XDA II in UK

[Nestinar]

I am going to London for a few days and want to buy XDA II. I have spoken with a shop in London and they said that they have it in stock and start selling on 1 November. I need a piece of advice from those who live in UK. I was told that the phone will be sold with a contract only.
1. In order to buy a contracted phone, do I need only ID and credit card or I need a permanent address in the UK as well?
2. What is O2 policy on early contract termination? I could not find anything on their site.
3. If I pay cash and leave the country does it mean that I am not paying early contract termination fee since they do not have my credit card number and I am not the UK resident?
4. Any ideas how to buy XDA II in the UK at minimum price in my situation?

Many thanks.

[Nossie]

I bought the XDA online.... (original)

When I went to register it with O2 they checked through the deal I did with the link....

If I had not confirmed the registration when I purchased the device I would have been billed the full amount after a certain time.

If you buy a phone they will run a credit check including where you worked last....

If you terminate early I know many people that have been billed the full price.

sorry but it appears you have no option here. catch 22 situation...

hope that helps.
Ian.

[Nestinar]

Sorry my English is not that good. What 22 situation means?
What if I ask a friend of mine who lives in UK to register on his name, can I pay with my own credit card or it must be his credit card? In this way I would pay the charges for early contract termination from my card. Depends how much it is à course. Anybody knows how much O2 charges for early contract termination?

[Nossie]

catch 22 - from the film by the same name... I think

basically you do it one way... you get screwed, you do it the other... you get screwed.

If you get your friend to register it you might be able to get the registration transferred over but your friend would be putting a hell of a lot of faith in you.

The cost for early contract termination is the cost of the phone without contract plus any extra charges O2 wish to lay on you. The XDAII is what £700 without contract? (speculative price)

either way, I wouldnt like to be you or your friend when you terminate the contract early.

sorry,
Ian.

[Nestinar]

I've got an idea. I ask my friend to put XDA on his card and purchase the insurance for the phone as well, while I pay cash back to him. Then I leave the UK and he reports XDA stolen or lost and gets a brand new XDA for himself for free.
Is it very illegal in UK to do in this way?
I would prefer a more legal way to get around.

[Nossie]

errr it would be very illegal...

like insurance fraud illegal...

if it wasn't everyone would be doing it...

please dont suggest that here again... :shock:

[Nestinar]

I had a feeling that it's illegal :oops:
But is there a legal way??? I would appreciate if somebody will give an idea how to do it legally. Somehow a lot of phones are getting out of the coutries of origin, get unlocked and sold. So there should be a way I believe.

[Rudegar]

lol how could it not be illegal i mean they have to give him 2 phones at the price of one

if it were not who would stop people from doing the same thing with cars
and figtherplanes for that matter :P

[Nossie]

Somehow a lot of phones are getting out of the coutries of origin, get unlocked and sold. So there should be a way I believe.

Yeah thats because the supplier can source the items from other dealers (like when buying MS software)

but that usually doesnt happen until the item in question has been out for a few months... with the XDAII being so new their will likely be limited availibility... so I'd imagine getting one with a contract below the RRP O2 is selling it for will be hard enough never mind buying once cheap without a contract.

the phone when released is subsidised by the operator in the hopes they can make up development costs with the contract. They may begin to release phones to other parties after this time but they wont so close after the release date.

Ian.

P.S hence why that XDAII on ebay is so dodgy... where the hell did he get it from? (if he actually has it in the first place)
http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3270&highlight=ebay

[Nestinar]

There are phones available really soon after the initial release in the country of origin and sold usually in small shops (not chain mobile shops). That means that somehow the phones are purchased somewhere at low cost with a contract (operator's logo on the phone) and then shipped outside the country, get unlocked and sold. Which is probably not 100% legal scheme but if they can do in bulk means that there is more or less legal way to do it.

[cruisin-thru]

O2 are like pitbulls when the go after their money. I dont think they will allow early termination, so add up 13 months at the chosen tariff, put that in an account then each month it will be drawn at the monthly tariff by O2, when 12 months expire give 1 month notice and thats it. If it still seems cheap this way then good luck. Regarding the insurance claim, the phone companies now demand a written statement from the police and the owner, they have got very upset at all the claims and investigate each claim. I dont think a phone, no matter how desirable is worth a criminal record.

[Nestinar]

What is the situation with existing O2 customers? How much existing customers pay for a new XDA II?
Let's say my friend is an existing O2 customer and he buys XDA II. Can he sell it then to me and use the old handset instead?

[hiddenvision]

Cor I wonder about some of the Posts I read here.

Can anyone help me out with the Keys and combination for the Store room at O2 head quaters.

All plans and electrical documentation along with type of cctv and alarm systems would also be helpful..

If you work there then perhaps you could leave all of the stock on the Road outside the rear door. Please post a note here to let me know this information :-)

I assume that it would not be so bad if I just rob them directly rather than do it behind their back.

Is that Legal.?. after all I am not making some bad insurance claim.

.... Well I am laughing.... :-)