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JasonLP
28-03-2004, 01:20 AM
I am having problems with my XDA (T-Mobile Phone Edition). Here are the symptoms:

- The system runs extremely slowly (it takes several seconds for the start menu to come up, for instance).

- So, I soft-reset the device.

- The T-Mobile splash screen comes on with version info (4.01.16), but with an *empty* R and G above them. (No radio version displayed, and no whatever-G-stands-for displayed).

- I wait.

- I wait some more.

- After waiting about 20 minutes, the Today screen finally comes on. Again, the system is extremely slow, and the phone part does not work at all.

- If I try to boot into the Wallaby boot loader, I get the dreaded "GSM Error".

A little more info:

I had upgraded to 4.01.16 at a ROM kitchen about a week ago, as well as upgraded the radio stack to the latest T-Mobile (6.25.02 I believe.). The system was running fine until yesterday.

When I first discovered the issue yesterday, I tried several attemps to reboot, then finally had to resort to a hard-reset.

The hard-reset succeeded, then I reinstalled all my applications, settings, and data. I did a couple of soft-resets to be sure it was working. It was.

This morning, I noticed the extreme slowness issue again, and soft-reset the device, and the same thing happened.

So, I happened to be near my local T-Mobile retailer, and explained the issue. He played with the device for awhile and was on the phone with a technician from T-Mobile. He hard-reset the phone and declared it fixed.

He did say he had to change the internet settings from internet3 to internet2. My internet had been working fine all week, and I'm sure I was on internet2, but in his words, "If you are on the wrong internet setting, you can't connect to the internet, the phone, or anything." Now I know he's either full of it, or misinformed, although he was extremely helpful and pleasant.

So....the question is: What *is* going on with my phone? I saw a reference on this board to something called repair.zip, but I didn't see it associated with any particular symptoms, so I'm hesitant to try it yet.

I'm 90% sure that my phone isn't permanently fixed, so I'm putting this out to the gallant men and women of xda-developers for insight.

Thanks!
-Jason-

OptimismPrime
28-03-2004, 05:08 AM
Windows Mobile 2003 has a realy nasty bug that microsoft is aware of and is providing a hotfix for.

WM2003 tends to not delete any notifications it collects from applications.
On Soft-Resets there are even more notifications wich in addition to the not deleted notifications from before add up and add up to more and more slow down the OS.

My advice since i'm extremly lazy and don't want to search for the exact link for the fix:

Go to this kitchen: http://xda.weblink.net/

And check the following 3 options:

create 'System Tools' subfolder under 'Programs'
- Check Notifications (Version 1.6 ) (29 kB)
- Notification Clear Fix (Version 1.1 ) (5 kB)

Registry hacks and defaults
- Fix 'multiple resets make device slow' bug (not A.30.0x)

while the first one gives you an application to manualy delete outdated notifications, the second one seems to be the official MS fix for the problem, while the 3rd seems to be an inofficial fix from the good guys here at XDA dev.

always worked for me ;)

JasonLP
28-03-2004, 06:46 AM
My advice since i'm extremly lazy and don't want to search for the exact link for the fix:

Go to this kitchen: http://xda.weblink.net/

And check the following 3 options:

create 'System Tools' subfolder under 'Programs'
- Check Notifications (Version 1.6 ) (29 kB)
- Notification Clear Fix (Version 1.1 ) (5 kB)

Registry hacks and defaults
- Fix 'multiple resets make device slow' bug (not A.30.0x)



Funny thing is, I'm pretty sure that I selected these options when I cooked my ROM. Looking in my startup folder, I see clear_notify.exe.

And I'm not entirely convinced that it is the problem related to the notifications bug anyway. What I'm seeing is that the entire GSM functionality seems to have been blown away somehow, and the device is acting as if something were cranking at 100% CPU.

Biso007
28-03-2004, 01:07 PM
Hi ...

I faced what you are talking about long time ago ... this is purely RSU problem and especially if the "Debug/Calibrate" option of the GSM is triggered by mistake or due to ROM bug.

Try to do GSM reset from the bootloader GSM menu ... it may take many times to stop this symptom ... but don't try to change the band!

Good luck.

cgigate
28-03-2004, 06:12 PM
I am having problems with my XDA (T-Mobile Phone Edition). Here are the symptoms:

- The T-Mobile splash screen comes on with version info (4.01.16), but with an *empty* R and G above them. (No radio version displayed, and no whatever-G-stands-for displayed).-Jason-
you have problem of your XDA GSM radio stack!

JasonLP
28-03-2004, 08:19 PM
you have problem of your XDA GSM radio stack!

How do I resolve this?

Thanks!
-J-

cgigate
28-03-2004, 08:32 PM
when you see "GSM Error" from bootloader.
it means you have bad radio stack upgrade, you need send to T-mobile to exhchange. so first thing you need send it back.
if they cannot help you, I could help you to repair it at a fee!

JasonLP
29-03-2004, 07:51 PM
when you see "GSM Error" from bootloader.
it means you have bad radio stack upgrade, you need send to T-mobile to exhchange. so first thing you need send it back.
if they cannot help you, I could help you to repair it at a fee!

Anybody else have any suggestions?

abbas
29-03-2004, 10:20 PM
old boy this is a problem that is solved here daily. Search for "radio stack" on this site. You are sure to find the solution

cgigate
29-03-2004, 10:41 PM
Famous "GSM error" after upgrading,
The best way is to send to your service provider to repair (exchange) , see All USA based sad Radio Stack (Failed) users (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=6066)

you may see some solutions in the forum, but most of them not working (not duplicable) , it could make XDA worse. some people lucky, most people not.... search keyword "GSM Error".