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john
21-11-2004, 07:47 PM
hi guys,
Does anybody know if it is possible to change the language of the MDA Compact from German to English?
because i'd like to order one, but i dont want to be stuck wit this german language on my device.
thanks.

mikewchandler
22-11-2004, 05:08 PM
See some of the other forums for more details...But, to answer you question... Yes, you can flash the English ROM which should be available later this week from nowicom (which is where I assume you are buying MDA Compact???

27
22-11-2004, 06:35 PM
See some of the other forums for more details...But, to answer you question... Yes, you can flash the English ROM which should be available later this week from nowicom (which is where I assume you are buying MDA Compact???

What if I buy a German one from some other place. Can I still flash it with the Nowicom software?

Anonymous
22-11-2004, 06:59 PM
Not sure. Where are you going to buy???

mikewchandler
22-11-2004, 07:50 PM
Not sure. Where are you going to buy???

This was me. I wasn't logged in.

27
22-11-2004, 08:37 PM
Not sure. Where are you going to buy???

This was me. I wasn't logged in.

I'm not sure. Does it matter though? It the same hardware isn't it?

mikewchandler
22-11-2004, 08:56 PM
No. I'm just curious b/c I had a hard time finding a place to buy. :? nowicom is about the only place where I found it "in stock". :)

Anonymous
22-11-2004, 09:40 PM
Can I download the german version from somewhere just in case the english upgrade of nowicom won't work?

mikewchandler
22-11-2004, 09:56 PM
Hey Katsj :) I ordered from nowicom based on some of your comments. Anyway, I just took a risk and have no idea how to flash the English ROM. The support at nowicom said it was a simple update and said she didn't know how to do it either :shock: Although, she said that she would find out tomorrow. My device should be shipped tomorrow :D :D

Anonymous
22-11-2004, 11:24 PM
Mike believe me flashing a pocket pc its extremely easy! My MDA compact will be shipped tomorrow with UPS Express I asked for the fastest way and I am willing to pay the 92 euros for the next day delivery!
I will let you know as soon as I flash mine and I will give you all the details!

27
23-11-2004, 08:07 AM
No. I'm just curious b/c I had a hard time finding a place to buy. :? nowicom is about the only place where I found it "in stock". :)

No, that's not what I mean.

I mean, does it matter where you buy it as it's the same hardware?

I'm just thinking that many people will be buying from German websites as that seems to be the only plave it's available in Europe.

mikewchandler
23-11-2004, 10:24 AM
No. I'm just curious b/c I had a hard time finding a place to buy. :? nowicom is about the only place where I found it "in stock". :)

No, that's not what I mean.

I mean, does it matter where you buy it as it's the same hardware?

I'm just thinking that many people will be buying from German websites as that seems to be the only plave it's available in Europe.

I knew what you meant. :wink: But, I'm afraid I don't know the answer. Hopefully, more info on this will be posted by some others that are in the know!! :D

edsub
26-11-2004, 12:28 AM
@katsj: Could you upload the English MDA Compact ROM, or even better:
Intellidialer.cab, Intellipad.cab (in ExtRom) and cprog.exe (in windows) . . . .

Anonymous
26-11-2004, 12:54 AM
If I get the english rom then I will upload all the extended rom files. Nowicom didnt send us a link as they promised today!

edsub
26-11-2004, 08:13 AM
Thanks! Looking forward to that! 8)

Anonymous
26-11-2004, 09:08 AM
can someone, who have the compact in german already, post the german ROM files please?

Anonymous
26-11-2004, 09:19 AM
Just had e-mail from nowicom saying that the english rom won't be availble until Monday now.

I'm not sure if I believe them.

27
26-11-2004, 11:20 AM
Just had e-mail from nowicom saying that the english rom won't be availble until Monday now.

I'm not sure if I believe them.

I don't understand why you wouldn't believe them. You think they're lying?

optica
26-11-2004, 11:29 AM
Idem for the Nowicom E mail: available Monday

Anonymous
26-11-2004, 11:52 AM
here's the answer from Nowicom to my last email (one hour ago) :

Hello,

we are still working on it. It could be that we have it today or during the weekend. It is not sure that it takes until monday. As soon as it is available, we will send it around.

Anonymous
26-11-2004, 01:56 PM
well they obviously don't have it.

I think they have an imate jam and are try in to get it off and put it into some sort of install and things are not going that well.

You guys might be stuck with a german device for a while, someone eventually will figure it out.

Anonymous
26-11-2004, 02:01 PM
you guys are trusting, you bought a german device from some retailer who has promised (and not delivered) some sort of english rom?

And you don't speak german. umm hello, you must have lots of money.

Anonymous
26-11-2004, 02:08 PM
The support at nowicom said it was a simple update and said she didn't know how to do it either :shock: Although, she said that she would find out tomorrow.

Umm hello? Their tech "did not know how to do it?" Guess she didn't find out how to do it tomorrow since it is tomorrow already.

Anonymous
26-11-2004, 02:18 PM
same with XDA3. Not a problem at all. And they figured a ROM out together with Globalcommsuppliers here too. So i dont care and wait few more :wink:

edsub
26-11-2004, 02:52 PM
can someone, who have the compact in german already, post the german ROM files please?

It is posted allready. Use search. Cant remenber whether is was here or on www.ppc-welt.info

Anonymous
27-11-2004, 06:56 AM
The support at nowicom said it was a simple update and said she didn't know how to do it either :shock: Although, she said that she would find out tomorrow.

Umm hello? Their tech "did not know how to do it?" Guess she didn't find out how to do it tomorrow since it is tomorrow already.


That wasn't their tech but their sales. These ppl at Nowicom are very friendly and so far I trust them. They have kept all their promises so far.

jpa
29-11-2004, 11:04 AM
are you working for them ? Because we are still waiting for the rom upgrade and they don't answer to our emails ...

andrewpmoore
29-11-2004, 11:38 AM
The support at nowicom said it was a simple update and said she didn't know how to do it either :shock: Although, she said that she would find out tomorrow.

Umm hello? Their tech "did not know how to do it?" Guess she didn't find out how to do it tomorrow since it is tomorrow already.


That wasn't their tech but their sales. These ppl at Nowicom are very friendly and so far I trust them. They have kept all their promises so far.

Which bit have they kept. I was told it would ship with an English Rom when i ordered it. Then I was told I'd have to do it myself and would get it on Thursday. Thursday came and they said Friday, Friday came and they said Monday.

If the only reason they didn't put the patch on themselves was because there were so many orders, then what would they have done if there'd only been a couple. I'm sure they still couldn't have put on a english rom, because if they could, they'd have had the patch ready on Thursday.

jpa
29-11-2004, 11:48 AM
more news ...

http://www.compactjam.com/threadView.aspx?id=44

Forget nowicom !

Anonymous
29-11-2004, 11:57 AM
whats that?

jpa
29-11-2004, 12:00 PM
the site is down. You will see on the thread that Nowicom doesn't have the upgrade as promised!

Forget this saler!

Anonymous
29-11-2004, 12:11 PM
Hi,

i am a boss of nowicom. First i want to tell you that we never had a english ROM for the compact in our hand, if somebody told someone that- its wrong and i will speak to the guy directly who said that.

Next thing is, that we have expieriences with flashing updates to english (like we did together on the MDA3). We sold tons of MDA compact in the last week and all customers are happy. We couldnt deliver all compact in the same time- sorry for that but we can only sell what tmobile give us.

About the software. We work hardly on it and we are discussing with HTC and imate in the moment for getting the english ROM and also we are working on to create the our own ROM. All warranty is via nowicom- so there is no problem.

I am sure that we have the update until latest time wednesday. If there are some users who cant wait, there is no problem, just return the phone and we refund the full money.

I am sorry that you guys have to wait longer than expect.

PS: the tmobile ROM lock is like on the MDA3 not a problem. (i think there are until today no other english MDA3 ROM out than ours, and everybody is happy too ;-)

jpa
29-11-2004, 12:19 PM
Yes! An answer from Nowicom. I have only one thing to say : we will see wednesday.

Anonymous
29-11-2004, 12:23 PM
@jpa

Please send me a mail with your name to smeyer@nowicom.com

I have to check why you didnt got a mail. the whole customer service is writing emails the whole day. And for the english language customers thats 4 people in the same time. It is possible that an answer needs few hours, but that you never here from us is not good, so tell me your datas and i will check out whats wrong...

Anonymous
29-11-2004, 12:52 PM
I also bought from Nowicom and haven't had an answer about the English ROM since Thu. I had to call myself. What's bothering me about all this is that ppl at Nowicom are lying to us.

When I first called they told me it's only in German. After 5 mins they called me back and they said they were mistaken ... "we have it in English but you will have to do it yourself ... we will send you a link ...".

So I confirmed the order. When I asked for the link they said they don't have it yet! ... "we should have it by Thu ...".

Then I started to get suspicious and asked them whether they actually have the ROM or not! They said they are working on it and will have it ready on Fri. Then on Fri they said it's Monday latest. Now it's Wednesday .....

Maybe I'm lucky that my power switch is not working properly and I will have to return it back anyway.

Mind you, NOWICOM PROVIDED ME WITH AN EXCELLENT SERVICE, but I was expecting them to be more straight forward when it came to the English ROM issue.

Anonymous
29-11-2004, 01:58 PM
In addition to my last post above, I sent an e-mail to S. Meyer at Nowicom and he replied immediately. I will be returning the phone, Nowicom will arrange for a UPS pick up and they will cover all the costs. That is very professional and nice of them. I certainly won't have any problems buying from them again.

katsj
30-11-2004, 12:41 PM
Hi Boss from nowicom, :lol:

Anynews about the ROM today? Do you think that you can make it by tomorrow as you promised? And PLEASEEEEEEEE tell us are we gonna get future upgrades on time? Do you have to unlock its new ROM everytime you are getting one? or is it an "once unlocked then upgrade whenever you want" process? If you answer this as well then we will be happy customers of yours :wink:

Anonymous
30-11-2004, 12:46 PM
Yes, you can still change our opinion about Nowicom ..... :wink:

Anonymous
30-11-2004, 01:49 PM
hm, i forgot to register again :( So i am the boss of nowicom again.

Our Dubai partner supports us in the moment with the original imate jam ROM, so i think we only need few hours to work it out- i hope so :lol:

The ROM works like the MDA3 ROM, we make a .exe file and that unlocks and updates the phone. I pray that we have the ROM ready until today in the late evening. I will post the downloadlink to our server in this thread than.

Anonymous
30-11-2004, 01:53 PM
Thanks Seba!!!
:D
Ciao

optica
30-11-2004, 02:03 PM
Thanks for this precision Mr Guess ....

we hope the English ROM for this evening.

:)

jpa
30-11-2004, 02:07 PM
Thanks. Maybe this night will be short ... my Mda need to be customized !
:D

katsj
30-11-2004, 02:22 PM
If you manage to deliver the ROM to us then it will be great and you will have many pleased customers or should I say future customers too! :wink:
Can I consider that after unlocking the phone we will be able to upgrade our MDA Compacts with imate's ROM updates without having to get an exe from you? Please answer that!

madds
30-11-2004, 02:51 PM
Hi, mr "boss of nowicon.de"

Since you will be giving us a upgrade from a different brand of the device, it would be good for us to have a responsability term from you emailed to us. As we all know changing the language of the tmobile device rom to a tmobile rom isn't good at all. Changing it to another distributer rom it's even worse.
Just write a few lines telling that it was up to you to get the upgrade, and that your company will be held responsible in case tmobile support decides to not support the mda compact due to a language change.

Also it would be interesting to have a german rom ready to upload to the device in case it needs service from tmobile.

Just my advice!!!!

Thank's

katsj
30-11-2004, 03:05 PM
Good point madds! A copy of the original ROM is good to have just in case something goes wrong, but in case of a fawlty device Nowicom already stated that we only have to send it to them and it will be covered by their warranty.
But we better leave him alone for the day at least till he finishes with our ROM upgrade! :lol:

madds
30-11-2004, 03:12 PM
we are all looking foward to that upgrade.

I'm now promoting this day as the less productive of the year in my work and as the one with the most visits to xda-developers.com and compactjam.com (i speak for myself :shock: )

katsj
30-11-2004, 03:16 PM
@Moderators: How many times are we allowed to refresh this page? :lol:

Xetra
30-11-2004, 03:45 PM
I'm an happy mda compact owner and very happy nowicom customer (except i have one dead pixel on my screen :( maybe covered by the warranty ?)

but excellent service from nowicom.

We waiting english update.

Anonymous
30-11-2004, 03:51 PM
@Nowicom boss

What time do you normally go to sleep? :lol:

(... just to see when I can go to sleep as well)

nowicom
30-11-2004, 04:04 PM
Now i registered a new account :D

So, yeah, the imate english ROM allow you to unlock and upgrade your compact with the jam software. YOu never will have warranty problems, its the same with the MDA2 or 3, i never got back one of this phones with original software, and we got them all repaired without problems. If there should be a problem- nowicom offers to all products we sell 2years unlimited warranty to our customers, with free pick up. (we have to do that, coz i some countrys we deliver phones, the phones never come out officially)

I am sorry to tell you that i go to bed really late, round about 2am MET, but i am leaving the office 7pm MEZ, than i have more time and i will keep you posted, that yyou dont have to wait that long

8)

katsj
30-11-2004, 04:44 PM
What I was asking is if someone that will flash the upgrade that you are working on tonight and have access to imate's future ROMS will be able to use imate's ROMs without having you to unlock them first each time!
Can you clear this up for us please?

nowicom
30-11-2004, 04:57 PM
yeah, sure. Only the provider branded stuff (tmobile, vodafone, orange) do have the ROM locks. After this upgrade you have a compact like you bought it from imate, so you can upgrade any software on it.

katsj
30-11-2004, 05:22 PM
What's the situation now? Do you think you will make it till tonight?

nowicom
30-11-2004, 05:54 PM
no news yet, my programmer have to do a brake now, better check tomorrow morning again here pls :(

katsj
30-11-2004, 06:03 PM
You are killing us! Should I send you my credit card details again so you can buy him loads of food and coffee so he finishes the job for us??? I would be glad to! :lol:

aristobrat
30-11-2004, 06:11 PM
Will nowicom customers have access to future i-mate ROM updates?

The reason I ask is that you normally have to login to clubimate.com to download them, and normally only customers with i-mate branded devices can get access.

THANKS!

Anonymous
30-11-2004, 06:22 PM
you don't need to login. the ftp site accept anonymous access
ftp.clubimate.com/support

nowicom
30-11-2004, 06:42 PM
You are killing us! Should I send you my credit card details again so you can buy him loads of food and coffee so he finishes the job for us??? I would be glad to! :lol:

:D :D :D Noooo :D

It is possible that he finish it tonight, but i dont want you all to stay awake and maybe for nothing tonight.

katsj
30-11-2004, 08:07 PM
Can you get him to post the link here in case he finishes tonight? Get him a few days of! He deserves it if he makes it by tonight! :lol:

nowicom
30-11-2004, 08:19 PM
be sure, in the second it works, i show the link here, and the guy have the rest of the week holiday :lol:

katsj
30-11-2004, 08:25 PM
I guess Suzan and Sandy will need some holidays too after the availability of this upgrade! At some time I felt like a teacher going hard on a 10 year old student that didn't do his homework when I talked to one of them and the only word she could come up with was "sorry". :lol:
If your programmer manage to get the update soon Christmas will seem to be a lot sooner for you people at Nowicom! :lol: :lol: :lol:

katsj
30-11-2004, 09:21 PM
Please let us know if he quits for tonight! If he goes to sleep then I will too! :lol:

Bman
30-11-2004, 09:37 PM
Hee Katsj, does your live depend on it? :)

katsj
30-11-2004, 09:58 PM
I will be leaving on a bussiness trip tomorrow for a couple of days so I would love to have it! Thats the reason for my anxiety! :wink:

nowicom
30-11-2004, 10:21 PM
ok, so here is the status:

he is not answering the phone, i think he fall in sleep. His last problem was to get it again into a working *.exe file and to test if the unlocking really works.

I have to go to bed now too, i am totally done for today.

Tomorrow Thomas (the programmer) is coming 10am to the office, give us just 1-2 hours more for testing.

I will (and also the Customercare) will keep you up to date and we are sending the link with the SW on our server around in the second it works :-D

thanks guys
have still a good night
Sebastian

katsj
30-11-2004, 10:24 PM
I guess that means you are close in fixing our unlocking ROM. I hope you ll make it till 12:00 pm tomorrow.

Goodnight Sebastian!

vpreHoose
30-11-2004, 11:08 PM
Which version of the ROM are you guys using for the update?

vpreHoose
30-11-2004, 11:16 PM
yeah, sure. Only the provider branded stuff (tmobile, vodafone, orange) do have the ROM locks. After this upgrade you have a compact like you bought it from imate, so you can upgrade any software on it.

I severely doubt this to be true.

jpa
30-11-2004, 11:23 PM
why ?

wnpublic
01-12-2004, 12:54 AM
same with XDA3. Not a problem at all. And they figured a ROM out together with Globalcommsuppliers here too. So i dont care and wait few more

As one of the three or so guys who worked out how to change the German MDA3 ROM to the English imate PDA2K ROM, I can tell you that whoever told you that is fibbing. The various resellers who had German MDA3s to sell had made ZERO progress before community people got involved and found a way to do it, the results of which were provided to these resellers. So don't get your hopes up that someone's "programmers" can do it.

The ROM works like the MDA3 ROM, we make a .exe file and that unlocks and updates the phone. I pray that we have the ROM ready until today in the late evening. I will post the downloadlink to our server in this thread than.

Um, that's not how it worked. So I would take anything you hear from the person who said this with a grain of salt.

That said, I would be very surprised if the Magician could not be transplanted with an English ROM in the same fashion that the BlueAngel was. If there is an English ROM readily available, it's a matter of fixing up the header file to "fool" the upgrade process into thinking it is upgrading like to like, e.g., english to english or german to german. Such a process would need to be performed on an upgrade ROM file each time, but it's very simple once you understand it.

gratefuled
01-12-2004, 03:33 AM
Those who think that once, if it happens, they get an i-Mate JAM ROM on a T-Mobile device that it will magically turn into a JAM with full Club I-Mate support are mistaken. You need an I-Mate device serial # to be a member there.

This may or may not be an issue, and this Site is the place where you will ultimately get the best support and future upgrades.

A year ago I was able to upgrade my hacked MDA II with T-Mobile Netherland ROMs set with WWE. That way I could at least keep my T-Mobile device ROMs under the same brand, which eliminates the Country ID issues, etc.

I will say though, that many users switch Branded ROMs on a regular basis seemingly without issue, but to do so you will need to be prepared to re-work certain items within the ROM.

Good luck guys. Nowicom is the Tek N Toys of a year ago. At least people got the devices, however.

katsj
01-12-2004, 07:22 AM
Who should I believe now? :roll:
Let's wait and see people! Let's give Nowicom a chacne to prove what they say! If they don't deliver the ROM and if upgrading to an imate ROM coming directly from imateclub site is not possible then you may take the piss out of them! But for now please let them prove their selfs.
All of us the people who bought an MDA Compact from them we need some hope! Let us hope!

Matterhorn
01-12-2004, 07:40 AM
OH no! No politics here please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

katsj
01-12-2004, 07:50 AM
If a bit of teasing and some Humour considered to be politics then ok erase my message! I didn't mean to offend anyone! Come on! We are talking about the chance to get our phones unlocked! Is this planet loosing its sense of humour???? :(
I edited my previous message! I hope you are happy now! :(

BTW what's that Tek N Toys thing?????? Could you please explain?

Matterhorn
01-12-2004, 08:00 AM
OK, I step down from my soapbox :)

Off the subject of this thread, I remember reading that you are going to try the Sandisk WiFi card with 256mg on your Compact, have you tried it yet?

Matt

katsj
01-12-2004, 08:05 AM
Off the subject of this thread, I remember reading that you are going to try the Sandisk WiFi card with 256mg on your Compact, have you tried it yet?

Matt

I am expecting it to arrive some time next week. I will let you know! I am really impatient for that too! Did you find any info somewhere else about the compatibility of this card? Only a pic at msmobiles gives me some hope! :roll:

Matterhorn
01-12-2004, 08:13 AM
I did read in a thread somewhere that somebody contacted the guy that wrote the review. He apparently verified that the iMate works with the Sandisk SD Wifi 256mg. I hope so because I sent back my standard wifi card and ordered the one with memory because of what I read...throwing the dice :D


Matt

Anonymous
01-12-2004, 08:35 AM
Saw the following on the imate forums, isn't this a nowicom guy?

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Hi,

i crashed the ROM, where can i find the *.exe file to get it working again?

thanks

Anonymous
01-12-2004, 08:46 AM
Yes !?? Hey M. Nowicom, can you explain us ?

kta
01-12-2004, 09:45 AM
Any type of message/reply/update to the above posts from Mr. Nowicom will be greatly appreciated! And it will help his business too.

kta
01-12-2004, 11:21 AM
Has everyone gone quite, or are you all busy re-packing your MDA Compact for return? :lol:

Anonymous
01-12-2004, 11:22 AM
Quite ? No! Nervous ? Yes!

Anonymous
01-12-2004, 11:30 AM
Hey M. Meyer, did you found the rom yesterday to hack it an to send it to your customers ? :twisted:

Anonymous
01-12-2004, 11:32 AM
Quite ? No! Nervous ? Yes!

Well I requested a return yesterday, and haven't heard a thing from them. Strange that they seem much less responsive to returns than sales. They might get away with it if there's a ROM by 4pm, as i've one has not arrived by then, it's on it's way back.

nowicom
01-12-2004, 11:45 AM
ok, here are the news:

my guy have problems. The thing is he got the english ROM, worked on it and couldnt bring it to work. He told me last night
as the last, that he need a new *.exe file of the software because he didnt have the one we had anymore (the one from imate).
I cant get it again and today in the morning he only told me he cant do it.

I didnt read all posts since yesterday night here, but i read from someone who worked also on the MDA3 ROM (and faster than
nowicom) so i want to ask everybody here (and i will do it on the phone to some people i know too) everybody who can do the
english imate/compact/s100 ROM, will get 400€ or a compact for free from nowicom.

I am absolutely unsatisfied with this situation, everybody who cant wait anymore can still return his phone- (pls contact the
customer service for that) i can understand that.

If there is someone who can help us, please send me a mail and i will give you the files we have already maybe that helps.

If there are more questions for today, please write a mail too.


I am on the road for the rest of the day, so i am unable to post in this forum before today in the late night or
tomorrow morning. If someone want to contact me please email me to: smeyer@nowicom.com

thanks and sorry again
Seb

PS: why only guests saying bad things about nowicom, why you dont show your name instead to write so much trash in this topic
full of seriuos problems and questions without showing where you are?

Anonymous
01-12-2004, 11:45 AM
ok, so here is the status:

he is not answering the phone, i think he fall in sleep. His last problem was to get it again into a working *.exe file and to test if the unlocking really works.

I have to go to bed now too, i am totally done for today.

Tomorrow Thomas (the programmer) is coming 10am to the office, give us just 1-2 hours more for testing.

I will (and also the Customercare) will keep you up to date and we are sending the link with the SW on our server around in the second it works :-D

thanks guys
have still a good night
Sebastian

Hello,

And so, where is the rom ? What is the new issue ?

Thanks

wnpublic
01-12-2004, 03:33 PM
The thing is he got the english ROM, worked on it and couldnt bring it to work. He told me last night
as the last, that he need a new *.exe file of the software because he didnt have the one we had anymore (the one from iMate).

He hacked the original and only copy he had of the english ROM? Ridiculous.

If someone can send me an original imate JAM ROM, I can take a look at it and see if it can be modded to install on an MDA Compact using the same method as used for the MDA III.

katsj
01-12-2004, 03:43 PM
I will be sending you the ROM! I am going to get it soon! But how are you gonna try it without an MDA Compact? PM me your e-mail

andrewpmoore
01-12-2004, 03:43 PM
The thing is he got the english ROM, worked on it and couldnt bring it to work. He told me last night
as the last, that he need a new *.exe file of the software because he didnt have the one we had anymore (the one from iMate).

He hacked the original and only copy he had of the english ROM? Ridiculous.

If someone can send me an original imate JAM ROM, I can take a look at it and see if it can be modded to install on an MDA Compact using the same method as used for the MDA III.

Sounds all too crazy to me too.

Might be worth getting in touch with BMan on the thread here:

http://www.compactjam.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=12&PN=1&TPN=2

he's got an English ROM (but tmobile locked I think)

Anonymous
01-12-2004, 04:04 PM
I am a programmer and I knew on Tuesday that you guys wouldnt get the ROM.
Why!!!
Because under pressure NOBODY can deliver a quality product. What you guys were doing was to pressurize Seb into delivering the ROM.He in turn must have turned up the heat on his poor programmer. No wonder the programmer made mistakes.
Seb just take it cool and get the ROM done. You will still make your money cos the imate Jam is HOT!! and demand is gonna strip supply in the medium term.
As soon as its done I am buying my JAM from Nowicom.
I am not some faceless guest.
I am the OldManChild

wnpublic
01-12-2004, 04:11 PM
But how are you gonna try it without an MDA Compact?

I'm not. Someone else will have to. What I'm going to do is have a look at the ROM files, see if the headers are similar in structure to the BlueAngel, and if so, try to modify those headers to enable an install.

In the meantime, it would be a useful first step if a few of you with the devices in hand could run the attached file on the Compact and tell me the results of Devicedata.txt.

katsj
01-12-2004, 04:12 PM
OldManChild I will disagree with you in one thing! None that calls him self a respectable programmer would hack any type of file without keeping a copy of the original file stored somewhere else intact! So the gay that Sebastian used to get the ROM hacked is probably a stupid "I think I know everything" type of "programmer".

kta
01-12-2004, 04:18 PM
Talk about version control !!
:lol:

katsj
01-12-2004, 04:25 PM
Whats the name of the file it creates? cause it doesn't seem to work!

jpa
01-12-2004, 04:27 PM
same thing for me. Nothing in the directory ?

digger
01-12-2004, 04:37 PM
wnpublic: extracted and tried to run, but it just doesn't seem to run (and no file is generated). When extracted the file is 9kb - does that sound correct?

wnpublic
01-12-2004, 04:38 PM
Look in //Windows. sorry.

jpa
01-12-2004, 04:41 PM
thanks for your help

wnpublic
01-12-2004, 04:49 PM
Ok, that is promising.

"PM10A" is the device id

GER is the country code

T-MOB101 is the operator ID.

Nobody need do it anymore.

kta
01-12-2004, 05:02 PM
wnpublic, you seem to be our new hero!

Did you get hold of the imate JAM ROM?

wnpublic
01-12-2004, 05:05 PM
wnpublic, you seem to be our new hero!

Well i hope it works, but please don't place all your hopes on me. you're just setting me up to be the bad guy if it doesn't work.

It really might not work. There's a lot of things that need to come together. I only promise to try.

katsj
01-12-2004, 05:10 PM
Please try! If it works for your friends MDA Compact it will probably work for us too! Isn't it? :wink:

kta
01-12-2004, 05:11 PM
@wnpublic

Well, you've already done much more than anyone here expected, so you're probably already in everyone's good books.

And remember ... you could get a FREE Compact from nowicom too!

When would we have something to try then? Pardon my ignorance in this regard.

wnpublic
01-12-2004, 05:56 PM
I am waiting for the nowicom fellow to send me the files that his developerguy was working on. I can't do anything until i see those files, or otherwise get a full copy of the imate JAM rom.

He said he would get them to me in a few hours. We'll then have to see what has been done to them. The indication was that he had fried his original copy somehow. we'll see.

BTW, I know this will not make any of you happy, and I understand your impatience to get an english version, but I can assure you that whatever happens, as soon as Carrier Devices releases a ROM update for the JAM - something it does pretty often - that update will almost certainly be able to be loaded on your devices fairly easily. The devicedata.txt file indicates to me that the method will be the same.

jpa
01-12-2004, 06:05 PM
Can you explain us how to backup all the rom on a compacr ? If i use mtty and d2s as command is it the good way ?
Thanks

skeye
01-12-2004, 06:09 PM
I am a boss of russian firm who sale already t-mobile compacts in Russia (webpanel.ru) with germany rom. I have a couple of programmers in my staff and we can play with this problem. Can somebody send me an english rom from i-mate jam or s100 and any usifull information? My e-mail is: igor@spirin.ru.
Thanks,
Igor Spirin

katsj
01-12-2004, 07:49 PM
I am a boss of russian firm who sale already t-mobile compacts in Russia (webpanel.ru) with germany rom. I have a couple of programmers in my staff and we can play with this problem. Can somebody send me an english rom from i-mate jam or s100 and any usifull information? My e-mail is: igor@spirin.ru.
Thanks,
Igor Spirin

Igor have a look at http://www.compactjam.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=12&PN=1&TPN=2 someone seems to have a copy of that rom already

Anonymous
01-12-2004, 09:19 PM
MDA Compact Upgrades


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

can anyone help me to updte my MDA Compact to English. I had buy it today from t-mobile Germany. thanks
my E-mail misobhy@hotmail.com :roll:

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katsj
02-12-2004, 09:01 AM
wnpublic do you have any news for us??? Please give us a report of your progress! We are despirate! :oops:

katsj
02-12-2004, 10:51 AM
wnpublic are you working on it? Please tell us!

Anonymous
02-12-2004, 11:05 AM
wnpublic are you working on it? Please tell us!

I guess he's in america, so could probably be sleeping at the moment! 8)

Bman
02-12-2004, 12:26 PM
T-mobile simlocked English ROM

Extracted with "mtty.exe" using "d2s" command.

Filled the sd card with zero's first

Read off sd card with hex editor. (copy sectors)

Deleted the last zero's to get 54 mb file.

Have fun!

btw I'm to "chicken" to try to set it back on my MDA.....

Xetra
02-12-2004, 12:35 PM
someone tried s2d on a german mda ? :o)

Bman
02-12-2004, 12:45 PM
That would be nowicom. (I guess)
But he doesn't give details.....

katsj
02-12-2004, 01:00 PM
If all of you people are trying to download the ROM at the same time then nowicom won't be able to get the file and unlock it! Please stop getting that file! Its locked and of no use to you!

Anonymous
02-12-2004, 01:07 PM
I've tried several time s2d with different devices but it haven't done anything!
Has some one had better success of me?

Cheers

Bman
02-12-2004, 01:11 PM
How did you put the file (btw which file?) on sd card?

Xetra
02-12-2004, 01:58 PM
If all of you people are trying to download the ROM at the same time then nowicom won't be able to get the file and unlock it! Please stop getting that file! Its locked and of no use to you!

i don't think simlock is coded in the rom ...
so if someone can do a s2d, it will be ok!

btw i don't think we can flash by another language rom without dumped the bootloader (d2s 0) but it seems this method is not working on the mda compact.

can nowicom uplaod their files on the ftp ?

Riccardo
02-12-2004, 02:18 PM
Not allowed to update, this is what I get.

But I'm trying something else....

Jest wait! few minute!

Riccardo
02-12-2004, 02:27 PM
Press power to flash!!!!!!!!!!!!!

16%
Wooooooooooou

katsj
02-12-2004, 02:38 PM
Did you dare to flash a German MDA Compact with the ROM above???
Very brave man! :shock:
Give us the result! Are you using a T-Mobile sim?
Are you still there alive or you become suicidal after the flash? :cry:

Bman
02-12-2004, 02:44 PM
Ricarddo has the biggest BALLS.:evil:

"d2s 0" doesn't work, MDA hangs on cal checksum.

"h" or "?" for help doesn't work either.

madds
02-12-2004, 02:45 PM
Did you dare to flash a German MDA Compact with the ROM above???
Very brave man! :shock:
Give us the result! Are you using a T-Mobile sim?
Are you still there alive or you become suicidal after the flash? :cry:

hehehe, don't be bad!!!!

That's a brave step (i wouldn't take it in first hand)!!!!

Tell us how your going!!!!

katsj
02-12-2004, 02:47 PM
Can someone tell us if Riccardo commited suicide? Can I make an image of the German ROM and send it to the poor man so he gets his phone working again or is that impossible?
At least he tried we have to help him now for his bravery!

I am not being bad! He has my sympathy! I do consider it a brave thing to do! I hope he is not freaked out by now!

Riccardo
02-12-2004, 02:59 PM
Download Fail
CheckSum Fail

Aia!!

MDA Compact fuked :evil:

Bman
02-12-2004, 03:01 PM
O NO

I will upload the full 256 mb version, if I zip it it's still 23 mb.

By cutting off the zero's I must have changed the checksum..

Hang in there ricardo, uploading new file right now!

Bman
02-12-2004, 03:13 PM
Maybe this one works....

wnpublic
02-12-2004, 03:32 PM
Just an update from my end.... nowicom has not been able to get my the imate update files yet, so i haven't made any progress.

wn

Bman
02-12-2004, 03:39 PM
Hi Will
Did you have a look at the sectordump file?

Riccardo
02-12-2004, 03:42 PM
checksum.. this is the problem

Any idea?

Thanks

Anonymous
02-12-2004, 03:43 PM
Good... we are making progress!!!

I may have a Dopod 818 which is the taiwan version next monday....if I do I can probably upload the rom from that version!

oliver

wnpublic
02-12-2004, 03:47 PM
Hi Will
Did you have a look at the sectordump file?

Yes, I looked at it with a hexeditor, first string is "MAGICIAN" so that looks good. I will play with it some more.

Bman
02-12-2004, 03:50 PM
Riccardo same checksumproblem with new file?

Riccardo
02-12-2004, 04:10 PM
I'm trying it now.

Let me see... :arrow:

Riccardo
02-12-2004, 04:27 PM
Yes, same problem "Not allowed update".

Now I'm trying to change with hex editor but I think I'll have check error again, as I don't know how to recalculate it!!!!!
I'm not programmer so any help would be great!

Cheers

Riccardo
02-12-2004, 04:33 PM
Riccardo same checksumproblem with new file?

Please, let me know how did you extract the ROM to SD and to PC.

Thanks

wnpublic
02-12-2004, 04:37 PM
Riccardo, what method did you use to get the image onto the SD card? XDAtools?

Bman
02-12-2004, 04:40 PM
I'm extracting a new image from the phone.
After that I'm making another image to see if the checksums are the same.

I'm having probblems with reading the sd card, it keeps coming up with unreadable sectors...

Second reason to buy a SD wifi card :)

Riccardo
02-12-2004, 04:50 PM
Riccardo, what method did you use to get the image onto the SD card? XDAtools?

These is what I'm doing:

1. I make SD ROM backup of MDA C. with d2s
2. I use ntrw.exe, to save the content to PC from SD
3. with hex prog. I copy the first bytes from the header of backup file
and I paste them over to the sectordump binary file and I save it
5. with ntrw I write back the ROM onto SD card
6. I put the SD card in Compact and I enter bootloader mode (wait a bit)...
7. press "Power" to flash...

At the end of flashing, it will complain, that "checksum failed" and the device is unusable!

Riccardo
02-12-2004, 05:17 PM
Do I need a same SD Card size?
I'm using a 128MB SD Card, may be is this the checksum problem? :roll:

nowicom
02-12-2004, 05:41 PM
here is the process from nowicom:

first at all: you guys send me more mails in the last 24hours, than i can answer in one life :lol: , so please dont be mad if i dont answer all in right time. Also i had some meetings today so i didnt had much time at all.

Some of you wrote me how to get the ROM from the broken compact, i tryed that now but it wont work- i need a 128MB card for it. Now i have one, tryed it again and the process stops.

I have time tonight, so i will work on it.

I let you know. If you have some ideas, please post it here- thats better than mail :lol:

wnpublic
02-12-2004, 05:55 PM
I let you know. If you have some ideas, please post it here- thats better than mail Laughing

The best thing you could possibly do is to provide the imate rom files you say your developer was working on.

katsj
02-12-2004, 05:55 PM
Sebastian I asked you several times the last couple of days! Are you sure you dont have a clean copy of the original ROM that was send to you?
At the beggining you said that you were working together with HTC and iMate to get an English ROM upgrade and now out all of the sudden you ask for help from all of us.
I dont care if its a cracked ROM or not as long as I can get an english ROM to my MDA Compact and be able to flash it with future upgrades but could you please tell us the whole truth to the people that trusted you?
I understand that no matter what ROM we have on our MDA Compacts you will cover us with the warranty but what's the case? Do you real have iMate and HTC helping you with the ROM? Cause if you do then asking for help from us doesn't sound logical!!!
Please give us a statement with the truth of the whole situation! So we all know the truth and can make up our minds for Nowicom. I would like to be a customer of you in the future but I need the truth and nothing but the truth.
I guess all of us waiting for your answer now!

Riccardo
02-12-2004, 06:08 PM
Evrithing would be much easyer if we can have a original Upgade.exe :shock:

I'm able to see T-mobile splash image with D1.01.00 WWE but device is blocked!

madds
02-12-2004, 06:13 PM
What i understand from nowicom last post is that the only thing they have is a imate jam. And it's broken!
Is this true?
Thank's

madds
02-12-2004, 06:17 PM
Evrithing would be much easyer if we can have a original Upgade.exe :shock:

I'm able to see T-mobile splash image with D1.01.00 WWE but device is blocked!

Did you tried a hard-reset after upgrading???
Some ipaqs require one to boot after a upgrade!

Bman
02-12-2004, 06:21 PM
More and more I believe the existing tools are not working for the MDA compact.
I'm not able to produce the same ROMbackup twice.
Everytime I make a ROMbackup it's a little different.....
Maybe my mini sd card is not suitable or broken.

nowicom
02-12-2004, 06:21 PM
ok :wink:

I dont have a jam, we only have MDA compact here. A friend from Dubai, my programmer know him, made a rom image from a imate, the developer was working on it.

I fired him this morning (coz its the second time he fucked me like that), he also cheats around about giving me the files he have, he tells me he will send me that after he is back home, but he dont do it :( .

The Plan and idea was (the russian guy here told me that) to get the rom image from the broken compact the developer was working on.

Thats what i am trying in the moment...

madds
02-12-2004, 06:22 PM
How can i enter bootloader?

Thank's

nowicom
02-12-2004, 06:24 PM
brake the Software :o :lol: , like we did

no, sorry, just kidding

katsj
02-12-2004, 06:26 PM
Bman did you try another SD card? Is it hard to get one from someone else? Your will to halp us and Ricardo's sacrifice of his MDA Compact seems to be the light at the end of tunnel! Please dont give up guys!
And Sebastian I am sure you can read my previous message and I assure you its better to give us the truth than hiding and only asking for help in here!
Bman and Ricardo thank you for all your efforts!

Bman
02-12-2004, 06:31 PM
GOOD IDEA!
My camera has one!

nowicom
02-12-2004, 06:32 PM
what else you want to know?

Riccardo
02-12-2004, 06:32 PM
Evrithing would be much easyer if we can have a original Upgade.exe :shock:

I'm able to see T-mobile splash image with D1.01.00 WWE but device is blocked!

Did you tried a hard-reset after upgrading???
Some ipaqs require one to boot after a upgrade!
Yes,
no way to make it work.

For Bootloader jest press and hold power, camera buttons and do a soft reset.

Riccardo
02-12-2004, 06:36 PM
what else you want to know?

Seba, have you asked the English ROM to CS?

nowicom
02-12-2004, 06:37 PM
what else you want to know?

Seba, have you asked the English ROM to CS?

i did what`?

Riccardo
02-12-2004, 06:42 PM
what else you want to know?

Seba, have you asked the English ROM to CS?

i did what`?

Don't you know CS Communication Service GMBH, you gave me the phone number once!

nowicom
02-12-2004, 06:47 PM
Aaaaaaah, you are this Riccardo :lol: , hi, i hope you are fine.

No, CS Communication dont have english files yet :(

Riccardo
02-12-2004, 06:55 PM
Aaaaaaah, you are this Riccardo :lol: , hi, i hope you are fine.

No, CS Communication dont have english files yet :(

Yes, it's me! :D

Shit.. I had the suspicion of that!!

kta
02-12-2004, 07:05 PM
I cannot speak on Seb's behalf but I have been in his position a couple of times (I sell computer hardware). Sometimes there are things that you do everyday and take them forgranted. Then one day you try doing the same thing on a similar piece of hardware (or possibly on the same thing) and it doesn't work.

So probably Seb was 100% sure that he will get the English ROM, but to his surprise it didn't. At least he was man enough to offer us (his customers) to send the device back, like I just did today. He is paying for the shipping too. So that's very good service and on my behalf he paid for his "mistake".

(Now it's just a matter of waiting for the money refund Mr. Nowicom :wink: )

katsj
02-12-2004, 07:15 PM
what else you want to know?

Sebastian all I want to know is if my MDA Compact has a failure that would normally my warranty would cover and its flashed with another ROM will you be fixing it?
And second question you seemed to have some help from your distributor in Dubai! If thats the case why dont you ask him to send you the ROMs again? I guess you only have an iMate JAM and no support of any kind from either iMate JAM or HTC. Please clarify that

Riccardo
02-12-2004, 07:24 PM
I've done last try, with out any progress.
I think I need same size of SD image and I've only 128MB Card.

Now I must go home to my family.

Ciao.

nowicom
02-12-2004, 07:30 PM
Yeah, i only have the "support" from the imate Distri in Dubai. He will give me Saturday a new ROm image and he will send me out a english imate saturday too.

He dont have some in stock anymore and he is not in the office till saturday (Friday in Dubai= like Sunday in Europe)

wnpublic
02-12-2004, 07:32 PM
To add a little perspective here:

This is a brand new device, that has barely been released - in fact it hasn't been released in the form most people would like it, as the imate JAM. For the folks who want to take a German-speaking model and make it an English-speaking one, please realize you will be at the bleeding edge. That is cool, because you will have something your friends do not, but it is also risky because you are doing unauthorized things to make it suitable for your use.

Neither t-mobile nor i-mate will help you if something goes wrong. If a reseller makes you a separate guarantee, that is fine if you want to return it, but as you can tell from dealing with mr. nowicom, no matter how nice he is, he and his group cannot provide meaningful technical support for this device. You will be relying on this forum largely for that. That usually works out, but there can be delays and frustrations, and you can't FORCE people here to help you, like you could with a carrier.

Another thing to think about: what you are trying to do here by loading an english ROM onto the German device via SD will only update the OS and extended ROM. You will not updating the Radio stack - it is not possible through this method. If there is a radio stack upgrade you will need to find another way to do that.

Now, that said, if you have a german compact in your hand right now, why not take a deep breath, enjoy it as much as you can in deutsche, and wait for imate to release its first ROM upgrade for the Jam in a few weeks or a month? Show your friends that you're so cool, you have a device that doesn't even speak english yet! I can assure you that, on the basis of what the Devicedata.txt file indicated, you will be able to install a full upgrade from imate, including the radio stack, with a minor amount of twiddling. The process is extremely well documented and simple. And you will have a nice, hacked english rom phone.

Anonymous
02-12-2004, 07:35 PM
Hello Mr. Nowicom,
I just order a MDA Compact from your site (David from France).
I know that you don't have any MDA in stock but I can wait ;-)

I know that is not the real topic but, are you sure you'll get more MDA Compact next week ? ;-)

Thanks for your support here !!

Riff Raff

nowicom
02-12-2004, 07:44 PM
:lol: Yeah, we will, dont worry- but i wont guarantee anymore when we have the english ROM .

itsme
02-12-2004, 08:17 PM
( i have not read most of this thread, just posting some information that may be useful )

this is what i have figured out so far about the htc-magician ( i-mate jam, mda compact )

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianHardwareOverview

i wrote a tool to update the extended rom, but have to build in some safety measures, to prevent people from breaking their device, when using it incorrectly. before i release it to the public.

if i remember correctly the nbf files were not very different from the format used for the blueangel / qtek9090 / xda3.

look for xda3nbftool in the forum.

wnpublic
02-12-2004, 08:31 PM
Thanks itsme.

FYI for the people in this forum, itsme wrote the xda2nbftool (now xda3nbftool) which ended up being THE critical piece of software to get everyone's German MDA3 flashed with the imate PDA2k english ROM. We figured out the header structure of the BlueAngel nbf files and with some modifications to xda2nbftool, were successful in flashing.

This is the tool i was proposing to use to mod the imate .nbf files to get them onto the Compact. Devicedata.txt from the Magician showed a clearly defined header similar in structure to the Blueangel. So far however, no one has come up with the imate's radio.nbf, ms_.nbf, and Nk.nbf files needed to do this.

Anonymous
02-12-2004, 08:32 PM
:lol: Yeah, we will, dont worry- but i wont guarantee anymore when we have the english ROM .

Thanks for being very helpful nowicom. :D I, too, returned mine today. I would have loved to kept it but understandably with no English ROM yet, returned it today. I, like kta, appreciate what nowicom is trying to do (correcting their mistake). But, I definitely can't continue to spend all my time checking this forum to see if my new pda-phone-toy is going to be in English today or not. :wink:

I, too, am waiting on refund. The device should reach you guys by Monday. Thanks for your help and good luck in the future. You seem to be trying to do the right thing which will eventually help your business.

Anonymous
02-12-2004, 08:40 PM
@wnpublic
I have a "newbe" question : is there a process to extract the 3 rom files from an NL t-mobile compact with an english rom ?

mikewchandler
02-12-2004, 08:53 PM
:lol: Yeah, we will, dont worry- but i wont guarantee anymore when we have the english ROM .

Thanks for being very helpful nowicom. :D I, too, returned mine today. I would have loved to kept it but understandably with no English ROM yet, returned it today. I, like kta, appreciate what nowicom is trying to do (correcting their mistake). But, I definitely can't continue to spend all my time checking this forum to see if my new pda-phone-toy is going to be in English today or not. :wink:

I, too, am waiting on refund. The device should reach you guys by Monday. Thanks for your help and good luck in the future. You seem to be trying to do the right thing which will eventually help your business.

Crap. I guess I wasn't logged in. Sorry.

katsj
03-12-2004, 09:26 AM
I've done last try, with out any progress.
I think I need same size of SD image and I've only 128MB Card.

Now I must go home to my family.

Ciao.
Riccardo did you manage to get your MDA working again?

katsj
03-12-2004, 10:10 AM
@NOWICOM

Sebastian can you please send the ROM files as soon as you get them from your Dubai distributor to wnpublic? He seems to be the only one that is capable of solving our problem.

Regards,
katsj

Wiz
03-12-2004, 10:53 AM
I have posted the full ROM dump (to a 256Mb SD card) on ftp.xda-developers.com / Magician ... zipped 170Mb

Riccardo
03-12-2004, 11:15 AM
I've done last try, with out any progress.
I think I need same size of SD image and I've only 128MB Card.

Riccardo did you manage to get your MDA working again?

Yes, no problem with the MDA is still working (I made a Backup of OS image).

katsj
03-12-2004, 11:31 AM
I've done last try, with out any progress.
I think I need same size of SD image and I've only 128MB Card.

Riccardo did you manage to get your MDA working again?

Yes, no problem with the MDA is still working (I made a Backup of OS image).

As far as I can remember you had a German OS right? Do you mean that you managed to change it in English? How did you get the backup? Can I make a backup of my German ROM so I can try flashing and if I am in trouble I can get the German ROM back? Please tell us Riccardo!

kta
03-12-2004, 03:14 PM
katsj, I think he means that he had a backup of the German ROM and he re-installed that.

Latest news from expansys are that they had their stock released and are waiting for the flight details. If that's the case, I will have a JAM in English available next week. I would be glad to help in any possible way.

Although probably I wouldn't be the only one :lol:

katsj
03-12-2004, 03:32 PM
Thanks kta I would appreciate it so muc if you could help me to flash my German MDA Compact with an Ebglish ROM! :wink:

Anonymous
03-12-2004, 03:43 PM
Thanks kta I would appreciate it so muc if you could help me to flash my German MDA Compact with an Ebglish ROM! :wink:

For to do a backup follow the instructions:

-make a backup of your device with xbackup (it is a program in your MDA Compact).
-insert a sd card on your device,
-press and hold power and camera button and do a soft reset (you will see unlighted screen with some words and number)
-connect your device to your PC with the USB cable and disable USB on Active sync
-run MTTY.exe and select USB
-press enter, type d2s and press enter again (these command should backup ROM in to SD)
-when finish (you'll see it by device display) get the SD and insert it to a cards reader
-for to copy the file in SD Card to your PC you have to use NTRW and run it with this command: c:/ntrw read MDAc.nb1 x: (x is your card reader so replace with the letter of your card reader and have NTRW in C:)
-after that you should have in C: a file called MDAc.nb1

Hope this's helpfull

Anonymous
03-12-2004, 04:10 PM
Yes but we need also the radio rom and the extended rom backups and we don't know how do this ?

Wiz
03-12-2004, 04:21 PM
The radio rom should not be necessary, it's language independent. The extended rom can be found here as a separate download for you to install manually. The OS is the only thing you need I would say.

katsj
03-12-2004, 05:42 PM
The MMS Composer for example is in Extended ROM and its in German! So we do need the extended ROM as well! I guess you people will sort this out too :wink:

madds
03-12-2004, 05:48 PM
Someone with a english rom can give you that at any time.

Riccardo
03-12-2004, 06:25 PM
MDA Compact from German to English possible?

YES YES YES! YEAAAAAAA :D

SD image is in:
ftp://xda:xda@forum.xda-developers.com/Magician
and look for R_Magican.rar (1 hour left)

You should be able to flash you German MDA Compact (only OS imsage) to English!
When done it the device will tell you chek sum fail but jest reset and wait few second.

PS. You have to use a 256MB card i think.

Many thanks from gibbo and myself to Wiz for SD image!

digger
03-12-2004, 06:49 PM
Riccardo, does that mean you've done it, German to English?????? Damn it, I dont have a 256MB card, only 128 and 512

Can you give some step by step instructions for those of us who don't know what they are doing?? And can you confirm everything work, no SIM lock etc...


And finally, do you mean Magician.zip or R_Magician.rar cos there isn't a R_Magician.zip. Many thanks!

Riccardo
03-12-2004, 07:11 PM
Riccardo, does that mean you've done it, German to English?????? Damn it, I dont have a 256MB card, only 128 and 512

Can you give some step by step instructions for those of us who don't know what they are doing?? And can you confirm everything work, no SIM lock etc...


And finally, do you mean Magician.zip or R_Magician.r cos there isn't a R_Magician.zip. Many thanks!

Yes, no SIM lock etc...
For some step by step instructions look on Magican forum section.

I must go home! I spent all day for this! with good result!

Anonymous
03-12-2004, 07:57 PM
Are these the correct steps? Thought I should save people some time looking in the forums

How to flash CE ROM image on SD card to the device?

1. Insert SD card to the device

2. Enter bootloader mode by pressing down power button and soft reset at the same time

3. Press Action button to start SD flashing

4. Message indicates SD flashing is finished. Again, the device needs to be hard reset to ensure the old version is being overwritten.

Anonymous
03-12-2004, 07:58 PM
Are these the correct steps? Thought I should save people some time looking in the forums

How to flash CE ROM image on SD card to the device?

1. Insert SD card to the device

2. Enter bootloader mode by pressing down power button and soft reset at the same time

3. Press Action button to start SD flashing

4. Message indicates SD flashing is finished. Again, the device needs to be hard reset to ensure the old version is being overwritten.

That was me! Forgot to log in :roll:

kta
03-12-2004, 07:59 PM
Are these the correct steps? Thought I should save people some time looking in the forums

How to flash CE ROM image on SD card to the device?

1. Insert SD card to the device

2. Enter bootloader mode by pressing down power button, camera button and soft reset at the same time

3. Press Action button to start SD flashing

4. Message indicates SD flashing is finished. Again, the device needs to be hard reset to ensure the old version is being overwritten.

That was me! Forgot to log in :roll:

TWICE !!!! :oops:

Anonymous
03-12-2004, 09:21 PM
i press soft reset and power and no bootloader screen,is tha correct?Also it is correct that i have to flash the phone with the 156mb file.i think rom capacity of the phone is much lower.Is there any link that i can see more exact instruction for backing up my german rom to have a restoration and antibricking availability.
Thanks

kta
03-12-2004, 11:34 PM
You have to press the power button and the camera button as well while pressing the reset switch.

digger
03-12-2004, 11:35 PM
I think you get to the bootloader by pressing and hold power and camera button and do a soft reset. - damn it Kta just beat me to it :-)

Also, the file I downloaded was 143MB.... do we have the same file (R_magician.rar)?

Is there any way this can be used on a 512MB card?

Anonymous
04-12-2004, 12:12 AM
my file is the same name but 152mb and after i unzip it i cant fit it into my sd card.. any help?

digger
04-12-2004, 12:13 AM
When I try extracting the RAR I get a CRC error message... looks like it may be corrupt :(

digger
04-12-2004, 12:23 AM
Guest: how are you trying to copy the nb1 file to the SD card? Are you using NTRW?

Anonymous
04-12-2004, 12:50 AM
i made it with ntrw but still cant flash

iMAT
04-12-2004, 01:48 AM
Hello.

I have some questions:

Did you need to use ACTIVESYNC ??
which file do you recommend. .zip or .rar ??


Than u , and congratulations by the ROM

katsj
04-12-2004, 01:53 AM
Riccardo can you tell us how many bytes should we copy from our German ROM header to the english ROM header? It seems that some of us cannot flash your ROM cause we probably have a different header that your german header!

katsj
04-12-2004, 06:35 AM
THIS IS CRAZY 7MBs BEFORE FINISHING THE DOWNLOAD AND THE FILE IS GONE!!!!! :evil: :twisted:

Anonymous
04-12-2004, 06:46 AM
there is noting with ftp://xda:xda@forum.xda-developers.com/Magician
where can i download it? :(

27
04-12-2004, 06:53 AM
You'll getit here temporarily.
Please make copies and host it elsewhere as I'm not sure how long Insomnia can host it.
http://www.cleardirection.co.uk/images/downloads/R_magician.rar

katsj
04-12-2004, 06:56 AM
The lik isnt dead but its 117MBs and not 156MBs like the other one!!!!!!
Are you sure its not a fake?

Anonymous
04-12-2004, 07:12 AM
yes,moment it´s not dead,and can be downloaded with a very highspeed!

katsj
04-12-2004, 07:23 AM
27 please tell us is it the correct file? It seems to be smaller than the one on XDA Developers FTP! Did you download and use succesfully that file?

harlemyin
04-12-2004, 08:00 AM
27 please tell us is it the correct file? It seems to be smaller than the one on XDA Developers FTP! Did you download and use succesfully that file?
ok, u are right. it´s not the right thing. can be not unziped!
warning of winrar: unkonwn end of the file!
should be demage

harlemyin
04-12-2004, 08:04 AM
and i saw a new folder appears in ftp://xda:xda@forum.xda-developers.com/Magician
guss someone is uploading the file ringht now

digger
04-12-2004, 08:21 AM
OK, I can make it available for a little while, although I am not sure how quick the download will be... but get it while you can (this one does decompress correctly!!):

link now removed - see post further down

Now form an orderly queue please, one at a time :)

katsj
04-12-2004, 08:35 AM
It seems busy and unable to download from that! :(
Mr. Nowicom can you get it in your server I think you own us some bandwidth! :lol:

digger
04-12-2004, 08:42 AM
I'm only on a 512mbit broadband link and right now it is rather busy :wink:

I still can't test the upgrade as I need to get a 256mb SD card. So I hope someone can test and report back ASAP.

skeye
04-12-2004, 08:48 AM
Digger, can you copy the files to my ftp, i will leave it available for all.
ftp://webpanelxda:webpanel@webpanel.ru[/url]

digger
04-12-2004, 08:57 AM
skeye, uploading now... but don't hold your breath, it estimates just over 10 hours :shock: Wait, that has just dropped to 4 hours :?

Anonymous
04-12-2004, 09:47 AM
i manage to download the correct? file yesterday from xda,s server (156mb) the r_magician.rar.I copy it to my 256 sd card using NTRW tol.I insert the card in the mda press power camera soft reset and i take a screen says serial v1,00 and nothing else except Once i took a message says -serial region :1 update not allowed but only once.I try reinserting sd reinstalling the image on sd pressing some buttons but nothing changed. Is anyone can give some help?

digger
04-12-2004, 09:50 AM
guest, i remember reading that you have to press the action button to kick things off, try that and let us know

27
04-12-2004, 09:54 AM
27 please tell us is it the correct file? It seems to be smaller than the one on XDA Developers FTP! Did you download and use succesfully that file?

Haven't tried it yet.
Don't have the PDA yet.

Anonymous
04-12-2004, 10:22 AM
i press action but nothing happened.i cant see the message sd update i saw once
:x

Riccardo
04-12-2004, 11:55 AM
128Mb SD Card image has been loaded.

Look for R_Magica.rar

Why and who has eliminated the file previously loaded?

Remember for to get into bootloader you've to press and hold, power and camera button and in the meantime do a soft reset.

Also probably you need to prepare your SD Card with previous d2s download to SD card (that can be used as B.up of your original OS).

PS. The OS image has included the Extended ROM too!

More informations here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=13452&highlight=
http://www.xda-italia.com/modules.php?name=News&new_topic=5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=2110&highlight=mtty
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4557&highlight=bootloader+commands
http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/bl-ii-usage.html

Anonymous
04-12-2004, 12:04 PM
Riccardo: Is it possible to use the new image on a 256MB SD?
What's the exacr process for flashing this rom?

Thanks
SysRq

katsj
04-12-2004, 12:09 PM
Riccardo can I ntrw the 128MB image in a 256MB sd card?

digger
04-12-2004, 12:35 PM
after getting my rom image onto an SD card and using ntrw to copy it to my machine i see the following message:

125960192 bytes written bytes: 0
ReadFile(): MDAc.nb1 -- The parameter is incorrect

Is this normal, what have I done wrong?

Anonymous
04-12-2004, 01:08 PM
guest, i remember reading that you have to press the action button to kick things off, try that and let us know

Have done this and now get error on MDA.

SD Download

Sections = 1
Not allow update !


Anyone have other ideas ?

Anonymous
04-12-2004, 01:09 PM
Getting same error. Riccardo, please help!

/SysRq

Anonymous
04-12-2004, 01:54 PM
Yes! It worked!

You have to copy the first bytes from your backup though.
Use a hexeditor and replace 00000000-0000019F.
You still get checksum error, but do a hardreset and it works.

/SysRq

katsj
04-12-2004, 02:16 PM
Yes just copy the header of your rom backup to Riccardo's ROM and it will be fine! I fixed mine too!
I also got the tools you need to backup your ROM so you can get the header of your german ROM in the Tools Directory where riccardo copied his ROM just check the ftp again!

27
04-12-2004, 04:31 PM
So it's working then?

katsj
05-12-2004, 02:21 PM
YES ITS WORKING HERE IS THE PROCEDURE YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW STEP BY STEP IN ORDER TO FLASH THE ENGLISH ROM:

UPGRADING TO ENGLISH

Tools needed:

1. romupdate.exe also know as mtty.exe (saved to your C:\ (root directory)
2. ntrw.exe (version 2.0) (saved to your C:\ (root directory)
3. SD Card Reader for your PC
4. SD Memory card at least 128MB
5. A HEX editor

Procedure:

Step 1 - Backing up your current German ROM
Make sure you backup your German ROM for 2 reasons. Firstly, because you will need the first 220bytes of your German ROM in order to be able to flash your MDA Compact with the WWE (English) ROM, and secondly, because you might need it either for flashing your phone in case of a malfunction so you can send it back under warranty with the original ROM, or for helping you to flash future upgrades.
Backing up your German ROM can be done by connecting your Compact to the PC through the data cable when you first uncheck the USB connection of active sync.
If your MDA connects with active sync because you didn't uncheck the USB connection in the active sync connection settings then you will not be able to backup your ROM to an SD memory card.
1. Before connecting your MDA you should bring it into the boot loader mode. This can be done by simultaneously pressing power + camera buttons and at the same time the soft reset button with the stylus.
2. After connecting your MDA to the PC through the USB in boot loader mode and having your SD card inserted into the MDA, you run romupdate.exe.
3. Then choose the USB connection in the connection settings of romupdate.exe window and click on ok. After that a terminal window will popup in that window.
4. Type d2s and press enter. Your MDA will start copying the ROM to the sd card. The screen of your MDA will be dark (no light), but you will see it counting up to 100%. When it reaches 100% it will say it is calculating the checksum. Give it some time till its done and it will say checksum ok.
5. After finishing the transfer of the German ROM from your MDA to the SD card, put your SD card into an SD card reader connected to your pc. Your pc might pop up a warning message that says your SD Card is not formatted would you like to format? Click No and open a Command prompt (DOS) window.
6. Change directory to your root directory (cd c:\) and run the command ntrw read German.nb1 x: where x is the drive letter of your sd card. That command will create the ROM Backup file of your German ROM into your C drive root directory by the name of German.nb1. Make sure you keep German.nb1 in a safe place and use a copy of that file for the rest of the procedure. Note that after finishing the copy from your SD card to German.nb1 file ntrw might give you an error, just don’t pay attention to it.

Step 2 - Fixing Ricardo’s English ROM file so that it can be flashed to your MDA Compact:
Some people complained that Ricardo’s ROM could not be flashed to their MDAs. That’s because MDA Compact's ROM seems to have a different header each time. What you have to do is:
1. Open your copy of the German ROM file with a HEX editor and copy the first 416 bytes (it starts with the word Magician),
2. Then open Ricardo’s English ROM file and overwrite the first 416 bytes of Ricardo’s ROM with the first 416bytes of your German ROM.
3. Then save Ricardo’s ROM with the replaced header by your German ROM and you have a flashable ROM file.

Step 3 - Transferring you English ROM File from your hard disk to the sd card:
1. Get the fixed Ricardo’s ROM file to your C drive root directory run the command ntrw write fixed.nb1 x: in the command prompt window where fixed.nb1 is the filename of Ricardo’s fixed ROM and x the SD card drive letter. Wait till it finishes and move to the final step.

Step 4 - Flashing the English ROM to your MDA:
1. Put your SD card into your MDA and get your MDA to boot loader mode again (power+camera+reset buttons). On your unlighted screen you will see it says serial wait and after some seconds it will say (Press Power to flash).
2. Do as it says and it will start flashing. When your MDA reaches 100% flashing, it will check the checksum. Don't worry about the message Checksum failed - Flashing failed and soft reset your MDA.
Well that's it! You have a sim-unlocked MDA compact with an English (WWE) OS.
The tools needed are also available at ftp://xda:xda@forum.xda-developers.com/Magician I uploaded them yesterday!

ITS VITAL THAT YOU COMPLETE ALL THE STEPS AND NOT JUST FLASH RICCARDO's ROM AS IT IS!!!!

madds
05-12-2004, 02:51 PM
hi
i always get: "Usage ntrw file drive:" when i try to copy the german rom from sd to harddrive using "ntrw read German.nb1 g:"

Any help! thank's

katsj
05-12-2004, 03:51 PM
hi
i always get: "Usage ntrw file drive:" when i try to copy the german rom from sd to harddrive using "ntrw read German.nb1 g:"

Any help! thank's

thats because you have the wrong version of ntrw! Download the one I uploaded in the FTP server under the tools directory!

Anonymous
05-12-2004, 04:29 PM
I downloaded the one from the ftp site and get the same problem...

digger
05-12-2004, 04:53 PM
You guys really are the best!!!

Thanks so much to everyone who has worked on this, I was starting to think about returning my compact but have just successfully flashed it and now I understand everything.

A round of beers to you all!!

skeye
05-12-2004, 05:52 PM
Here is the rom which is NOT REQUARED ANY CHANGES with hex.
Download and read the instruction inside the archive.
This rom is english unlocked, whithout any errors and dosn't contain Riccardo's backup ;-)

http://www.webpanel.ru/EngCompactRom.ZIP

BTW, you can buy already english compacts in Moscow (webpanel.ru), of course we can deliver compacts to the aeroport ;-)

Anonymous
05-12-2004, 08:25 PM
Here is the rom which is NOT REQUARED ANY CHANGES with hex.
Download and read the instruction inside the archive.
This rom is english unlocked, whithout any errors and dosn't contain Riccardo's backup ;-)

http://www.webpanel.ru/EngCompactRom.ZIP

BTW, you can buy already english compacts in Moscow (webpanel.ru), of course we can deliver compacts to the aeroport ;-)

Has anyone tested this with a sim-locked MDA Compact from T-Mobile (The Netherlands)? Will this unlock the device?

pntzamaras
05-12-2004, 09:14 PM
i want to know if the sd card has to be of specific capacity. I have 1gb sandisk, and i always get the message serial v1.00, and stops right there :cry:

Wiz
05-12-2004, 09:30 PM
Hmmm The file downloaded correctly, and putting it on my 256Mb SD card was no problem. However, after putting the MDA Compact in bootloader mode (camera+power+reset), on my locked Dutch MDA Compact it says:

SD Download
========
Sections=1
Not allow
update!

It does not work on my MDA Compact, no new ROM is installed

Nick-II
05-12-2004, 09:42 PM
As I know from story of that rom since Saturday you should use 256 SD card. :lol: For me it is 50% left till finish of download so i will see and inform was it OK with 256 SD or not.

katsj
05-12-2004, 10:27 PM
Hmmm The file downloaded correctly, and putting it on my 256Mb SD card was no problem. However, after putting the MDA Compact in bootloader mode (camera+power+reset), on my locked Dutch MDA Compact it says:

SD Download
========
Sections=1
Not allow
update!

It does not work on my MDA Compact, no new ROM is installed

READ MY STEP BY STEP GUIDE IN PAGE 9 OF THIS THREAD! YOU HAVE TO BACKUP YOUR GERMAN ROM AND COPY AND OVERWRITE THE HEADER (FIRST 220bytes) TO THE ENGLISH ROM AND THEN TRY TO FLASH THAT "FIXED" ROM!!!!!!

Wiz
05-12-2004, 10:37 PM
Hmm ... I did do that. I did copy the first 220 bytes from the old onto the new with ultraedit32, but it still says

SD Download
Sections=1
Not allow
update!

Nick-II
05-12-2004, 11:18 PM
Strange, I did everything as it was written in webpanel.ru instruction, but the same result: Update not allowed!!! It is double time strange because I bought my Compact from those guys, so I suppose to have exactly the same German ROM model. Any one can inform about successful ROM update from webpanels file? By the way, original German ROM saves and updates without any problem. :roll:

Nick-II
06-12-2004, 12:02 AM
So far so good! After one try to update my Compact to English it stopped to go to boot loader. Now after 3 button push I see Serial v 1.00 and nothing more. Pushing action button is useless. Can anyone explain what to do next? How to make that thing loading again? The more I recognize MDA Compact the much I like my good old MDA II. I am really disappointed, especially with longevity of battery life. :evil:

katsj
06-12-2004, 01:34 AM
So far so good! After one try to update my Compact to English it stopped to go to boot loader. Now after 3 button push I see Serial v 1.00 and nothing more. Pushing action button is useless. Can anyone explain what to do next? How to make that thing loading again? The more I recognize MDA Compact the much I like my good old MDA II. I am really disappointed, especially with longevity of battery life. :evil:
You must be joking!!!!!! MDA II has a better battery than compact?????
And you have to wait about 10 seconds after it says serial to give you the message "push power button to flash"

madds
06-12-2004, 01:37 AM
HI,
i get a rom is not enough after a minute when trying to upgrade Riccardo's rom image with the header modified.
Any help?

Nick-II
06-12-2004, 01:55 AM
As I see, I am the only crazy to keep f...g with MDA at this hour instead of sleeping. So, I fixed the boot loader after repeating the procedure of ROM backup to SD with MTTY. After that it started to load again. (No explanation just magic) I tried to load ROM file from webpanel to MDA few times with no effect. After that I replaced first 220b of WP ROM with 220b from my German backup ROM – same effect! NOT ALLOW UPDATE! Now I am downloading Ricardos file and will see if it works. If any of you guys can help me with advice I would be much appreciated. And some advice to webpanel.ru: Before you are happy to sell more MDAs, first provide your customers with adequate support, do not hurry to claim that you solved the problem, at least I spent 4 hours with your file for nothing! :evil:

Nick-II
06-12-2004, 02:11 AM
Katsj I tried, but it was instantly dead no replies after 2 minutes. It finished after I backup ROM again. Concerning battery I suppose it is only my MDA because friend of mine with Compacts has no such a problem. Concerning MDA, II it was very dependable from ROM version. 172 was more power eating. I was using MDA II as a main phone device 24 / 7. But what is good about Compact is Blue tooth with Car BT and Headphone. Works just perfect. Do you have any ideas why I can not flash English ROM to my devise (I use 256 SD) ?

katsj
06-12-2004, 02:23 AM
Riccardo's file worked with all my friend's compacts! One of my friends had to ntrw the sd for a second time and it was ok! I guess there are some fawlty SD cards out there! And you definately need a 256MB one for flashing! I use a Lexar X32 256MB and it worked fine!
Just try to do the procedure again! it will be ok! I am sure! I know 11 people up to know that followed my step by step guide with riccardo's ROM and they all made it to the english version! As for webpanel.ru I know no one that managed to flash that rom succesfully!

Nick-II
06-12-2004, 02:57 AM
Katsj, I use 256 SD 45X from TOSHIBA it works perfect when I backup and restore original German ROM, so it should be perfect with Riccardo ROM too! To get it I left 3 hours before the end of download! Dial UP is not the fastest internet even with 45.2 speed. Can you refresh my memory if there is no extended ROM in Riccardo file? Where can find extended ROM of Jam. Because now I use some self made mix EXT ROM from Blue Angels, Jam and German Compact, but I need original EXT ROM of JAM. :D

digger
06-12-2004, 09:19 AM
@ katsj, mine flashed perfectly using riccardo's image on a 128MB card after replacing the first 220 bytes from my own ROM backup

Nick-II
06-12-2004, 10:17 AM
It’s alive! It’s aliiiive! It’s aliiiiiiiiive! OK finally I made it, now it’s English, including EXT ROM. But the only one remark to the procedure of flashing. As it was mentioned before in page 9 you should replace 416 bytes but not 220 it is from 00000000 to 00000190. After flashing it really gives message Update fail, but hard reset cures everything. Now I am going to flash my friends MDAs because they already got me with their phone calls: when, when, is it done, can you make it English?? Great thanks to Katsj and all other people who gave us opportunity not study German language. Barrel of bear from us to you guys! :)

vpreHoose
06-12-2004, 10:17 AM
Be nice to see if nowicom can commercialise it (and break the Microsoft licence agreement, warenty terms and terratory agreement).

For sure they are NOT being supported by anyone legitimately involved in getting the real devices to market.

I very much doubt that if they do sell this comercally they will ever recieve stock (German or English) ever again.

pntzamaras
06-12-2004, 10:28 AM
It has worked for me too!!! :D
And with a 1gb sd card!!! :D
Thank you all

Anonymous
06-12-2004, 10:37 AM
first 416 bytes seems to be working for me too... flashing now...

katsj
06-12-2004, 10:39 AM
I am glad you managed to flash it too! Isn't it nice in English? :lol: