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lakshman_mn
10th July 2004, 06:30 AM
Hi folks,

Does anyone have any info about sites that are selling these? Sandisk website has been updated with this product in their product line.

Cheers!
Lakshman

VW_ELM
11th July 2004, 03:37 PM
In the Netherlands there is a shop, where you can put in pre-order. A few weeks ago, the owner told me it should be here this month. Maybe you can try it there.

LINK TO THE DUTCH WEBSHOP (http://www.deShop.net)

Good luck

ps, if you somehow be able to purchase one, can you please post your experience with this card? I'm thinking to buy one too... :lol: [/url]

pdagal
12th July 2004, 01:33 AM
I wrote a review of this card a few weeks ago, and it should appear at US retailers in the next week or two, I'm told. Not sure about overseas.

I've used it with my XDA II and it works well.

alcuin
12th July 2004, 04:49 AM
From what I've heard, you need Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition to support this card; does this mean you have SE for your XDA II?

-e

pdagal
12th July 2004, 07:11 AM
WM2003 SE is most definitely not required for the card.

I tested it in a variety of WM2003 PPCs and it worked fine. At the end of last year, SanDisk had the drivers working for SE but since have developed drivers for pre-SE versions of the OS.

There wouldn't be any point in releasing the card now if it only supported SE since the Dell X30 line are the only SE devices and two out of three come with integrated WiFi.

JRC
21st July 2004, 04:33 PM
I have this Sandisk SD Card with 256Mb and WiFi, she doesn't work on my SPV M1000/Qtek 2020 1.66 FRA. It's impossible to format the SD card and the WiFi don't work.

Do you have any idea ?

misterd
21st July 2004, 05:20 PM
i can't adress the 256 Storage.... and WIFI isn't working.
I did try different ROM's ....

Does anybody know how to solve this problem ???

hurrikane
21st July 2004, 06:38 PM
Well, I certainly cannot help you but I can confirm the problems.
I have a MDA 2 mysqlf and running with the 1.72 firmware.

For users who are considering about buying the card, this is what I send to the sandisk support:


After having installed the card according to your instructions and having done a soft-reset I finally plugged in the card.

I am always asked whether to format the storage card.
Even if it is formatted I am not able to access the card (as storage card).

Every time I select the AP Browser the device freezes.

Even when I turn off radio mode the green light blinks and wifi is not turned off!

Sometimes the device freezes if I go to any tab of the configuration utility.

Selecting SanDisk Wi-Fi from Settings->Connections I sometimes see the message "Card not found" but the card is definitely inserted and even blinks.

Finally I am therefore not able to use the card neither as storage nor as wifi-card.

JRC
21st July 2004, 07:18 PM
I the same problem exactly, can you have keep us informed of the response of the support?

JRC
21st July 2004, 07:33 PM
By using the drivers for PPC 2002 (It's strange !!!), there is a small improvement since the WiFi is finally detectable! But the 256 Storage doesn't work :cry:

hurrikane
22nd July 2004, 09:28 AM
Detectable - but not that useable it should be.

Please keep in mind it will definitely help if other users/owners of this card write to Sandisk. They won't care much about our issues if only a single solemn user describes it to them but it will slightly increase the pressure if every one contacts them!

(Up to now no answer from Sandisk.)

JRC
22nd July 2004, 02:24 PM
I also wrote to the technical support for this problem...

hurrikane
22nd July 2004, 04:48 PM
You can buy that card in Germany (they're also shipping into thw whole EU) at Reichelt: http://www.reichelt.de.

Back to the problems: Have you noticed it? At the top of PPC 2002 drivers you can read "SanDisk... SD Card" where using PPC 2003 drivers you have to wonder about "SanDisk... CF Card"!

Finally, PPC 2002 drivers do detect the card as written above but it takes an unlimited amount of time activating radio (unsuccessfully). And please notice your SDBusDriver.dll is overwritten with one which may not be suitable for the device (else Qtek would have it delivered, not SanDis).
(Short: The utility does not freeze but you can't use the card anyway.)

JRC
22nd July 2004, 09:31 PM
This SD isn't compatible with the Qtek !!!

SanDisk Response: (07/22/2004 11:58)
Unfortunately due to hardware limitations with your device the sd wifi 256mb will not work.

hurrikane
23rd July 2004, 09:10 AM
I am somewhat angry. They have explicitely listed the mda 2 in their compatibility charts!

SanDisk Response: (07/22/2004 10:29)
Unfortunately due to hardware limitation, the MDA II is not supported on the SD WIFI 256MB card. The single function one will work fine.

clemens4
23rd July 2004, 01:02 PM
Your Response:
...
http://www.sandisk.com/consumer/download/sdwifi/sdwifi_compatability_list.htm My device is a PDA of the 'xda II, mda II, i-mate (HTC)' type, as the mda II is the T-Mobile MDA2 (aka HTC Himalaya - look at www.xda-developers.com). So is there any chance of making the sandisk device work proper?

SanDisk Response:
Unfortunately, we are talking about 2 different devices.

The compatibility list you have mentioned is for SD WIFI CARD (no memory). The SD WIFI 256MB card is not compatible with your device.

Remark:
no memory = SDWSDB-000-E10, 256MB = SDWSDB-256-E10

hope that helps

hurrikane
24th July 2004, 10:40 AM
Thanks, Clemens.
Here are some more details I received:
The dual function card will not work in the XDA due to luck of Custom Bus driver in the unit.

Well then, does anyone know how to recover the overwritten files? (SDBus*.dll) After having previously made a hard-reset I have not been able to find them (with Resco File Explorer and by Active Sync) and now another hard-reset would not be that funny.
Or, can anyone provide the original files for the others?

DJB
24th July 2004, 08:12 PM
:(

SanDisk Response: (07/22/2004 10:22)
Unfortunately, due to hardware limitation with the MDA II the card will not work.

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Your Response: (07/23/2004 09:59)
Thanks for your answer, before I ordered the card, I've successfully tested the MDAII with your Wi-Fi SD Card (the one without memory) and it worked fine. The MDA II has the same hardware as the HTC Himalaya. Is it possible to do a software/firmware update, or is it a real "HARDWARE"-problem?

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SanDisk Response: (07/23/2004 03:05)
Due to lack of Custom Bus Driver in the unit the card will not work properly. More likely there will be need for a firmware update by the manufacturer of your unit.

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Your Response: (07/23/2004 03:07)
Thanks, Finaly I have to return the WiFi -Card to the reseller where i bought it, I also tried the newest firmware (version 1.72 HTC Himalaya) and a second PDA-device with no success.... How can I be absolutely sure that the sd-card is 100% OK and has no defect?

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SanDisk Response: (07/24/2004 08:52)
Are you refering to the SD CARD or SD WIFI 256MB CARD.

Okay or not the sd wifi 256mb card would not work in your unit.

SMW1
25th July 2004, 05:45 AM
Sorry not to come up with a solution, but you might take comfort from knowing that there are lots of posters who have had problems with their Sandisdk SD wifi card, me included. I'm at the end of my tether.

I am perservering with Sandisk tech support for now.

There are some useful posts if you search around with things to try to get it working, and some people seem to have had success.

SMW1

DJB
26th July 2004, 10:53 PM
SanDisk Response: (07/26/2004 07:44)
The following device are compatible:

IPAQ 1935 / 1945/ 2200 / 5555 / 5455 /
VIEWSONIC V36 /37
DELL AXIM X3 / X30
HITACHI G1000
AUDIOVOX PPC4100

The list may increase as we continue to test more devices.

Pope
27th July 2004, 11:00 AM
pdagal said:
I wrote a review of this card a few weeks ago, and it should appear at US retailers in the next week or two, I'm told. Not sure about overseas.

I've used it with my XDA II and it works well.

How did you get it working?

Gigaherx
28th July 2004, 01:06 PM
Now the salespeople have acknowledged the problem, too.

http://www.jacob-computer.de/Netzwerk_Wireless_LAN_Karten_&_Access_Points_Sandisk_Wi-Fi_Wireless_SD-Card_256MB_artnr_191139.html?SID=c5fd96b90ace9ca00 b448acbb5be6728

A little bit to late for me

khaled
2nd August 2004, 02:05 PM
I also wrote to the sandisk technical support for this problem, the response was

"Unfortunately, due to lack of custom bus driver in this unit, the 256mb sd wifi card will not work with the unit.We hope the manufacturer of your unit will correct this issue soon. For now you can use the sd wifi card (no memory)."

has any body contact the XDA 2 manufacturer of the XDA 2 or can some one write a custom bus driver for XDA 2 !!

sandisk said "For now you can use the sd wifi card (no memory)."

khaled
2nd August 2004, 02:08 PM
for now can i try to return the card or keep it untill some one find a fixed

khaled
2nd August 2004, 04:09 PM
Now the salespeople at expansys UK have acknowledged the problem.

http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=113744
that what they say
"Please note - this unit is not compatible with the O2 XDAII/i-Mate GSM/GPRS Pocket PC/Dopod 696/Qtek 2020."

i am returing my card today

JRC
10th August 2004, 03:37 PM
somebody have any news or response from Sandisk ?

Rudegar
10th August 2004, 03:44 PM
sandisk cant fix it it's HTC who need to fix it
unless sandisk are to ship special HTC drivers which include a custom bus
driver for the HTC Himalaya device
if such a thing can be made in software at all without hardware changes

basile
10th August 2004, 08:56 PM
maybe HTC should start to get their priorities right :?

georkal
25th August 2004, 06:15 PM
Has anyone tried to contact HTC to request drivers?

isidar
25th August 2004, 09:17 PM
Hi to all,

I also justo bought a Sandisk 256 in USA las week, befor this I used a "normal" Sandisk SD - Card with also the Socket driver installed and it worked fine.
I was very disapointed about the difficoulty at installing the new driver (I did not know it was a common problem)
Since I came home an DEINSTALLED all driver with the program SK-Tools, and reinstalled the original Sandisk driver.

Since then at least the wifi part of the card is working very good, fast connecting and without any problem. :shock:

Of course the 256 Mb are there ... and cannot be used ...

I probably will switch to the competence and buy a Socket Sd Card ... and f :twisted: ck Sandisk !!!

ciao from Spain
Isidar

Panja
2nd September 2004, 02:50 PM
Ofcourse I needed to check here before I bought the damn card :(

I have the card mentioned in the thread and ofcourse it's not working for me...

danielalvers
17th September 2004, 07:09 AM
For what it is worth I sent an email to O2 Asia to see if there was any solution. This is what I got in response.

Thank you for choosing O2!
With regard to your query below, we have receive some feedback that Sandisk dual function 256mb + wifi SDIO card is not able to be supported in XdaII due to a lack of custom driver.

We would like to assure you that O2 is always committed to providing quality service to all our customers. we have already highlighted this feedback to the relevant department for further response. Our O2 Asia engineers are working round the clock to come up with a resolution addressing to this issue. Up to this point of time, there isn't a work-around way to this issue yet.

Perhaps at some point SanDisk or O2 will release either a patch or a drive which supports the XDA.

hurrikane
17th September 2004, 06:01 PM
I am not going to count on them.
The same reply, in German of course, has been sent to me by T-mobile after having reported the SMS-bug (the device does only store a limited amount of SMS, around 9 to 15 if you have luck) - they have not fixed this bug yet.

(I returned my card a few days after the first posts here.)

scobie27
24th September 2004, 02:28 PM
Hi to all,

I also justo bought a Sandisk 256 in USA las week, befor this I used a "normal" Sandisk SD - Card with also the Socket driver installed and it worked fine.
I was very disapointed about the difficoulty at installing the new driver (I did not know it was a common problem)
Since I came home an DEINSTALLED all driver with the program SK-Tools, and reinstalled the original Sandisk driver.

Since then at least the wifi part of the card is working very good, fast connecting and without any problem. :shock:

Of course the 256 Mb are there ... and cannot be used ...

I probably will switch to the competence and buy a Socket Sd Card ... and f :twisted: ck Sandisk !!!

ciao from Spain
Isidar

Hi Isidar

I have the same ROM & radio as you, but haven't been able to get either the memory or the WiFi part of my card to work... could you tell me which drivers you used to get WiFi running? This would be better than nothing!! :)

Thanks

scobie27

henlee0638
3rd October 2004, 08:32 PM
WAIT TILL HAVE A COMBO DRIVER , SD I/O WITH COMBO DRIVER

R.D.L.
3rd October 2004, 09:16 PM
Off course i got curious and bought the damn thing myself. Don't work though. Stupid piece of sh*t! :evil: Will wait till someone can get around this error.
When installing the Wifi SD 256 MB prog i get the message:

would you like to replace the existing file
"\Windows\SDBusDriver.dll" modified on 03/15/2004 06:22

with this one?
modified on 02/17/2004 04:58

When I choose No, it says the file must be copied for the application to work correctly. Then I press cancel and the entire program doesnt install. So maybe we can just get a combo driver (not from Sandisk) and copy that over the original one.
Tried to find the original file on Qtek rom in \windows\ but couldnt find it. Maybe its hidden.

Anywayz i uploaded the file SDBusdriver.cab which contains the newer bus driver. Maybe you can use it. C ya.

OZK
29th January 2005, 03:30 PM
I get the same result as has been mentioned earlier in the forum:

The program was not removed becasue these files are in use or are read only:

\Windows\SDBusDriver.dll
\Windows\SDMemory.dll

Can anyone please help. No one resopnded to the guy before me who posted the same request.

OZK
29th January 2005, 03:42 PM
Thank you R.D.L. for you post. Where did you get the SDBusDriver file from?

I tried to install it but it was unable to replace the old files that were added by the initial SanDisk installation.

I'm going to return my SanGarbage cards to Amazon and will lose out on the cost of shipping. What I want now is not to see the company's name on omy "remove programs" screen. It looks like I'm going to be stuck seeing the line " SanDisk Combo Bus Driver" for ever.

Rudegar
29th January 2005, 03:54 PM
everything in the remove programs can be removing using the regeditor

Joschkopf
5th March 2005, 01:37 PM
@OZK

Can you tell me where you got this driver file from? If you have problems to replace a file which is in rom / readonly / hidden, you can rename this file and after a warm reboot the program should be able to install.

I already tought about trying to get the necessary driver files from the magican (where the card works fine). I think the files are:

- SDBusDriver.dll
- HSDCard.dll

Maybe anyone with the magican could post these files here?

statix
21st March 2005, 09:19 PM
has anyone managed to get one of these to work yet?

Squuiid
29th March 2005, 07:19 PM
Nope. Got one of these today after being sent the wrong one by ebuyer.com!
No way will it work on my Himalaya with 2.02 WM2003SE
Have tried both socket and sandisk's drivers.
:evil:

Squuiid
30th March 2005, 12:52 PM
I get the same result as has been mentioned earlier in the forum:

The program was not removed becasue these files are in use or are read only:

\Windows\SDBusDriver.dll
\Windows\SDMemory.dll

Can anyone please help. No one resopnded to the guy before me who posted the same request.

Use RESCO explorer, find the files and rename them. (will error, but ignore, files will be renamed. Then soft reset. Then install driver again over the top and DO NOT soft reset after. Go into windows folder and delete both files.
Done!

tesking
22nd August 2005, 08:23 PM
Nope. Got one of these today after being sent the wrong one by ebuyer.com!
No way will it work on my Himalaya with 2.02 WM2003SE
Have tried both socket and sandisk's drivers.
:evil:

Hello! I have a Qtek 2020 (MDA II) with installed the unofficial WM2003SE ROM 2.06.00WWE (06/14/04), Radio Version 1.18.00, Protocol Version 1337.38, ExtROM version 1.10.124 WWE. In Remove programs I have found "Socket WLAN SDIO V1 Driver"
With all these updates, the Combo Card from Sandisk will work?

Thank you!

DON2003
23rd August 2005, 04:04 AM
the Sandisk 256+wifi combo card wont work with Himalaya

it will work with Magician only