!! OFFICIAL T-MOBILE MDA II ROM version 1.60.36WWE !!

[xkingz]

Get it here:

http://www.t-mobile.nl/zakelijk/htdocs/page/diensten/mda_upgrade.asp

[paperuccio]

Hi there!
Is there some of the dutch brothers that can tell me if the new 1.60.36 duch version has the english language like the 1.60.00?
Thank you very very much! :D

[sword]

How to upgrade from Dangaard 1.60.21 to the RUU16036WWE_T-Mobile_NL ?
Thanks.

[superperry]

Does anyone already try this upgrade? Whats new on this version? Any improvement? Thanks!

[superperry]

Does anyone already try this upgrade? Whats new on this version? Any improvement? Thanks!

[lummac]

Just send e-mail to T-mobile Germany, when they will release the german upgrade, as Iam still on 1.60.00GER.

So its wait and see. otherwize I will change to the dutch one, as that seemed to work perfectly fine with me the onofficial upgrade

[itsme]

this update contains radio 1.10,
osrom 1.60.00WWE
and extended rom 1.60.36

decrypt upgrade files with:xda2nbftool -x NK.nbf nk.nba 0x89124137
xda2nbftool -x Radio_.nbf radio.nba 0x12345678
xda2nbftool -x ms_.nbf ms.nba 0x25863614

[Georg Graz]

All files on ext.rom is from 01.09.2003. ? :shock:
Only version number changed on ext.rom. :roll:

[lummac]

Is the telephone screen collour still that disgusting pink?

[superperry]

Is there a need for an upgrade a new ROM from T-Mobile 1.60 to this 1.60.36? Since the radio version been upgraded thus this means we have more reliable signal strength?

THANKS!

[mjk]

I get a Country ID error when installing this ROM update on my Qtek 2020.
Has anyone an idea how to go on?

[itsme]

search for 'country AND error' in the forum.
lots of postings about that problem

[Xant]

What about the "big" step in the radiostack ????
I just upgraded to 1.06.01

Any expierence around ?
Any improvments ?

[Georg Graz]

I get a Country ID error when installing this ROM update on my Qtek 2020.
Has anyone an idea how to go on?

xda2nbftool -x NK.nbf nk.nba 0x89124137
xda2nbftool -x ms_.nbf ms_.nba 0x25863614
xda2nbftool -x radio_.nbf radio_.nba 0x12345678
xda2nbftool -sd PH10 -so Qtek -sl ENG -v ms_.nba
xda2nbftool -sd PH10 -so Qtek -sl ENG -v Radio_.nba
xda2nbftool -sd PH10 -so Qtek -sl ENG -v nk.nba
xda2nbftool -x NK.nba nk.nbf 0x89124137
xda2nbftool -x ms_.nba ms_.nbf 0x25863614
xda2nbftool -x radio_.nba radio_.nbf 0x12345678
HimaUpgradeUt.exe

[mjk]

thanks a lot :D
i get the error when encrypting:
WARNING: this does not look like a nbf header, possible you provided the wrong p
assword
WARNING: checksum is not ok, possibly you provided the wrong password

[xkingz]

I did it this way:

xda2nbftool -x NK.nbf nk.nba 0x89124137
xda2nbftool -x ms_.nbf ms_.nba 0x25863614
xda2nbftool -x radio_.nbf radio_.nba 0x12345678

xda2nbftool -sd PH10 -so Qtek -sl WWE -v ms_.nba
xda2nbftool -sd PH10 -so Qtek -sl WWE -v Radio_.nba
xda2nbftool -sd PH10 -so Qtek -sl WWE -v nk.nba

xda2nbftool -e NK.nba nk.nbf 921211

Del ms_.nbf
Del Radio_.nbf

Rename ms_.nba ms_.nbf
Rename radio_.nba radio_.nbf

download the upgrade.rar from this posting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4785

unpack it in the same directory, this will overwrite
HimaUpgradeUt.exe.

Run HimaUpgradeUt.exe

The strange thing is I have an original T-Mobile device, but the device ID is recognized as an Qtek.

Somehow I changed my device ID in my MDA II...

[itsme]

The strange thing is I have an original T-Mobile device, but the device ID is recognized as an Qtek.

Somehow I changed my device ID in my MDA II...

that is caused by this line
xda2nbftool -sd PH10 -so Qtek -sl WWE -v ms_.nba

[paperuccio]

This morning i did the upgrade.
i hadn't any problem to upgrade from the previous 1.60.00WWE NL.
This release seem to work as good as the 1.60.00. Plus, it has a SMS incoming tone.
The only problem (and it isn't quite little...) is that the battery full indicator says 3h57m versus the 7h30m of the previous release i had...
By the moment, i don't think upgrade has been a great idea... :roll:

Pap

[xkingz]

The strange thing is I have an original T-Mobile device, but the device ID is recognized as an Qtek.

Somehow I changed my device ID in my MDA II...

that is caused by this line
xda2nbftool -sd PH10 -so Qtek -sl WWE -v ms_.nba

The line changes the rom ID to Qtek so it can work on the MDA II with an Qtek ID.

If i use getdevicedata trick it says it's a Qtek. While I have an original Tmobile MDA II. Original Tmobile Rom's won't work.

If there was a way to change my device ID to Tmobile (what it should be anyway), I wouldn't have to use xda2nbftool and change the rom to Qtek right?

[mjk]

Isn't it possible to encrypt the files again with the XOR option?
What is exaclty in the Update.rar? Are these ammended versions of the update procedure with takes the decrypted files instead?

[itsme]

I was not entirely correct, the device id is taken from the first 40 bytes after the nbf header in the ms.nbf file. ( which is written to offset 0x10000 in the disk-on-chip )

see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/DiskOnChip

I don't remember if it is possible, but maybe you can write to that part of the disk-on-chip from CE.


Isn't it possible to encrypt the files again with the XOR option?
What is exaclty in the Update.rar? Are these ammended versions of the update procedure with takes the decrypted files instead?

the Update.rar file contains v0600 of the HimeUpgradeUt.exe tool. which is the one that understands devices with language id 'WWE'.
I am not sure about the newer v0910 which is in this update.
but if that works, you should be able to use the v0910 too, by xorring again.

[mjk]

When XORing again, it gaves this error:

WARNING: this does not look like a nbf header, possible you provided the wrong p
assword
WARNING: checksum is not ok, possibly you provided the wrong password

[paperuccio]

Correction!
The battery indicator,when full, has now turn to 7,20 hours.
Now i think i'll keep this release :lol:
Bye

Pap

[sword]

Some one to give the full detailed procedure to upgrade from Dangaard 1.60.21 to the RUU16036WWE_T-Mobile_NL ?
Many thanks.

[itsme]

mjk: you are right, it should not complain.
I updated xda2nbftool, such that it now detects if it is xor-encrypting, or xor-decrypting.

see http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/xdaii-update-format.html

[Chan]

Thank you very much.

I'll try this rom with my O2 Xda II. This forum is so great! :D

I've already put this news to first page of my homepage. :wink:

[mjk]

@Itsme: thanks for the quick update.

Am i right, that when we can use XOR encrypting, we don't use the UPDATE.RAR mentioned in earlier posts?

[Jos]

Some one to give the full detailed procedure to upgrade from Dangaard 1.60.21 to the RUU16036WWE_T-Mobile_NL ?
Many thanks.

Try this:

Works only for upgrade from Dangaard (or Qtek) 1.60.21 WWE to T-Mobile 1.60.36 WWE

1. Download the T-Mobile ROM from the link in this posting
2. You now get a file called RUU160036WWE_T-Mobile_NL.exe
3. Extract this file with Winzip to a new folder
4. Extract the attached file to the same folder
5. Start the conversion and upgrade by double-clicking convert.bat

Grtz,

Jos

[sword]

Thanks Jos, but I get this message " ERROR 103 : ROM IMAGE FILE NOT FOUND" !!!

[sword]

and this is probably the reason why :
@echo off
cls
echo ROM patch - Update from Dangaard (Qtek) 1.60.21 WWE to T-Mobile 1.60.36 WWE..............................
.............................
.........................etc

xda2nbftool -x nk.nba nk.nfa :roll: 0x89124137 !!! (nbf)
xda2nbftool -x radio_.nba radio.nbf 0x12345678
xda2nbftool -x ms_.nba ms.nbf 0x25863614

del nk.nba
del xda2nbftool.exe

echo Conversion finished!
cls
echo Insert your device in de cradle and make sure power is connected!
echo DON'T USE AN USB HUB!!!
pause
himaupgradeut.exe

[Jos]

Created the conversion file on my work, but I don't have my cradle here, so it's not tested yet.

It's just an automated way of doing all the steps described in several previous postings.

Since my XDA is a T-Mobile for the moment, I'll flash it with the Dangaard ROM this evening at home and try it out.

Grtz,

Jos

[xkingz]

There are some small errors in his convert.bat

Try this one:


@echo off
cls
echo ROM patch - Update from Dangaard (Qtek) 1.60.21 WWE to T-Mobile 1.60.36 WWE
echo Only tested on Windows XP
echo Update on your own risk, no warranty!!!!
echo Press Ctrl-C to abort
pause
cls
echo Starting conversion, this will take a few moments

echo Converting ...

xda2nbftool -x nk.nbf nk.nba 0x89124137
xda2nbftool -x radio_.nbf radio_.nba 0x12345678
xda2nbftool -x ms_.nbf ms_.nba 0x25863614

xda2nbftool -so Qtek -v ms_.nba
xda2nbftool -so Qtek -v Radio_.nba
xda2nbftool -so Qtek -v nk.nba

del *.nbf /q

xda2nbftool -x nk.nba nk.nbf 0x89124137
xda2nbftool -x radio_.nba radio_.nbf 0x12345678
xda2nbftool -x ms_.nba ms_.nbf 0x25863614

del *.nba /q

echo Conversion finished!
cls
echo Insert your device in de cradle and make sure power is connected!
echo DON'T USE AN USB HUB!!!
pause
himaupgradeut.exe


I used my method with the update.rar on purpose as normally the radio_.nbf and ms_.nbf are NOT encrypted, and this method does!

It's possible that by encrypting, you are locking your extended rom.
But maybe that's not true.

Anyway, it worked for me, and that's what's it al about. Isn't it?

[Jos]

You're right, I was a little bit to fast.

Modified the file in the original post, it should work now.

Don't know if the HimaUpgradeUt version 0.9.1.0 locks the extended ROM.
Mine was already locked anyway.
It think they just use XOR instead of the earlier password.
XOR is often used as encryption mechanism.

Grtz,

Jos

[noviur]

Can somebody give an idea what was improved in this new version of ROM, please?

[xkingz]

I noticed that my Device ID has been changed back to TMobile again with this rom update. :D

If the XOR method does produce locked extended roms try this:

1. Download the T-Mobile ROM: http://www.t-mobile.nl/global/media/zip/RUU16036WWE_T-Mobile_NL.exe
2. Extract this file with Winzip/Winrar to a new folder
3. Extract the attached file to the same folder and overwrite all files
4. Start the conversion by double-clicking Qtek.bat, IMATE.Bat or O2.bat

5. Now you can edit the extended Rom (MS_.nbf) with http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/ER2003Edit
6. Manually click HimaUpgradeUT.exe to update your rom.

Credits to Jos.

[ilvanni]

Dear Jos,
can you gently post a utility to install the new T-Mobile 1.60.36 WWE on i-mate with 152113wwe?
thank you in advance!
Ciao, Luca

[loscooby2]

Hi !

I am a total newbe in terms of modifing the roms of these phones...
I have a couple of questions that hopefully someone can help me with.

I have tried to search for possible language problems but I do not know if they all relate to the MDA II/XDA II...

I am waiting for my MDA II to arrive, it is the German version so I would like to upgrade the thing to the new MDA II NL Version(it is in English right)?

Will I have problems with Language ID upgrading to the NL-version, if so can the image be modified so that I can get it to work on my German MDA II?

My MDA II is sim-free so I guess I will not have any problems using my O2-subscription but for the fact that I will not have any GPRS-settings automatically installed.
Can the O2-software that handles the GPRS-configuration be used on a MDA II phone?

/L-O

[xkingz]

Translated from the dutch TMobile site:

Improved in this version:

* Optimal GPRS transmisson (E-mail, MMS, etc.)
* Improved Bluetooth functionality (manually activate serial Bluetooth profiles for connecting with external Bluetooth devices).
* Improved contactlist for sending SMS-messages (contacts with multiple phonenumbers now have extra option to send SMS message).
* Better SMS functionality (send SMS to multiple persons at once, with notification when succesfully delivered to all).
* The "+" sign will be saved if sending SMS to contacts with international phonenumbers.
* Saves *31# (show own number) and #31# (Hide own number) when used, in call history (could be usefull for redialling).
* Improved videostreaming
* Security updates for MSN Messenger

[noviur]

Thank you very much... is it stable? I am sure answer on this question is very important for everybody on this forum, but cannot be answered right away.
Thanking you in advance :-)

[noviur]

and one more thing :)
Improved Bluetooth functionality (manually activate serial Bluetooth profiles for connecting with external Bluetooth devices).
What did they mean by that clause?
Anything specific was changed concerning headset profile?
Once again - thank you

[brix3]

Hi!
I'd like to upgrade my O2 XDAII from QTek 1.60.00 WWE (12/03/03) and radio 1.06.01 (protocol 1337.16 - Ext ROM 1.60.21) to
T-mobile_1.60.36_WWE. Language is still english (Iwant to keep that).
I'd like to change also the boot-up image to O2 one.
What should I do ? What tools should I use ?
Thanks,
:)

[Jos]

Dear Jos,
can you gently post a utility to install the new T-Mobile 1.60.36 WWE on i-mate with 152113wwe?
thank you in advance!
Ciao, Luca

Try this:

Works only for upgrade from i-mate (any version) to T-Mobile 1.60.36 WWE

1. Download the T-Mobile ROM from the link in this posting
2. You now get a file called RUU160036WWE_T-Mobile_NL.exe
3. Extract this file with Winzip to a new folder
4. Extract the attached file to the same folder
5. Start the conversion and upgrade by double-clicking convert.bat

Grtz,

Jos

[Jos]

Hi!
I'd like to upgrade my O2 XDAII from QTek 1.60.00 WWE (12/03/03) and radio 1.06.01 (protocol 1337.16 - Ext ROM 1.60.21) to
T-mobile_1.60.36_WWE. Language is still english (Iwant to keep that).
I'd like to change also the boot-up image to O2 one.
What should I do ? What tools should I use ?
Thanks,
:)

Use the mod patch I posted earlier (only works with Qtek - Dangaard ROM).

To change the boot image, you need ER2003 Edit, can be found here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/ER2003Edit

To change the extended rom with the boot image, first patch the rom by running convert.bat from my earlier post. When the upgrade program starts after the conversion, just click cancel.

Unzip the attached file to the folder with the ROM.

Run decode.bat

Modify the rom with ER2003 Edit

Run encode.bat, the upgrade starts automatically.

Grtz,

Jos

[xkingz]

Don't forget to at least remove TMDNLcustomize.cab from the extended rom and config.txt.

If not it wil always change back your splash screen and background to Tmobile and changes region settings to netherland.

[Jos]

And before someone asks it, this is the way to upgrade from an O2:

Works only for upgrade from O2 (any version) to T-Mobile 1.60.36 WWE

1. Download the T-Mobile ROM from the link in this posting
2. You now get a file called RUU160036WWE_T-Mobile_NL.exe
3. Extract this file with Winzip to a new folder
4. Extract the attached file to the same folder
5. Start the conversion and upgrade by double-clicking convert.bat

Grtz,

Jos

[loscooby2]

I tried editing the extended rom file of:1.60.36WWE_T-mobile_NL.exe with ER2003edit but I got errors.
I did the same with RUU16006WWE_T-mobile_NL.exe
and that worked OK!

Am I doing something wrong or is this something that is already recognized?

/L-O

[xkingz]

The Extended rom and radiostack in 1.60.36 is unlike the the previous roms encrypted too.

I editted my version, so you can edit it with ER2003edit after the conversion.

[loscooby2]

Ooops, ! finally got it it is all in the thread(And I am supposed to be a Windows application developer) :oops:

/L-O

[popsi]

Just before I go ahead... Could someone verify that this looks correct:

http://public.clunet.edu/~aramleth/screen.JPG

Is it correct that the ext.rom does not have a version number when it's modified using er2003edit? Used the info from previous posts by Jos. (Qtek to new ROM)

Edit: I removed the TMDNLcustomize.cab from the extended rom, c onfig.txt and changed splash image to Qtek...

Thnx...

[ilvanni]

Try this:

Works only for upgrade from i-mate (any version) to T-Mobile 1.60.36 WWE

1. Download the T-Mobile ROM from the link in this posting
2. You now get a file called RUU160036WWE_T-Mobile_NL.exe
3. Extract this file with Winzip to a new folder
4. Extract the attached file to the same folder
5. Start the conversion and upgrade by double-clicking convert.bat

Grtz,

Jos

Work perfectly! Thanks again!

[kevin.beecher]

will this work in english if i upgrade my o2 phone with it. do you guys think its worth doing.

regards kevin b

[brix3]

Thanks to everyone, you're great !
I modified the ROM changing the image to O2, now before encoding I'd like to remove "NL" files and add O2 files in the extended ROM (especially O2 active interface I use a lot). What is the exact meaning of each file in the Extended NL WWE ROM ? What can I remove ? What's the best order ?
Thanks,

[brix3]

I tried to extract config.txt file from extended rom with er2003 edit but I got this error:

***** Error 00091 at: 2004-03-12 18:45:31
*** Module: frmER2003Edit
*** Procedure: ExtractFileFromImage
*** Line Number: 0
*** Description: Object variable or With block variable not set

What can I do ?
Thanks,

[Jos]

There was a little mistake in the encode.bat.
It would not update the extended ROM.

I posted the correct version in the previous posting and it's also attached to this message.

For those who created a customized extended ROM, just download "decode extended rom.zip" and only run encode.bat from the zip file.

Grtz,

Jos

[Jos]

Thanks to everyone, you're great !
I modified the ROM changing the image to O2, now before encoding I'd like to remove "NL" files and add O2 files in the extended ROM (especially O2 active interface I use a lot). What is the exact meaning of each file in the Extended NL WWE ROM ? What can I remove ? What's the best order ?
Thanks,

Take a look @ http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Himalaya%20Extended%20ROM%20Reference

Grtz,

Jos

[Jos]

Just before I go ahead... Could someone verify that this looks correct:

http://public.clunet.edu/~aramleth/screen.JPG

Is it correct that the ext.rom does not have a version number when it's modified using er2003edit? Used the info from previous posts by Jos. (Qtek to new ROM)

Edit: I removed the TMDNLcustomize.cab from the extended rom, c onfig.txt and changed splash image to Qtek...

Thnx...

Problem is the ms_.nbf file.
Due to a mistake in encode.bat it is called ms._nbf.

Just rename it to ms_.nbf and run the HimaUpgradeUt.exe again.

Grtz,

Jos

[Araaf]

Dear All,

After reading through this topic thoroughly, I have the following question: would it be theoretically possible to include every application you want on the device ROM as long as you have the correct .CAB file and the CAB file is less than 16 MB's big?

For instance: I have this file 'gps.ppc3_arm.CAB' which was included with an older version of Tom Tom Navigator, when you run this file on the PDA, a simple GPS Utility is installed. If I would include it in the 'ms_.nbf' (after decrypting it) with ER2003 and update the 'Config.txt' file in the same 'ms_.nbf' by adding the line 'CAB: \Extended_ROM\gps.ppc3_arm.CAB' somewhere in the middle, then this file application would always be included in my PDA, correct?

If this is true, then I am strongly thinking about creating my own ROM with Tom Tom Navigator embedded. All the essential cab and ini files combined take up about 4,7 MB... With a map stored on an SD card, the application would always be available and never would dissappear from the PDA...

Take care,

Araaf

[gratefuled]

Well, I'm a little confused here.
Please answer a few questions.
1. Is this an official T-Mobile ROM upgrade?
2. I own the MDA II, with 1.60-ROM, Radio-1.06.01, Ext ROM-1.60.06. I see a lot of help with how to convert this ROM from other devices, XDA II, Imate, etc, how about the MDA II?
3. Is there a Dutch or other English equivalent, or is this ROM Upgrade available in English?
4. I have read that it improves GPRS, Bt is better, SMS is better, anything else?
5. How to I get an English Version of this ROM upgrade?
6. Do you feel that this ROM upgrade is worth the bother of the hardreset and reconfiguring of the device?
Thank You
Ed

[xkingz]

Well, I'm a little confused here.
Please answer a few questions.
1. Is this an official T-Mobile ROM upgrade?
2. I own the MDA II, with 1.60-ROM, Radio-1.06.01, Ext ROM-1.60.06. I see a lot of help with how to convert this ROM from other devices, XDA II, Imate, etc, how about the MDA II?
3. Is there a Dutch or other English equivalent, or is this ROM Upgrade available in English?
4. I have read that it improves GPRS, Bt is better, SMS is better, anything else?
5. How to I get an English Version of this ROM upgrade?
6. Do you feel that this ROM upgrade is worth the bother of the hardreset and reconfiguring of the device?
Thank You
Ed

1. If you follow the link, you'll see it's straight from the T-Mobile website.
2. I have an MDA II, all these devices are the same, the difference is in the Rom that is being used.
3. The Rom says WWE which means World Wide English
4. The list of improvement are given in this topic.
5. It is english
6. The 1.60.06 is pretty stable, if your MDA II is working ok, and you feel no need to upgrade then don't.

Youre welcome.

[gratefuled]

xkingz
Thank you,
I was not aware that the T-Mobile Germany would publish a English (WWE) ROM.
Have you upgraded yourself?
Is the GPRS back to always on like the original ROM, 1.30?
That would be a reason to change for me, even though I have the utility that was published to correct this.
If the GPRS works better and faster I would be also interesteD.
I have not read what the BT fixes are. Is the headset profile fixed?
I cannot read German or I would read for myself.
Ed

[gratefuled]

Sorry for being a bother, but with the new ROM Upgrade, which I have just downloaded, is it a simple process to get the ROM on the device?
I see that a window comes up stating to continue so I assume it is self explanatory.
I'm not comfortable hacking around, unless I have good instructions.
Ed

[Slapper Boy]

Sorry for being a bother, but with the new ROM Upgrade, which I have just downloaded, is it a simple process to get the ROM on the device?
I see that a window comes up stating to continue so I assume it is self explanatory.
I'm not comfortable hacking around, unless I have good instructions.
Ed

Let me know how this works for you. I am in the same situation. Thanks.

[Jos]

I see that a window comes up stating to continue so I assume it is self explanatory.
Ed

Ed,

If you own a T-Mobile, it's straightforward.
Hacking is only necessary if your device has another brand.

Just open the downloaded file, make sure your MDA II is connected to the power and don't use an usb hub.

By the way, the update is published on the Dutch T-Mobile site, not the German one. Though the site is in Dutch, the upgrade is in English, since there's no Dutch version of Pocket PC Phone Edition 2003.

Grtz,

Jos

[mjk]

I upgraded to the new T-mobile 1.60.36 on My Qtek.
Now i want the Qtek 1.60.21 ROM back, but get also the Country ID error.
So i looks like this T-Mobile Rom changes my Operator ID to T-Mobile?
How can i get the original 1.60.21 ROM back in my Qtek?

[gratefuled]

Jos,
I get it the link is to the Dutch site, now it makes since.
Have you upgraded?
I suppose T-Mobile continues to leave the GPRS not always connected. I heard that this was their policy now, for fear of too much traffic. The good fellow Gorg, has that little app. that takes care of that anyway, and I hear you can interrupt the Ext. ROM loading by soft reset and not load all those unnecessary apps.
Interesting that there is little mention of this upgrade on other sites that have postings on the device.
Wish I knew more about the mentioned fixes on this thread and if there is actual improvement on device performance.
Ed

[Georg Graz]

Test speed download rate over GPRS

Radio version 1.10.00 is maximum speed 43Kbit/s :(,

after record back radio version 1.06.01 is again maximum speed 54Kbit/s :lol:

[mike-l]

Hi,

I just did the update on my imate and I would like to get back to my old imate rom but I receive country error code. How can I correct the problem?

Thanks,

Mike-l

[Georg Graz]

Hi,

I just did the update on my imate and I would like to get back to my old imate rom but I receive country error code. How can I correct the problem?

Thanks,

Mike-l

xda2nbftool -d NK.nbf nk.nba 921211
xda2nbftool -sd PH10 -so TMOBILE -sl WWE -v ms_.nbf
xda2nbftool -sd PH10 -so TMOBILE -sl WWE -v Radio_.nbf
xda2nbftool -sd PH10 -so TMOBILE -sl WWE -v nk.nba
xda2nbftool -e nk.nba NK.nbf 921211
HimaUpgradeUt.exe

or

xda2nbftool -d NK.nbf nk.nba 921211
xda2nbftool -sd PH10 -so TMOBILE -sl ENG -v ms_.nbf
xda2nbftool -sd PH10 -so TMOBILE -sl ENG -v Radio_.nbf
xda2nbftool -sd PH10 -so TMOBILE -sl ENG -v nk.nba
xda2nbftool -e nk.nba NK.nbf 921211
HimaUpgradeUt.exe

or

xda2nbftool -d NK.nbf nk.nba 921211
xda2nbftool -sd PH10 -so Qtek -sl ENG -v ms_.nbf
xda2nbftool -sd PH10 -so Qtek -sl ENG -v Radio_.nbf
xda2nbftool -sd PH10 -so Qtek -sl ENG -v nk.nba
xda2nbftool -e nk.nba NK.nbf 921211
HimaUpgradeUt.exe

or........

(country id = TMOBILE , Qtek ......)

[mike-l]

Here is the error:

Error 120: Country ID error N-3-8-8-8

Thanks!

Mike-l

[gratefuled]

Georg,
I have the ROM version 1.60.00WWE, Radio-1.06.01, which is the higher rate you list, but the lower 1.10 Radio profile-does that come with the new 1.60.36 ROM upgrade?
I thought the site said the GPRS is better?

Polling All
In general if you had to vote 1-5, 1-Best, 5-Worst, how would you rate the new ROM 1.60.36 upgrade?
Ed

[Georg Graz]

Georg,
I have the ROM version 1.60.00WWE, Radio-1.06.01, which is the higher rate you list, but the lower 1.10 Radio profile-does that come with the new 1.60.36 ROM upgrade?
I thought the site said the GPRS is better?

Polling All
In general if you had to vote 1-5, 1-Best, 5-Worst, how would you rate the new ROM 1.60.36 upgrade?
Ed

ROM 1.60.36 = 1.60.00WWE
Ext.Rom is only version number changed
Radio Version 1.10. Is Not Best.

Radio vote 5
rom 1.60.00 and ext.rom vote neutral = is queual to 1.60

[loscooby2]

I have now successfully upgraded my MDA II with the new rom.

I would also like to add the O2-specifik apps in the extended ROM.
I could make a custom-rom bz adding the O2-custom-files and remove
the T-Mobile files by using er2003Edit.
Can I use the HimaUpgradeUt.exe that came eith the new ROM and remove the NK.nbf and Radio_.nbf files to onlz update the extended rom.
Or will this generate errors?


/L-O

[xkingz]

I have now successfully upgraded my MDA II with the new rom.

I would also like to add the O2-specifik apps in the extended ROM.
I could make a custom-rom bz adding the O2-custom-files and remove
the T-Mobile files by using er2003Edit.
Can I use the HimaUpgradeUt.exe that came eith the new ROM and remove the NK.nbf and Radio_.nbf files to onlz update the extended rom.
Or will this generate errors?


/L-O
After the upgrade you can also reach the extended rom with this atached file.

Run it on your pocket PC, and do a soft reset.
After that the extened rom is visible from the explorer.

Now you can edit it just like you would with ER2003edit.
After a hard reset it will automatically install your own made Rom.

Good luck.

[loscooby2]

As so many said before me, this Forum is great!!

Thanks alot for helping me out!!

/L-O

[gratefuled]

Georg,
Few more clarifications: If I install the ROM 1.60.36 Upgrade will I automatically get the 1.10 Radio Version?
You state that the upgrade changes Ext. ROM only. If so why are they claiming the BT fix and GPRS enhancements? Unless this can be accomplished through the extended ROM.
If the Radio comes with it, and you give that a bad rating, and overall you give it a neutral rating, I would say that this upgrade is not worth it. Especially when considering that I would have to spend half a day getting my device back in order.
Thank You,
By the way your GPRS Tweak is great and has made me very happy to get my GPRS back to Always On, which was taken away with the 1.60 ROM
Ed

[loscooby2]

Hi,

Well the upgrade includes the actual OS-upgrade, The new 1.10 Radio-stack and the T-Mobile extended ROM.

I am pretty sure that you can remove the Radio-stack-upgrade from the upgrade to stay with your current one.
Can somebody verify this?

I will soon try to cook my own Ext-rom so that I get the O2-specifik GPRS-settings and stuff.

I did use the wxr.rom viewer patch metioned earlier but my ROM seems to be write protected so I must customice and ext-rom using the er2003Edit to make changes to the ROM!

/L-O

[mjk]

Why do you think the radio 1.10 ROM is worse?
I have seen a disconnect button when you tap the communication icon on the task bar.
But I know now that is not a funtion of the Radio 1.10 ROM, but something in extended ROM.

I went back to my original Qtek 1.60.21 ROM.
Because i had a crash within a day, and i can't delete files with the File Explorer in my \windows\Startup folder.

I made my own ROM from the original 1.60.21 ROM and the radio Rom 1.10 from T-Mobile and some add-on in extended ROM from T-mobile such as, GPRSMonitor_WWE.sa.CAB and Clearvue.sa.cab.

Thanks to all who wrote the info in this GREAT forum. :D

[Georg Graz]

Hi, Ed
Georg,
Few more clarifications: If I install the ROM 1.60.36 Upgrade will I automatically get the 1.10 Radio Version?

Yes (No if delete file Radio_.nbf)

You state that the upgrade changes Ext. ROM only. If so why are they claiming the BT fix and GPRS enhancements?

The fix is already on 1.60.00 ROM and EXT.ROM 1.60.21.

Unless this can be accomplished through the extended ROM.

??

If the Radio comes with it, and you give that a bad rating, and overall you give it a neutral rating, I would say that this upgrade is not worth it.

Yes this upgrade is not worth it.

Especially when considering that I would have to spend half a day getting my device back in order.

Yes 30 minutes.

[gratefuled]

Georg,
Thank You,
I will not be upgrading to the 1.60.36, unless I hear something more positive down the road. I'm surprised that this ROM upgrade was even published.
When are they HTC, T-Mobile) going to provide a real upgrade, that seriously fixes the BT Stack and provides other worthwhile enhancements?
Oh well, perhaps the new Motorola MX will have it more together.
This is not to say that I do not think that the HTC 2003 PPC Phone is not a great device, because I do. In fact this is the best device I have ever owned. Just spoiled and would like better support for the device.
Ed

[Slapper Boy]

Georg,
Thank You,
I will not be upgrading to the 1.60.36, unless I hear something more positive down the road. I'm surprised that this ROM upgrade was even published.
When are they HTC, T-Mobile) going to provide a real upgrade, that seriously fixes the BT Stack and provides other worthwhile enhancements?
Oh well, perhaps the new Motorola MX will have it more together.
This is not to say that I do not think that the HTC 2003 PPC Phone is not a great device, because I do. In fact this is the best device I have ever owned. Just spoiled and would like better support for the device.
Ed

I think I will go the same route and wait. I was hoping you would take the plunge and be my guinea pig. He he he. ;)

[superperry]

Test speed download rate over GPRS

Radio version 1.10.00 is maximum speed 43Kbit/s :(,

after record back radio version 1.06.01 is again maximum speed 54Kbit/s :lol:


I actually upgraded my MDA2 with a Radio version 1.10 yesterday and my speed is average of 47 Kbit/s. (thats according to GPRS-monitor) and last night around 3 AM(PST) my speed bumps to 90Kbit/s once and another 73 Kbit/s. So I guess the speed is depends on the traffic of how many people are using at that time. And today mid-afternoon my speed is only 43-48Kbit/s and when I do the speed test I get 50Kbit/s....(using Performance testing(string))

USING this site: http://performance.chello.at:81/



Bluetooth is still not fix I am still using Pocket Bluetooth to connect to my PC(using USB Dongle).

I have had atleast 3 soft-reset yesterday thats after I install some of my program and seing some unusual thing.

So far everything seems to be stable right now I havent had any problem yet..

GPRS still not always on.. And Thanks for your software George my GPRS is now always on....

TO: George, I realized that if I set your software to like 2:30 h:m, it doesnt work for me even on my 1.60 ROM(before the upgrade)

[xtinc]

Well I also upgraded my XDA2 to this ROM from Dangaard QTek 1.60.21. This ROM seems fine to me. The last soft reset that I had was three days ago during the installation process. The only thing that bothering me is that when I install an app the shortcuts will only show in programs folder after a soft reset.

For GPRS performance, it does not really matter since I am billed per kb.

Regarding bluetooth, I still have problems sending/recieving files to other devices like SE T610. On Qtek 1.60.21 I can send and recieve files from N3650, with this ROM I can send but the can no longer recieve files.

Overall this ROM is stable I think I'm gonna stick to it for a while.

[seal]

I have never had such an unstable Rom, it has to be reset constantly and not because it slows down but because it just freezes altogether, very annoying when your on the phone. The best rom I ever had was one I got off the Club i-mate site last year, I can't remeber the details but I have this: ruu15283wwe.cdl... I have the file but cant load it now I have the T-Moble rom on the phone. I get "ERROR 120: COUNTRY ID ERROR" is there any way of getting this rom back on the phone, it was so stable and the radio was the best ever.

Regards Greg.

[seal]

I had another browse and I found the answer, this forum is an amazing place. Many thank.....

Regards Greg.

[Georg Graz]

Test speed download rate over GPRS

Radio version 1.10.00 is maximum speed 43Kbit/s :(,

after record back radio version 1.06.01 is again maximum speed 54Kbit/s :lol:


I actually upgraded my MDA2 with a Radio version 1.10 yesterday and my speed is average of 47 Kbit/s. (thats according to GPRS-monitor) and last night around 3 AM(PST) my speed bumps to 90Kbit/s once and another 73 Kbit/s. So I guess the speed is depends on the traffic of how many people are using at that time. And today mid-afternoon my speed is only 43-48Kbit/s and when I do the speed test I get 50Kbit/s....(using Performance testing(string))

USING this site: http://performance.chello.at:81/



Bluetooth is still not fix I am still using Pocket Bluetooth to connect to my PC(using USB Dongle).

I have had atleast 3 soft-reset yesterday thats after I install some of my program and seing some unusual thing.

So far everything seems to be stable right now I havent had any problem yet..

GPRS still not always on.. And Thanks for your software George my GPRS is now always on....

TO: George, I realized that if I set your software to like 2:30 h:m, it doesnt work for me even on my 1.60 ROM(before the upgrade)

Re-ran I am test 1.10 radio and speed GPRS be truly a good (like 1.06 radio).

[brix3]

I tried to extract config.txt file from T-Mobile extended rom with er2003 edit (1.1.16) on Win XP but I got this error:

***** Error 00091 at: 2004-03-12 18:45:31
*** Module: frmER2003Edit
*** Procedure: ExtractFileFromImage
*** Line Number: 0
*** Description: Object variable or With block variable not set

What can I do ? :cry:
Thanks,

[Aureliaan]

Hi there!
Is there some of the dutch brothers that can tell me if the new 1.60.36 duch version has the english language like the 1.60.00?
Thank you very very much! :D


Yes it has.

Ciao

[Jaron]

This forum rulez man... Successfully upgraded my XDA II rom to 1.60WWE using the instructions provided here... Thankz so much!

[Wa|t]

Hello,

After going through this whole thread, i have some idea of how to upgrade but i'm still not sure if this can be done. i currently hold this rom:

Rom Version : 1.03.00 USA
Radio Version: 1.05.14

and would like to upgrade to the latest T-Mobile 1.60.36WWE BUT with the radio version of 1.06.01 cuz as Georg mentioned, 1.10.00 radio rom that comes with 1.60.36WWE kinda sucks. Anyway i can do this?

If not, how do i just upgrade from O2 XDAII 1.03.00 USA to 1.60.36WWE? can someone point me to the correct zip file that you gurus made? thanx a million.

[gratefuled]

Walt,
Read Georg's post just a couple above yours. He has re-evaluated the 1.10 radio and finds it just as good as the 1.06.
My recommendation to you, for sake of simplicity is to just go ahead and upgrade to the new 1.60.36 ROM upgrade.
If this is not the way you interpret his post you could always just upgrade to the 1.60, which is what I'm running on my MDA II. I chose not to upgrade because there does not seem to be enough enhancements to upgrade. Wish they would finally get a ROM upgrade out that would fix Bluetooth, and other features that would be a legitimate upgrade. I have had my device since 11-03, and you would think that they would at least have the BT fixed by now, I mean it is not like the technology is not out there.
There I go bellyaching again about the best device I have ever owned
Ed

[Wa|t]

Walt,
Read Georg's post just a couple above yours. He has re-evaluated the 1.10 radio and finds it just as good as the 1.06.
My recommendation to you, for sake of simplicity is to just go ahead and upgrade to the new 1.60.36 ROM upgrade.
If this is not the way you interpret his post you could always just upgrade to the 1.60, which is what I'm running on my MDA II. I chose not to upgrade because there does not seem to be enough enhancements to upgrade. Wish they would finally get a ROM upgrade out that would fix Bluetooth, and other features that would be a legitimate upgrade. I have had my device since 11-03, and you would think that they would at least have the BT fixed by now, I mean it is not like the technology is not out there.
There I go bellyaching again about the best device I have ever owned
Ed

i guess you are right. it will take some effort to keep a different version of radio rom. i want to do an upgrade cuz i'm using the buggy 1.03.00 USA rom. So what should i do to upgrade it into 1.60.36WWE? i keep getting this country code error. I'm using XDA II btw.

[Wa|t]

opps...i must be blind. i got it. thanx xkingz

[TMB]

hello

is t possible to change this rom in french language???

[brix3]

Who can help me ?
I have an O2 XDA II upgraded with Dangaard ROM with the following features:

Model No: PH10B
Platform Pocket PC
ROM Version: 1.60.00WWE
ROM date: 12/03/03
Radio version: 1.06.01
Protocol version: 1337.16
ExtROM Version: 1.60.21

I tried to update it with the new T-Mobile 1.60.36 ROM using the latest convert.bat file found in this thread but I got a Country-ID error.
This is the contents of the batch file

-----------------------------------------------------------------

@echo off
cls
echo ROM patch - Update from Dangaard (Qtek) 1.60.21 WWE to T-Mobile 1.60.36 WWE
echo Only tested on Windows XP
echo Update on your own risk, no warranty!!!!
echo Press Ctrl-C to abort
pause
cls
echo Starting conversion, this will take a few moments

echo Converting ...

xda2nbftool -x nk.nbf nk.nba 0x89124137
xda2nbftool -x radio_.nbf radio.nba 0x12345678
xda2nbftool -x ms_.nbf ms.nba 0x25863614

xda2nbftool -so CDL -v ms.nba
xda2nbftool -so CDL -v Radio.nba
xda2nbftool -so CDL -v nk.nba

del *.nbf /q

xda2nbftool -x nk.nba nk.nbf 0x89124137
xda2nbftool -x radio.nba radio_.nbf 0x12345678
xda2nbftool -x ms.nba ms_.nbf 0x25863614

del *.nba /q

del xda2nbftool.exe

echo Conversion finished!
cls
echo Insert your device in de cradle and make sure power is connected!
echo DON'T USE AN USB HUB!!!
pause
himaupgradeut.exe

------------------------------------------------


What should I do ? :cry:
Thanks,

[topps]

Excuse me for being dense...but I assume that all these posts do not relate to the newly announced WM2003 Second Edition?

If not, anybody have any idea on if/when we are likely to be able to upgrade our ROMS. This looks like a much more exciting/useful upgrade than 1.60 (or am I missing something and Second Edition got snuck into 1.60 ROMs??)

[chris_khho]

And before someone asks it, this is the way to upgrade from an O2:

Works only for upgrade from O2 (any version) to T-Mobile 1.60.36 WWE

1. Download the T-Mobile ROM from the link in this posting
2. You now get a file called RUU160036WWE_T-Mobile_NL.exe
3. Extract this file with Winzip to a new folder
4. Extract the attached file to the same folder
5. Start the conversion and upgrade by double-clicking convert.bat

Grtz,

Jos

Dear Jos,

After following your instruction, is that meant the upgrade for my O2 xda2 will only change the ROM to 1.60WWE and all the other settings will remain O2 (No T-mobile features, just O2???)

I also want to ask is this upgrade alright for Asia user?? I think it should be.

Thanks very much.

[brix3]

Who can help me ?
I still get a Country-ID error trying to update my O2 XDAII already upgraded with Dangaard ROM with the new T-Mobile 1.60.36 ROM using the latest convert.bat file found in this thread.

Now my PPC has the following features:

Model No: PH10B
Platform Pocket PC
ROM Version: 1.60.00WWE
ROM date: 12/03/03
Radio version: 1.06.01
Protocol version: 1337.16
ExtROM Version: 1.60.21

Here you can find an attached file with device data.
Below you have the convert.bat file. How should I change that ? I'm not really good at hacking.

Pls help !!
Thank you


This is the contents of the batch file

-----------------------------------------------------------------

@echo off
cls
echo ROM patch - Update from Dangaard (Qtek) 1.60.21 WWE to T-Mobile 1.60.36 WWE
echo Only tested on Windows XP
echo Update on your own risk, no warranty!!!!
echo Press Ctrl-C to abort
pause
cls
echo Starting conversion, this will take a few moments

echo Converting ...

xda2nbftool -x nk.nbf nk.nba 0x89124137
xda2nbftool -x radio_.nbf radio.nba 0x12345678
xda2nbftool -x ms_.nbf ms.nba 0x25863614

xda2nbftool -so CDL -v ms.nba
xda2nbftool -so CDL -v Radio.nba
xda2nbftool -so CDL -v nk.nba

del *.nbf /q

xda2nbftool -x nk.nba nk.nbf 0x89124137
xda2nbftool -x radio.nba radio_.nbf 0x12345678
xda2nbftool -x ms.nba ms_.nbf 0x25863614

del *.nba /q

del xda2nbftool.exe

echo Conversion finished!
cls
echo Insert your device in de cradle and make sure power is connected!
echo DON'T USE AN USB HUB!!!
pause
himaupgradeut.exe

------------------------------------------------


What should I do ? :cry:
Thanks,

[Jos]

After following your instruction, is that meant the upgrade for my O2 xda2 will only change the ROM to 1.60WWE and all the other settings will remain O2 (No T-mobile features, just O2???)

I also want to ask is this upgrade alright for Asia user?? I think it should be.

Thanks very much.

No, the O2 stuff will be lost.
If you want to keep that, you have to decode the radio_.nbf file with this command:

xda2nbftool -x radio_.nbf radio_.nba 0x12345678
xda2nbftool -so O2 -v Radio.nba
del radio_.nbf
ren radio_.nba radio_.nbf

After that, you copy the radio_.nbf file to a folder with an extracted O2 ROM and run the upgrade.
In this way, you keep the O2 and Asian stuff.

You also could decode the extended rom (the decode file is somewhere on this thread) and use er2003edit to modify it with the O2 stuff.

I tried to do only a radio upgrade with deleting the files ms_.nbf and NK.nbf. The upgrade started, but my XDA II got stuck in the bootloader, and I had to do a complete upgrade to get things solved.

Grtz,

Jos

[Jos]

Who can help me ?
I still get a Country-ID error trying to update my O2 XDAII already upgraded with Dangaard ROM with the new T-Mobile 1.60.36 ROM using the latest convert.bat file found in this thread.


You use the wrong convert file. This one is for a conversion from i-mate to T-Mobile, not for Dangaard (Qtek).

Use this file http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=311, should work.

Grtz,

Jos

[chris_khho]

Thanks Jos,

Is the original 1.52.00WWE available in this website?
I may also need for downgrading after this upgrade if anything happens to my device.

Thanks again.

[Jos]

Is the original 1.52.00WWE available in this website?

Chris,

As far as I know, there is no update available yet from O2.

But you could make a backup from your current rom to a sd card.
Take a look here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=6392&highlight=backup+rom) and here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4608&highlight=d2s).

Grtz,

Jos

[chris_khho]

Thanks very much Jos,

But I think I have to give up. The procedures are so complicated.

I would like to wait for something similar to OSImagetool for xda1.

[thePhoneGuy]

And before someone asks it, this is the way to upgrade from an O2:

Works only for upgrade from O2 (any version) to T-Mobile 1.60.36 WWE

1. Download the T-Mobile ROM from the link in this posting
2. You now get a file called RUU160036WWE_T-Mobile_NL.exe
3. Extract this file with Winzip to a new folder
4. Extract the attached file to the same folder
5. Start the conversion and upgrade by double-clicking convert.bat

Grtz,

Jos

I tried this using your instructions. I get the following error when i double-click convert.bat:

WARNING: this does not look like a nbf header, possible you provided the wrong password

WARNING: checksum is not ok, possibly you provided the wrong password

Then it gives a bunch of unrecognized language on the command dialog that was opened up.

Then it asks to connect the device and hit any key to upgrade..

once the window for upgrade starts, it gives me a COUNTRY ID ERROR!!

I just purchased an O2 XDA II and I have the following in the device version:

ROM version : 1.52.00WWE
ROM Date: 10/23/03
Radio Version: 1.05.14
Protocol Version: 1337.14
ExtROM version: 1.52.82

Under identity:

Model NO. PH10B


Any suggestions on how to upgrade and get rid of the error? Also, when i click convert.bat, it says it is converting from Qtek to t-mobile ROM? :( :(

Thanks,

K

[Jos]

Kophosh,

Make sure you get the right upgrade ROM version from here (http://www.t-mobile.nl/global/media/zip/RUU16036WWE_T-Mobile_NL.exe).

The text about Dangaard is a mistake in the batch file. The conversion parameters are correct for O2. I uploaded the modified file with the right text to the forum, it's also attached.

You're the first one with problems.
Please try again and make sure you first extract the rom update to a new folder with Winzip.

I tested it out, works fine here.

Grtz,

Jos

[thePhoneGuy]

Jos,

Thanks for your help. I think it was the ROM that i had downloaded earlier. It was corrupt.

Kohposh

[thePhoneGuy]

Also, Jos, I have T-mobile here in the US. Thus, I don't want to hack into the ROM. But I would like to get the themes for the O2 ROM, such as Today's THeme, Dialpad.. etc.

How can i add those to my extended ROM? I have downladed the Extended ROM viewer from this post.

Thanks,

Kohposh

[brix3]

Thank you Jos, I finally did it !
How can I keep GPRS always-on ?
I deleted from extended ROM all T-Mobile specific files but I still don't have the always-on function. What should I do ?
Thanks, :cry:

[Jos]

How can I keep GPRS always-on ?


There's a tool here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=6500&highlight=gprs+always) to change the setting.

Grtz,

Jos

[Jos]

But I would like to get the themes for the O2 ROM, such as Today's THeme, Dialpad.. etc.

How can i add those to my extended ROM?

Kohposh,

There is a tutorial here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=6470&highlight=gprs+always) how to modify an extended ROM.

Grtz,

Jos

[TMB]

is it possible to use any version of HimaUpgradeUt.exe with any ROm ?
I obtain an error message when I try to use HimaUpgradeUt.exe Version 0.9.1.0 with French version rom dangaard (1.5 a error message "error 102 , checskum is not correct" ??

[thePhoneGuy]

There is a tutorial here how to modify an extended ROM.

Grtz,

Jos

Jos, I am just looking for the the original XDA II's today plugin and phone dialer skin. Not planning on hacking the EXTENDED ROM!!

I don't think i need to hack in just to download a few files in my windows directory.. do I??

Thanks,

k

[Jos]

is it possible to use any version of HimaUpgradeUt.exe with any ROm ?

No, it's not possible.

The ROM's are encoded. This is different for every version of HimaUpgradeUt.exe.

You can find more info here (http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/xdaii-update-format.html).

Grtz,

Jos

[Jos]

[quote="thePhoneGuyI don't think i need to hack in just to download a few files in my windows directory.. do I??
[/quote]

I have no idea where these files are in the windows directory. I know it can be done by changing the extended ROM.

Maybe someone else can help?

Grtz,

Jos