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tikkel
05-02-2005, 08:23 AM
I use my Qtek 9090 through bluetooth with a Nokia C7-7W carkit.

I hear my callers and whom I call to very well, but they hear an echo. Can anyone tell me how to prevent? It looks like it is very annoying.

Thanks in advance!

christianb
30-03-2005, 03:38 PM
I got the same problem and did not find any solution so far. Is there someone to extend a helping hand??

acidoman
14-04-2005, 01:18 AM
Hi ppl,

I have the same problem, but I'm using a Qtek S100 + Nokia HS-11W as headset. I thought it was the headset that has a problem, but I think it is something with the Qtek S100. So far, I did not find a solution for this, so I just keep waiting until someone figures it out! :?

Jorge

xda-rocks
14-04-2005, 07:27 AM
I have this problem with 2 out of 3 of my BT headsets. The old Jabra 200 seems to work fine, but the other 2 get an echo. If I turn the volume on the headset down, the caller does not get an echo, but I can't here them very well. I guess the problem must lie with the BA. Yet another feature of this device - can't wait for the Universal (hopefully, with a fully working BT implimentation)

redaelkhayyat
14-04-2005, 01:12 PM
I have the same problem when I use bluetooth and I think the problem is that the voice out of the loudspeaker is fed back to the microphone and the other party hears his/her echo. I think it does not happend when the phone is in the cradle because there are echo cancellers in the NOKIA carkit. to get rid of the problem I reduce the volume and use the farest loudspeaker only. Hope it helps :lol: .

tikkel
17-04-2005, 10:37 AM
I have tried it, but didnīt work, even when I close the microphone of my phone, it keeps echoing...HELP!!!

redaelkhayyat
17-04-2005, 01:19 PM
Hi Tikkel,
When I said microphone I meant the car kit microphone. As soon as you connect to the car kit you start using the car kit loudspeakers and microphone. Hence try to use the farest loudspeaker and set the volume to the minimum necessary. Let me know if you still have the problem.

KR,
Reda

tikkel
17-04-2005, 07:51 PM
I have tried it and it works! No echoing anymore...but my volume is very low and I can hardly hear the caller...

Let's hope for an better solution, but thanks for now!!!

geovass
24-04-2005, 08:51 AM
Its the NOKIA fault.
I used to face the same issue, but i changed Car Kit to the HCB-300 SE and the problem is gone !!

tikkel
08-05-2005, 06:44 PM
I have installed the new rom ( 1.40 ) and don't have any problems anymore...

justry
18-05-2005, 12:03 AM
I have installed the new rom ( 1.40 ) and don't have any problems anymore...

Can you confirm after installing the rom upgrade to 1.40, that you can use the nokia car kit with no more echoing, cause I have a O2 XDA 11s from Australia, and I am suffering with the same annoying issue with the Nokia CK-1W car kit.

Can I apply the 1.40 rom update that was posted a few days ago to my XDA?

Your help is much appreciated.

tikkel
18-05-2005, 07:23 AM
After installing the rom update 1.40 I had less complaints about echoing. But yesterday, there was some one complaining again about echoing. Just first of all try turning the volume of the carkit to the lowest and make a call...

So the echo is not yet gone for now! :( :( :(

jimbo_hippo
26-05-2005, 01:36 PM
I have exactly the same problem with an SPV M2000 on Orange and the Ck-7W car kit. I used the kit succesfully with a nokia 6600 for a year or so and have used carkits for years so I know it isn't an installation problem.

Nokia support aren't interested as its a non-nokia phone.

Tried the upgrade on the Business section of the Orange website. No joy there either.

I'm at my witts end with this one! I just use my earphones now but its a real pain in the ar*e when you're used to a radio-muting, self connecting carkit.

I seem to remember with Nokia phones you could do something with EFR that helped but this isn't so on these phones.

Tried some bluetooth upgrades but to be honest its not something I'm comfortable with and think the problem lies elsewhere.

If anyone comes up with a fix for this it would be hugely appreciated. Callers complain all the time. I tested it by parking the car outside the office and ringing the office phone. Ran inside and spoke to the empty car with no engine running and yes theres an echo thats as loud as the voice. Truly awful.

So much for compatitblilty eh!!!?

Any help greatly appreciated.

alarmed
20-06-2005, 08:00 PM
Hi, to be honest it's not Nokia's fault their car kit work well with nokia phones, which they were designed to do. You would think bluetooth is compatable with other bluetooth devices this is not always the case.

To be fair your only option is the ericsson HCB 30 or the 300 car kit or i belive the parrot bluetooth with the lastest software work really well

alarmed

FEO1540
21-06-2005, 12:31 PM
guy's your so lucky,
I have Just XDA II and I can't get the phone to work with the car kit!!
life sux when from down under. :?
no one has a aussie upgrade whithout the phone locking up.
and when You ask custom support which is in hong kong they don't know when the upgrades are coming! :(

Ampelmann
09-07-2005, 06:26 PM
It is definitive Nokia's fault. I had a huge echo using a SE t610 (and the xda2s) with ck7w! Does anyone know a good alternative for a bluetooth carkit?

Ratty12345
09-07-2005, 07:18 PM
as installers for car kits, and i own an XDA myself.

i have tried the phone with the following car kits, CK7W, CK1W and neither of these work, this is down to nokia's car kit and there is no known fix for this...

if we have customers with XDA's (or 2s) we now use Motorola HFW8000 as we have found these work with no problems at all.

joppie1984
03-10-2005, 09:57 AM
Same problem here, lots of echo with the cw7 carkit.
Going to have a good look at the BT and wave dll's.

joppie1984
07-10-2005, 04:54 PM
Have taken 2 days too look at the problem,
have tryed different BT stack. But nothing worked.

Replaced the speaker (from the CK-7W) carkit from onder the drivers dash to the passengers dash and got a slide improvement on the echo problem.

going to try a directional microfoon next.

ill tell you the results once i get them.

tikkel
06-04-2006, 04:07 PM
I have the solution of the bt car kit error! :!:

I bought a MDA Vario/Wizard/9100 with the newest rom on it. Now it works like really good and no echoing anymore! Pairing and calling without echos! :P :P

ranger1801
10-05-2006, 08:57 PM
Hello,

my girlfriend has a Nokia 6210 - I think :?:

She donīt have bluetooth. She put the phone in the cradle.

Itīs a realy good connection!!! Speakingquality is so good, that you donīt if she drives or stand. Itīs realy PROFESSIONAL

If i connect my Blue Angel i have a very bad connection. Realy bad. My Parrot CK 3100 in my car is much better with my BA. But i tried to connect a Motorola Razor V3 with my Parrot. And see - the quality is so good, that my first thinking was - trash mdaIII buy Razor. I didnīt!!

I tried every rom with my parrot. WM5 Tuma (V1, V2, V3) Ivan with Widcom Stack and original from T-Mobile. After Updating to version 1.42.01 and a firmware-update of the parrot the quality is very good.

But with nokia CK7W or so the quality isnīt good with my BA.

It isnt my carkit, that of my girlfriend - iīm happy with my parrot, and by the way, the Display, VoiceDial, Object-Push-Server of the Parrot is more professional then the small button of nokia where you only can set volume and call the last number...

ranger1801
10-05-2006, 08:57 PM
Hello,

my girlfriend has a Nokia 6210 - I think :?:

She donīt have bluetooth. She put the phone in the cradle.

Itīs a realy good connection!!! Speakingquality is so good, that you donīt if she drives or stand. Itīs realy PROFESSIONAL

If i connect my Blue Angel i have a very bad connection. Realy bad. My Parrot CK 3100 in my car is much better with my BA. But i tried to connect a Motorola Razor V3 with my Parrot. And see - the quality is so good, that my first thinking was - trash mdaIII buy Razor. I didnīt!!

I tried every rom with my parrot. WM5 Tuma (V1, V2, V3) Ivan with Widcom Stack and original from T-Mobile. After Updating to version 1.42.01 and a firmware-update of the parrot the quality is very good.

But with nokia CK7W or so the quality isnīt good with my BA.

It isnt my carkit, that of my girlfriend - iīm happy with my parrot, and by the way, the Display, VoiceDial, Object-Push-Server of the Parrot is more professional then the small button of nokia where you only can set volume and call the last number...