voice dial on XDA II [Archive]

jeffreysimmons

12-01-2004, 02:33 PM

Can someone please help. I have a new XDA II purchased a couple of weeks ago. I want to add voice dial so that I can record a voice tag to a specific contact, press a button on my bluetooth headset and the XDA II phone will dial that person for me.

Can some kind person please guide me exactly how to go about setting this up?

JSS

sullafelix

12-01-2004, 02:47 PM

You can't record voice tag unfortunatelly... Microsoft sells Microsoft Voice command for
pocket pc for 30$.. you don't need to train it or record voice tag.. it just recognize what
you say. it isn't bad

you can grab it from www.suprnova.com in the App/pocket pc section (you will need a bittorrent client, ABC http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net).

Jos

12-01-2004, 03:46 PM

You can use Neuvoice: http://www.neuvoice.com/xdasoftware.php

Allows you to record your own commands. I had problems with some English programs to recognize Dutch names in my contacts.
Neuvoice has to be trained, and this takes some time, but works perfect with foreign languages.

gazzaman2k

12-01-2004, 05:34 PM

i use vito voice dialer

works great you record your voice tags then if you have button plus installed i have mine lined to the contacts button if i hold it down it will say please say name so you say the voicetag and itll begin to dial works very well :)

ansaar99

12-01-2004, 06:49 PM

I tried MS voicecommand, and i was not impressed. The thing about "not training" is that it will recognise only the obvious. Also, it was very bad, to pathetic, in recognising things with the earphones on. Add to that noise when driving, it was impossible.

I found the fonix voicedial was very good. I downloaded a trial (gave me a few eeeks to use it, now theres a sensible trial period!), and it was very good.

I havent used vito, maybe give it a go.

gazzaman2k

12-01-2004, 08:09 PM

fonix is very good fun to play with but it likes to call my dad most of the time lol im like mum....

dial dad

does your head in lol

Vito is the best one ive tried

but fonix is very fun to play with lol

goztreh

12-01-2004, 09:56 PM

I am french and i need to 'train tag'.
I use neu voice navigator.
For 9,99$, the voice recognition works very well, indoor, outdoor with wind and driving in the car.

jeffreysimmons

13-01-2004, 12:19 PM

Thanks to all of you so far. I went to the Vito site and read that it does not work for XDA II.

""IMPORTANT! Doesn't work on MDAII/XDAII

VITO VoiceDialer PE is not currently supported by XDAII/MDAII. When recording a voice tag it brings up an error "Cannot process this file" Our development team is working on the solution. We apologize for the inconvenience. ""

Hopefully this can be fixed soon. I will try some other sites

JSS

starlir

13-01-2004, 12:48 PM

I've tried Fonix and MS Voice Command on XDAII and in my view MS Voice Command is the best. Contrary to one of the posts above I've found it very accurate especially after learning how to speak to it after the first couple of days. It works well with the wired earpiece but will not work with a bluetooth headset as it takes its input only from the microphone. As such it is a viable hands free solution and you dont need to train it so if you add a new contact then it is automatically recognised. Beware that the current US version doesnt support dialling of UK phone numbers ie you cannot say 'dial 0113 205 3345' as it will only accept 7 and 10 digit numbers that do not begin with a zero.

Amfibius

14-01-2004, 03:44 PM

I tried MS Voice Command and I must concur with others opinions. Because you cannot train it to learn your voice, it means that you must learn to speak the way it wants you to speak. Fair enough, but the 24-hour trial period is too short. After 24 hours, I could not get it to perform to my satisfaction. Perhaps with a longer trial period I might have learned how to use it.

That is why I am not buying it.

Gazza

14-01-2004, 04:39 PM

I've tried MS Voice command, and found that unless you want to speak with an American accent then don't bother.

I've also just tried Neuvoice, which works with tags that you assign, and that seems to work extremely well. Now if only one of them could work with a Bluetooth headset! But I guess that's a the fault of the XDA's bluetooth implementation, rather than any of the software.

sunny

15-01-2004, 10:37 AM

I purchased MS Voice command (use on my XD2) and as everyone has said it is no good unless you use an american accent...only problem is that I keep talking like an American now :roll: LOL

Thanks - Sunny.

jeffreysimmons

15-01-2004, 12:40 PM

""I've also just tried Neuvoice, which works with tags that you assign, and that seems to work extremely well. Now if only one of them could work with a Bluetooth headset! But I guess that's a the fault of the XDA's bluetooth implementation, rather than any of the software.""

Thanks again. Of course, if it does not work with a bluetooth headset, there really is not much point having it until it does, because the whole idea is to make voice dial calls that are completely 'hands fee'.

I spoke with O2 Mobile Internet support team who tell me that the software will soon have an update (bugfix) which will apparently fix this problem and allow the XDA II to work for voice dial. Does anyone know what this is, when is it coming and how will we be able to get it and put it onto our XDA???

JSS

ianlake

15-01-2004, 01:33 PM

latest information from O2 is quoting Spring 2004.................

.....................so that'll be 2005 then!

ian

jeffreysimmons

15-01-2004, 05:57 PM

I suppose we will have to rely on the brains of the wonderful people on this forum who will surely come up with a way around the problems.

There must be some way through it. All ideas are welcome

JSS

Jos

15-01-2004, 06:06 PM

Bougth a second hand P800 this week to compare with the XDA II.

I must say that the P800 is much more advanced on the phone point. It may be not as performant, but the thing works quite nicely. Voice control works perfect, also with BT headset.
And controlling and operating the phone is much easier thanks to the jog dial. I also like the better implemantation of the phone settings and options. Don't understand why this isn't implemented on more devices.

Think MS still has a long way to go with Pocket PC Phone Edition to reach at least the same phone functionality...

gazzaman2k

15-01-2004, 06:31 PM

@ Jos

do you know why that is?

its because the p800 is a symbian phone with PDA features

the XDA is a PDA with mobile features

theres the difference ;)

and p800 camera is shite lol

Looking Glass

15-01-2004, 10:51 PM

Hi all!

I Just changed from a P800, and fully agree with gazzaman2k and Jos, P800 is a "so-so good" phone, but a very POOR PDA.

XDAII is a fully functional PDA, but the phone parts leaves so much to be desired......

Any way, I still would be using my P800, should I have been able to fix the SYNC problem.... A phone PDA UNABLE to sync with with your PC is a useless combo. Not to mention the full distress recoveries I had to do with my Outlook contact and agenda files.....

I ended up recovering my old T68 phone, (I need it for the BT carkit) I passed my Cassiopeia EM505 to a friend, my wife got my P800 (unable to sell it on e-bay) and I'm so-so satisfied with my XDA.

Until:
1.- it gets the handsfree BT issue solved (car kit usage)
2.- The Voice command functions are fully implemented (BT headset too)
3.- The phone functions are VERY MUCH IMPROVED (one hand use)

I would NOT consider the XDAII a "PHONE-PDA", but a "PDA-phone". (Capitals being removed intentionally)

BTW, most of the "Voice/dial command" programs I tried are useless and/or unreliable.

:) but also :x

Jos

16-01-2004, 12:25 AM

Indeed, I agree the XDA II is a PDA-PHONE and the P800 a PHONE-PDA.

Would be nice to see an OS that would run on the fast hardware of the XDA II with all the plusses of Pocket PC and Symbian...

And the P800 is for my girlfriend. She needed a new phone and I could get this one for a fair price. Plus it gives me the chance to play around with both en see the pros and cons of both.

For performance and Outlook sync, I prefer the XDA II, but for phone funcionality I prefer the P800...

jeffreysimmons

16-01-2004, 01:00 PM

The XDA II is a quality PDA with phone functions. Since, I understand, other PDA's (even those without built in phones) are able to have voice dial functions for add-on phones, it seems to me that the XDA II could easily also have these functions. I think that it would just mean getting the right software. How and where from I would like to know?

It may be possible to improve the phone functions, but the single one thing that would improve the XDA II for me is the addition of voice dialing via bluetooth - so that you can record a tag to a contact, press a button on the earpiece, say the contact name and then the number is dialed. That handsfree capability would be a very good start - and let's face it, with driving restrictions etc, these days, it really is essential if the XDA II is ever going to be of any value as a mobile phone.

What I need to know for certain is:-

1.Is there a software that will allow me to have this function.

JSS

jeffreysimmons

16-01-2004, 01:03 PM

The XDA II is a quality PDA with phone functions. Since, I understand, other PDA's (even those without built in phones) are able to have voice dial functions for add-on phones, it seems to me that the XDA II could easily also have these functions. I think that it would just mean getting the right software. How and where from I would like to know?

It may be possible to improve the phone functions, but the single one thing that would improve the XDA II for me is the addition of voice dialing via bluetooth - so that you can record a tag to a contact, press a button on the earpiece, say the contact name and then the number is dialed. That handsfree capability would be a very good start - and let's face it, with driving restrictions etc, these days, it really is essential if the XDA II is ever going to be of any value as a mobile phone.

What I need to know for certain is:-

Is there a software out there that will allow this function?
Will it work on the XDA II ?
If not yet, when will it be available?
Does it depend on an XDA II software upgrade (bugfix) from O2?
When will that be available?
Can O2 help - or are they not bothered?

JSS

1.Is there a software that will allow me to have this function.

JSS

starlir

16-01-2004, 05:56 PM

Jeff, I think the answer is Microsoft Voice Command (especially when they release the UK version) together with a handsfree BT profile for the XDAII. Voice Command doesnt need you to record tags for every contact, it automatically recognises them when you add a contact to your database. I use Voice Command with a wired earpiece now very successfully, when the handsfree profile is available I'll move to bluetooth. So.... what we need O2 to do is get a BT handsfree profile out asap.

Looking Glass

16-01-2004, 08:12 PM

Jeff and Starlir have gone only half the way on their complain.... at least as this forum goes, IMHO.

No matter how succesfull Voice Command from MS might be (Don't look that way, should you read across this forum....) It has a BIG shortcomming: is't language dependant.

For command/voice dialing, no other phones (I've tried a lot) depends on the language, but on the associated "sound" tag. MS has made a nice try, but even english native speakers around the world complain about "the hard american accent" that has to be used!.

With so many phone makers around developing different sorts of Voice dial SW, I can not understand how "giant MS" has come out with such a poor implementation of this much needed feature in PPC Phone Edition... at an extra price!

:cry:

P.D. I fully agree with the full implementation of BT profiles, but I feel this is MS fault, not the carriers....

cbrow51

11-06-2004, 05:09 AM

Does anyone have an update on the fix to the BT profile that will allow the BT headset to communicate with the XDA to initiate MS Voice Command prompts? I have been using voice command for a couple of months now, both with a wired headset and direct with the phone, and found it to be preyty good. Contrary to the set up instructions, I have found recognition to be better with the microphone Auto Gain Control set to "enable" rather than "disable. Just purchased a bluetooth headset and was hoping that the BT upgrade was available. Does anyone have an update?

z0mbi3

11-06-2004, 09:12 AM

Jupiter

11-06-2004, 11:02 AM

What's with all this bitter rivalry between the p800 and the XDA ii. :evil: Calm down 'guys'.

Gadgets of the world unite!
:)

sniper762

14-06-2004, 12:29 AM

I just installed Vito on my M1000 and it works like a charm!

I'm still saving up for a BT headset, so no comments on that, but with the earbuds or the machine itself there's no problems!

Now I'm gonna be forced to buy it in 2 weeks... :(

Stefan out