Physical difference between XDA II and XDA IIs re car mounts

[pvbutler]

Newbie question maybe but did do some searches first and couldn't locate any info.

I have just bought XDA IIs and I'm looking for a car mount for it. There are plenty out there for the XDA II but not yet for the XDA IIs, is there any physical diffeence between the bottom of these units, i.e the connecting/charging port.

Ideally I want one that will also charge the PDA and a GPS unit when I eventually get one. I have seen a Carcomm holder/charger for the XDA II that looks good but unsure if it's suitable. (available from TotalPDA, their product ref 4738)

Effectively two questions here as I try to solve one problem, any advise appreciated.

Cheers :lol:

[dtidmore]

The position, general design and connector pinouts for the bottom port are identical from the first Wallaby to the new Blue Angel, BUT the physical connector on the Blue Angel (XDAIIs, MDAIII, SX66) has a slight alteration from the connector in previous generations. There is a small keying protrusion on one side of the Blue Angel accessory port. Several owners of Blue Angels have been forcing the older type connectors into the Blue Angel and while the pinouts and connectors themselves mate up, doing this places mechanical strain on the connector in the Blue Angel as it has a mating protrusion that normally would fit into the keyway on the plug, but now is mechanically forced outward. Over time, this has a strong potential for damaging the connector on the Blue Angel.

Check out this thread as it has pictures of what I am describing http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12092

So, at this time, I have not found ANY Blue Angel specific accessories(ie designed to mate with the newer connector). In time these surely will appear. In the meantime, a little work with a Dremel tool can create the keyway in the plugs on older generation accessories and doing so will no harm those accessories but it WILL protect the connector in the Blue Angel.

BTW, I have both the first gen and the last gen, so I have accessories whose connector will have to be modified

david

[lampard]

I am still using a Clic on car kit I had for my Ipaq 5550, i purchased a new cable when I got the XDA2, and then used some black hard foam on the cradle, as the xda2 was a little thinner. Then when upgrading to the XDA2s, it used the same connection, and fit just as snug.

[rajeshr]

Seidio is supposed to be releasing a car kit for the PDA2K sometime this month. Check out http://www.seidioonline.com/

Rajesh

[gideonkay]

Brodit supply one - in the UK use handnav.co.uk :

http://www.handnav.co.uk/search_results.php?brand_only=true&st=Brodit

or on brodit :

http://w3.easytrade.net/brodit_shop/product.dip?item=1244372&fid=1244565

I use this and it works fine.

You need a car specific ProClip also from same website.

[howardfb]

Hi, I have just purchased an Arkon car mount from ebay at £29.99 + £5 p&p. It has power and plugs for GPS I am using a Holux Bluetooth that I am powering from the auxillary power port on the unit, it has sockets for hard wire GPS receivers as well and a buit in amplified speaker. Go into ebay and key in XDA car mount. The same unit was £55 on Tottenham Court Road, I will say though that the power conector to the IIs was stiff so the previous guy saying about the difference is probably correct. Will get the Dremil out tonight.

[pvbutler]

Thanks for all the replies, I have now ordered an Arkon CM532 from E-bay and feel (fairly) confident of modifying the connecter to suit my XDA IIs as required.

:D

Merry Xmas to you all.

[cchris]

I read here that it was unacceptable...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=13654&start=0

how do you deal with it?

[pvbutler]

As it turns out I didn't order a mount as an e-bay company i had already approached came back saying they were hoping to release a specific mount for the XDAIIs around about now.

I've just e-mailed them to see if they've got them in yet.

[cchris]

Chris

[Mr_Gadget]

Hi Guys, I've been using my Arkon CM531 (made for the o2 XDA II) fine with my new o2 XDA IIs. This is a relief as it means that I won't have to dish out more money! Whoo hoo!

[Dingo]

I use a mag mount kit which is £8.99 at PDA Mods http://www.pdamods.com/proddetail.asp?prod=WSMMOUNT&cat=23

On the XDAII i put the small metel plate supplied under the back cover and that works perfectly. In the XDAIIs there is no battery cover so i have ordered a proprota alu-leather case http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=978&t_mode=des
which has a magnetic mount built in. I have not received it yet.

I then use a Wired GPS that i brought from PDA Mods for the XDAII. This also powers the XDAII. This fits and works perfectly in the XDAIIs.

If you have both devices and look closely at the XDAII & XDAIIs sockets there is a slight difference on the XDAIIs. But this is backward compatable. IE you can use any connector desiged for the XDAII on the XDAIIs but you can not use a connector designed specifically for the XDAIIs in the XDAII.

Just take a look at your power dongle for the XDAIIs it WILL NOT fit your XDAII. Strangely though on the cradle they fitted a backward compatible connector and not a XDAIIs specific one. So you can plug your XDAII into the XDAIIs cradle.