ROM version 4.00.16 is here!!!

[Aurora13]

First of all: thanks to netkim for upoading!!!

On my FTP you will find:
- mtty-new.exe (to upload the BIN files, BUT I suggest use the OSIMAGETOOL from xda-developers)
- SN40011wwe_AWS.zip (BIN file of 4.00.11 without the T-Mobile utilities)
- SN40016wwe_VS.zip (BIN file of 4.00.16 WITH the T-Mobile utilities)

Since it is easy to remove the utilities I suggest the 4.00.16 version: (which is already on my XDA :))

1. Remove the Batterry monitor link from windows\startup
2. Disable the T-Mobile Today plugin
3. Remove program files\aim (If you like MSN :))
4. Remove program files\tmobile


ftp.alain-net.net
usn: xda
pwd: xda

[vbexpert]

Is there any differences compare to the previous version?

[McLEI]

Thanks a much!

Yuo are writting that it is easy to remove T-Mobile utilities. How do you mean that? Removing StartUp links to disable starting these utilities? Or you know how to free ROM space used by these utilities?

[Aurora13]

I edited my first post

[vbexpert]

Beside T-Mobile utilities, is there any differences?

[vbexpert]

Beside T-Mobile utilities, is there any differences? Does it have SIM Tool Kit?

[McLEI]

How can I obtain numbers for _\cfg\params file in Kitchen, used for extracting ROM image?

[karlic]

Is this ROM for 900/1800 or 900/1900MHz?
THNX

[Aurora13]

Nothing must different, but haven't tested much since I have it only for about three hours :)

@karlic
It depence on your radio :)

[reiggue]

Does this version have the same faults like 4.00.10, i.e. no ability to upgrade/downgrade the ROM anymore via acticesync/cradle?

[valheru]

Looks like it not an .exe installation so you should be fine. You shouldn't be doing an .exe upgrade anyway.

Aurora13, does this version still mask the "G" notification icon?

[valheru]

Anyone else want to host these? The listed FTP is full. I could but don't have them yet.

[Aurora13]

Yep busy FTP :)
5 users max with 45 KBps max.

And it still hasn't got the "G".

[valheru]

Aurora13, are you on the AT&T Network? If not and you use Tmobile, how do they notify you that GPRS is available?

For version .11, I guess this is cooked which is how you removed the utlities?

[Goijers]

@aurora13:
Do you know if Phonext (option set ring tone) is properly working with version.

Jeffrey

[Aurora13]

@valheru
I'm on the Dutch O2/Telfort network, and normally I got the "G". But not anymore since the .10 rom.

Haven't tested the .11 version and I got both versions I from netkim, so don't know anything about it.

@Goijers
I don't know, because I don't use that function of Phonext.

[van]

@Aurora13

Please, How about GPRS with ROM 4.00.16 ?
Somethings new :?:
Can not download new ROM :cry: -too many users :P
Waitting for Jeff Summers and Developers :D

Thanks :wink:

[xnappo]

Is there a new radio version with this update?

Regards,
xnappo

[Peter Poelman]

I got both files and burned 'em. From where I'm sitting, it looks like the 4.00.16 says T-Mobile on the boot screen, but it doesn't seem to have any other T-Mobile features: even the STK.EXE (SIM ToolKit) application appears to be missing (it says so at startup, and the link in Programs is broken.

Was this ROM 'treated' before upload, or is this indeed a broken ROM ?

[Aurora13]

I don't know, I'm just the guy who host it :)

I installed the .16, but haven't noticed any difference. Toolkit?!? There's no toolkit in it and it didn't give any error about it nor does it have a link in the startup folder.

So that is strange...

[Peter Poelman]

Something else that is a little weird:

We seem to be getting loads of new versions, but they're all based on the same build of the underlying OS: if you go to settings/system/about you'll see it's always 4.20.1081 build 13100. So whatever the OEMs are doing: MS is certainly not moving fast (or not giving them the latest stuff): you'd expect lots of new builds so soon after a major release.

[Peter Poelman]

I don't know, I'm just the guy who host it :)

I installed the .16, but haven't noticed any difference. Toolkit?!? There's no toolkit in it and it didn't give any error about it nor does it have a link in the startup folder.

So that is strange...
Did it give you anything T-Mobile specific, other than the boot screen?

[Aurora13]

You mean like:
- The Battery Monitor
- T-Mobile Today plugin
- Phonebook application

That was the only difference. It is exactly the same as .10 except now it gives .16 :)

[Peter Poelman]

That was the only difference. It is exactly the same as .10 except now it gives .16 :)
Ah... Now it works! Seems like it needed another cold-boot to initialize the filesystem correctly. Strange...

[GregP74]

Something else that is a little weird:

We seem to be getting loads of new versions, but they're all based on the same build of the underlying OS: if you go to settings/system/about you'll see it's always 4.20.1081 build 13100. So whatever the OEMs are doing: MS is certainly not moving fast (or not giving them the latest stuff): you'd expect lots of new builds so soon after a major release.

I suspect that nothing more will change in the OS the MS has sent to the OEMs. They've gotten through with their part - the betas we are seeing now are just the OEMs working on their respective add ons & updates & what not.

[sandyind]

Something else that is a little weird:

We seem to be getting loads of new versions, but they're all based on the same build of the underlying OS: if you go to settings/system/about you'll see it's always 4.20.1081 build 13100. So whatever the OEMs are doing: MS is certainly not moving fast (or not giving them the latest stuff): you'd expect lots of new builds so soon after a major release.

Thnx for bringing up the issue, XDA Developers Peter Poelman. I've been wondering about this one for a while now, too. With so many ROM versions floating around now, I wonder if the only difference is in the add-on software from the OEMs...

[GregP74]

Anyone else got this new one up somewhere for an ftp or http download?

[mattr]

Could someone please oh please send me this rom? The ftp is to busy... :(

Matt

[sandyind]

You mean like:
- The Battery Monitor
- T-Mobile Today plugin
- Phonebook application

That was the only difference. It is exactly the same as .10 except now it gives .16 :)

Aurora - what about WModem? Dyou see that on this version?

[Aurora13]

Nope no wmodem :(


BTW
I changed the max. users from 5 to 10. So if you only get 4,5 Kbyte/s don't blame me, blame it on yourself! :) :D :P ;)

[Goijers]

I am busy. Thx Aurora13

[Goofy07]

Previous I have flashed my xda with jeff's kitchen and I used the SD card method. Just wondering how I have to flash with the *.bin files. It is the same method as with *.nb1?

TIA

[lgingell]

Aurora13,

Thanks for putting these files up. I'm having a problem getting the VS file though (the other 2 are fine):

Error opening local file SN40016wwe_VS.zip.
> SN40016wwe_VS.zip:Permission denied

Can you check the permissions?

Cheers,
..lance

[mattr]

Thanks Aurora!!

You're the tops! :lol:

[Aurora13]

@Goofy07
Read my first post carefully and you will find your answer.

@Igingell
A little hick up I guess, stopped and started my FTP server and everything is running fine now.

@mattr
:oops:

[netkim]

Probably MS won't move any further build for Windows Mobile 2003 than the existing build 13100 (it is the RTM version for WM2003). If you see any latest build than 13100, it should be consider the WM2003 SP1 (well well, I don't think they will release it this year, cuz it add some cool feature).
The 4.00.xx is the OEM made version (nothing related to MS anymore), I don't know much what is new in the .16 than the previous .10, but I heard that they have some enhancement in the radio compatiblility. Yes, I don't see the "G" fixed yet in this version. What I know is that 6.24 is still the latest radio.

[GregP74]

Ok, I downloaded the new ROM but I haven't yet installed anything.

What's the scoop on this one? No new radio stack? What's the best way to do the install?

[mdavidm]

I have had the new 4.00.16 installed for the last twelve hours or so, and it does seem a little more stable. I was having intermittent backlight issues and occassional lockups, but none of that has occurred since the upgrade. The only noticable change is that processing speed seems to have improved rather noticably. I'm sure that is due at least in small part to reloading software from scratch, but this version does seem to be more efficient.

To install, I used the new XDAtools program to copy the .bin file to the SD card in my xda, and then used the bootloader without incident. The radio remains unchanged.

David

[Goijers]

@Aurora13:
I did. So I assume I write the bin file to a sd card and use the bootloader?

[Aurora13]

If you use the OSIMAGETOOL, there are multiple ways to do it. But I think the best way is the bootloader way.

[izeman]

hi all!

update is running well here on my mda. gprs works as well.

i'm happy with that. nethertheless i would love to have a GERMAN version of that available .... it's hard to work with that english keyboard and the english spellchecker became useless.

but another question: i couldn't manage to get rid of those t-mobile "tools". the battery meter is ok...

but this stupid "T" sign and the phonebook tool really p***es me off. i don't know the names of these programs so i could search the registry for them.

any way to get rid of them (i tried to remove them as described in the very first posting of this thread but no sucess)

thanks!

regards ize|man

[Aurora13]

I think they are related with the Battery Monitor tool. Try removing the Battery Monitor link from the Startup folder to another folder. Then reboot, if the icons dissapear you know what it is.

[izeman]

@Aurora13

hehe. yep you're right. :)

never tried to remove that link in startup because that's the only program i find usefull in any way. ;)

by removing the "battery" link in "start-up" all the other stuff was gone as well. thanks for your fast reply and help.

regards ize|man

[mouseman]

Hi,
my name is MouseMan, my site http://xda.msweb.cz/ is free for download ALL ROM.

Download ....

PS: is time 4.00.11 .... next time is COMPLET ROM here ...

[rpc]

any other site where i can dowload this file, because my internet is very slow and i can use only DAP to download it.. thanks

[Jurec]

I have a question.
An error appeared when I tried to flash this ROM. Now the device does not start saying: "GSM ERROR". Is there a way to fix it somehow?

[GregP74]

Woohooo I am all upgraded to the 4.00.16! I don't seem to see any changes, but it might be a little bit snappier.

I haven't had time yet to see if GPRS is any quicker or anything, but I am doubting it, since the radio stack is unchanged.

[valheru]

any other site where i can dowload this file, because my internet is very slow and i can use only DAP to download it.. thanks

You can get all kinds of ROM Flavors in the kitchen now. Check it out:
http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/ROMkitchen

[Aurora13]

Oke I closed my FTP because it is on Jeff's kitchen now, which is much quicker then my FTP. And not to forget, much cooler since you can make your own ROM. :)

[Yanick]

I have to admit Jeff's kitechen is really cool and easy .. too easy ..

Thanks !

ps. Nice to have would be the ability to include our own software in the image via an upload or something... But hey it 150% better than anything else already so !!!

[van]

MyXDA now :D :D

ROM version 4.00.16
Rom date 07/10/03
Radio version 4.21.00
Aurora, Jeff Summers and Developers- AMAZING

A little bit better than 4.00.10 :P - sure

Thanks :wink:

[mouseman]

hi all,
new rom image 4.00.11 (without t-mobile utilities) for SD card upload (.nb1): http://xda.msweb.cz !

[Carlos]

You can get all kinds of ROM Flavors in the kitchen now.
Except still no WMODEM, which is the most useful upgrade in the SE ROM. Without that, PPC 2003 seems a step backward for me.

Has anyone figured out if this can be put into 2003?

[rpc]

any other site where i can dowload this file, because my internet is very slow and i can use only DAP to download it.. thanks

You can get all kinds of ROM Flavors in the kitchen now. Check it out:
http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/ROMkitchen

Ow! :lol: they updated Jeff's Kitchen, thanks man..bonafetit!

[erickbryce]

You can get all kinds of ROM Flavors in the kitchen now.
Except still no WMODEM, which is the most useful upgrade in the SE ROM. Without that, PPC 2003 seems a step backward for me.

Has anyone figured out if this can be put into 2003?

I've noticed a lot of recuring questions in posts all over the board on this subject. Here's what a little sluthing has lead me to belive. I'm almost sure that WMODEM was created by O2. This is why you do not see it in ROM images right now because most of these Images are (source) US based (with the exception of the first few) You might see the next instance of this app apear first in O2 final release ROM if they decide to include it. Not likely it will appear any where else, or at this rate at all... :(

[wayne]

You can get all kinds of ROM Flavors in the kitchen now.
Except still no WMODEM, which is the most useful upgrade in the SE ROM. Without that, PPC 2003 seems a step backward for me.

Has anyone figured out if this can be put into 2003?

I've noticed a lot of recuring questions in posts all over the board on this subject. Here's what a little sluthing has lead me to belive. I'm almost sure that WMODEM was created by O2. This is why you do not see it in ROM images right now because most of these Images are (source) US based (with the exception of the first few) You might see the next instance of this app apear first in O2 final release ROM if they decide to include it. Not likely it will appear any where else, or at this rate at all... :(

So, is it possible to copy over wmodem and it will work, or does the current version not run on the latest 2003 builds? If it does work, where can one get a copy of wmodem?

[erickbryce]

Check the threads I belive I read some mention of this but think there was only limmited success. I think they said all was fine until they tried the IR port. So maybe via cable would work? I'm totally guessing. Ask around and have a go at it, let us all know if you work some magic 8) I have a feeling that since the CE kernal is diff now that the way it thinks in regards to AT comands will require a rebuild of WINMODM, just a guess. :?

[wbalzer]

I was wondering if the 4.00.16 Rom in Jeffs Kitchen can be downloaded unmodified in any way. Secondly, I know you guys don't like the idea of the Action Engine and have removed it from the PocketPC. Is it possible to optionally remove it?

I would like to make my own Rom, but I want everything to be there. I just want to add my own programs instead of removing anything there if possible.

Thirdly, how does MKRom know where to put everything when you have a newer version of the Rom? The way I see it, you guys are placing programs in the "empty" regions of the Rom.

Wade

[Peter Poelman]

I was wondering if the 4.00.16 Rom in Jeffs Kitchen can be downloaded unmodified in any way.

Simply uncheck 'Add prorgrams' and you're all set.

Secondly, I know you guys don't like the idea of the Action Engine and have removed it from the PocketPC. Is it possible to optionally remove it?
Just click the 'Original O2 AutoConfig data' radiobutton. It says right there...

Thirdly, how does MKRom know where to put everything when you have a newer version of the Rom? The way I see it, you guys are placing programs in the "empty" regions of the Rom.
We have to manually tell mkrom where the empty bits are with each new ROM version we put in the kitchen...

[wbalzer]

Just click the 'Original O2 AutoConfig data' radiobutton. It says right there...

There is no option for that in the 4.00.16 Configuration. hmmm. Don't know what to do.

Wade

[Peter Poelman]

There is no option for that in the 4.00.16 Configuration. hmmm. Don't know what to do.

Ah, I see, you want to run it on 4.x. The 4.x ROMs (WM2003) never came with the Active Engine framework, and the space left in the 4.x ROMs would probably not support it anymore (it may just barely fit, one would have to try).

[FDPM]

any other site where i can dowload this file, because my internet is very slow and i can use only DAP to download it.. thanks

You can get all kinds of ROM Flavors in the kitchen now. Check it out:
http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/ROMkitchen

Hi Valheru,
I just tryed the link you sent, but I'm getting some errore while cooking the rom:

Creating ROM... Please be patient.
Copying ROM files
Running mkrom

Warning: fopen(../../download/igdfkjbo/log.html): failed to open stream: Not a directory in /home/jsummers/public_html/ROMkitchen/processor.php on line 104

Warning: fputs(): supplied argument is not a valid stream resource in /home/jsummers/public_html/ROMkitchen/processor.php on line 105

Warning: fclose(): supplied argument is not a valid stream resource in /home/jsummers/public_html/ROMkitchen/processor.php on line 106

Warning: rename(rom.exe,../../download/igdfkjbo/rom.exe): Not a directory in /home/jsummers/public_html/ROMkitchen/processor.php on line 110
Your ROM is done. (click here to view the log)


...and then I recieve an access denied when downloading the image...

Could you please check?

Thx

[valheru]

I checked it and worked fine for me. You must have been trying to cook when Jeff was updating something. Try it again.