KikkerDialer- a new dialer available for Magician (Freeware)

[Anonymous]

Hi all,

We just released a new dialer (freeware) which you can download from Handango. You can download from

http://www.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?productId=152403

Features included in KikkerDialer are:

- The most advanced number dialing system which allows for entry by number panel or keyboard, editing, insertion, copy / paste, etc
- Intuitive and simple UI providing the main functions of a phone such as contacts, dial, access to special characters (e.g. the + sign for international dialing)
- A user interface for selecting contacts which mimicks the most intuitive methods for selecting contacts such as those used within standard mobile phones such as Nokia, Sony Ericsson, etc
- Synchronisation with contacts database (mobile, work, home)
- Extremely fast and responsive to use
- Access to the Windows Mobile clipboard for copy / paste

Feedback welcomed. Enjoy.

Kikker Interactive

[tc08]

I'm sorry, but I really don't see what is so special about this software. Maybe I have got it wrong, but I would say that D9 is better than this, and PhonePlus is much better. I don't want to scroll to the letter J every time I want to call my friend John, and so on.

Copy and paste is nice, but where is the T9 contact selection as in D) and PhonePlus, I think that is a great feature.

The fact that this diealer resembles old standard GSM phones is of no interest.

Sorry for only giving bad feedback, but then again, I might haven't found the cool features.

[Anonymous]

First comment - good to see another free dialer out there given what shipped with the jam.

ave only tried this for abt 15 minutes but like it very much so far. Is a lot faster than D9 (my only complaint with that software – I have ~ 1,000 contacts in my jam and the UI is v unresponsive). The thing I like with this new dialer too is the editable text field which seems to be missing on most other apps out there. The ability to edit a number before a call (e.g. insert +44 if not already in international prefix), insert a digit when you have entered incorrectly, etc is just what I was after. Would be nice to see call history in there too btw.

[J10DA]

Intuitive and simple UI providing the main functions of a phone such as contacts, dial, access to special characters (e.g. the + sign for international dialing) --->Cool... :wink:

[Carlis]

Crashed on my WWE Qtek S100 .. when I try to call ..

:(

Carlis

[Anonymous]

Hi Carlis,

In the first few hours of release, the first installer required you to have OpenNETCF on your device. It seems not so many people have this so we fixed this issue and now you no longer need this on your device.

You should uninstall the KikkerDialer and run the the new installer file (now setup.exe - ~2MB), downloadable from the same location at Handango. Please give this a go and let us know if any probs - support@kikkerinteractive.com

Best rgds,

Kikker Interactive

[tc08]

I'm surprised all of you think different than me, but I will give it another try, I guess. I still don't think it can compare with PhonePlus with all the features it has, but then again it's freware.

/T

[ZeroXtreme]

Cant downlod the Setup.exe, it still downloads the setup.msi, is this the right version? I'm getting the same crash. Can someone post it here?

[iggy]

Cant downlod the Setup.exe, it still downloads the setup.msi, is this the right version? I'm getting the same crash. Can someone post it here?

for me the download link does not work at all. Page cannot be displayed.

[718]

Well, I downloaded the MSI-file from handandgo. Now in can run on my T-Mobile MDA Compact but when I try to dial, it crashes:
KikkerDialer.exe
TypeLoadException
Failed to load type OpenNETCF.Notification.Led from OpenNETCF.Notification, Version=1.2.3346.0, Culture-neutral, PublicKey Token= 30C767B29D52D6E6
Can it be fixed? I wanted to test this application concerning tone dial (DTMF sending).

[Carlis]

Hi Carlis,

In the first few hours of release, the first installer required you to have OpenNETCF on your device. It seems not so many people have this so we fixed this issue and now you no longer need this on your device.

You should uninstall the KikkerDialer and run the the new installer file (now setup.exe - ~2MB), downloadable from the same location at Handango. Please give this a go and let us know if any probs - support@kikkerinteractive.com

Best rgds,

Kikker Interactive


Hi
Thank´s for the answer...
but .. hm .. its not an exe on the same location .. its still the MSI .. :(

Carlis

[Anonymous]

ZeroXtreme, 718 & Carlis - Our apologies - we actually meant to the setup.MSI - the file you see up there is the right one (it is not an .exe).

However, seems some of you are still getting a runtime issue on your devices. We suspect this is due to a missing DLL - but cannot replicate your issue right this moment. We've just received some more devices now tho and are retesting. Will post a response here shortly. Feel free to email us directly in the meantime.

Iggy - the handango site must have been having problems. You should try again.

Kikker Interactive

[skagen]

Beta testing - never easy. I'm having enough trouble and bugs beta testing Mobi Dial 2.5 right now, so I'll think I'll pass on this one. Someone let me know when there actually is a legit, ergonomically competent and STABLE replacement dialer out there. :D

[Anonymous]

OK thank you all for your patience.

Our new devices arrived and we were able to replicate the issue that some of you were having. This has now been solved with a new version of the setup.msi (now named setup_20050202.msi as Handango doesn't seem to allow overwriting).

You can either download the new app from Handango (http://www.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?productId=152403) or we've also hosted it at http://69.20.6.190/KikkerDialer/setup_20050202.msi for your convenience.

If you don't want to go through the process of download + installing the 2MB file again, there is an easier way for those of you who already have the previous version installed. Please follow the steps here:

1. Quit the KikkerDialer
2. Download two dll's http://69.20.6.190/KikkerDialer/OpenNETCF.Notification.dll and http://69.20.6.190/KikkerDialer/OpenNETCF.Phone.dll
3. Copy both files to \Program Files\KikkerDialer on your device (or wherever you installed the dialer)
4. Restart the app

Any problems - please let us know. Again, apologies for the false start for some of you. From those who were not affected however, we had some v positive feedback and to repay all your efforts, will add some more features within the next few weeks :)

Kikker Interactive

[718]

Yes, with the dlls you provided the program starts okay. However, I failed to dial DTMF tones. Sometimes it is necessary to dial extention or enter a PIN-code. Such a pitty! :cry:

[Carlis]

Exelent .. thx.. it now works on a Swedish WWE Qtek s100 without need of the extra dll´s ..

Only thing that is missing .. DTMF codes .. to use bank transactions and so..

When they ask for my account nr .. and I press the keys.. nothing happends..

And finaly .. how to replace the old dailer hardware keys.. Green and Red phone keys to be using Ur dailer.. it still actiavte the old one..

Best Regards Carlis

[Anonymous]

Hi - ok glad we got all the installer issues cleared up.

Yep - DTMF tones are not supported currently. As users of the software, here is what we do:

- Make the call using KikkerDialer
- When prompted to enter PIN (etc), press the green call button and the standard windows dialer will appear
- Type in your code using this interface

This works fine against all systems. Obviously not as intuitive. We are however, working on building in DTMF into our next release and have made some progress so far but won't ship till its ready. At the same time, we'll try to address the issue of how to bind KikkerDialer to the green call button.

Keep giving us your feedback in the meantime, v useful.

Best rgds,

Kikker Interactive

[718]

Would you manage dialing DTMF tones, you'll be great! But please note that the standard Windows dialer do not work correctly with the DTMF tones. There is something wrong with the duration of the tone, as I suppose. So with that dialer I often reach wrong extention or dial wrong number.

[Anonymous]

First of all thank you for the freeware.
in spite that, I dont think I would throw phoneplus away yet which serves my every needs.
But it is nice to see some developers trying to give some fight to proffesionals.

[kikkerinteractive]

Thanks for all your comments. We're still working on getting a v1.0 out there shortly and the latest is good news. From the latest development version of the KikkerDialer, we now have full control of all the JAM buttons such as the direction pad middle button (to select contacts), the green dial button (to open the dialer and make calls), etc. This feature alone allows for complete one handed usage of the dialer (i.e. no stylus).

Now focus remains on adding:

- Call history
- Easier searching on contacts
- DTMF

This last, frequently requested, item is proving to be quite a challenge. We shall persist!

Best rgds,

Kikker Interactive

[1471]

Would you manage dialing DTMF tones, you'll be great! But please note that the standard Windows dialer do not work correctly with the DTMF tones. There is something wrong with the duration of the tone, as I suppose. So with that dialer I often reach wrong extention or dial wrong number.
This is because the keypad tones played though the speaker interfere with the tones sent out over the air. It distorts the tones and screws up the timing (you can hear yourself how irregular they are). In the Phone app Tools/Options, turn the Keypad option from "Tones" or "Beep" to "Off". It will then work perfectly, even with 10 digit Voicemail commands. kikkerinteractive need to be aware of this if they are implementing DTMF. Of course, if you have vibrate feedback like many diallers, you don't need the tones or beeps anyway.