Clear instructions, please!

[mml770]

Hi,

I have a TMobile pocket pc, Rom version: 3.08.10 and Radio Version: 6.02, I want to upgrade it to WM2003, the problem is that I don't have a tmobile phone number, I saved my ROM on a sd card with the Wallaby Bootloader, I downloaded the "XDA OS Image Tool", could I put the "T-mobile ROM Windows Mobile 2003 upgrade 4.00.21" from Yorch and if it doesn't work just reload the old version with Wallaby?

Could I cook a Rom in the Kitchen and install it or I need PHP support?

Thanks

[Qman]

Yes to all, also you'll need to upgrade your radio stack to get the always on GPRS.

BTW where are you located?



HTH

[mml770]

How do I upgrade my radio? I'm in NY but I need the phone also in Europe.

when you said yes you mean also for the kitchen I need PHP support, does that mean a server like Apache installed on my computer?

[mml770]

btw in Wallaby I saved with the first option to the Sd, I think it was CE ROM TO SD, is that ok or I need to do something else?

[Qman]

How do I upgrade my radio? I'm in NY but I need the phone also in Europe.

when you said yes you mean also for the kitchen I need PHP support, does that mean a server like Apache installed on my computer?

Yes on the kitchen!
The best way to upgrade the radio stack is to copy the needed files to
your devices Windows folder and install it from there. If you send me a PM with your email address I'll send you the needed files.

You lost me on the needing PHP support, why do you need that?


HTH

[mml770]

what are all these instructions at http://xda-developers.com/ROMkitchen/, is it for someone that wants to run the kitchen on his computer?

should I use the kitchen version .16 or it's more secure the .21 from yorch with XDA OS Image Tool?

[Qman]

what are all these instructions at http://xda-developers.com/ROMkitchen/, is it for someone that wants to run the kitchen on his computer?

should I use the kitchen version .16 or it's more secure the .21 from yorch with XDA OS Image Tool?

Yes those instructions are for setting up your own kitchen.
I'd go with .21 cause thats what I'm using.

BTW you can also get ROM version 4.0021 from http://www.yorch.net
under Software.



HTH

[mml770]

I have the 4.00.21 version from Yorch my last question is what I need to select in Wallaby?

1. CE ROM TO SD
2. BOOT TO SD
3. CE+BOOT TO SD
4. GSM ROM TO SD (I guess not)
5. CE + GSM TO SD (also probably not)

Thanks...

[valheru]

Pick door number three and make sure that you have loaded onto the sd card only the nbf file from Yorch's site.

[mml770]

Pick door number three and make sure that you have loaded onto the sd card only the nbf file from Yorch's site.

you got my a little confused... I thought of backing up to the sd the actual rom and then writing the nbf file to the device, but now you said to load the nbf file to the sd... could please explain...Thanks

[valheru]

Okay, get the os toolset, an sd card reader/writer, an sd card of at least 64mb and do the following:
-install the os toolset
-put device in cradle
-run ostoolset and backup your ROM to your hard drive. Name it something like ppc2002-10-13-03 or something similar. This will backup your ROM only, not any installed programs
-remove your device
-insert the sd card into the reader/writer
-open os toolset again and select the new rom you downloaded from the internet
-select the sd card as the installation drive
-once its done copying put the sd card into your device
-run the wallaby bootloader and have it install the os to your device.
-hard reset when done as directed and BINGO
*** I will point out that it seems you have not read very many of the posts here. DO THIS BEFORE YOU DO ANY OF THE ABOVE ***

[mml770]

I'm actually going through this forum for a week till I decided to ask, since nobody wrote clearly how to do it, Thanks!

Now since I don't have a sd card reader, before I get it, is it possible to upgrade directly without having to do it with the sd card?

Another question, with which extension do I save the backup of my ROM, nb1, img, bin.

Thanks again

[mml770]

what's the difference if I copy the .nbf file to the SD reader or if I just copy it to the sd through the device?

[valheru]

Once again, please read the posts. You can't copy the file to the sd card while in the device for it will only copy the file as a file instead of copying it as a bootable interface. If you don't understand this then you should definitely read more posts. No offense.

You can, if you wish, just us the OS toolset to overwrite your device ROM with any ROM you choose. Just go to the ROM TOOLSET forum to download and follow the instructions there. It is very easy but be careful. I just believe in the aforementioned method for it forces you to take steps to prevent a total loss. I wish you the best of luck.

Oh, if you really want to update your ROM, etc., invest in a card reader. It'll cost you less than $30 which is less than 6% of what you paid for your device most likely.

No matter what you do make a backup of your current ROM!

[mml770]

valheru, thank you very much for taking your time, belive me that I really read allot of posts, if you could direct me in a thread that speaks about this I'll be very happy instead of using your time!

Now I just copied the nbf file to the sd card with OSImage Tool, and when I went in Wallaby it gave me the option to upgrade the ROM, is that ok? or I still need a sd reader,

Thanks again for all your help!

[valheru]

That sounds alright but make sure you make a backup of your current ROM first!

[mml770]

Great!!! It works, now one last question the Radio Version is 6.02, Qman what version did you send me and how do I upgrade?

[mml770]

ok here are the istructions to upgrade to ROM 4.00.21 for a TMobile Pocket Pc Phone Edition.

You just need a sd card of at least 64MB (maybe 32Mb will also work).

Download the OSImage Tool from http://www.xda-developers.com/XDAtools/ and install it.

Download the Upgrade to 4.00.21 from Yorch.net http://www.yorch.net/downloads/ROMS/T-mobileROM40021.rar.

-put device in cradle
-run osImage Tool and backup your ROM to your hard drive. Name it something like ppc2002-10-13-03 or something similar. This will backup your ROM only, not any installed programs
-open osImage Tool again and select the new rom you downloaded from the internet
-select the sd card as the installation drive
-run the wallaby bootloader and have it install the os to your device.
-hard reset when done as directed and BINGO

(as you could notice some lines where copied from a previous post of valheru, sorry for not giving credit in the begining... :wink: )

[valheru]

@ mml770
When cutting and pasting someone else's post it is polite to quote them or at least give credit to them....hint hint 8)

[Qman]

Great!!! It works, now one last question the Radio Version is 6.02, Qman what version did you send me and how do I upgrade?

Boy you guys sure have been having fun, I see! 8)

Its radio stack 6.24.
To upgrade just unzip then copy the four files to your devices Windows folder then run RSUpgrade.exe from there.

[kiana]

Hi .. need some help with my radio stack. Got a problem when upgraded my ROM to 3.20.03 ENG and Radio to 4.21 from xda site. i found out later on that the radio upgrade to 4.21 is not recommended for users using Indonesia Satelindo 64kB postpaid SIM due to a known issue (which is my exact situation :( )

Since then i wnet to Jeff's kitchen and upgraded the ROM to 4.11.11, but obviously it didn't resolve my radio stack issue.

desperately looking forward for help..

many thanks in advance.

[kiana]

Sorry, the ROM upgrade from Jeff's kitchen was 4.00.11 ENG

[kiana]

More questions:
* Other than the always on GPRS that I've read about 6.24, what are the significant difference between Radio Stack 6.18 and 6.24?
* Would it be advisable to go to 6.18 first and see how it goes before to 6.24?
* If the answer to the above is yes, can someone send both packages?

Of course, many thanks!

[mml770]

Thanks Qman!

kiana, if you want I could send you the files that Qman sent me.

valheru, I gave you credit in the post, also if anyone reading the thread understands that it's just because of you that I got the istructions!

[kiana]

thanks for the offer... i sent a pm to you with my email addies...

[kiana]

thanks for the forward mml770. I've completed the upgrade and the xda boots up with RS 6.24

dunno what i did wrong tho, because it's gotten worse... no signal at all. i tried replacing the SIM card with another operator but the same situation (getting pretty nervouse here)

any suggestions?

[kiana]

thanks for the forward mml770, had it installed already.
when the xda booted up, no signs of problems, but after entering PIN, radio simply didn't give any indication of activity whatsoever (status in the antenna icon: No Sevice)

I tried sawpping another operator's SIM card but the results were the same (getting very nervous).

Any suggestions?

[kiana]

I reverted O2 supplied RS 4.21 and it's seems normal again with using Telkomsel operator SIM, but when I go back to Satelindo SIM card, the problem is as described in http://www.myxda.com/web/template/SoftwareUpgradeIntroduction.vm (Attention:
This software upgrade is not recommended for users using Indonesia Satelindo 64kB postpaid sim due to a known issue. )

Suggestions?

[valheru]

I was just kidding around. My sense of humor is as dry as a piece of toast! Anyone heard from Jeff regarding the update to his kitchen with .21?

[Qman]

kiana maybe there is still some hope, what GSM Band are you running?

I ask this because Radio stacks 6.24 and A.20.10 will only work on GSM 900 - Europe and GSM 1900 - North America.


HTH

[ritmo-unido]

Great!!! It works, now one last question the Radio Version is 6.02, Qman what version did you send me and how do I upgrade?

Boy you guys sure have been having fun, I see! 8)

Its radio stack 6.24.
To upgrade just unzip then copy the four files to your devices Windows folder then run RSUpgrade.exe from there.

Can anybody send me the Radio Stack 6.24 please?

:wink:

[Qman]

Send it where? :D

[kiana]

Qman, thanks a heap for your efforts.. but AT&T stack didn't work either.. my office is on the 26th floor and i was thinking to send my xda the fast way down, unless you have any ideas..

[Qman]

Qman, thanks a heap for your efforts.. but AT&T stack didn't work either.. my office is on the 26th floor and i was thinking to send my xda the fast way down, unless you have any ideas..

What GSM band did you have it set to?
To check Press the green phone button, Tools, Options, Band.
If Band is not available as an option do a soft reset while holding the power button this will put you in bootloader mode then press the calendar button.



HTH

[ritmo-unido]

Send it where? :D

Sorry Qman,

Please send it to:

mail@ritmo-unido.com

Thanks for your help! :lol:

[kiana]

Sorry for the late response...

After following the instructions (bootloader reset +calendar key), this is what it says:

UTILITIES
===GSM ON===
DEBUG / CALL I.
GSM TURN ON
GSM TURN OFF
GSM RESET
GSM 900
GSM 900 /100
GSM RECALL
GSM NORMAL


hmmm.. what next Qman?
hmmm.. what next

[kiana]

tried paying around with the settings (band).... now I'm really in trouble, the GSM function simply doesn't respond when i turn on the set (normal on). what's the deal Qman?
(Nervous again)

[kiana]

played around with it more... and i think i nailed it. i set it to 900/1800 and works fine now... but i'll leave it for a while and see just how reliable it is...

[kiana]

apparently no good...