XDA III (3)

[mgolanlan]

now that I've had the XDA II for a week...

what/when will the XDA III come out?

I'm pretty sure it will have:

1. faster CPU
2. more memory
3. WiFi
4. better screen (probably VGA resolution)

I hope it also have:
1.. GPS
2. WiFi
3. longer / bigger / optional battery
4. better camera
5. better software e.g. camera, pic id, ie, backup, ...
6. usable as a wireless in-house phone via bluetooth

What else do you guys expect?

[Rb26DETTGT_R]

Ummm,,, I think you are getting a bit ahead of yourself. It isnt even out yey (XDAII) in most parts of the world. I mean, you might as well ask when is the XDAIV or XDAV coming out? Im sure all of your speculations will be addressed in some time to come.....

[Robson]

not to mention that iPaq is planning to release a whole new ppc rumored to be with even more capabilities than the xda2. heard about it while attending a techie conference in hong kong...they're planning to use the iPaq 5550 (the one with bluetooth, fingerprint bio-thingee, etc) as the base model. from there they're going to add a high res camera, phone edition, possibly gps, etc. so it may give xda a run for it's money as they try to overtake one another in terms of capabilities. that's the sad part about releasing your product ahead of the pack; it becomes the basis for releasing an improved product by reverse engineering. in any case, it'll be most interesting to see how the next generation ppcs will look like and how they will perform.
2 cents worth..
robson

[arebelspy]

I heard it's based on the 4xxx form factor (aka no more sleeves..ever).

And it will only have 64 MB of RAM.

Haha yeah right, the MDA II was rumored at one point to only have 64 MB of RAM, but it didn't come out with that. Gotta keep in mind, stuff is only rumors. Don't keep waiting around for that perfect device.

I'm happy with my XDA II for now, and if the H6000 comes out six months from now and is way better, well, then I got 6 months good use out of my XDA II, and I can decide then if I want to upgrade. :D

Those people saying "I'll hold off on the XDA II and wait for the H6000 cause I've heard it's so good, etc. etc." seem silly to me, because when the H6000 comes out, something else bigger (or smaller in the PDA world, lol) and better will be rumoredm and they'll be saying "I'll hold off on the H6000 and wait for the ______ because it's so good, etc. etc." ;)

-arebelspy

[Rudegar]

if you think about for how long from the xda were released to the xda2 got here i say it's pretty hard to say what it will offer

it's hard to predict more so about the furture :)

maybe it'll have
wireless glasses / eye pad screen
maybe it'll have ESP interface
maybe it'll connect directly to satelites
maybe it'll give you a brain turmor after a few hours use
;)

[alkandery75]

Maybe you can add "TV Tuner" and "CF Slot" in your list...

[stryker]

I reckon it will be 3g compatible.

[mgolanlan]

TV/FM tuner will be nice. Samsung already came out with something
like this in the far east, I think.

I'd guess the XDA III "information" will be here in 9-10 months,
and by then a CF card will be useless, especialyl if we get WiFi+GPS
builtin and standard 1Gb SD cards.

If you guys think that HTC engineers aren't already working on
the XDA III, you're very wrong.

I think 3G is unlikely to show up on a global form anytime soon.
Adding WiFi and/or GPS receiver to already GSM/Bluetooth signals
is going to be hard enough, electorically (shielding), so 3G might
be 2-3 years away.

Hopefully, with WM2004, we'll have more than 32 processes and
better overall device management. Right now, I'm forced to
soft-reset every 2-3 days, and I don't like that.

[arebelspy]

Man, I soft reset every few hours. What's the big deal? It boots up as fast as it would load a webpage, so the wait isn't that bad.

Why do people complain about soft resetting? I just like that I get to choose when to soft reset (i.e. after saving all work, closing all apps, etc.), rather than it locking up and forcing a soft reset. The XDA II is a stable device, to be sure.

-arebelspy

[JUICEe]

maybe it'll have
wireless glasses / eye pad screen
maybe it'll have ESP interface
maybe it'll connect directly to satelites
maybe it'll give you a brain turmor after a few hours use
;)

seriously -> LOL


btw...i think i already have a brain tumor, right above my right ear :shock:

[mgolanlan]

he he. Maybe I should soft-reset every now and then.

My problem is, I've had ie+multie+battery2004 create some lockup
that soft-reset didn't really cleanup.

I suspect I pressed the mult-ie func-menu while a page was loading
and something more was going on... anyway:

I had to Hard-reset.

I restored my xBackup from my SD (night before, device was soft
reset and no active apps while running)

and guess what, after the restore the device won't reboot.
tried it twice. had to go back to activesync backup... yak.

I've had multiple times where I had to soft-reset while an app was
active, but the menu has gone "dead"... I turn the device off,
then press reset, as if "when it is sleepy" a soft reset is "safer".
I'm pretty sure this is just vodoo... but it works for me.

Now everytime I soft-reset I wonder if I ever going to see it reload...

[Tuningszocske]

Hi mgolanlan!

It's some off-thing, but can you write a key for MultiIE3 to me?
I'd be so happy :D

Thanks!

[Rudegar]

mgolanlan
well since a 3g phone works on the current gsm networks aswell
same thing with edge i dont find it all that unlikely that xda3 may support some of these new tech's

guess in many ways it also depend on ms's view on edge and 3g and video phone issues

btw...i think i already have a brain tumor, right above my right ear

hhmmm are you sure that you just dident forget to take off your bluetooth ear piece ? :P sleeping with it on may cause an uncomfortable ache ;)

[mrg2003]

It will have a find OBL/Saddam/hackers button
Make world peace
be 2mm thick
only occasionally crash when making a phone call, or syncing to outlook.

:roll:

[tbd@immigrantsong.de]

It will of course be much smaller, 1"x1", but compensate this with a (foldable) 15" display :wink:

[Rudegar]

my exp show that things which fold end up as
1 worn out so it'll not stay in any pos
2 the plastic breaks (happent 2 times with crap acer laptops for me)

so it's better to project the image then fold it out :)

[kitarolivier]

VGA screen ?

WM2003 specs say 240x320. No more, no less !

Maybe next version of OS will allow other rezs, but for now it will remain 240x320.

[Rudegar]

so what ?

xda1 came with 2002
xda2 came with 2003
xda2 will come with XXXX???

[mgolanlan]

VGA screen ?

WM2003 specs say 240x320. No more, no less !

.

1. it is official that wm2004 will support higher resolutions
2. 3rd party software already does, for PDFs, IE etc
3. a Toshiba pocketPC already avail with VGA res,
and it is typically run the 4-pixel-is-one thing, but has
exceptions for some software (pictures?!)

VGA-resolution ppc-size screen is already here!

[Peter Poelman]

I personally will not be happy until my PDA is a tiny, rounded stainless steel implant with a small cable that inductively couples to my optic nerves, a pickup coil for the charger mat that is under my bed-sheets, another tiny cable to hook to my inner ears for mike and earpiece, and some pickup electrodes to be fitted near certain regions in the brain.

Man, I can just see myself sitting there, enjoying the 4800x2400 stereo overlayed display, simply thinking my E-mails. And of course the device would use the same inductive optic-nerve pickup as a camera, and it would have enough processing power to replace people and objects I do not like in real-time, add nice works of art on otherwise boring surfaces, and add up all visual information about certain people until they can be renedered without their clothes on. Just think of the money saved on home decoration and travel.

[stryker]

I dont know whats more worrying.... the picture of the future or the fact you've put so much thought into it :lol:

[Rudegar]

i'd hate to do a hardreset of something connected directly to the optic nerve system :P

and what if you flash the device with the optic nerve stack for a different country system or maybe species system then you are compatible with ?
are there some versions from which you cant downgrade ?

;) :P

[JUICEe]

simply thinking my E-mails. And of course the device would use the same inductive optic-nerve pickup as a camera, and it would have enough processing power to replace people and objects I do not like in real-time, add nice works of art on otherwise boring surfaces, and add up all visual information about certain people until they can be renedered without their clothes on. Just think of the money saved on home decoration and travel.

LOL, I THOUGHT THIS ALREADY EXSISTED... :idea: acid :idea:

[mgolanlan]

I personally will not be happy until my PDA is a tiny, rounded stainless steel implant with a small cable that inductively couples to my optic nerves,


Well, it is interesting to notice how many peopl think this is just pure bullshit when in fact we're closer than most people realize.

Around 1980 my father made a note on VLSI technology. He said that
in 20 years we'll have a computer small enough and powerful enough
to hold in my hand, that will be more capable than the computer I
was using at the time (IBM 370 / VAX 850 running UNIX)

I thought it was going to be fantastic. He thought it would be useless....

Lets see:
1. head-on display inside sunglasses already exists and is up to 600x800.
making this display a standard for PDA use is probably coming soon.

2. why would you want to implant your PDA? I'd rather be able to
upgrade without surgery, and I'm still wearing closes anyhow.

>a pickup coil for the charger mat that is under my bed-sheets,

3. coil-charging mat is already here, just need the right chip in the device!
hopefully in 5 years we'll have the same charge-up mat in the office,
car, aircraft, hotel room...and by the bed.

>another tiny cable to hook to my inner ears for mike and earpiece,

4. we already have BT, didn't you hear? soon the devices will fit
completly in your ear canal ...

>Man, I can just see myself sitting there, enjoying the 4800x2400 stereo overlayed display,

5. sure, although this resolution will take awhile.

>simply thinking my E-mails.

6. ahh, I don't want my thinking to go electronic... my wife will spy on
my thoughts about other girls, not to mention the government. You could,
however, probably point with your eye onto the headon display keyboard,
which will read the keystrokes you've typed ... again this tech is aready
available ...



> And of course the device would use the same inductive optic-nerve pickup as a camera,

7. No, but we'll probably have a camera with better resolution than
our brain fitted on the "eyeglasses" anyway ... and unlike our eyes,
it will be able to zoom....

>and it would have enough processing power to replace people and objects I do not like in real-time, add nice works of art on otherwise boring surfaces, and add up all visual information about certain people until they can be renedered without their clothes on. Just think of the money saved on home decoration and travel

8. yes, this is all practical and easily done even today at low res...


are Y O U scared of the future?

You should be. We keep giving immoral rulers in non democratic
societies enough hard cash so they can buy high-tech to terrorise us.
Western society should reduce OIL usage dramatically, and establish
a complete ban on weapons export and import ... Otherwise we're all doomed.

[Cathy]

Not sure if I'm on a different wavelength than you guys, but I want the xdaIII to have Radio 4!

[malcolmct]

My XDA I already has Radio 4! Using VoiceCommand I can say 'Open Radio 4' and it connects using RealOne Player. I often wonder if I'm the only person walking around New York City listening to Radio 4... Of course, you need an agreement which allows unlimited internet access for this to make sense and T-Mobile in the US has just that.

Malcolm

[MattM]

not to mention that iPaq is planning to release a whole new ppc rumored to be with even more capabilities than the xda2. heard about it while attending a techie conference in hong kong...they're planning to use the iPaq 5550 (the one with bluetooth, fingerprint bio-thingee, etc) as the base model. from there they're going to add a high res camera, phone edition, possibly gps, etc. so it may give xda a run for it's money as they try to overtake one another in terms of capabilities. that's the sad part about releasing your product ahead of the pack; it becomes the basis for releasing an improved product by reverse engineering. in any case, it'll be most interesting to see how the next generation ppcs will look like and how they will perform.
2 cents worth..
robson

I'd definitely buy a hp iPaq Phone Edition :mrgreen: Especially one based off the 55xx series!

[Rudegar]

1. head-on display inside sunglasses already exists and is up to 600x800.
making this display a standard for PDA use is probably coming soon.
kinda low res if it's that close to the eye also if it's for both eyes widescreen would be better since our view is like that

scared of the furtur ?
noo way
the only thing that scare me is

other people
death
dismemberment
spiders
astroits crashing into me
wide spaces
narrow spaces
being humiliated nude
irs
desease
breaking my pda
having my butt kicked by jebus
not getting the xmas present i wish for
that they outlaw beer
that i somehow inlaw beer
emptying my E file (the file i have which is filled with the letter E from where i subtract 1 each time i write the letter E)

other than that i'm 100% fearless in a bulletproof kinda way

:P

[van]

I think and hope that added specifications of the XDA III as the following:


600x800 high-resolution VGA display ( at least 640x480)
TFT LCD-512000 color(at least 262,000 color)
RAM 256 MB
ROM 128 MB
800MHz processor
Built-in WiFi, bluetooth, GPS
2.0 (at least 1.2 MG)megapixel CCD-type digital camera. The camera is capable of 1-2 hour of video recording with sounds, digital zoom
Both GSM and CDMA
Supported external memory card reader, mini-printer, bar code scanner...
USB USB Slave
Supported Personal Passport, Credit Card with banking system...
Stereo speakers systems
Supported Video phone ???
Better battery
Smart Charge
...
Of course with O/S WM 2004

:P :P :D

[killercheung]

I think the most important thing is the Radio Module will be user exchangable, that means I can buy one body but use different raido module (GSM / CDMA / CDMA 2000 / W-CDMA ) ~~

But If they did that no one will buy a new phone forever :twisted: