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ahmednaseer
3rd October 2004, 11:37 AM
Hi Guys!
Whenever I remove the battery of my XDA2, it keeps on hard resetting the phone. No matter how quick I replace my battery.
Noticed this problem only a week back. When I noticed this 1st I did it 2nd time also and replaced battery in 3 seconds but samething happened. Lost all the data, starting from the scratch and installs OS.
Is this something serious or is there anything that I can do to solve this problem? Can anyone help?
gadjet
3rd October 2004, 11:46 AM
As the memory is RAM I guess this is normal, you should back up yor device with ActiveSync before removing your battery.
I use Sprite Backup as it is quicker, and it stores all the data to your SD card so you don't need a PC to restore your device.
Hope this helps you. :)
SteveD
3rd October 2004, 12:40 PM
As the memory is RAM I guess this is normal, you should back up yor device with ActiveSync before removing your battery.
I use Sprite Backup as it is quicker, and it stores all the data to your SD card so you don't need a PC to restore your device.
Hope this helps you. :)
Your advice about using Sprite Backup is goof, but IT IS NOT NORMAL for the XDA II to hard reset whenever the battery is changed. The XDA II contains a backup battery precisely to be able to maintain the data while the battery is changed.
GoldenSands
3rd October 2004, 12:45 PM
Is this something serious or is there anything that I can do to solve this problem? Can anyone help?
Well, in my imate, some times I remove the battery to replace the SIM card, hard reset never happens! some times I keep the battery out for 15 minutes or 20 minutes, and still; the imate is normal and hard reset does not take place.
I'm not sure if your case is due to a software or a hardware problem. Does your back-up battery show "full" in the Power Setting?
Loony
3rd October 2004, 12:57 PM
Quoting the obvious.....!!!
You probbably have a problem with your Backup Battery..
I assume when you check "Start menu/settings/system/power"
that the backup battery shows fully charged........??
Otherwise if still under guarantee.... get it checked out... pronto...!!!
8)
ahmednaseer
3rd October 2004, 01:21 PM
My backup battery looks OK. At least it shows "battery power remaining 100%" which is ok I assume.
Removing battery even frequently didn't lose any of my data earlier.
ahmednaseer
3rd October 2004, 01:21 PM
Thanks guys!
My backup battery looks OK. At least it shows "battery power remaining 100%" which is ok I assume.
Removing battery even frequently didn't lose any of my data earlier.
yuhaohuang
31st October 2004, 11:51 AM
ermm .. was this problem ever solved ???
cos mine seems to suffer from the same problem now.
Clicking the red switch at the batter should have switched the power to backup mode ... it seems to do that alright, but after switching the power back to battery, the memory is all gone.
adbradwell
31st October 2004, 03:40 PM
ermm .. was this problem ever solved ???
cos mine seems to suffer from the same problem now.
Clicking the red switch at the batter should have switched the power to backup mode ... it seems to do that alright, but after switching the power back to battery, the memory is all gone.
I have the same problem. but I'd tried to open up my device and compare with others. and the problem is with the red switch button. It should be switching the button on the board so when U switch the red button down it suppose to switch the device from the main batt to backup batt. But mine doesn't. the red button kindda miss the board switch little bit to the left. so I use the soldiering iron to bent it little bit to the right. And the problem solved.
sorry about my english....:)
Rudegar
31st October 2004, 10:58 PM
i've heard alot of people report this problem also when changing sim
some say that putting the phone in fligth mode helps
but unless you switch between sims or have more then 1 batt you never have to take it out so i've never had the issue
yuhaohuang
1st November 2004, 12:16 AM
hmm ... will try flight mode .. but backup first .. :)
The soldering things is interesting. But opening up the unit voids the warranty which mine is still in.
mm .. a question I'd like to ask tho ... since mine was O2 originally and is now on a imate firmware, that immediately discards warranty does it ?
Marc MD
8th December 2004, 05:41 AM
this problem has never been solved... best bet is to use Sprite Backup... i think this is about hardware problems in the XDA2 so... its either backup or send it back to the manufacturer..
pochreyes
8th December 2004, 06:02 AM
I experienced this a-couple of times already. That’s why I avoid removing my unit's battery. I also got a backpack for more juice capacity. I hope this problem gets solved.
I use sprite backup as a quick way of reinstalling everything if ever the inevitable happens and then do a fresh install when I have time.
Poch
semis0nic
8th December 2004, 09:00 AM
Ok guys...i had this experience every time i changed my sim. but i avoided it the last time i took the batt off. If youll notice, the battery cover is METAL, which is having a "contact " on the upper left terminal of the XDA which "drained " all power ( back-up batt as well ).
To prevent this :arrow: make sure your xda metal back cover doesnt physically contact with the said terminal when inserting it back.
cheers!
yuhaohuang
8th December 2004, 09:07 AM
i restored to a backup a couple of weeks bk, but i donno why, after restoring, i wasnt able to receive sms. I mean ... u could c that an sms is received, the screen will light up but no sms icon will appear and nothing in the mail box either.
Anyway, i gave up and decided to jus do a hardreset and fresh install of everything.
The interesting thing is that straight after i hardresetted, i decided to take the batt out and c wot happens and to my suprise, it didnt hard reset. I repeated for a couple of times and made sure that i left the batt out for a couple of min and it never hardresetted again.
I jus came to a conclusion that i just havent taken the batt out and switching the backup battery switch for too long.
semis0nic
8th December 2004, 09:12 AM
http://pdamobiz.com/forum/uploads/c/xdaii/xdaiihr2.jpg
...hmmmm.....this is also discussed in this forum..http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=48&PN=4
:wink:
duxz
8th December 2004, 09:31 AM
had the same problems about hard reset during the process of changing batteries....... i was told to turn on the flight mode first then do the batt change.... so far after tat, i dont face any more problems.
yuhaohuang
8th December 2004, 02:50 PM
mm ... its been a while ago, but i dont remember ever placing the cover back while the battery is out.
I was changing the sim so i would've place the batt back straight after i changed the sim.
btw though, the back cover doesnt feel metallic. But more like plastic, jus coated with silver paint or something. I'll do a conductivity test on it tomoro ...
Marc MD
15th December 2004, 08:09 AM
i personally dont agree that this is because of the back cover being metallic... coz u can always replace the sim or battery without putting back yet the back cover... as a matter of fact once you put the battery back the unit will automatically turn on right? and thats before you get to put the back cover back again.. so it doesnt really affect the connectors... :P
semis0nic
16th December 2004, 04:07 AM
i personally dont agree that this is because of the back cover being metallic... coz u can always replace the sim or battery without putting back yet the back cover... as a matter of fact once you put the battery back the unit will automatically turn on right? and thats before you get to put the back cover back again.. so it doesnt really affect the connectors... :P
in my case, yes.. :wink:
i miss the red switch : its enables the back up battery once you pulled it down. make sure it contacts properly. right now, no hard resets for me.
Its cool to be precautious... :lol:
Marc MD
16th December 2004, 07:54 AM
i think i see what youre aiming at... its not about the metal back cover... you must be careful of making contact with the connectors near the sim compartment... most people will neglect these connectors and might actually discharge the backup battery with the mere conductivity of our own hands by accidentaly touching these said connectors...
FDPM
16th December 2004, 01:17 PM
Could it be a problem related to the rom version?
I have rom 1.72 on an imate and I do not have the problem.
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