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irblinx
18-11-2004, 10:32 PM
So the IIs's (what IS the plural of IIs??) arrived today so serious playi.... er ... product familiarisation has begun.

First off, the colour of the O2 version is very nice (I think the II is looking old fashioned already). The case is ok (I'm not a case fan, I prefer to just lug it around in my pocket).

The keyboard is probably far too fiddly to ever get used by my normal sized pinkies but the blue backlight means that it will look good next to my PS2 even without BT turned on!!!!

The software seems to be up to scratch too, they've even added a decent battery life monitor to the Active and Today screens (The Active screen actually seems fairly usefull this time round!). Not had much of a play with the additional software, apart from those that came with the latest Xda II ROM upgrade ("phone Alison" ....... why is it dialing Colin??), but the GPRS monitor is a welcome addition.

Now onto what, for me, is the most essential part - WiFi and Bluetooth. Let's not beat around the bush, the II was rubbish for both, only really with the latest ROM was the II capable of anything like decent performance with BT Headsets and still didn't support Handsfree. As for WiFi, I used a Sandisk SD card with my II and it was a pain to connect.

Whilst waiting for the release of the IIs we've been playing with iPaq 4150's which have great BT & WiFi tools that even our execs could use!

*WiFi*
Turned the phone on at home and it immediatly sniffed my network (Linksys router) and asking to connect prompted me for my encryption key followed by faultless connection to the internet. Exxxxcelent

*Bluetooth*
My boss had a Nokia CK-7W carkit fitted a few weeks ago, oh how we laughed when the latest II ROM still rendered the II useless in his car!!!! So it was with slight trepidation that we turned the ignition on only for the IIs to find/bond and work perfectly with the kit at first time of asking.

So all in all I'd say that O2 must have actually been listening to us after all (despite not updating the website FAQ's properly since the original Xda). We have a few very good contacts within O2 and had seen a fair amount of info prior to release and received assurances on the above functionality, but I have to say that I didn't believe it till I saw it all with my own eyes!!

Now for some serious testing to see if it's beauty goes further than skin deep

dcs
18-11-2004, 11:05 PM
Nice report :)

...("phone Alison" ....... why is it dialing Colin??)...

:lol: similar experience when my friend was trying out the Fonix voice stuff on his XDA II. We were in stitches at his attempts to phone my mobile (with "Phone Dave Mobile") and it either not understanding or coming up with a suggestion which was hard to see why it thought it sounded like it. It even suggested a number for my friend's expletive of "Oh f**k this" :roll:

irblinx
19-11-2004, 06:17 AM
lol,fonix is hours of fun for all the family ........... cos it could ring any one of them when you're trying to phone your boss!

The next big test for the IIs will be the built in BT phone kit in the 5 series BMW, hopefully one of our directors will be around today to give it a go.

Anonymous
19-11-2004, 10:29 AM
does the bluetooth in new XDA IIs support audio through your headset?

nya2003uk
19-11-2004, 10:33 AM
it would be great if it did, but i doubt it

xda-squid
19-11-2004, 11:58 AM
Can the gprs internet connection be shared out through the WiFi? I'd like my notebook to see it as an access point and use it's network access. Never got this to work with xdaII bluetooth and my powerbook, Apple's BT stack doesn't recognize the widcomm bt "server".
I'll buy one tomorrow if it can bridge the 802.11 and the gprs!

irblinx
19-11-2004, 04:41 PM
Audio through your headset? not sure what you're wanting it to do here but I'll list the options on the BT new connection Wizard

Hands-free/Headset Setup
ActiveSync
Browse Files on a remote device
Connect to a network
Join a personal network
Exchange Business Cards
Explore a Bluetooth device

As for sharing the GPRS connection via WiFi, it may be possible if you set the connection on the Xda to NOT connect to the internet, otherwise the WiFi settings seem to overide GPRS. Sorry not much help! Couldn't you link them up with BT instead?

GOOD NEWS though

Successfully paired up the IIs with a BMW X5's built in BT phone stuff so it's another tick in the box for O2

Anonymous
19-11-2004, 05:10 PM
Can you hear your MP3's or tomtom voice through your bluetooth headset?

xda-rocks
19-11-2004, 06:55 PM
no

boyo69
21-11-2004, 11:21 AM
So the IIs's (what IS the plural of IIs??) arrived today so serious playi.... er ... product familiarisation has begun.


Hi there

great report

just a quick question..........I have been ringing o2 daily to enquire about the arrival and keep getting told that it is 'next week'........where did you get your unit from ?? I tried o2 Salisbury on Thursday and they told me that they hadn't received a release date yet !!

cheers!

churchwa
21-11-2004, 12:41 PM
The phone is out at o2 now, has been since late Thursday evening. It will not be in the stores until Wed/Thu next week.

just call up and order it. I did ;)

xda-rocks
21-11-2004, 02:16 PM
Could somebody with the XDAIIs please post the extended Rom files.

Anonymous
21-11-2004, 02:54 PM
The phone is out at o2 now, has been since late Thursday evening. It will not be in the stores until Wed/Thu next week.

just call up and order it. I did ;)

Just rang o2....allegedly it will leave tomorrow for delivery Tuesday !!!

thanks for letting me know !

churchwa
21-11-2004, 04:30 PM
NP, what sort of a deal did they give you? (If you don't mind me asking?)

zaWasp
21-11-2004, 09:26 PM
Could somebody with the XDAIIs please post the extended Rom files.

I would also need them... please

irblinx
22-11-2004, 06:54 AM
I ordered ours through our dedicated o2 business team at the beginning of the week, as our commodity manager sent us the product code when the launch got delayed (internal pakaging problems!). The advantages of working for a big company with a corporate o2 deal!

Price wise we don't do so well on hardware, prob cos we pay next to nothing for line rental, I think they were 350 gbp each (ever noticed how u don't pay as much attention when it's not your money?), all "in contract upgrades". I'll double check when I get to work.

Anyhoo, a big box arrived on Thurs and opening it revealed 11 cool gadgets! Still waiting for the accessories to be released though.

I'll check for the cab file later.

Anonymous
22-11-2004, 09:09 AM
Could somebody with the XDAIIs please post the extended Rom files

How to do it?

xda-rocks
22-11-2004, 09:28 AM
Unlock extRom using the unlock tool attached.
reset device
Browse to the extended rom from your desktop computer and copy the files - zip them up and post them here.

M4io
22-11-2004, 10:42 AM
is extended rom unlocker the same for Himalaya and Blue Angel?

xda-rocks
22-11-2004, 10:44 AM
It unhides both, but it doesn't unlock the Blue Angel. But you can copy the files out of the extROM once you can see them.

Cheddies
22-11-2004, 02:52 PM
I just bought one, well ordered one from o2 as an upgrade for the princley sum of £179.99, not a bad deal methinks seeing as the standard II is the same price. I had to go though select customer services because the stores are a bit gormless (well the one in Putney was, they had not heared of the xda IIs and tried to sell me a II, ealing broadway at least knew what it was but had no info on when they would get it or how much, told me to ring select, and the nice lady there ordered ir for me.
Lets just hope it comes soon........ I cant wait

apatrick
22-11-2004, 04:37 PM
regarding that O2 select line - what was the number you called? I don't think I can stand talking to too many "none too bright" people along the way!

churchwa
22-11-2004, 07:47 PM
Cheddies, you should have been harder on them. I ordered mine on Sat and got it for £89.99 (£179.99 - 2 months line rental)

not a bad deal!!!

Cheddies
22-11-2004, 08:04 PM
IMHO what i paid was fair seeing as i am not due an upgrade for a couple months..i am just too impatiant! :D
the slect members service number is 08702410202 but it does vary from reigon to reigon, and weather you bought your phone in a store or online.. try it tho.. see what you get (press, i beleive option 2 for sales and advice)
Eddie

boyo69
22-11-2004, 08:42 PM
NP, what sort of a deal did they give you? (If you don't mind me asking?)

hi, forgot to sign in when i last replied !

the deal I got was £259.99 as an upgrade........I only had an XDAII last year on a data only tariff.....I have just upgraded the tariff to £14.50/36mb/mth tariff

hope it helps !

boyo69
22-11-2004, 08:52 PM
The phone is out at o2 now, has been since late Thursday evening. It will not be in the stores until Wed/Thu next week.

just call up and order it. I did ;)
ps...they told me it would leave today for delivery tomorrow....did you get yours yet??? how quick after order were they?

churchwa
22-11-2004, 09:44 PM
Not got mine yet, they said 2-5 working days, so hopefully tomorrow!!

(BTW. I had 1 month left on my contract too, i just gave them what for and said all the other networks had the same phone now)