seem to locate the Bootloader Method you are referring to?? - Todd

Peter Poelman
16-06-2003, 08:10 PM
If you drag [url=http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDA-developers-SER-v11.exeJeff's file[/url] to winzip, you'll see the v1.1 Special Edition ROM nbf-file in there. You can just read that to SD-card using XDArit, and you'll be all set. No need to first install T-Mobile's ROM.

OldManTod
16-06-2003, 08:15 PM
basically at this point I formatted my only backup due to the only card avail is 128meg...

I will run the XDArit now....

After I write to the card, what do I do on the phone to load the software from the card???

Peter Poelman
16-06-2003, 08:30 PM
After I write to the card, what do I do on the phone to load the software from the card???
Simply insert the card and boot into bootloader (pressing power while resetting), and it will ask you to press the action button if you want to flash the contents of the card. The action button is the center of the big rocker key.

OldManTod
16-06-2003, 08:35 PM
XDARite is blowing off when trying to write to the SD card...

To use XDARite you just use the Fat format??? I am rebooting with card in writer so that the volume will show on startup...

I have a Lexar Card reader and trying to run XDARite from XP and selecting the ~32 meg .nbf file from Jeff's update....

Thanks again for any thoughts...

Todd

p.s. You are a busy poster today :)

Peter Poelman
16-06-2003, 08:45 PM
XDARite is blowing off when trying to write to the SD card...
Blowing off ?? I'm afraid I'm not familiar with this terminology.

To use XDARite you just use the Fat format??? I am rebooting with card in writer so that the volume will show on startup...
No, the card is written to in RAW mode by XDArit, so XDArit destroys any file-system present on the card when it writes to it. It says so on the page, just read...

p.s. You are a busy poster today :)
Look who's talking! :)

Anonymous
16-06-2003, 09:01 PM
that is where I am stuck at... for some reason, I can read/write to the card, but XDARit cannot....

Has anybody experienced this before with XP and an External USB device????

T

Anonymous
16-06-2003, 10:46 PM
mine was fine. i used xdairt to load the image. actually for me my activestink disconnected while i was loading the rom image and i had to use sd card.


alex

Anonymous
16-06-2003, 11:16 PM
hi there, oldmantodd,

my usb sd-card reader is also not working, but i managed to rebuild my xda in the following way:

first thing you need is another xda/mda whatever
second you boot this device in bootloader mode, press the rec-button ( the one on the side) and choose backup ce

once you backupped this devices operating system, just boot your wrecked device in bootloader mode with the sd-card containing the backup

now it asks you if you want to download teh ce from sd card,
just confirm this and after a while your device is fine again..

jope this helps!!

best regards tim

fastblazer
17-06-2003, 07:47 AM
not work if using 5.17 bootloader, i have 2 xda (1 damage) and 256m sd card, any suggest how to solve this problem?
i dont have card reader, getting frustasion,plsss help
thz

MrDollyMaker
17-06-2003, 11:51 AM
For those who noticed this "Lost USB COnnection" problem during the installation of the ROM. I found that as long as you don't resit the unit, just carefully disconnect it from the usb, move the mouse over the active sync icon by your clock so it dissapears or you only have 1 left. (restart if needed if none are there) and than reconnect the update program will resume the upgrade or restart it. I noticed this problem on 2 rom updates. On one of the times I actually had to re-run the update program after I reconnected the usb sync cable (cradle)

Flished perfictly well! :D

I have bootloader 5.15
If someone has the ORIGINAL (any version is good to me) of T-Mobile's Rom's as mine got screwed before I could back them up... Hence the reason for my upgrades... I would love it if you could leave me a note as I really could use the originals to re-install.

Anonymous
17-06-2003, 07:03 PM
Is that the same as going to boot mode and the pressing contacts and writing ce+boot???

I am at the point where I have probably got to start from the very beginning...

I tried the method of writing ce+boot from another device and then flashing mine and no luck...

I am starting to get desperate....

Thanks for any help...

Todd

Anonymous
17-06-2003, 07:22 PM
yeah, it is the same as pressing contacts and write boot+ce, after that is written ob the sd-card just put that sd-card in your damaged device and boot it in bootloader mode.
it will then say something like sd-card contains boot+ce, do you want to download, the press the action button and there you go - your damaged device is being flashed and everything should be ok..

good luck

Anonymous
17-06-2003, 07:39 PM
is it possible I hosed my device beyond recognition???

T

Anonymous
17-06-2003, 07:41 PM
would that do me any good???

Right now... the device comes up with unrecognized card and then sits for a while with the keyboard and the error screen to enter a name for the card... and after a bit it soft resets and goes through the same thing...

T

MrDollyMaker
17-06-2003, 08:19 PM
Ok, sounds like you didn't boot to the bootloader... If you do a hard reset (the little button with the battery indicator above it) and hold the power button (the button on the top left) while you turn it back on it will start the boot loader. Make sure your card with the Boot+CE writen to it is in the expansion slot before you do this and it will automatically start in the Autoload screen. Just push the action button (the control pad straight in) to start.

Hope that bit helped.

OldManTod
17-06-2003, 09:08 PM
as well...

When I do that of course I get to GSM error....

Can anyone verify to rebuild from the ground up from another device I would follow these steps:

Boot Good device from power+soft reset
At menu press contacts button
at the flash tools menu select CD+Boot to SD
Let the software write to the SD then remove card
On my device (which needs rebuilt)
Press Power and Boot
Unit will detect info on card
and just press action button

That is my understanding, however, there are other options on the flash tools menu that I have not investigated...

Any help as always would be appreciated...

Todd

Peter Poelman
17-06-2003, 09:16 PM
Boot Good device from power+soft reset
At menu press contacts button
at the flash tools menu select CD+Boot to SD
Let the software write to the SD then remove card
On my device (which needs rebuilt)
Press Power and Boot
Unit will detect info on card
and just press action button

The sequence above should work (I assume you know 'press power and boot' means keeping the power button pressed while soft-resetting).

You could write only CE to SD-card, no need to transfer the bootloader. If the above works, it means the receiving device has a functioning bootloader, if it doesn't then it won't be able to take the new bootloader.

fastblazer
18-06-2003, 09:34 AM
as i told before, i just have 2 xda (no card reader) and all of them running on 5.17 bootloader so cannt backup anything to sd card coz invalid card-key.

so wut can i do now, still waiting for othet method, thx anyway

MrDollyMaker
18-06-2003, 05:57 PM
as i told before, i just have 2 xda (no card reader) and all of them running on 5.17 bootloader so cannt backup anything to sd card coz invalid card-key.

so wut can i do now, still waiting for othet method, thx anyway

Simply use the Wallaby Bootloader Patch from the ROM imge tool section.

fastblazer
18-06-2003, 06:16 PM
wish i could if i have the card reader :oops:

MrDollyMaker
19-06-2003, 05:53 AM
wish i could if i have the card reader :oops:

Hmmm.... I guess I do see your point on the problem now... :oops:

If you are in the U.S. a generic SD card reader usually goes for about $20. I got mine from CompUSA for $15. It's USB 2.0 so goes REALLY fast! :P

If you're not in the U.S. and don't have some place local to get one, check around on the net. I've seen them fairly cheap at some of the places and some don't even charge shipping!

Good Luck,
Misterdollymaker

fastblazer
19-06-2003, 07:12 AM
thx, thats the prob im not in US, u can see my profile im from aceh, there is a war conflict so isolated from send or receive package, cannt order from anywhere :oops:

Anonymous
19-06-2003, 12:18 PM
Boot Good device from power+soft reset
At menu press contacts button
at the flash tools menu select CD+Boot to SD
Let the software write to the SD then remove card
On my device (which needs rebuilt)
Press Power and Boot
Unit will detect info on card
and just press action button

The sequence above should work (I assume you know 'press power and boot' means keeping the power button pressed while soft-resetting).

You could write only CE to SD-card, no need to transfer the bootloader. If the above works, it means the receiving device has a functioning bootloader, if it doesn't then it won't be able to take the new bootloader.

Maybe he need update GSM rom, because i have same problem. I receive GSM error after upgrade my German O2 to English rom, and install radio upgrade. Device still work but very slow, and no GSM function on them. But i don't understand how i can download GSM from other XDA it say what i need to plug to RS-232 cable for what?

Anonymous
19-06-2003, 02:28 PM
And i think all problem with GSM error occurs then i upgrade Radio, because after i upgrade ROM with to new english OS everything will be ok. But after Radio upgrade ended i got slow working device. In wallaby menu reports GSM error. After i take good rom from other device only CE(active sync doesn't work) and reflash nothing changed. After i reflash CE+BOOT i got same problem as "OldManTod", loads only white screen with blue strip.

OldManTod
19-06-2003, 03:33 PM
send out for a board replacement...

I will have to send to ipaqrepair.com cuz I have the 64 meg upgrade and I don't want to lose that....

At this point, I am going to have to pay 150 bones to have this thing fixed, unless somebody has a clue as to what the problem may be...

I have went to a working phone and tried to download each of the components individually and write to my phone and I get the same strip with the same error messages...

I have hit the wall and ready to have the whole unit replaced...

Any heads up would be greatly appreciated...

Todd

Anonymous
19-06-2003, 03:39 PM
send out for a board replacement...

I will have to send to ipaqrepair.com cuz I have the 64 meg upgrade and I don't want to lose that....

At this point, I am going to have to pay 150 bones to have this thing fixed, unless somebody has a clue as to what the problem may be...

I have went to a working phone and tried to download each of the components individually and write to my phone and I get the same strip with the same error messages...

I have hit the wall and ready to have the whole unit replaced...

Any heads up would be greatly appreciated...

Todd

Maybe this topic (http://xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=149) helps you.

OldManTod
19-06-2003, 07:56 PM
But at this point my antenna has an X by it and I cannot run either the executable or the ATT Update...

The executable terminates because right now with how hosed the device is, it is not showing as being plugged in.

The ATT Update just sits there...

Making progress, but still not functional...

Any thoughts.... Bueller... Bueller..... anyone....

OMT

Anonymous
22-06-2003, 08:14 PM
http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDA-developers-SER-v11.exe isnt working anymore, any suggestions?