Bluetooth patch from club-imate!!!!! finally is here!!!!!

[ilvanni]

Hi to all!!!!!
finally patch are available!!!
I haven't yet tried, but tomorrow i will post my impression!

Ciao, ilVanni.

[ilvanni]

argh!!!
the patch was removed from website!!!! The support told me that are only a website test...

[ilvanni]

... it's back....
same file to download.

Specification of fix:
"i-mate™ is aware of the problems being experienced with the i-mate™ PDA2k Bluetooth. We are delivering a compete fix in two stages. The first patch increases the scan time of the i-mate™ PDA2k when searching for other nearby Bluetooth devices, thus improving other devices detectability. It should be used by customers regularly bonding with other distant devices. If the required devices are not identified after this extended period, pressing the scan again button will repeat the search. The second part of the fix will be released shortly and will improve the signal quality when using audio headsets. "

[XzaniX]

Great Thanks... I'm waiting for this patch!!!! The second one, I mean....

[Anonymous]

Now all we need is the A2DP profile supported and I will really start loving my MDAIII... I just got my B-Speech headset yesterday... didn't have much time to play with it yet though... I'd really like to get these HP bluetooth headphones too...

Treo

[Nighthawk]

Yahoo!

[nvgear]

but these 2 patches doesnt address the memory error message where the bluetooth fails to turn on... or am i missing something?

[Anonymous]

It does not address the device turning itself on all the time either. It is a joke. They are not fixing the things that are really broken.

[Anonymous]

yup i think they dont know how to fix it! ahhhhhhh refund refund! how can they even release the blueangel with such a flaw, how can their engineer miss that , did they not use their own creation for more than 15 minutes, they would hav saw the error msg

[firebird2k]

May not be IMate's fault...... of course they could have probably stuck with the lousy MS BT Stack.. might be less problems.. but anyway.. Its the OS..Remember the 32 process limitation that's still there? well. there is also a limitation on driver memroy.. I found this link that might help..

http://www.pocketfms.com/2-knownissues.htm

"The Bluetooth Radio failed to turn ON due to Insufficient driver memory available. Especially in PocketPC 2003 the Bluetooth Manager has been equipped with a lot of extra options like File Transfer, Audio Gateway and so on. If you go to Bluetooth settings and disable all services except for the Bluetooth serial port, a lot more driver memory will be available. Furthermore it's best to turn the Bluetooth radio on (and sometimes to connect to the GPS, configuration depending) prior to starting PocketFMS."

Doesn't fix the problem.. but its probably the same problem across the board for a number of devices out there..

Do a Search on Google for pocketpc "driver memory" .. you'll notice we're not alone... Then check the newsgroups.. the xda IIs has the same issue : http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&threadm=uOPkoisxEHA.2540%40TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dpocketpc%2B%2522driver%2Bmemory%2522% 26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26scoring%3Dd

[nvgear]

"disable all services except for the Bluetooth serial port, a lot more driver memory will be available"


THAT IS NOT TRUE, I tried to disable EVERYTHING and ONLY headset profile left and it still gives the error just as often. Sucks..... SUCKS...

[firebird2k]

umm.. U DON'T HAVE TO YELL AT PEOPLE.. All I was trying to do was pass along any information that might help the situation.... Also, make note that IMate is the only device to experience these issues.. HP and Ipaqs have the same issues....

I for one have not had any major problems with the bluetooth driver(knock on wood). I turn it on and off a lot and only rarely do I see the driver memory issue. However, I do see it more often when I turn on/off the WLAN driver for wireless access. I also tend to use GPRS a lot and have not had issues with the bluetooth with GPRS. I also use a bluetooth GPS unit... I have it bonded to an Sony Bluetooth HB-35 headset as well.

[nvgear]

lol sorry, it wasnt yelling, i was actually just making main points bold... we are all suffering from this issue it's time for them to fix it.

[firebird2k]

Complaining to Carrier Devices will help a little...but the key point here is that this goes beyond them.. I think it has more to do with Microsoft and Broadcom(they bought widcomm). Microsoft and their stupid limitations on the pocketpc operating system and Broadcom committing to enhancing their widcomm drivers so as to not use heaping loads of memory..

I agree it needs to get fixed.. however, these fixes will take time and sometimes might take months to fix as you can see from all the other issues revolving around the Ipaqs...

[xda-rocks]

I've got the same problems with the T-Mobile MDAIII - not enought driver memory, turns itself on, licence has expired, rebonding. These things really should have been sorted before now, considering that for the last twelve months we've all put up with similar problems on the XDAII.

[firebird2k]

This should fix the license expiry for the Imate. I received it via email from their tech support.. according to their tech support.. you can choose any of the key addresses...They sent it to me even though I never received the license expiry issue.

As for constantly turning on.. read someone on Howardforums on a possible workaround -> http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=5211773ec7fa981de40204e0c3d50658&threadid=495366&perpage=15&pagenumber=2

[nvgear]

Firebird, forgive me if this seems stupid, but what do i do with the file you posted after unziping it? Do i run it on my pda once or what....???? have no idea... THANKS. :shock:

[firebird2k]

Don't know if it works on an XDAIII.. but copy both files to the IMate PDA2k and run the executable.. then choose any address to update it.. I just chose each and every address and updated all of them..

[nvgear]

and this will fix the license expired error msg on the pda2k ???

[firebird2k]

That is what its supposed to do. still wont' fix the driver memory issue.... I haevn't seen the license expiry issue ever since i applied the patch..

[Israeli XDA 3]

Hi Firebird
I installed the patch on my MDA3 but now I can not pair it with my Motorola HS810.
It does pair with the Ericsson HBH-20 with no problem.
How can I erase/turn back the BT setting to the original BT setup.
Thanks.

[firebird2k]

Sorry :( .. but don't know how to revert back except a hard reset..I don't have a motorola to test with.. but after the patch I paired with my BT GPS unit and HB-35 without any issues..

[Anonymous]

Hmmmm... can we believe it? ...hehe

http://pocketpcdubai.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=553609464&f=695604964&m=514106825&r=458104135#458104135

[nvgear]

believe what? alot of things were said in that post.

[Anonymous]

If you even bothered to read the thread -> Bluetooth 20 drivers to be released by Carrier Devices next week for the PDA2k...

[Nighthawk]

If you even bothered to read the thread -> Bluetooth 20 drivers to be released by Carrier Devices next week for the PDA2k...

The thread doesn't say this, it says a bluetooth patch is going to be released. It also doesn't say an upgrade to 2.0, but a patch (infering the patch everyone is waiting for).

[Anonymous]

"From what I understood, Carier Devices could only provide a Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR patch to their current OS to take advantage of this new norm when it is made available. As it is backwards compatible, you will still be able to use your current Bluetooth-enabled accessories and enjoy the added features!
No more cash required. By the way, I just spoke with Carier Devices Helpdesk, Mike, who told me that highly-expected Bluetooth correction patch will be posted next week after Eid on their Web site.
Getting closer..."

CD "could only provide a Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR patch to their current OS"

So hopefully they provide it..

[gratefuled]

Does the Bluetooth Patch change any of the settings or menus on the BT Manager or BT Settings?
Club i-mate states you can scan again to getting pairing. I have upgraded, but I don't see anything that inidcates scan again. Perhaps I'm taking this language to literal.

[nvgear]

you mean 2.0 ???!?!?!?! That would be cool.

[Treo]

Hi,

is it me, or does a faster bluetooth standard also need different hardware? I mean, USB 2.0 needed a different bus design... anybody on this?

Treo

[Nighthawk]

"From what I understood, Carier Devices could only provide a Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR patch to their current OS to take advantage of this new norm when it is made available. As it is backwards compatible, you will still be able to use your current Bluetooth-enabled accessories and enjoy the added features!
No more cash required. By the way, I just spoke with Carier Devices Helpdesk, Mike, who told me that highly-expected Bluetooth correction patch will be posted next week after Eid on their Web site.
Getting closer..."

CD "could only provide a Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR patch to their current OS"

So hopefully they provide it..

Your quote is correct, but I believe what you think it says is incorrect. Notice he said "the highly-expected Bluetooth correction", never has a v2.0 patch been expected. It was only just released (ratified), do you really believe CD would do that. Their latest unit (Jam) only has Bluetooth 1.2.

I wish you were right, but I don't think so.

[whtrbt7]

For Bluetooth v2.0 you need software (the stack) and also hardware. I've been talking with one of the stack makers and from what I've gathered, the 2.0 standard needs new chips for the standard to work correctly. Broadcom has the older chips that support 1.1 and now 1.2. They also have some new chips that do 2.0 now and have a faster base bus. The faster bus is needed for EDR since EDR is not only compression/encryption but also a base speed boost. I don't think anyone will be releasing the 2.0 stacks yet since 1.2 stacks still aren't available. It all depends on which chip you are using for Bluetooth.

[Anonymous]

I have an MDAIII and would like to test the patch, please post it on the forum...thanks in advance. -Justin

[Montoi132]

Sorry for the double post but wanted you all to know it was a member that posted. I have flashed my MDAIII with the PDA2K rom but do not have access to the bluetooth patch. I would like to try this because the current bluetooth build is driving me crazy. Thanks guys. -Justin

[g5virus]

I have a XDA IIs with widcomm Bluttooth stack v1.0.0 build 1900. Tried to upgrade to new 1.5 stack by copying all the new files into Window directory. After soft reset, the bluetooth stack is updated but my BT headset can't be used anymore. All phone calls can't be diverted to BT headset although the headset itself can be connected without problem. Do I need any registry hack for the new version?

[nvgear]

Sorry for the double post but wanted you all to know it was a member that posted. I have flashed my MDAIII with the PDA2K rom but do not have access to the bluetooth patch. I would like to try this because the current bluetooth build is driving me crazy. Thanks guys. -Justin
Don't worry you are not missing anything, the 'new' bluetooth patch doesnt do ANYTHING at all, it doenst solve any problems, those people at i-mate are idiots. THe new patch just "extends the discovery time of the bluetooth when finding new devices". As if we need that, i pair with all my devices just fine.

[Nighthawk]

Don't worry you are not missing anything, the 'new' bluetooth patch doesnt do ANYTHING at all, it doenst solve any problems, those people at i-mate are idiots. THe new patch just "extends the discovery time of the bluetooth when finding new devices". As if we need that, i pair with all my devices just fine.

That's why we are waiting for the 2nd part of the patch, they said the released part was only part 1 of 2.

[nvgear]

If you read the description for part 2 of the patch, it doesnt do much either, it does not address the driver memory issue and license expired error messege.

[miguelromerom]

when service tecnical repair bt :(

[markmak888]

Who can help me to download the i-Mate patch? I want to install this patch in O2XDAIIs. Thanks!!!!!

http://www.clubimate.com/index.asp?PageAction=DEVICE_PDA2K_BT

My email address is -- Received -- Thanks for sender!!!!


:lol:

[markmak888]

I applied the BTsearchTime.sa in the O2 XDA IIs. It's not any different compared with before.

I cannot still use my NEC c616 3G mobile phone for high speed data access.... :cry: :cry: :cry:

But I can use the NEC c616 3G mobile phone in the O2 XDA II :? :?

New phone is poor than Old phone :twisted:

[gratefuled]

Exactly the PDA2K is a downgrade.
Bt no better, actually worse in many ways.
Processor speed slower with actual use, regardless if they are both 400 mhz.
Device is lest stable than it's predessor.
And a few other things.

[Nighthawk]

If you read the description for part 2 of the patch, it doesnt do much either, it does not address the driver memory issue and license expired error messege.

i-mate™ is aware of the problems being experienced with the i-mate™ PDA2k Bluetooth. We are delivering a compete fix in two stages. The first patch increases the scan time of the i-mate™ PDA2k when searching for other nearby Bluetooth devices, thus improving other devices detectability. It should be used by customers regularly bonding with other distant devices. If the required devices are not identified after this extended period, pressing the scan again button will repeat the search. The second part of the fix will be released shortly and will improve the signal quality when using audio headsets.

No, it doesn't mention those specific issues. But as with any patch it may include more than mentioned. This is the reason I mentioned waiting to see what part 2 fixed.

[markmak888]

I tried to use the following link information to solve some bluetooth problem.

http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/1031857.html (found in xda-developers.com)

I can use my O2 XDA IIs with my NEC c616 3G mobile phone. :lol:

I can get the download speed in 300kbps or above using my 3G phone:twisted:

BUT......Maybe the un-official to copy the DLL, This is NOT stable when download a large file > 1MB. :cry:

Now, I want to HTC to make a good bluetooth program to fix.
:twisted: The O2 XDA II is better than O2 XDA IIs :twisted:

[Asukal]

Just report.

BTsearchTime[1].sa=it just conatins Registry file as follows

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Widcomm\BtConfig\Gener al]
"InquiryDuration"=dword:00000019

and the other patches conatian like follows
(not for Blue Angel but for Himalaya)

[BTHTools1012]

BTHSerial.dll
BTHTools.dll
(setup dialog for Virtual serial com V1.012)


[BTHTools1100]

BTHDev.dll
BTHSerial.dll
BTHTools.dll
(setup dialog for Virtual serial com V1.1.0.0)
BTHToday.dll

[Asukal]

On the standard condition, means when the divice is running on, the blue tooth head set is active and working as usual,

In the case of receipt incomming call while the device is suspending, Device canbe resumed with incomming call, but the Blue tooth head set can`t resume and no work. this is new problem.

Tried to replace BTWizardProfiles.dll to the original version, the result was same. it is not couse of BTWizardProfiles.dll replacement.

Aybody have same problem?
and any solution?

[dlexik]

It's only one piece of the puzzle but there is a good fix for the "BTTrayCE" memory error on the following link ........

http://pocketpcdubai.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=553609464&f=611104143&m=619108285


1 down , how many more to go ?


-d

[ilvanni]

A new patch is released in clubimate site (4.0Mb patch).
I haven't try yet. I will post my impression this night.

[Treo]

Hi,

can someone publish that new patch here please? For all the poor MDAIII users that can't get club i-mate access... thanks.

Treo

[outz]

Yes, I-Mate just released a Bluetooth patch for their PDA2k devices. Use at your own risk blah blah etc etc.

http://www.blueridge.net/dereck/bt/PDA2k_Bluetooth_Fix.CAB

[pablo]

sorry, but the link doesn't work...

[Treo]

It did for me... downloading onto MDAIII now... will post results later...

[geovass]

A new patch is released in clubimate site (4.0Mb patch).
I haven't try yet. I will post my impression this night.

I have installed it. I havent check the BT connectivity yet, but the Built Number is now 3500 ! :D

[Treo]

Hi,

ok... I've installed it... and there is definitely an improvement, however my connection is still far from acceptable... the headset is now correctly activated when a phone call is placed (haven't check incoming on standby yet)... the connection seems to be much more reliable now... I am using a rather uncommon headset from Europe... called B-Speech plus.
The quality of the connection did get slightly better, but I can't be more than 2-3 feet away from the MDAIII... then the connection drops off into red and the sound quality is terrible... it still works about 5-6 feet away, but only very poorly.

Treo

[larry]

Hi everyone, can someone please put the patch in this forum for dounload ? :lol:

Thanks.

[outz]

Larry, look back a page.

[larry]

Sorry but thet link dont work ...

Coul you please mail it ?

my mail is larry1@inwind.it

Thanks a lot :lol:

[geovass]

Its working like charm !
:D
Good work i-mate ! :lol:

[imagine_einstein]

Download it here

http://www.clubimate.com/Support/PDA2k_Bluetooth_Fix.CAB

[vaio]

I want one too, can someone help?

vvaio@email.com

Thanks in advance

[onurd]

Did anyone try his headset with the new Bt stack ( .3500 )? I want to buy a Jabra Bt 250 but I had a very bad experience with the old BT software. Can someone verify me that it works without problems now?

[Asukal]

i am trying now with 2 head set, Omiz and motorola HS801

@basicly, the bt head set is responced with incomming call even the device is suspending. but not so quick responce.

means the device is responced wake up, and ringing at first with incomig call, then aftre many ringing, finaly head set wake up. too late responce.

@while using the BT, the incomming windows comes very late. cant find who`s calling in.

@tested several times, the connection with BT head set will be disconected automaticuly. once disconected it can`t connect automaticaly and manualry. must be soft reset or turn off and turn on BT function on devise.
then it can be connected again. it can`t say fixed complietly, i think.

Also sometimes BT head set can`t responce.i think it no use. just wast 4mb memory of Blue Angel.

No uninstall sysytem for this patch. PLS do not wast Memory. i can not believe i-mate why this can be published!

Also tried to use this new patch with OzBT, seems to be worked.or that was better. this was my result.

this is the last my test with peviouse patch&OZBT.

http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/1219842.html

[saqibj]

Was having trouble uploading the PDA2k bluetooth fix here so here is a link to the file http://www.dsignsolutions.com/i-mate/PDA2k_Bluetooth_Fix.CAB

I've also added the updates for the Qtek 9090 Bluetooth stack. To do so copy both of the following files to the Qtek and then execute them from the file explorer. First do the WWE one, then the Patch file, and then do a soft reset.

1 - http://www.dsignsolutions.com/i-mate/OEM_WWE_124_008.sa.CAB
2 - http://www.dsignsolutions.com/i-mate/OEM_Patche_12100401.sa.CAB

[nvgear]

That's so stupid, now they make bluetooth stay on 24/7, even when the device is off, now it's just going to keep draining battery, and since it doesnt shut off anymore, of course it wont have anymore memory error msgs when turning it on... !!

[onurd]

to saqibj: what are the other 2 cab files that you've posted? How do they differ from the Club-imate patch?

[gigino]

Hey
how say that i-mate has resolve the memory issue I still get the error when I switch on bluetooth.
If you switch on the Wlan then switch it off and then switch on the bluetooth the insufficient driver memory error comes back.
Waste of time and money I think I will send the unit back and go for the Nokia communicator.
Regasrds
Gigino

[geovass]

Hey
how say that i-mate has resolve the memory issue I still get the error when I switch on bluetooth.
If you switch on the Wlan then switch it off and then switch on the bluetooth the insufficient driver memory error comes back.
Waste of time and money I think I will send the unit back and go for the Nokia communicator.
Regasrds
Gigino

I did what you said and i dont get the insufficient driver memory error. :shock: Mine is working perfectly! :lol:

[tansoftware]

U guys have any idea how to apply these new patches on xdaIIs. I've tried upgrading my xdaII, but after warm reseting my device, my xdaII froze at the boot screen without backlighting. I had to hard reset it to get back into working condition. :cry:

[nvgear]

Hey
how say that i-mate has resolve the memory issue I still get the error when I switch on bluetooth.
If you switch on the Wlan then switch it off and then switch on the bluetooth the insufficient driver memory error comes back.
Waste of time and money I think I will send the unit back and go for the Nokia communicator.
Regasrds
Gigino


That's because they just make the bluetooth STAY ON once you turn it on, then it wont have problems, but if you manually turn it off and on and off and on and a few time you will get the error msg again, they didnt fix the problem, they just got around it. At least it's useable now, you just have to turn it on and leave it on.

[saqibj]

to saqibj: what are the other 2 cab files that you've posted? How do they differ from the Club-imate patch?

The other two cab files were released by Dangaard for the Qtek 9090 they upgrade the bluetooh stack to 3500 from build 2200.

I haven't had the chance to check them out yet but will post the results in a day or so.

[bins]

Just installed and played around with the new bluetooth fix on my i-Mate PDA2k, in short: yet another disappointment.

1. Still have the insufficient driver memory issue.

2. Headset and wake-up function is not good enough.
I.e. an incoming call does wake up the PDA2k in suspended mode (it rings there first), but the PDA2k takes too long to connect to my my Sony Ericson HBH 35 bluetooth headset and hence the call gets lost in this way...

3. I also noticed that when using the bluetooth headset, the call ID window showed rather late, obliging me to gamble between accepting an unwanted call or missing a required/wanted call...

In conclusion, the fix does not really seem to fix my issues. :(

Cheers,

Bins

[nvgear]

Yes exactly, just as I have said before all they did was make the bluetooth STAY ON once you turn it on, then it wont have problems, but if you manually turn it off and on and off and on and a few time you will get the error msg again, they didnt fix the problem, they just got around it.

It is however, at least a bit more useable now.

[miguelromerom]

and what about BT dial up modem ?¿?¿?
I send this mail to support of imate:

Hello already I have seen that they have removed a new one patch for the Bt of the PDA2k, but I have detected that yet they have not fixed the option of BT dial up modem ?¿?¿? Where is the problem Greetings Miguel Angel

[guizot]

U guys have any idea how to apply these new patches on xdaIIs. I've tried upgrading my xdaII, but after warm reseting my device, my xdaII froze at the boot screen without backlighting. I had to hard reset it to get back into working condition. :cry:

Download it, copy it to your device through Activesync, and it works like charm on my XDAIIs asian version, even after long sleep (more than 30 mnt) when I've got a call, it automatically transfers to my BT Headset (O2 Blue). No more sleeping issues with my XDAIIs. :D

[fitty]

I installed the patch and works fine on my PDA2k and O2clip bluetooth headset. The response time of BT headset is not bad.

Aslo, I can have Caller ID window come out immediately but the photo is missing sometimes.

Anyways, I am quiten happy with the patch beacuse I can use my bluetooth headset at last....

[[Krueger]Dr.Stein]

U guys have any idea how to apply these new patches on xdaIIs. I've tried upgrading my xdaII, but after warm reseting my device, my xdaII froze at the boot screen without backlighting. I had to hard reset it to get back into working condition. :cry:

Download it, copy it to your device through Activesync, and it works like charm on my XDAIIs asian version, even after long sleep (more than 30 mnt) when I've got a call, it automatically transfers to my BT Headset (O2 Blue). No more sleeping issues with my XDAIIs. :D

You ran the CAB neat without any tweaking Bro?

[guizot]

Dr.Stein]U guys have any idea how to apply these new patches on xdaIIs. I've tried upgrading my xdaII, but after warm reseting my device, my xdaII froze at the boot screen without backlighting. I had to hard reset it to get back into working condition. :cry:

Download it, copy it to your device through Activesync, and it works like charm on my XDAIIs asian version, even after long sleep (more than 30 mnt) when I've got a call, it automatically transfers to my BT Headset (O2 Blue). No more sleeping issues with my XDAIIs. :D

You ran the CAB neat without any tweaking Bro?

yap! run the CAB with NO modification.
But it seems that the Audio cracking noise still exist if I put the XDAIIs more than 50cm from the BT Headset.
:(

[[Krueger]Dr.Stein]

Good news for Xda IIs!

Reason I asked was I spent a good whole hour trying to get this baby up on my Xda II running on WM2003SE.

It finally only worked after some heavy tweaking.

[henrylim]

Dr.Stein]Good news for Xda IIs!

Reason I asked was I spent a good whole hour trying to get this baby up on my Xda II running on WM2003SE.

It finally only worked after some heavy tweaking.

Do you have to disable the MS BT stack in the registry? I'd the
"insufficient memory" issue all the time.

[usamahahmad]

Can someone please post a direct link to the latest imate BT patch release (approx 3.5-4MB .cab).

Or kindly email me the patch at usamah.ahmad@gmail.com

I'd be really grateful! Thanks :)

[straniero]

Hi to all!!!!!
finally patch are available!!!
I haven't yet tried, but tomorrow i will post my impression!

Ciao, ilVanni.

GRANDE ILVANNI!!!

[Tuatara]

Resurrecting DEAD threads from December 2004 will only serve to confuse the unwary! If you NEED this patch, go to the iMate website, register your phone and download it. *sigh* FYI: The patch has been incorporated into the WM2003 ROMs released since.

[Pieki2]

Can someone please post a direct link to the latest imate BT patch for i-mate PDA2K?

Or kindly email me the patch at pieki2@gmail.com

I'd be really grateful! Thanks