New ROM Version

[roffa]

On http://www.pocketpc-club.nl/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23379&highlight=dangaard you can see that this user "basile" has gotten hold on a new 1.60.021 ROM Update from Dangaard Telecom, one of the distributors in Europe. It seems that they've seen in their logs that a lot of people were downloading it, and I didn't even get the chance to get a hold of it! So if someone has this version please upload it so everyone can experience the real 1.60 version :)

Send a e-mail to one of the moderators @ Xda-developers

The old version T-mobile 1.60.006 rom update can still be downloaded @ http://www.xda-developers.com/incoming/rom160wwe/.

[Peter Poelman]

Did we already mention that this board now takes up to 50 MB attachments? ;)

[roffa]

On http://www.pocketpc-club.nl/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23379&highlight=dangaard you can see that this user "basile" has gotten hold on a new 1.60.021 ROM Update from Dangaard Telecom, one of the distributors in Europe. It seems that they've seen in their logs that a lot of people were downloading it, and I didn't even get the chance to get a hold of it! So if someone has this version please upload it so everyone can experience the real 1.60 version :)

Send a e-mail to one of the moderators @ Xda-developers

The old version T-mobile 1.60.006 rom update can still be downloaded @ http://www.xda-developers.com/incoming/rom160wwe/.

The link has changed in: http://www.pocketpc-club.nl/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22462&highlight=qtek

[roffa]

*bump

(doesn't anyone have this version??)

[Wiz]

I actually suspect that the new "Dangaard" Rom is not that interesting. The OS version offered in the package is 1.60.00, the Radio stack is 1.06.1, so both are the same as the T-Mobile upgrade. Only the extended Rom is different (1.60.21 instead of 1.60.06).

Aside from that, all non-qtek devices will encounter the Country ID error, thus preventing the upgrade.

[Gtot]

Yes, but i have a Qtek 2020 DK ver. and i would really like that upgrade. I was thinking about writing to user "basile" in the other forum, but maybee some of you people speaking Dutch, could do that ;)

Rgds

Torben

[roffa]

Yes, but i have a Qtek 2020 DK ver. and i would really like that upgrade. I was thinking about writing to user "basile" in the other forum, but maybee some of you people speaking Dutch, could do that ;)

Rgds

Torben

I tried :) but "basile" isn't replying at all...

@ wiz : still, it's nice to have a version without all the t-mobile stuff in your extended rom.

[Wiz]

@Roffa: I use the T-Mobile ROM without all the T-Mobile extensions. Simple, after a hard reset, soft reset it at the "3 seconds before customization" screen, customization will not take place anymore. After that, enable the Extended Rom and point and click only the cabs you wish to install .... In my XDA II the word T-Mobile can't even be found in the registry :-)

[sonadt]

I actually suspect that the new "Dangaard" Rom is not that interesting. The OS version offered in the package is 1.60.00, the Radio stack is 1.06.1, so both are the same as the T-Mobile upgrade. Only the extended Rom is different (1.60.21 instead of 1.60.06).

Aside from that, all non-qtek devices will encounter the Country ID error, thus preventing the upgrade.

So can you up the extended ROM for me to try?

[adhoc]

Hello; for your info, not only non Qtek holders but also Qtek holders having upgraded before to the TmobileNL rom will encounter this error!!

Could someone looki into this and come up with something to get rid of the country error;

So far i tryed to flash two new rom versions on my simfree and not tied to any mobile network Qtek2020 (the new european one and the new imate one) and both had the device display the country error;

It seems that they only rom i could flash would be Tmobile's german rom because when i launch the installer the error message is not displayed and i'm offered to flash the Qtek2020.

As there is no support from Qtek at all, which is not the case for imate's owners, could someone help us definitely get rid of this annoying problem which will prove to be more and more annoying as to the lack of elementary support by Qtek for its customers.

Brgds, Arnaud

[Looking Glass]

Hi Roffa and the rest:

Looks like the link to the 1.60 ROM version has been removed from the nl forum by the moderator (stripped down from basile user post).

Has anybody found that anywhere else? We the Qtek owners seem to be out of luck regarding support issues....
:cry:

[florin_m]

i found it :D
http://www.ace-hellas.gr/qtek/firmware/ruu16021wwe.exe

[Deadman]

Is there really a difference between the 1.6 and the 1.6.xxx???

Are there any real significant changes???

[thariman]

Sorry I tried, unable to upgrade get the country id error.
Currently running the 1.60 T-Mobile NL

But here is the content of the Extended ROM

AutoRun.exe
Broadcast_WWE.sa.CAB
CallerIDRC11_WWE_1.5.sa.CAB
CameraRC131_WWE_1.5.sa.CAB
Config.txt
MIDI56.sa.CAB
MMS1507_WWE.sa.CAB
OEM_4AP_WWE.CAB
OEM_WWE_03122301.sa.CAB
TPDisable.exe
TPEnable.exe
Version_AKU1_160.sa.CAB

[Gtot]

Are anybody able to download the file from the www.ace-hellas.gr site ???

[notepad]

Yes, it is possible, just try again just now, I am able to download. :wink:

[Wiz]

Yes, per specific request of Dangaard we have removed the link to the download from our forum. Our website, and with us undoubtedly many other websites, depends on good relations with manufacturers and distributors, and we see no use in harming these good relations by making available rom upgrades that are meant for a limited beta-testing group prior to publication.

We do agree, however, that when branding an OEM product, whether it ends up as an i-Mate, a Qtek 2020 or an O2 XDA II for that matter, it deserves good and proper end-user support. In this, I explicitly do see an obligation for Dangaard, as they seem to be the sole (or one of the few) European distributor for the Qtek 2020, to provide support for the machine, and provide the end-user community with updates as an when they become available.

This, however, does not implicate the right to an upgrade when it has not been made publicly available yet. There often is a reason behind this, and frankly, it would not be the first time that I see an upgrade "leaked" that actually does more harm than good. (For instance, there IS an upgrade out there that very radically and permanently nukes the bluetooth stack of an XDA II, never to be fixed again. Would YOU want to run the risk of having your manufacturer tell you that your warranty is void because you put an update on your machine that you are not supposed to have, let alone put on your machine for instance because it’s not device or provider specific?

That is why whenever there’s an upgrade out there, it is best to leave it to the appointed people that test these roms, or the ultimately manufacturer, to decide when and how it becomes available. Until then, it is at your *own* risk that you apply these type of upgrades, and don’t come crying for help when something happens. I actually DO foresee a lot of problems with non-T-Mobile machines that have the first T-Mobile upgrade applied, which most likely will prevent reverting to the proper operator or machine specific update once it becomes available (we have been seeing quite a few “Error 120: Country ID error” messages lately).

There’s a nice saying in Dutch, “Bezint, eer ge begint”, that roughly translates into “Think, before you leap”, and that nicely applies to this situation. Hence, I’d suggest, rather than hunting down an illegal upgrade, we all are better off joining forces in addressing the distributor, in this case Dangaard, and request regular updates, or at least regular status updates on when an where which upgrade will become available.

PS: I too have willingly put my O2 XDA’s warranty on the line by applying the first T-Mobile rom upgrade. ;-)

[xtinc]

i found it :D
http://www.ace-hellas.gr/qtek/firmware/ruu16021wwe.exe

It's gone, and I was not able to complete the download :(

[Looking Glass]

Yes, it's gone, again......

to Wiz:

I absolutly can admit (and understand) whatever YOUR policies are about YOUR web page posting, and your relationship with providers, but please, keep the moral speech for yourself.

We are supposed to know were we are, and be able to understand the implications of upgrades and misbehaved applications, so PLEASE, stop protecting us from ourselves. (or at least don't try to explain your censorship habits, just say you did because it's your policy, that is!)


:wink:

[bobsys]

Yes, per specific request of Dangaard we have removed the link to the download from our forum. Our website, and with us undoubtedly many other websites, depends on good relations with manufacturers and distributors, and we see no use in harming these good relations by making available rom upgrades that are meant for a limited beta-testing group prior to publication.

We do agree, however, that when branding an OEM product, whether it ends up as an i-Mate, a Qtek 2020 or an O2 XDA II for that matter, it deserves good and proper end-user support. In this, I explicitly do see an obligation for Dangaard, as they seem to be the sole (or one of the few) European distributor for the Qtek 2020, to provide support for the machine, and provide the end-user community with updates as an when they become available.

This, however, does not implicate the right to an upgrade when it has not been made publicly available yet. There often is a reason behind this, and frankly, it would not be the first time that I see an upgrade "leaked" that actually does more harm than good. (For instance, there IS an upgrade out there that very radically and permanently nukes the bluetooth stack of an XDA II, never to be fixed again. Would YOU want to run the risk of having your manufacturer tell you that your warranty is void because you put an update on your machine that you are not supposed to have, let alone put on your machine for instance because it’s not device or provider specific?

That is why whenever there’s an upgrade out there, it is best to leave it to the appointed people that test these roms, or the ultimately manufacturer, to decide when and how it becomes available. Until then, it is at your *own* risk that you apply these type of upgrades, and don’t come crying for help when something happens. I actually DO foresee a lot of problems with non-T-Mobile machines that have the first T-Mobile upgrade applied, which most likely will prevent reverting to the proper operator or machine specific update once it becomes available (we have been seeing quite a few “Error 120: Country ID error” messages lately).

There’s a nice saying in Dutch, “Bezint, eer ge begint”, that roughly translates into “Think, before you leap”, and that nicely applies to this situation. Hence, I’d suggest, rather than hunting down an illegal upgrade, we all are better off joining forces in addressing the distributor, in this case Dangaard, and request regular updates, or at least regular status updates on when an where which upgrade will become available.

PS: I too have willingly put my O2 XDA’s warranty on the line by applying the first T-Mobile rom upgrade. ;-)


Wrong forum buddy.
This is not The Dutch Pocket PC & Smartphone Club where the majority of visitors have no clue what they are doing and need Evangelists to guide them.

[rpc]

i found it :D
http://www.ace-hellas.gr/qtek/firmware/ruu16021wwe.exe

It's gone, and I was not able to complete the download :(
I downloaded it here with me but i dunno if i am able to upload it to the forum, cause there's no more space. :roll:

[xtinc]

I was able to download it from dangaard FTP :)