How to really power off an XDA2 /Qtek2020

[adhoc]

Hello everybody; Sorry for this silly question, but it seems i cannot fully power off my smartphone in order to have it full charge the battery whithout the phone being on. By this i mean the smartphone totaly powered off and not only having deactivated the radio section of the phone which deals with the mobile phone section of the appliance and the bluetooth ; When i press on the power button, the only thing that happens is that the display switches off and not the smartphone; I was accustomed to a real switch off on my other smartphone P900 withj symbian UIQ 7.0

Have i missed something or is this condition a feature /bug of the phone or microsoft windows mobile 2003?

Thanking you all in advance for any input i remain

Arnaud

[satria]

Hi, I'm new here. Just known XDA II for two weeks.
About ur question, I think it's not a bug but rather a feature. U can turn off the phone by click the phone icon at the top bar.
I would hate it if I can't power off the pda without the phone is on.
'cause when I sleep I really don't need the pda section. :wink:

[Xant]

Hi

Yes, you missed something...

A "real" power-down is similar to a hard-reset, and believe me, you won't do a hard-reset if it is not totally necessary.

The XDA unpackes the program files at powerup into its sdrams and keeps the data in the sdrams when it is switch off. Of course this sdrams need power to keep the data.

Otherwise, you can still remove the battery :wink:

But, I agree, it would be interessting to know how long the battery lastest when the phone is switch off.

regards,

[mgolanlan]

after all, the battery IS removable.... and intended to be replaced.

But then your PPC will be on the "backup battery" and 30 minutes
later you will lose all your data. too bad.

The fact is, not only you absolutely cannot turn this thing off,
if you're down to 5% power and will be awhile before you
plug it for more power,

YOU BETTER TURN IT OFF AND TURN THE PHONE OFF

if you somehoe run down the battery to zero with a phone call,
you will have a hard reset in 30 minutes ....

this is all the result of the STUPID MS DECISION, long time ago,
not to put all the critical data/install/whatever in FLASH / SD card.

[andyclap]

this is all the result of the STUPID MS DECISION, long time ago,
not to put all the critical data/install/whatever in FLASH / SD card.

It wasn't a bad decision for the time - memory that kept its contents without power was very expensive, and very slow. It's still not great. Symbian went the no-power memory route, and the earlier devices (Nokia 9200 series) were crippled by it (CPU underclocked to 56MHz to cope with the memory, and too little memory to do everything people wanted).

Don't forget, you can't just use regular flash memory - it's still too slow, and will wear out with too many write cycles, however a good feature would be a 'hibernate' mode that dumps the static ram to flash ram, and restores on power up. Sort of like the *FlashMan utilities, but actually useful.