XDAtools for XDA II?

[vbexpert]

Can we use XDATools to backup and restore XDA II ROM? Or XDA II provide a way to do the ROM backup and restore?

[david beckham]

Can we use XDATools to backup and restore XDA II ROM? Or XDA II provide a way to do the ROM backup and restore?

is there a way to enter Bootloader method for XDA II?

[palmop]

You can enter bootloader on xda ii via power+any direction button+reset. Word of warning, it will hard reset as well.

[vbexpert]

You can enter bootloader on xda ii via power+any direction button+reset. Word of warning, it will hard reset as well.

Does it have the option to backup and restore ROM? Thanks!

[palmop]

it has d2s command to dump rom to sd, but don't know the reverse...

[fluppie007]

s2d like on an ipaq ?

[akira]

is that a raw command on terminal software?

maybe its the same on ipaq?

lets find out

didnt get the terminal software to work though

dunno witch

[akira]

found this

Here's how:
1. First insert the formatted SD card to the healthy iPAQ. Connect the cradle/cable to your computer's serial port. Install the A/C adaptor to your cradle.
2. Prepare the healthy 39xx to enter DEBUG mode:
- press and hold button: power, contacts, and inbox, and do pin reset.
- if your iPAQ shown all-red COMPAQ display, with 'SERIAL' text above, then you're in the debug mode.
- sit the debugged iPAQ to the cradle.
2. Open hyper-terminal, make a new connection, using these setting:
- the COM port where the iPAQ is connected.
- 115,200 bps
- 8 databits
- no parity
- 1 stop bit
- NONE handshaking.
- Connect!
3. Once connected, hit once to show the prompt SER>
4. On prompt SER> type "?" for displaying all the commands avail.
5. On this process of ressurection, we'll gonna use only two command: "d2s" (device to storage) and "s2d" (storage to device).
6. type "d2s" and hit .
7. The ROM copying process will begun, and you'll see a 'progress bar'. This may take apprx. 10 minutes.
8. When it's finished, you'll see the confirmation on both of your hyper-terminal screen and your iPAQ.
9. Disconnect the hyper terminal session.

Now the resurrection steps:
1. Prepare your dead 39xx to debug mode.
2. insert the SD card (which is now already filled with the 39xx ROM)
3. start a session on your hyperterminal again (using the same setting as above).
4. once connected, hit once to shown the SER> prompt.
5. type "s2d"
6. Your iPAQ will display a warning that current ROM will be erased, press 'power' button to confirm.
7. Starting the process of erasing the ROM of your dead iPAQ. This will take apprx. 7-9minutes.
8. Once the erasing process is done, it will automatically re-write the ROM of your dead iPAQ with the NEW ROM from the healthy iPAQ. This process took much longer, apprx 15 minutes.
9. When the copying process' done, both of your iPAQ and hyperterminal will shown an OK confirmation.
10. Disconnect the hyperterminal session.
11. Unplug your iPAQ from its cradle, do a soft reset.
12. Your dead iPAQ's risen!


gonne TRY !!!!

[akira]

ITS WORKING

downloading rom now from my phone for backup

ftp://ftp.hilgraeve.com/htpe/htpe63.exe

for direct terminal software download

** rom is now on my card.
but how to replace the rom with an english one.
you cant read the card anymore

[palmop]

There has to be a way to dump that SD to a file. For me I can go to my friend's house and dump his English ROM and put it on my MDA II, but for many others, they'll need a file. Let's focus on how to do this.

[cheekymuffin]

I got MDA II from germany couple of days ago, and have been stuck with the German language. I've been searching and seaching for English ROM for couple of days and still no luck.

Can someone PLEASE please please make an image of the English ROM of their XDA 2 and post it here. :cry:


Thanks in advance

[palmop]

I will post it, as soon as I can get my hands on it :)

[akira]

we just need to find another xda2 with english rom :)
and then dump that one
and use the rom for you own

[Technolo-G]

I need the German XDA II ROM (because I have a MDA II, but I have an O2 card).

Can anyone dump a German XDA II ROM please!?!

[cheekymuffin]

how do i make a backup/image of the ROM? please give me step by step instructions. Thanks.

[bio]

Hi all,

to backup your ROM:

1) put your device in bootloader mode
2) connect via cradle
3) use any terminal (minicom) to connect to the used port (/dev/ttyUSB0)
- you should see something like 'USB>' or 'SER>'
4) put an SD Card into device
5) type d2s on command prompt

to restore your ROM:

1) put your SD-Card into device
2) put your device in bootloader mode
3) the device will ask you to press power to flash the rom

[akira]

and how do we change the rom on that SD?
We cant read the files

its formated in a non standard way

[bio]

are there any possibilities to backup and restore the radio stack using the bootloader method?

thanks a lot,

bio

[PAf4]

akira Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 18:48 Post subject:

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and how do we change the rom on that SD?
We cant read the files

its formated in a non standard way


Did you tried with WinHex software?

[palmop]

It is not formatted in FAT/FAT32/NTFS, etc. Thus WinHex can't read it...

[palmop]

Here is what I found:

http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/

xdatools-jeff.exe

The OSImage tool is able to dump the rom directly from XDA (when connected via ActiveSync) to a file (like file.nb1). It is also capable of dumping SD to file or file to SD. So if we can get someone to post a copy of their English ROM, we can dump to SD and put it on our MDA II.

After dumping to SD though, I went into Bootloader mode, and unlike XDA, it didn't give me any option to dump the rom from SD, still I think it is possible to dump this back via Serial connection.

[cheekymuffin]

Is that the XDA II English ROM?


Can someone PLEASE post the English ROM if this isn't it.
Thanks.

[akira]

Here is what I found:

http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/

xdatools-jeff.exe

The OSImage tool is able to dump the rom directly from XDA (when connected via ActiveSync) to a file (like file.nb1). It is also capable of dumping SD to file or file to SD. So if we can get someone to post a copy of their English ROM, we can dump to SD and put it on our MDA II.

After dumping to SD though, I went into Bootloader mode, and unlike XDA, it didn't give me any option to dump the rom from SD, still I think it is possible to dump this back via Serial connection.

I tried this already,
de dump through active sync directly to sd works i think
still you cant edit the files
i cant dump from rom directlty to file though

[palmop]

I don't need to edit the files, but dumping the rom to a file, gives me the option to have my friend send it via email. Then I can use a serial connection and first dump the english rom to sd and then use s2d command to dump it to the device.

[akira]

true, serial download and upload works perfect
we can exchange sd cards ;-)

sign up for the sd pas trough :)

so eveyone can flash their device

[palmop]

Akira, which serial cable are you using? Mine came from gomadic.com and I can't get much of output on my neither XDA nor MDA II. If I boot up to pocketpc, both devices try to connect, thinking there is a serial connection. But if I go to Bootloader, there is no output coming.

[akira]

i use the home made version, with the help of the developers

[palmop]

Fixed the problem, it needed the terminal to be set exactly at 115200. Now I can dump the rom to sd, I can't figure out the reverse, s2d doesn't work. Any ideas?

Also I tried to copy SD to a file, using XDATools, but it fails, it thinks it is not a proper image file. Any help there?

[akira]

nope i am stuck here also

[palmop]

I tested following:

- Connect via Serial, use d2s.
- Once ROM is dumped, reset the machine
- Goto Bootloader mode, with SD card inserted (with the ROM)
- Click Camera button, it will ask to dump the SD to ROM.

It works like a charm.

[palmop]

Now everything is in order. We need a hand from any of you guys with I-mate.

Here is the steps to backup the ROM to a file:

1. Connect via Serial cable to XDA II
2. Put XDA II into Bootloader Mode (power button+any direction+reset)
3. Run Hyper Terminal 115200 baud, 8n1, direct to com port.
4. Issue d2s command to backup ROM to SD. You'll need an empty SD card with 64Mb or more size (i used 128)
5. Once the ROM is dumped, reset your XDA.
6. Put the SD card to your card reader.
7. Use ntrw (http://home.comcast.net/~kenzhao8/downloads.htm, it is in cfutils.zip):

ntrw read test.nb1 m:

This assumes your SD card has drive letter M:

8. Copy the nb1 rom file to a zip and post it to a site.

Then we can download the ROM, unzip, use ntrw to write back to SD and go into bootloader mode with SD card inserted, hit camera button and flash our MDA II to english rom.

So the rest is on any XDA II with english rom owner.

PalMop

[ArcticCat]

But my problem still is how to do the serial cable :( i only have the usb craddle any ideas?

[akira]

GREAT STUFF
ILL TRY THIS AFTERNOON!

edit : problem is i only have 256mb card
BIG IMAGE

if anyone really needs a german rom...

i want a englsih one !

[palmop]

www.gomadic.com sells the serial cable. If you are in GTA area, I can lend you mine to get the English ROM.

I have a 128 Mb image for the MDA II German, if anybody wants it. I'll get a smaller card later on.

Palmop

[palmop]

Update, I got a copy of the English ROM !!! It was dumped via pmemdump (http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/tools.html) using:

osimage: 'pmemdump 0x80040000 0x01fc0000 osimage.nb1'
bootloader: 'pmemdump 0x80000000 0x00040000 bootloader.nb0'

I am still trying to figure out how to dump this image to SD. My ntrw.exe method above works, if you created the SD via serial. The pmemdump method uses ActiveSync and USB cable, so it is easier to create the file. But we don't know how to put it onto SD yet.

So if anyone wants the English ROM created by pmemdump, pm me where to upload :)

[Kyri]

Hi guys, sounds very exciting what you are doing... reminds me of when I used to flash my Audrey.
Im new to the XDA II world and was wondering if by flashing a rom from an unlocked XDA II to a locked device would result in unlocking it?
Sorry if this a stupid question...
Thanks,
K

[palmop]

Nope, to my knowledge it is kept in separate place. But I am not a XDA II expert :)

[tenzin]

Please, if someone knows how to unlock XDA II , HELP !!! because a friend bought for me an XDA II in an O2 'London shop , they tell him , they phone the unlock code, and now they said, no unlock code !!! :twisted: , so right now, as I live in France, I have , if I can't unlock it , just a normal PPC and I'll have to BUY a phone !!!! :twisted: :twisted: Crazy !!!

[ArcticCat]

www.gomadic.com sells the serial cable. If you are in GTA area, I can lend you mine to get the English ROM.

Is there anyway i can build my own serial cable or even better do all this with the USB craddle?

[palmop]

You can dump the ROM from device to PC via USB, using pmemdump utility. But you'll need to add the 412 missing bytes before putting it onto SD. Read the other thread in this forum, http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3731&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[redflower]

Got my MDA II yesterday and have the same problem as a couple of ppl in this forum too, wanna get rid of the German ROM and replace it by an English one. Could please anyone here help me in this matter (doesn't have to be on the board, just pm me), I may return the favour by providing a German ROM. Thanks :)

[akira]

i has been explained a million times and in very detail in the topic
http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3731

[redflower]

Well it may have been explained a million times but that still leaves me without an English ROM (and that was what I was asking for in the first place). I could, of course pm any of the guys/gals who have already managed to flash their ROMS but I don't think they'd be delighted if I did :P Anyone here who could please help me out with an English ROM? Thanks :)

[akira]

the is in the topic i mentioned
if you dont want to read i am not even willing to help you

[orinoco]

Hi Redflower:

Look at my step-by-step procedure (including all downloads) at:

http://www.pocketpcpassion.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37716

This should do it. Contact me with any questions.

Fernando

[palmop]

Hey orinoco,

I think, actually dumping the rom to the sd via the device handles the proper formatting of the card. That's why your procedure works. I actually tried the following and it works:

1. Dump the german ROM to SD.
2. Use the same SD card in your card reader, use ntrw and my patched nb1 file to write to SD with english rom.
3. Flash

There is no need to edit the 412 bytes, as it has been done.

[Corjan]

You can download an english rom here:

ftp://www.shawus.com/

username: hydrosphere
password: 1234

Check the directory /XDA II English

[Billgate]

Hi all


@palmop &Akira

I has folowed all you step , but when i come to bootloader , it still display : Sections = 1 , Not allow update ???? event i try with many PC , notebook , I am using 256 SD card , Com cable , here i have 1 MDA T-mobile ,( germany lang ) and XDA II ( E lang ) , I been try many times , please help

Thank you

[Billgate]

Hi

And please to tell me your E rom in ftp://www.shawus.com is aready edited 420 byte ? or still leave it ?

Thank

[palmop]

The file is already patched up, so transferring German to SD via Serial, then using ntrw to write English to SD should work fine. If not, try a different SD card, as some had problems with different SD card manufacturers.

PalMop

[yourmate]

Hello,

Has the password changed recently for ftp://www.shawus.com?

Could sy help me out?

Thanks,

yourmate

[othman]

Hello

i just checked it using FlashXP FTP Client and it works.

regards.


Othman :D

[Qman]

Its 12/11/03 2:28 PM its not working. :cry:

[tenzin]

same for me , the username is OK , but the password is rejected ; sure it have been changed ...

[mrg2003]

STATUS:> Connect: Friday 13:35:02 12-12-2003
STATUS:> Connecting to www.shawus.com
STATUS:> Connecting to www.shawus.com (ip = 24.206.159.250)
STATUS:> Socket connected. Waiting for welcome message...
220 ProFTPD 1.2.9rc3 Server (Kingwoodcable.NET Web Server) [www.shawus.com]
STATUS:> Connected. Authenticating...
COMMAND:> USER hydrosphere
331 Password required for hydrosphere.
COMMAND:> PASS ********
230 User hydrosphere logged in.
STATUS:> Login successful
COMMAND:> TYPE I
200 Type set to I
COMMAND:> pwd
257 "/" is current directory.
COMMAND:> TYPE A
200 Type set to A
STATUS:> Retrieving directory listing...
COMMAND:>
200 PORT command successful
COMMAND:> LIST
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list
STATUS:> Received 5857 bytes Ok.
STATUS:> Time: 0:00:01, Efficiency: 5.72 KBytes/s (5857 bytes/s)
226 Transfer complete.
STATUS:> Done.

[Qman]

Ok I see where the problem is the posted site was fttp://www.shawus.com and the password was 1234.

Try logging in just with www.shawus.com and password 12345, that did
it for me! :D

BTW I used CuteFTP.




HTH

[mrg2003]

The correct password always helps. I just used brutus

[jonburge]

I upgraded to T-Mobile 1.6 (unofficial) on my i-mate. Now I can't update i-mate to official rom. Unfortunately, I did not back up the original rom prior to T-Mobile update. Does anyone have either original i-mate english rom or how to put the updated rom onto my unit with bootloader or other method. I have the updated files from i-mate, but I am afraid I can't use them.

[shares]

first i want to thank you all for this great discussion. I realy benifit a lot from this forum.

I need help.
Is there any way to backup and restore the ROM using the usb cradle (since I don't have a serial cable)?
I used XDATOOLS and I have managed to backup the ROM. However, I couldn't restore the ROM again to the ppc.

When I tried to enter the bootloader. I always ended up with the gray screen with (serial) written on it. Is there any way to enter the bootloader through the usb port and how?

I just want to backup or restore the ROM, I don't want to modify anything.