Siemens SX-56 Dead Dead Dead!

[mtapal]

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ok...I'm really new to all this so please show a little patience towards me!

I was trying to load the XDA-developers-SER-v12 on my phone and just when it started with the progress bar moving at the top of the PPC screen, when it said "Do not Remove Device..." I accidently lifted the phone out of the cradle as dumb as I am...! After that I tried to hard start it by shoving a pin on the hole in the right side under the battery icon with the cross (hard-reset) and got the Bootloader 5.17 screen with the three colors and GSM (OK) there when I pressed the soft-reset and power buttons simultaneously.

But since I was the idiot and could not understand what was going on, as I was not in this forum nor even behind a computer, I reset it again and again a couple of more times. Now present situation; I have the same "Do not Remove..." screen everytime I do a hard or soft reset even if I keep the power on/off button pressed alongwith pressing the hot or cold boot buttons on the left and right corners respectively. In fact the screen has gotten badly distorted but the same "Do not Remove..." comes up in the totally distorted state on the screen and the Bootloader or the colors, nothing comes up anymore.

When I try to put the phone on the charger, the light goes orange just as if it is charging, in fact, after an hour or so, just as it normally would in the correct phone state, it turns green.

Is my phone toast or can I still do something about it?

Munz.

[interestingfellow]

I'm no expert, but it seems to me that if there is a complication with the software when loading, one should try using the sd method of rom flashign. Cook or dl a rom, use XDA tools to load it to an SD, put the SD into the device, and then use the bootloader to load off of SD. Other than that, I know little to nothing.

Good luck!

[LumpiStefan]

Search in the forum after SD Card flashing for the Wallaby.
This would fix your device...

HTH

Stefan

[mtapal]

You guys are good and quick....but!!! As I mentioned, I can't even see the Bootloader even after a reset and power button combo...nothing comes up or happens...the screen just blinks and then goes blank...should I open it up and disconnect the battery or something...? Right now I am just seeing the screen saying "Do not Remove...." and that even in a totally distorted form....

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[cruisin-thru]

Try pushing a pin in the hard reset, push once only, leave it overnight, I think that is good as removing battery as it disconnects the connection between battery and mainboard as fas as I know. Next morning push once with oin again, you never know your luck. Its weird that the bootloader should be affected however the good thing is that your gsm seems ok and the xda is charging.

[mtapal]

Thanks for the reply...I have just pushed the pin and am leaving the XDA in that state for the whole day...hope it revives back...its presently just giving me a garbled screen and nothing else...even when I press the power and hard reset together, it comes back to the garbled screen and nothing else...I'll take your advice and not touch it after the above for the day and let you know what happens, if there is any other advice I would highly appreciate it...

[ed207_us]

You mentioned that your bootloader seems to be screwed up. Download the full version of XDA tools WITH the bootloader and Programme A. Grab yourself a new ROM of your choosing, lumpistefan's kitchen, etc. Then use the XDA tools to write the bootloader and the rom to your SD card. After that hard booting the device with the SD card installed should ask you if you want to flash the device.

I noticed that if you have XDA tools without the bootloader file it will write the rom to your SD and you will NOT be able to get to the flash your device screen.

This is the only way to do it since your device will not boot to a rom. Upgrades from manufactures and roms prepared with Programme A all require MS Active Synch AND a good working connection.

If you have a SD card prepared with the ROM and the bootloader the right way, it should almost be foolproof from what I understand.

Hope this helps, I was in much the same situation

[mtapal]

Yups! I tried to boot it from an SD Card, its not exactly an SD Card but an MMC Card (128MB). It still comes up to the same garbled screen which is more garbled than ever before! Does not ask me for anything; or even confirms anything...It does not do anything else besides the screen even after a soft reset/hard reset or a combo hard/soft power button reset.

I'm really totally stuck...Any ideas will be much appreciated!

Thanks.

[cgigate]

Your XDA is completely dead; you screwed OS ROM and bootloader.
Forget SD or Details method, it won't work for you!

[mtapal]

Can you help me fix it please? What do I need to do?

[ed207_us]

The more experienced members of this forum can correct me on this, but I have been under the impression that the SD method of flashing does not require an intact OS ROM or bootloader on the device.

If you created the SD correctly, it should contain its own bootloader. Just putting it in the unit and then reseting it should come up with the screen to flash the device.

Did you create the SD card with XDAtools? Did you also have the bootloader file in the /bin directory when you did it?

If a properly created SD "flash" card cannot fix your problem, then you really might have no choice to but to get it professionally repaired where the remove the chips themselves and replace them.

I think you may even be in luck. www.pocketpctechs.com probably can do this and they are located in Fountain Valley, CA about 4 hours away from you. They can also put in bigger memory and batteries at the same time at a discount if you are getting it repaired

[mtapal]

Thank you so much for the reply...I will try it once more; although, yes I have tried the same thing before and made the MMC Card through the XDATools, but never hurts to try again...I'll double check on the bootloader again too this time...

If you can, please send me the contact information for the people who fix the XDA's professionally as you mentioned in the USA somewhere near me preferably, I am in San Jose, CA...I'll try to contact them also...

Best Regards.

[ed207_us]

Their website is www.pocketpctechs.com.

You can find all the contact information right there. As far as I know fountain valley is about 4-5 hours away from San Jose.

[RichardRosenberger]

I have a XDA I here, which has a similar problem:
It boots with the welcome to T-Mobile screen, and
it shows at the bottom of the screen 4.01.16 after a while R4.06 and after a while G32S54. The machine locks-up and does not respond to anything except the touch screen. If i tap the screen, the backlight turns on, and a
rotating 'wait' icon appears. That's it. I am not able to put it in Bootloader mode by pressing power - > reset, so i cannot reflash the unit using SD.

I guess the former user has tried to reflash the unit, and had put the OS overwriting the bootloader, OTOH, the unit seems to run *some* code, since it responds to taps on the screen, by turning on the backlight.

Any guru have any clue on this one? I could not find anything in the forums, while the forums are VERY helpful in the past.

GreetingZ,

Richard

[ed207_us]

<<I am not able to put it in Bootloader mode by pressing power - > reset, so i cannot reflash the unit using SD>>

I really do not understand that. I am not a Guru by any means, and I hope one does make a comment on this.

As far as a I can tell by my own experiences, you do not need to put it in Bootloader mode by presseing power-reset. That is totally unneccessary to flash the unit. In fact, in Bootloader mode I have never found any command or method to flash the unit from the sd card. Only methods to backup the rom to the sd card. So I am really really confused to hear you guys say that.

I have successfully flashed XDA's with 2 methods. Programme A by which the XDA is connected to Active Synch 3.7 and by an SD card created by XDAtools.

Programme A only seems to work when there are NO problems at all and you just want to upgrade or try something else.

The SD card method seems to be the choice for repair.

Creating the SD card with XDAtools *WITH* the bootloader file in the /bin directory does work. The SD card I created with this method DID not, i repeat, DID not need the Bootloader (power-reset). It only needed to be powered on with the SD Card in the XDA.

If there are any Gurus moderating this post, I would sincerely appreciate having this cleared up :)

[RichardRosenberger]

<<I am not able to put it in Bootloader mode by pressing power - > reset, so i cannot reflash the unit using SD>>

I really do not understand that. I am not a Guru by any means, and I hope one does make a comment on this.

I also have a good working unit, and testing my SD card, created with XDARIT in this unit tells me i need to press power -> reset to be able to
flash the unit. if i do'nt hold the power button, the unit boots normally.

As far as a I can tell by my own experiences, you do not need to put it in Bootloader mode by presseing power-reset. That is totally unneccessary to flash the unit. In fact, in Bootloader mode I have never found any command or method to flash the unit from the sd card.


It is there. 'press action to download ROM, or press record to exit'
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Only methods to backup the rom to the sd card. So I am really really confused to hear you guys say that.

I have successfully flashed XDA's with 2 methods. Programme A by which the XDA is connected to Active Synch 3.7 and by an SD card created by XDAtools.

I cannot connect the unit to activesync.
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Programme A only seems to work when there are NO problems at all and you just want to upgrade or try something else.

The SD card method seems to be the choice for repair.

Creating the SD card with XDAtools *WITH* the bootloader file in the /bin directory does work. The SD card I created with this method DID not, i repeat, DID not need the Bootloader (power-reset). It only needed to be powered on with the SD Card in the XDA.

I don' know the contents of the SD, since i created it a long time ago, but i really would appreciate is if you can email me a image of yours. Hope you are right and i can use the bootloader on your card to start this unit.
email size is no problem upto 100Mb
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If there are any Gurus moderating this post, I would sincerely appreciate having this cleared up :)

[ed207_us]

<<ed207_us wrote:

As far as a I can tell by my own experiences, you do not need to put it in Bootloader mode by presseing power-reset. That is totally unneccessary to flash the unit. In fact, in Bootloader mode I have never found any command or method to flash the unit from the sd card. >>

<<<RichardRosenberger wrote:

It is there. 'press action to download ROM, or press record to exit' >>>

It is only there when you have the SD card in the device, otherwise you cannot find it by moving around through the different menus.

XDAArit is completely outdated. You need to get their new tool.

XDATools can be downloaded from the website here. The best thread that talks about the tool is:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=2189&highlight=xdatools

The exact link to get the tool and all the supporting files, including the bootloader is:

http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDAtools-Jeff.exe

When you install this version of XDAtools you will find a directory called binaries. Under it there should be a file called "bootloader_v5_15.nb0"

Use the tool to create your SD card with a .nb1 file of your choice. After that it should only be a matter of powering on the device with the SD card inside the unit.

[Arslan81]

I have 2 XDAs. 1 good en 1 have problem with bootloader and rom.

I can't access Wallaby bootloader en the OS don't start.

I backup it from good XDA in the bootloader (ce+Boot) and i pushed my SD in the XDA where problems are..

He don't work. How can I fix my problem.. :cry: :cry: :cry:

Please Help...

[ed207_us]

I am not aware of what the (ce+boot) actually creates on the SD card. If that is the exact ROM that you want, I would suggest downloading the full version of XDA tools, and I think you can use it to copy the ROM from the SD card to a .nb1 file on your computer. Then follow the instructions I have already posted to make the working SD card that will flash the XDA.

When it comes to the SD card, the only time I have ever been successfull is when creating it with XDAtools with a .nb1 file and the bootloader .nb0 file inside the binaries directory.

That's it. I have never been able to do it any other way. Programme A does not count since it requires an active and working OS and connection to the PC and most people that are in trouble don't have that.