Wiki: Help me! And Yes I have read Getting Started

[HDuser]

This thread has been started to allow new users to post question in regard to Upgrading based on the information that they have read on Wiki.

The Wiki Blue Angel Home Page is
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel

The Section for new Users is:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_GettingStarted

[Anonymous]

Hi,
As I mentioned in another thread, there is no info on how to save/backup/extract you existing ROM. I tried to use XDA-Tools and created some file with size around 30M. (I named it nk.nb1)
AFAIK, it's only "core" OS rom. So I want to capture now Radio and Ext. ROM in the same format.
Anyway, since if I do something wrong, I will loose it forever after I flush it with something else, so I would like to have more info and understanding.
Cheers,
Gorby

[HDuser]

I am a bit lost on what you want to do.

Ext rom can be unlocked zipped and saved.
Both os and radio can be install one at a time.

Thus you can cook a rom by using radio and os from other ship files. (if you have a password).

The saving of rom files (as in a rom dump) is explained somewere. Do a search for rom dump.

Also check
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=84478#84478

There is no info about that on wiki as nobody has written any.

[Gorby]

what i want to do is to backup my original OS, radio and ext. rom. by now i know that i can unlock my ext rom and copy it to a safe place. however, i m not sure that if restoring extended rom from this manual backup i will be able to achieve exact state of original rom. for example, dates of files will be different, reported version number could be different.
so i want to backup image of ext. rom.
moreover, i want to upgrade primarily because german interface sux for me and i need english one. so i need to backup all 3 roms.
i tried to use xda-tools but it only saves os and probably wrong because the size is too small (around 30M).
i figured out that i probably have to use d2s command from bootloader prompt. so i got an SD-card today.
it is still not clear to me how can i make 3 .nbf files that can be used later to restore my original rom with BaUpgradeUt.exe.
in addition, it would be useful for the community if i upload these roms because i didnt see that my model was mentioned here:
Operator code BRIGH102
E-Plus in Germany
OS: 1.22.01
ext: 1.22.756
radio: 1.06.00

btw, i could even write a how-to on dumping blue angel ROMs if i have enough info.

thanks,
Gorby

[Gorby]

Well, I was able to get OS image using pmemdump:
C:\XDA-Tools\Xda Utils\build>pmemdump.exe 0x80000000 0x02000000 nk.nbf
Copying C:\XDA-Tools\Xda Utils\build\itsutils.dll to WCE:\windows\itsutils.dll
CopyProcessMemoryToFile(00000042, 80000000, 02000000, nk.nbf)

Unfortunately, I couldn't dump ext. rom and radio in this way:
C:\XDA-Tools\Xda Utils\build>pmemdump.exe 0x60000000 0x00300000 radio.nbf
CopyProcessMemoryToFile(00000042, 60000000, 00300000, radio.nbf)
ERROR: ITReadProcessMemory - Attempt to access invalid address.

C:\XDA-Tools\Xda Utils\build>pmemdump.exe 0x70000000 0x01080000 ms.nbf
CopyProcessMemoryToFile(00000042, 70000000, 01080000, ms.nbf)
ERROR: ITReadProcessMemory - Attempt to access invalid address.

Perhaps, I have to specify another process context with -p option. Which one?

Thanks,
Gorby

[HDuser]

You dont need to dump the EXT Rom.

Unlock the Exteneded rom, copy it to your desktop, rar it and upload it to this site for others.

When you need it back.

Unlock it , Un rar it , copy it to Extended_rom, Hard reset.

As for the Radio, download a copy of the 1.06.00 of the FTP site or extract it from a 1.06.00 ship.

[Gorby]

OK. I tried to backup to SD-card and restored from it to check that it works. No problem.
I just can't easily dump it to files, but that I could figure out later. Important that backup/restore is working fine! :)
Anyway, having backup on a separate SD-card is not a bad idea anyway... I just need a bit smaller card instead of "misuse" of 512M card. :)

I'll upload my extended rom to the ftp.

Cheers,
Gorby

[Gorby]

Here we go finally:
/BlueAngel/Extended_Roms/Version_GER/E-Plus_Germany_QTEK_BRIGH102_Ext_Rom_122725_GER.zip

My device is:
PH20B 0 B GER R BRIGH102 1.22.01 0 1 1.22.752 1.06.00 06.00

And btw, it was successfullt flashed with:
i-mate_PDA2k_Arabic_13100_112_10600_SHIP but with radio replaced by 1.06.02.

Thanks for help and regards,
Alex

PS: I was able to backup restore all ROM's to CD-card but still need a way to copy them to PC.

[Bubisch]

What do you think will happen, if itried to upgrade my PH20B1 (MDA III with no camera) with the latest PH20B update from TMobile Germany?

The modifications in the EditFix.bat would look like this:

xda3nbftool -sd PH20B1 -sl GER -so T-MOB101 ms_.nba
xda3nbftool -sd PH20B1 -sl GER -so T-MOB101 nk.nba
xda3nbftool -sd PH20B1 -sl GER -so T-MOB101 radio_.nba

Will this have success or will it kill my device?
Thanks for your help,
Bubisch

[HDuser]

Dont think you will have a problem, however I am not sure if we know the password for that update. It seems you are a t-mobile customer, all you need to do is run the upgrade (with out fix.bat)

[Bubisch]

No, it does not work. My device is a PH20B1, the update is for PH20B. No go with nbftool, might be the wrong passwords. For information: i'm O2-Customer, just bought it with TMOB-Branding, because XDA III is not out until today...

[HDuser]

Hum, thats a new one for me.

So you are saying that even if you follow the wiki info using the Imate 162 wwe and the fix.bat you cant upgrade.

q1 what does your devicedata read
q2 what is your error message

[Bubisch]

I followed the Wiki, but i didn't try the WWE (want to stay with german language), but I tried the official TMOB Upgrade. I even tried updating just the radio rom. But it didn't work.

NBFtool still has the opinion, that its the wrong password, Upgrade Utility says, Wrong Model ID (Error 100).

Another Fix.bat from another forum says:
NBF: Wrong password
UpgrUt..: Radio Checksum Error (Error ID 123).

My device data reads the following string:
PH20B1|GER|T-MOB101|1.06.01|1.06.125|1.00.00

[HDuser]

Pech Gehabt!

Ok a recap, you have tried the offical rom from t-mobile and it falis due to the fact that this rom was built for the PH20B and not the PH20B1.

The GER seems to have the new encription so the tool wont work on it yet.

I Have so far only been able to find one GER rom which I posted on wiki, there is talk that T-Mobile austria has one which seems to be outdated (read that one on some thread in this forum).

We have a tool in the works that will fix this problem as it can handel both the old and the new encription thus you will be able to build your own rom by adding all the parts.

What you need to find is a ship.exe for the PH20B1, this you should be able to use and delete the ndf and only leave the radio one (from the FRA 1.06.02) this will solve your radio problem.

Thats about all I can do for you given what we have at the momenta and the fact you want a GER Rom.

[Bubisch]

Okay then, all i can do is wait for this. But its ok. I think your work on this is great. Let me know, if i can help you.

Thank you very much.

[forthree]

Which program can unlock the XDA IIs. Thanks.

[HDuser]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=92078#92078

[BoSJo]

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edit.
Naaaaa just forget again. Dont want this anyway :?

Maybe the wiki should be updated stating that the xda3nbftool is under further development.
---------

Any update info on the new xda3nbftool ??

Id really like to try the new O2 1.31.139 but offcourse i get the wrong password for ms and nk files and none for the radio file at all

Using xda3nbftool.exe -t radio_nbf >password.txt

Or does any body got som link explaning another way of getting the password???

[HDuser]

Maybe the wiki should be updated stating that the xda3nbftool is under further development.

Its at the bottom of the screen when you are in wiki, its a little button, you can press it, its called "edit".

[BoSJo]

Maybe the wiki should be updated stating that the xda3nbftool is under further development.

Its at the bottom of the screen when you are in wiki, its a little button, you can press it, its called "edit".

He he, i know :) but i dont want to intefere with your work.

Ill update it a little.

[HDuser]

Well I wish somebody would, then we might have more info in there.

[BoSJo]

Feel free to PM me with the text you want up there.

Ill get it up there, but sometimes im just to busy managing my busines

[xman]

I just know these have to be dumb question2, but I have read and re-read the docs but the answers are still not clear to me. Here goes:

Background:
- I an iMate PDA2K operating on T-Mobile USA.
- I have upgraded my PDA2K with mamaich's extracted Cingular 1.33.10 WWE ROM.
- The upgrade went fine, but I still have my old Extended ROM and Radio images.
- Now I want to upgrade the Extended ROM and the Radio to the latest versions

Questions:
1) Which extended ROM is the new base? Is it the original base (ERK_1.31_Base) , or the latest _x ROM (ERK_1.3x_004) ?

It's not clear to me whether the latest extension is the cumulative base, or whether the original base (ERK_1.31_Base) is updated each time an extension is added.

2) Which Radio file should I download to upgrade to TMobile-compatible 1.06.02 radio image?

I tried really hard to avoid asking these dumb questions, but I would rather be safe than sorry, so i am asking. Thanks so much for this great site and any assistance.

[HDuser]

xman

Q are only dumb if you ask them twice.

I will do my best to help you out on this bare with me.

1)
The New base:

The short of it is that if you were to take everything that has gone through the kitchen this is what the new base would look like.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_New_Base131

This is a combination of the Base + ERK1, + ERK2, ER3....
You see which app was added by which ERK as well as what was found in the 1.22 kitchen. (left side of screen the link to that ERK).
The long version is here.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_Understand_NewBase

The problem here is that a lot of people don't want all the apps so this is a suggestion or pick list that you chose from.

The applications can be found under.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_Applications

The patches under:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ERK_Patches_13x

Again you need to work out by yourself which patches you need as the 1.3x has gone through a few versions and its hard to work out what is in what (as in is the camera patch part of 1.35 OS or not).

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_131vs122


Its up to you to build (cook) your own rom, to your own taste as well as adding the carrier cabs that can be found under. (if and only if they have been through the kitchen)

Version 1.2X
ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/Extended_ROM_Kitchen_1_22/Customization_Operator

Version 1.3x
ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/Extended_ROM_Kitchen_1_3X/Customization_Operator

Or taken out of the backup copy of your EXT rom (maybe in your case the EXT ROM that is still active on your device).
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_Understand

2)
Now I base this answer on the fact that I dont know what your radio was in the first place.

There are 2 types of radio, the GSM one know as 1.00.00, 1. 06.00 and 1.06.02 or the CDMA radios found in the harrier or siemens. These are devices that have no sim.

If you use the wrong radio you turn your device into a paper weight.

If you have a GSM then you need to use THE SAME FILES that you used for the rom upgrade, Kill the OS rom out of that dir and add the 1.06.02 radio.
ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/Radio_Roms/BA_FRA_BelDT_12202_558_10602_Ship/radio_.nbf

rest of info: wiki getting started radio section.

As to the wording of wiki.
Wiki is a open site, the text in there is based on the perception of the person that wrote it and ALAS he may presume that things are understood by the reader which in fact may not be the case. It would help if you see a issue that you have found hard to understand that you correct that for others to benift from it. (edit at bootom of screen).

PS the writes spelling also sucks as you might have noticed.

Hope that helps, else come back and post your next q.

[xman]

Thanks for the very clear and detailed response MDAIIIUser. This clears up quite a lot for me. So, now I get it -- I have to assemble (cook) my own Extended ROM from the piece-parts that have gone through the kitchen. I will work my way through the upgrade then look to see what clarification I might add to the wiki.

Now, what if I wanted to include something like the IBM J9 JVM in the extended ROM. Here is a post that lists the required DLLs and where to get them: http://s91215199.onlinehome.us/zaurus/JavaOnPPC2002.htm .

Is this doable?

Thanks again.

[HDuser]

pass as I get error 404: File not found on your link.

You don't need to put anything in the extended rom, you can execute all the cabs from a temp folder. (download, copy to device, tap on them with filemanager)

The exteneded rom will only be executed on a Hard reset. This is useful as it will install all the applications on your next upgrade. Do you get that priniple?

[SKassam]

I am trying to use the 1.31. (004) base. I have fix.bat with the right information though I keep getting the country code ID if I first execute baupgrade.exe. After I execute fix.bat, I get a password not correct type of error.

How can I find out what the password in fix.bat should be? The last time, the password was great for using the Arabic base 1.31.

Thanks.

[HDuser]

what is the rom name?

[SKassam]

O2 WWE 1.31.00 1.31.139 1.06.00 from

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades

[HDuser]

new encription and thus no password untill new tool comes out. will only work if you are doing a same carrier upgrade (o2).

[xman]

pass as I get error 404: File not found on your link.

You don't need to put anything in the extended rom, you can execute all the cabs from a temp folder. (download, copy to device, tap on them with filemanager)

The exteneded rom will only be executed on a Hard reset. This is useful as it will install all the applications on your next upgrade. Do you get that priniple?

Thanks MDAIIIUser. I believe I understand the principle: items in Extended ROM will be reloaded on the device after a hard reset (is this what you meant by "your next upgrade"?).

If this understanding is correct, that is why I am interested in loading the JVM and associated files into Extended ROM. If you follow the link, you will see how elaborate the process is to get the "on-board Java development for Pocket PC" working. My reasoning is that if I could load the JVM and other utils in Extended ROM, (1) they wouldn't take up other storage space, plus (2) I wouldn't have to repeat the process each time I upgraded or did a hard-reset. Does this logic hold-up?

Here's the correct link: http://s91215199.onlinehome.us/zaurus/JavaOnPPC2002.htm

Somehow an extra "/" was inserted in the link on my post (I'll go back and edit the original post as well). Thx.

[HDuser]

I wont go into the why you want to do what you want to do nor what the link as this is of little intrest to me (sorry but its the truth)

You have got the concept correct that the Ext Rom will only be loaded on Hard reset. it is also limmited by size zo 16m. So why use it for the stuff you want to do?

My Ext rom is Empty as in has Nothing in it. This is so that the next time I have to do a hard reset I want Clean not customized by any carrier OS.

Try thiss for reading
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=83119#83119

Keep your set up simple so that you understand it, playing in the Exteneded rom is fun but in the long run its just a dir that is hidden.
If you have to do a Hardrest you are going to be spending time reloading most of your software so just add the above to it.

[thanhlongpc]

Hi everybody!

I'm using MDA III but it's OS language is GER. It's not easy to use, 'cause I can only use ENG.

Please help me to change GER to ENG.

Thank You so much

[Lixtek]

Hi!
I have tried the getdevicedata.exe! Well, the outcome is very strange:

PH20B 0 B WWE E

Now, I would like to update or to know if there is an update available. But I can't find my qtek9090 in the list. I have never updated it before. I can just read my specifications in the device itself:

ROM version: 1.22.00 WWE
ROM date: 10/22/04
Radio version: 1337.38
ExtRom version: 1.22.126
Model No.: PH2OB

I think it is not branded because I bought this qtek9090 over some friends directly at HTC. So Sim is not locked and it seems that it is a bit similar to versions of New Zealand but not really.
Thus, I don't know how to proceed or which update fits to my qtek9090!
Thanks, in advance for your effort and I am looking forward to someone's answer. :oops:

[HDuser]

Lixtek

Your getdevicedata output MUST be corupt, can you reload it and then in notepad delete the blanks, I feel you have missed something and/or you have only posted what you have seen on the screen and not noticed that you have a slide bar at the bottom of the window.

Given that you seem to have the qtec 1.22.126.
Wiki posts qtec 1.22.557 which should work out of the box.
(as in run the ship.exe).

Your other option is the i-mate 1.31 arabic, flush the extenede rom and add the radio 1.08.00 (also on wiki as well with the fix.bat settings).

My suggestion is for you to go for the 557 so that you have seen a upgrade that works, it will give you a better understanding of the process, then move form there to the radio, then if you feel comfortable to the extended rom.

Have fun

[Lixtek]

Hi!
Well, I am xo ashamed :oops: for that mistake.....yes, I have a swedish version. Thx, for your help mdaIII user :P :P .
I have followed your suggestion but the extrom 557 doesn't work....coutry error. But the 169 version does work.
I will check out further information in this forum tom solve this problem!
Lixtek

[robinio]

Hi all.

My MDAIII from T-Mobile had old version of everything (DeviceData.txt: PH20B 0 B GER R T-MOB101 1.06.01 0 1 1.06.115 1.00.00 00.00). I want also to change language to WWE so I followed guide as described in BA_Getting Started. I used pda2k_wwe_12200_162_10600_ship.exe with FIX.BAT as described, but I received 'Country ID error'.

Then I installed original update from t-mobile (ba_tmde_12201_182_10600_ship_special.exe) so atleast my ROM version is newer (ROM: 10/26/04, RADIO: 1.06.00, PROTOKOLL: 1337.38, EXTROM: 1.22.182 GER), but I would really like to have WWE.

I tried to solve Country ID error with editing HTCRUU.conf but no success.

Can anyone advice what can I do to get WWE on my device?

Thanks,
Robinio

[HDuser]

Hi

You have a german MDAIII same like me.

The Imate 162 should work if you followed wiki, can you please post your fix bat just the middle section where the ??? were.

[robinio]

my FIX.BAT (lines with ???)

xda3nbftool -sd PH20B -sl GER -so T-M0B101 ms_.nba
xda3nbftool -sd PH20B -sl GER -so T-M0B101 nk.nba
xda3nbftool -sd PH20B -sl GER -so T-M0B101 radio_.nba


Thanks,
Robinio

PS: and another interesting thing: after ROM update none of my buttons didn't work (dial, hangup, start, messaging, internet, ok). Before ROM update I made 'all data' x-backup to SD card and after restore buttons works again, but still interesting.

[HDuser]

Well that looks cool.

I understand that you now have the new rom

(ba_tmde_12201_182_10600_ship_special.exe (this is a type II rom).

Please check that you have a activesync partnership with this device (copy any file onto it or sync you outlook)

Re-extract the pdak ship exe file
Rerun the fix.bat with the above in a dos window so that you can see if you get any errors.

You are using the files downloded from wiki and have not extracted them form any other ship.exe as the version are different.

Re run the BaUpgradeUt.exe

Then get back to us

[robinio]

Thank you for your quick response! However, didn't work. Same error.

:cry:

I downloaded PDA2k_WWE_12200_162_10600_SHIP.exe and extracted it again, used FIX.BAT (in DOS window) as before, FIX.BAT produced no errors. I synchronized my device with PC and run BaUpgradeUt.

BaUpgradeUt says ERROR 120: COUNTRY ID ERROR (and some numbers)

What else can I do?

Regards,
rp

[HDuser]

This I find very hard to belive.

Ok upload your fix.bat, I have that rom on my PC as I used to use it.

I have a German T-Mobile the same as in wiki (smile),
I will run it on my device and see what I get.

PS bottom of the reply window you have a add atachment

[robinio]

this is it!

thanks for looking...

[HDuser]

Have a question for you.

I not sure if you have read the other threads but I am testing the new tool.

The I-Mate 162 is a type I rom and I have not flashed that one as per list on wiki.

Would you feel like flashing it.

I have uploaded a the file, using the tool and your info.
All you need to do is extrract it and run the upgrade, no fix no nothng.
After you have doen that you will also find the Radio 1.10 in sub folder

Del the other 2 nbf, you replace the radio out of the 1.10 and run the upgrade.

If this is ok for you pm and I will send the link.

[HDuser]

Status Report

We both have a GER MDAIII and the same Operator ID.

I tested the above fix.bat against my MDAIII Shipped as GER and ran the BaUpgradeUt.exe.
It also gave me a Country code error
I checked the header of the fixed file and found that the xda3nbftool.exe had in fact changed the Op ID and Language Code.

I extracted the ship.exe files new.
I edited the fix.bat leaving the Model ID and Language code out.
I ran the fix.bat with no errors
I ran BaUpgradeUt.exe.
This too gave me a Country code error
I checked the file header and found that the Language code was blank.

This is in fact interesting for I had flashed my device with that Rom in the past (I-mate 162), now I find I am unable to re-flash it with the old tool xda3nbftool.exe

On the other hand this is of no value as we all know that the old tool that has worked in the past (Thank you whoever wrote it) does not work on type II Rom's and thus there is a need for a new tool.

As per post above fixed the above ship.exe with the new tool and pm'ed robinio the link.

As confirmed by PM, robinio, flashed his device with new tool version with no problem, then re-flashed it again with the new tool modified radio 1.10.00, here again also with no problem.

I have updated wiki and changed the status of this Rom to Type 1 (Passed)
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades

Further info in regard to the testing of the new tool can be found in that thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=106035#106035

Please post comments in the appropriate thread

[Bubisch]

Here iam again, with another question - or as John Clease always said: "And now to something completely different!"

Are TPDisable and -Enable real essential commands? I think they put it in the ext. Rom to insure, that inexperienced users don't intervene the installation of the ext. Rom. Is my Oppinion right?

@mdaIIIUser: Great work! Youre doin' very well! Think, i can finish the beta version of german Rom Kitchen next weekend.

Have a nice evening :P

[HDuser]

And the candidate get 100 points.

Both the commands are to insrure that whilst you are holding your device and watching it reset you dont get your big fat fingers on to the cancel button.

Needles to say on a cooked ext rom they should be left out just incase you have not done your homework and end up with a chatty cab.

Had a sneek look at you kuche, nice work, you have done a lot more than i could hav hoped for. So geil, was kann ich noch dazu sagen.

[Bubisch]

Yeah thanks, no problem. Next weekend there will be the ftp-part to deal with. Perhaps there will be some Questions about several cabs. But i think there will be enough people to answer this Questions.

[jmsimple]

Hello everibody, Bonjour à tous :

:? i'm sure i need help...to help somebody :
a friend of mine bought a

Qtek 9090 in sweden and then tried to use it in france with a SIM Orange
It worked but not properly (especially wifi). During a trip the device was not in charge, he lost settings and made a hard reset......and so I join your community ...
Following (thank you) your instructions i got the device data :

PH20B 0 B WWE E DANGA001 1.1200 0 0 1.12120 1.02.00 02.00

and the problem is... : error 120 country ID error ....when i try to use (of course last rom orange in french but even swedish RUU122126WWE.....


Thank you

[Lixtek]

Hi!
I tried to upgrade from ROM 1.22, Extended ROm 122.557 to 1.40 Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition version 4.21.1088 (Build 15045.2.6.0) but it didn't work!! I fixed the country Code error but my qtek stopped at upgrade my radio. I tried it several times. Then I tried to upgrade to my old version and other even older versions but the same error occured. Now, my qtek is useless. Please help me! I have already read wiki regarding solving this problem and the thread to this ROM but it didn't work. I would be even very happy if I could upgrade my qtek to an older version. :cry: :cry: ! It should just work! Thanks for any help in advance!
lixtek

[HDuser]

the best thi whena flah has gone wrong is to flash it to an original rom. check wiki for roms. There is a new 1.40 from qtec

[Lixtek]

Hi!
This is what I have already tried, but there is always an radio updating error! something like 114.
ltek

[HDuser]

delete the radio.nbf, run the upgrade, the run the radio upgrade off wiki

[Lixtek]

Thank you very much! (Du hast mir den Arsch gerettet! Brauche den qtek morgen dringend)
This works! But when I am trying to update any radio version. Even older versions which formally worked, the radio update error 114 occurs!

[HDuser]

Gern gemacht!

Ok now that you have a rom and can sync with your device you need to have a go at the radio.

The best choice is to find your original ship.exe del all nbf's but the radio and run that upgrade as it seems your radio is corupt.

make sure you can connect to your device (will need to add a new active sync partnership)

After that download the type I upgrade files, download the radio 1.12 which is a type I,(all on wiki in my sig) place them all in the same dir and run that radio upgrade only.

If this all fails you need to post the content of your devicedata as clear text and I will edit the header of a radio 1.12 for you.

[USAisGAY]

i have a xda 2i but wen i swich it on i just get the startup screen and then it turns off i have rang up the guys from the shop i got it from and thay are saying that its out of there hands and theres nothing thay can do i have charged it for about a day and a half and i even used my friends battary but it still dus the same it wos a lot of money and thay wont swop it or try and fix it :cry: all i did wen i got it back home woz take it out the box and start charging it sometime the next day i tryed swiching it on and then it just did that thin wen it turns on then just swichis off ... is there enything u can sagest that i can do ... thanks for eny help u can give me :D

[HDuser]

dont know were you got it from but most places have a 10 day return policy. give it back give them hell

[Lixtek]

Hi!
I am sorry for my ignorance! But it seems that I am unable to do some things of your advice.
First I tried to locate the original radio at the ftp but I couldn't find extracted radio files. My original was designed radio for
PH20B 0 B WWE E BRIGH001 1.22.00 0 0 1.22.126 1.06.00 06.00. So my Radio was 1.06.00. But as I already mentioned I couldn't find an extracted version, just the whole upgrade with ROM, Extrom and radio. Well, I took an 1.06 Radio for xda, modified some update datas like described in Wiki and like I have done in the past but the same radio upgrade error 114 occured. I am very sorry bothering you and I have really tried to follow all instructions in wiki but it really have no clue. I only hope you still have patient and good advices.

[HDuser]

go to wiki, blueangel home page (my sig).

pick the radio 1.12 upgrade
follow instructins
run without using the xda3nbtool.

if fails fix it with the tool, rerun.

if fails post error text in a form that i can read (not error 114 something).

Confirm the steps that you did, the name of files t at you used.

ps if you can find the original ship.exe, extract the files, delete the other 2 nbfs leaving just the radio, run the upgrade but i Might have said that on sunday at 20.48.

[Lixtek]

Ok! Sorry, I was very confused!
After gave me the advice to upgrade radio and rom seperately, I first successfully upgraded the rom from 1.22 to 1.4 then:

1. Dowloaded Radio 1.12 [(radio_.nbf) for type I ce]
2. Downloaded Upgrade tools [ (Baupgrade, Enter BL, Getdevicedata, HTC Ruu. conf, HTCruu.dll, )]
3. Put both downloaded files in one folder
4. Make sure that in HTCruu.conf file [CHECKCEID_TYPE]=1 is added
5. Run the update by klicking Baupgrade
=> failed: " Device Software Update Utility- R2300 D1390- CB2.06 -1
Error 114: Radio Rom Update Error...."

Then I made a Hard reset!
Then I tried:
same 5 steps like in first procedure +
6. Add File : [xda3nbftool]
7. Add File: [Editfixbat]:

EM ~DeviceData.txt PH20B 0 B WWE E T-MOB101 1.12.22 2 2 1.12.169 1.02.00 02.00
REM Replace the question marks with the data from ~DeviceData.txt

REM 'sd' stands for device, e.g. PH20B.
REM 'sl' stands for language, e.g. WWE.
REM 'so' stands for operator (Country ID), e.g. T-M0B101.

REM ms_.nbf Password = 0x20040522
REM nk.nbf Password = 0x20040521
REM radio_.nbf PAssword = 0x20040523

xda3nbftool -x ms_.nbf ms_.nba 0x20040522
xda3nbftool -x nk.nbf nk.nba 0x20040521
xda3nbftool -x radio_.nbf radio_.nba 0x20040523

xda3nbftool -sd PH20B -sl WWE -so BRIGH001 ms_.nba
xda3nbftool -sd PH20B -sl WWE -so BRIGH001 nk.nba
xda3nbftool -sd PH20B -sl WWE -so BRIGH001 radio_.nba

xda3nbftool -c -u NK.nba
xda3nbftool -c -u ms_.nba
xda3nbftool -c -u Radio_.nba

xda3nbftool -x ms_.nba ms_.nbf 0x20040522
xda3nbftool -x nk.nba nk.nbf 0x20040521
xda3nbftool -x radio_.nba radio_.nbf 0x20040523
del *.nba

=> failed: " Device Software Update Utility- R2300 D1390- CB2.06 -1
Error 114: Radio Rom Update Error...."

Then I made a Hard reset!
Then I took the folder which I used to update the rom. I deleted the file nk.nbf and replaced it by the dowloaded Radio 1.12 [(radio_.nbf) for type I ce] file. Same error occured.

Then I made a Hard reset!
Then I took the modified folder BA_WWE_BelDT_12200_557_10602_SHIP.exe which I used to update the rom deleted the files nk.nbf., nk.nba ms_.nba, ms_.nbf, and replaced them by the dowloaded Radio 1.12 [(radio_.nbf) for type I ce] file. Same error occured.

Hard Reset!
Then I used my old upgrade folder for radio 1.10 which I used successfully in the past to upgrade radio to 1.10.
Same error!

Ok! My device had originally the following dates:
PH20B 0 B WWE E BRIGH001 Rom:1.22.00 Ext.Rom: 1.22.126
Radio: 1.06.00

then Upgrade
PH20B 0 B WWE E BRIGH001 Rom:1.22.00 Ext.Rom: 1.22.169
Radio: 1.06.02

then Upgrade:
PH20B 0 B WWE E BRIGH001 Rom:1.22.00 Ext.Rom: 1.22.557
Radio: 1.10.00

I really had read the excellent website wiki but if I had made mistakes, because of not understanding everything on wiki, I am really sorry! I tried my best. In the meantime I thought I understanded it!
Lixtek

[HDuser]

My my you are having fun.

thanks for all the info and I must say you have done your homework, and you read wiki.

Please try the following.

in a new dir
extract radio 1.12 (type I)
extract type I upgrade tools
add xda3nbtool
add and edit editfix bat
Remove all lines that are for the other 2 nbfs (leaving radio)
Dont change the [CHECKCEID_TYPE]
Check with file manager that you are connected to device
run editfix bat in dos window
check for errors
Run back uputil

If fails trye edtfix.bat with GER and not WWE

If fails I will post custom radio for you

Viel Spass

[Lixtek]

I think I really would have fun if I throw my qtek against the wall!!
Well, I followed your instructions and it doesn't work! I even tried it with GER in the editfixbat. although I didn't think this would work! I hope your custom raio will work. But I have the suspicion that it won't function, because my radio file in the qtek seems to be totally damaged. I think this was caused by the program telonoff which turns on/off flight mode. My qtek gave me sometimes a radio error at that time. But I still hope for your custom modified radio! Thanks for your effort in advance...otherwise I really don't know how to proceed

[HDuser]

Well you can't have my wall it has to many holes in it, the MDAIII is hard and although dented still works.

Ok.

in a new dir
extract type 1 upgrade tolls
add custom radio (extracted)
(link removed)
run upgradutil as is no fix.bat needed.

If Fails!
Take any Ship.exe that worked in the past and is Type I
(see wiki avalible roms)
Downgrade to that version.

in same folder del nk and ms nbfs.
Add custom radio 1.12
rerun upgradeutil to upgrade Radio only

then re run the 1.40 upgrade this time leaving the radio out of it.
Fix bat and all that stuff, you are good at in by now.

Geil gell?

[Lixtek]

Oh Mann!! Ich raste gleich aus!
I am so thankful that you put so much effort in my radio problem.
But it is still there. After I followed all your instructions it still doesn't work.

Also in the past I upgraded the radio without any problems. I even cannot downgrade my radio anymore or reinstall my actual radio version (1.10).
The rom and the extended rom work perfect. They can be updated and downgraded.

I don't think my error is similar to things like country error or those
which are described at Wiki. My upgrade always begins totally normal until
the progress bar begins and then nothing happens anymore so it stays at 0%. After a while the error message occurs.

So I come to the conclusion that my radio file on my qtek is very heavily damaged! Perhabs I can solve it by deleting this file, but until now I see no way to get into the rom just to the extrom. Or whereever this radio file is stored!

Or is it necessary to have a rom before installing radio? As I understand it in Wiki all components are seperately upgradable.

[HDuser]

Teif einartmen!

Ok

So you got a brick that has lights on, not much good without a radio, you can always play games on it. (sorry I do feel for you but when you reach rock bottom you can always dig)

This is about the last thing I can think of.

Drain battery until external battry empty.
remove battery and put the clip that holds the battery in place in the closed postion.
Put the device on and let it drain dead as in very dead.

Then downgrade by using a ship.exe that is for your device.
Run the ship.exe (no fix no nothing).

then up the radio
then up the ce rom

[HappyGoat]

Try this:

1. Delete the radio_.nbf on your computer, and download a new one.
2. Make a new folder with all upgrade components in there:
- BaUpgradeUt.exe
- HTCRUU.conf and .dll
- Editfix.bat
- EnterBL.exe
- xda3nbftool.exe
- GetDeviceData.exe

3. Place your new radio_.nbf also in that folder
4. Edit the Editfix.bat to match your device data (delete the lines you do not need, these are the lines for ms_.nbf and nk_.nbf)
5. Run the Editfix.bat FROM DOS Command prompt (so do not doubleclick it!)

Now restart your computer, reconnect to your PDA, and try to reinstall the radio ROM again.

If that does not work, do as MDAIIIuser says (sorry, we answered at the same time)...go back to your original ROM (re-download that!)

[Lixtek]

I tried to follow the instruction of Happy Goat but as well no results. So I am draining my battery now.
But I have a question: If the cell is totally empty the dates in the storage won't be deleted. So the rom, extrom and radio wouldn't be deleted, am I right? So will it really help to repair or remove my corrupt radio file?
Well, strangely my old radio 1.10 which is on my qtek seems to work, because I still can phone with my device. But I cannot up 1.10 downgrade or upgrade. I am sorry mdaIIIuser if I begin to annoy you, but anyways thanks
for your help! I hope draining the cell will help...my last hope!

[HDuser]

I just dont know, its a trick that has worked for some.

[Lixtek]

Ok! Even with empty cell it didn't work! That is enough! I give up! A whole week wasting my time.
This device should originally help me saving time.

I won't update my Rom to 1.4 although it works, but there are several problemes with the volume. My device is often to calm! I will install my old rom 1.22, extrom 122.557.

At least my corrupted radio still works partially! So I will leave it to repair it!
But if you find something new to help me please let me know! Because I know myself: From time to time I will try it again to upgrade my radio!
Thanks for your help! Xda- developers are the best!

[HDuser]

Well that sucks, sorry for you.

Please confirm that when you do a original ship.exe downgrade install the radio part still fails.

[HDuser]

Hey One more idea

Back up from sd card. of radio rom!

http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=151

You could get somebody to give you a dump of the radio try same cariier just to be safe, post it on the ftp, you download and do a restore.

Now I have never done this nor played with it so I will be of no help

[Lixtek]

Wohooo!!!!! It works!!!! You know what!
I have read at another website that Asus MAinboards cause
some trouble for some qteks! It seems for mine, too!
I bought a new main computer with an Asus Board, which I also use, so I tried to update with another PC and voilà it works!
Thanks God! Puh!
Anyway thanks for your help!
Just a question: why is the volume so low with this new ROM and Radio?

[HDuser]

Well thats a new one! one way to pass a week.

So tell me a drained device is not then dead it just has no power.

Did you not lose everthing and had to flash it new?

What I am looking for is the system reset to nothing on it. I always thougt that the battery trick was it.

[Lixtek]

Well, although the device had absolutely no power, ROM, Radio and extRom
were saved in it. I think in the Read Only Memory (ROM, Festspeicher).
Because when I succesfully updated my Radio my ROM version and my extRom were both the same before I drained the cell.

But the thing with the asus board...tsts (Darauf muss ma erstma kommen!).
So now I am coming to the extendedROM! HarHar! But I don't think I will have any further problems, after this orgie!

[HDuser]

Can't get enough, tried a week to turn the thing into a brick with the radio rom, but as that did not work you now HAVE TO move on to the ext rom.

My god will this thread ever end?

Viel spass

[robal]

Hi.
I'm currently tinkering with MDAIII's bottom connector.
Mostly for building car-kit, but that doesn't matter right now.
What matters is that Wiki page doesn't have enough MDAIII hardware desribed.
The truth is, we still don't know well how it works.
For example, I diagnosed my MDAIII's port and noticed following:
- grounding GND/SENSE doesn't do anything
- IN_CALL doesn't change state when calling
- CAR_AUDIO_R&L doesn't produce standard line-level audio
(when connected to car amplifier or home hi-fi, the sound is hissy, without bass)
Do you think, that's my MDA's fault or the documentation is not accurate yet ?

[lehungnew]

have a XDA III bought from Gemany. the language of this XDA is deutfch
. Now i want to change the language to English. And i don't know how to update. Somebody can tell me how ? Someone have the New new Version of XDA III. Show me PLZ. Thanhk u very very much. Oh and i'm Vietnamese so that my Enghlish not so good. forgive me. Thanks

[HDuser]

Have you found out what your operator code is by using the getdevicedata?

Were are you getting stuck in the getting started section of wiki?

[robal]

I recomend xda-developers's wiki in concern of rom tinkering.

About car DIY kit :

I've just finished soldering and testing a pre-amplifier with equalizer.
It's doing a great job lifting the signal to proper level. However, I still couldn't get a good bass. It seems that MDAIII has somewhat hi-pass filtered cradle audio output.

I think of such solutions:
- get audio from upper (headset) connector (I don't like the idea of connecting 2.5mm jack every time I get into car)

-modify/hardwire MDAIII (that'd do good, but sounds like a surgery)

-try software (hey, this output is software controlled... maybe hi-pass filtering is done by software not strict hardware)

Any comments... solutions... suggestions.. :)

[Bart H]

This thread has been started to allow new users to post question in regard to Upgrading based on the information that they have read on Wiki.

The Wiki Blue Angel Home Page is
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel

The Section for new Users is:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_GettingStarted

Hi,

I recently bought an MDA III at T-Mobile. I have the following versions on my MDA:
Model number: PH20B
ROM version: 1.06.00 ENG
ROM date: 08/05/04
Radio version: 1.00.00
Protocol version: 1337.30
ExtROM version: 1.06.118 WWE
BT-PPC/PE version: 1.0.0 Build 1900

Because a lot of important functionalities like Bluetooth aren't working propertly, I would like to upgrade my MDA III.
Unfortunately T-Mobile Netherlands doesn't give any upgrades. They give only half promises, that the ROM upgrade is on the way.
Which in fact means that it is on the way for about 6 months now. Anyway I'm getting tired of waiting, so I checked out some stuff from this site but I'm a bit lost..............

Hopefully somebody can tell me which patch I need and how to install it.

Thx,

Bart

[HDuser]

Step I (Save info about your device)

Get a copy of your devicedata.txt as you might need to fix a type I rom if things dont work out.

Step II (EXT Rom save)
First you will need to save your ext rom that keeps the carierr settings in it for your network.

Use the unlock tool and instructions form Here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_Tools

Copy the files onto your PC

Step III (CE Rom)

Well you can upgrade to a 1.40 rom based on the following page:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_1.40.00_Upgrade

use the type II (easy methord) that way you dont need to fix it!
(I use the i-Mate rom but its your choice)

Step IV (Radio)
Now in a new install dir (DONT USE THE SAME FILES AS BEFORE)

You can replace the radio afterwards based on this page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Radio_1.13_Upgrade

STEP V
Now you can play with the extrom for better understanding read:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_RomKitchen

(I don't care about the ext rom as my carrier does not support this device, however the EXT Rom has applications and patches that are of some use, these I install direct and thus keep the ext rom empty bar the unlock tool)
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_Applications
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_Patches_14x

As always have fun and you are doing this at your own risk.

Get back with feedback

[Bart H]

Hey MDAIIIuser,

Thx for the guidelines. I followed steps 1 to 4. So I upgraded everything with the Imate patch.
Untill now everything worked perfectly. But now step 5.........

I would like to install some applications which originally were on my MDA III and remove some of imate's, which I'm not going to use anyway.
Adding could be done by taking the config.txt file and adding some CAB-files from my backed-up extended_ROM files. With this I have two problems:
1. I don't have a config.txt file in my current installation (Should I make it myself? and How? What needs to be in it?)
2. I don't now what files I need to use, mainly the standard T-Mobile things I'm not sure about.

There are a lot of differences between the old and the new extended_ROM files (see attachement). Also in the old one, the config.txt file does not have all CAB files in it???????? Maybe you have an idea of what they are? Which ones that need to be added, removed or replaced

Below you can find the old config.txt file:

EXEC:\Extended_ROM\CallerIDInstall_WWE.exe
EXEC:\Extended_ROM\RestartRadio.exe
EXEC:\Extended_ROM\TPDisable.exe
EXEC:\Extended_ROM\Run_BTTrayCE_10.exe
CAB: \Extended_ROM\Album_EnableStreaming.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\BA_Album_WWE.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\Busytone.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\Run_BTTrayCE_10.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\ClearVue_WWE.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\Fax_WWE.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\MMS_WWE.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\patch.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\TMD_AP_NL.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\TMDNLCustomize.sa.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\TMO_DialSkin.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\T-MOsetting.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\VideoMMS.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\version.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\ZIP_WWE.CAB
EXEC:\Extended_ROM\TPEnable.exe
RST: Reset

Hopefully I'm not bothering you too much which my shit!!!

Thanks,

Bart

[HDuser]

Bart going into the explanation of the ext rom is to long and has been documented on wiki.

What you need to understand is the following

1) You will always be confronted with the ext rom BS on every upgrade
2) there are types of cabs that are good for most upgrades (applications)
3) Patches can conflict (BT 3500 on rom 1,40 which has BT 3900)
4) Carrier files that you might not need (MMS)
5) Two types of autorun aplications (one uses the config.txt the other not)
6) cabs DO NOT need to be installed over the ext rom folder you can execute them over file manager.

For a understanding of what the files do go to
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_Cooked14x
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_Cooked131

and open the ERK Of the rom to see the details.

You will need to find a rom from your own old carrier to work out what you old cabs do. (other options I feel are to advanced for you at the momnet (cabmanager).

The old files that you need are
ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/Extended_ROM_Kitchen_1_22/Autorun/AutoRun.exe

ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/Extended_ROM_Kitchen_1_22/Kitchen_Staff_only/ERK_1.22_Beta/ERK_1.22__Base/Imate_PDA2k_WWE_12200_162_10600_SHIP/Cabs/Config.txt

Edit the config.txt to meat your needs.

These are your carrier files
CAB: \Extended_ROM\TMD_AP_NL.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\TMDNLCustomize.sa.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\TMO_DialSkin.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\T-MOsetting.CAB


The rest of the appliactions and patches can be found in the kitchen, download what you need and the config.txt line you can cut and paste of that page.

hope it helps

[Bart H]

Thx MDAIIIuser,

It's working perfectly and most importantly my TT Navigator 5 software is working!!!!!!

CY,

Bart

[brayman]

Hi Guys,

I have the T-Mobile MDA3 bought from the uk. I have tried all the details I can from the wiki to update my rom but It will not update I keep getting the country ID Error.

This is the info from device data:

PH20B 0 B ENG G T-MOB005 1.06.00 1.06.160 1.00.00 00.00

The Details from the device itself are:
ROM Version: 1.06.00 ENG
ROM Date: 08/05/04
Radio Version: 1.00.00
Protocol Version: 1337.30
ExtROM Version: 1.06.160 ENG

As I said I've tried what I can from the wiki site and am not having much luck if someone could help id really appreciate it.

If you need any more info let me know.

[HDuser]

did you follow the 1.40 link and use the ma-upgrade tool?

[brayman]

Yes I've done that. I still get the same problem.

[brayman]

I havent tried the second method as It looks way to complicated for me to use the xda3nbftool.exe program.

[rick83]

yes... i seem to be stuck somewhat at there...

[HDuser]

Type I roms use the nbftool to fix them with the data out of devicedata.txt.

Type II roms use the ma_no... tool to bypass the country code error.

All of the 1.40 roms are type II. there is however a type I conversion of a 1.40 rom on the avlible roms wiki page.

The best option is to follow the wiki 1.40 upgrade page and the follow the radio 1.13 upgrade page, use the files on that page and DONT mix them up.

[cescof]

Please help me. I'v downgraded may ba with my last official rom ita. I've upgraded it with the last stack radio1.13.But i'm not abel to have mms in my ba.
I've look in ext rom and semms to me ok.
Sugestion please?
Regards

[Nighto]

Please Help me.

I have a Blue Angel Qtek 9090 with 1.12.00 WWE (09/02/04), with Radio 1.13.00, Protocol 1337.42, ExtROM version: 1.12.120 WWE and BlueTooth 1.0.0.3900. As you can see by the numbers above, i upgraded successfully the BT and Radio ROMs, but i couldn't upgrade the actual "master" ROM.

All I wanna is to have it in Portuguese. I've downloaded DUMP_QTEK_14000_148_12000_portuguese and all other apps and upgrader tools, but i can't make it work :cry: and yes, i readed the faq.

How can i upgrade it?

[erreterr]

I have scrolled many times and also printed and read many times the materials that are to be found on wiki, but I have still something unclear. I have an SPV M2000 and I wanted to upgrade to the WM5, cause this WM2003 that the SPV currently has, has some problems - for example when I push the Camera button, there is no Camera function, but opens the Windows Media Player. And I have reached till the step 4 of the "HTC_Blueangel_WM5_Wizard Port_v 1.3-Tu Ma", where I have difficulties to overcome this step 4. There says: "Patch your ROM with the data in DeviceData.txt", but I don't know how to do this. Should I put the nk.nbf along with devicedata.txt, EditFix.bat, and XDA3NbfTool? And how to patch the ROM with my "devicedata.txt"?
thanks in advance

[HDuser]

The devicedata.txt is the info of your rom, this info you need to use to edit the editfix.bat.

This you then need to run with the nbf file in the same dir.

This will thus patch your nbf file with your settings and you will beable to run the update utilaty without getting a error.

Unless you remove the lines in editfix.bat for the radio and extended rom nbf you will get error messages about "cant find file".

wiki getting started goes into this subject in more detail.

[wopper]

Yes i have read the whole list of points but it wont work ;(

I have an SPV M2000 with 1.40 / 1.06.02 WWE and i want a (simlockfree)
-BA_DT_WWE_DutchRetail_14000_556_11300_Ship
-BA_WWE_14000_147_11200_Ship
-PDA2k_WWE_14000_176_11200.exe

The version Qtek or Imate doesn't matter because i want an unbrandded simlock free phone.

What i have done:

BA_DT_WWE_DutchRetail_14000_556_11300_Ship
Device.txt: PH20B 0 B WWE E ORANG005 1.40.00 0 0 1.06.02 06.02

I have made :

xda3nbftool -sd PH20B -sl WWE -so ORANG005 ms_.nba
xda3nbftool -sd PH20B -sl WWE -so ORANG005 nk.nba
xda3nbftool -sd PH20B -sl WWE -so ORANG005 radio_.nba

xda3nbftool -x ms_.nbf ms_.nba 0x20040522
xda3nbftool -x nk.nbf nk.nba 0x20040521
xda3nbftool -x radio_.nbf radio_.nba 0x20040523

But then i get an error 123 radio image file checksum error.

But with the:
-BA_WWE_14000_147_11200_Ship
-PDA2k_WWE_14000_176_11200.exe

I cant get the file because fix.bat cant make a header or a wrong password ?

Can anyone say me what im doing wrong ?

tnx Rob

[HDuser]

Rob

The fix.bat was needed for the older roms and does not work with the newer ones.

You seem to have a 1.40 rom to upgrade to 1.42 follow the upgrade instructions on wiki.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_1.42.00_Upgrade

You seem to have an old radio, to upgrade to 1.15 follow the wiki instructions.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Radio_1.15_Upgrade

The sim unlock (which will allow you to use any sim on your device) can be found also on wiki.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Unlock_Sim

The Phone branding (splash screens and network settings) are found in the ext rom which is covered in the wiki kitchen.

[3lj]

Im an idiot, and yes i have read getting started, however, i admit i am fully overwhelmed by it, and do not really understand it all, so have a few questions, in hope someone could shed some light.

I had an 02 Xda IIs, however im now on Orange, and would like to keep the phone.

I have managed to unlock it, that was nice and simple thanks to this site, so woo hoo :-D

I am reading into updating the ROM, to get rid of all the annoying O2 stuff, and put it onto an Orange one.

From what i see there is a 1.42 ROM on the wiki, but thats just for tmobile UK?

I then looked at the 1.40 and it did have an orange rom but it was for NL . meaning netherlands, but then i was reading elsewhere in the forums, i found an orange 1.40 ROM

Orange UK WWE ORANG001 1.40.00 1.40.179 1.06.02 Download Thread 2

(from http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades)

now the instructions for installing a rom on the wiki are right over my head, but on the Orange Website, the instructions for installing that rom

http://www2.orange.co.uk/servlet/Satellite?pagename=OUKPersonal&c=OUKPage&catID=1096364420631&cid=1096359217080&pid=1096364420640&product=Feature&t=Product#answer

are a lot more at my level, download the file, and run it, and follow the instructions.

Now my questions:

Is it possible just to update an 02 phone straight to Orange? (using the update on the Orange site), or is the simple Orange instructions designed for a phone which already has the Orange software to begin with?

If so, what version ROM should i try and upgrade to?

Also, i have bought some A2DP headphones, so would need to upgrade to the latest Radio and bluetooth ROMS too ?

Would an older Orange ROM be compatible with newer Radio & Bluetooth ROMs, or is that a nono?

Also, is Bluetooth version : 1.0.0.3900 (which the wiki says is the latest) the A2DP compatible one? or is it that, and an extra add on?

Thanks for your time, and sorry for my bad explanations/poor phrasing/lack of mental abilities to understand the wiki

J.

P.s.
PH20B 0 B WWE E O2___001 1.31.00 0 0 1.31.139 1.06.00 06.00

is my current device data

[thingonaspring]

Hi 3lj,

The ROM you use has no effect on whether or not your phone is SIMlocked to a particular network.

I use the 1.42 TMobile UK ROM on my unlocked Qtek 9090 (PH20B).
I've not seen any problems arise from this ROM, despite having a vodafone SIM.

[3lj]

Really?

Wowzers, thats great news, so it didnt come with loads of T-mobile logos and everything :-/

Does that mean if i change my rom to it, im still going to have the 02 logos and active stuff ... is that what the extended rom thing is all about?

Either way, the latest Tmobile rom has the latest radio and bluetooth right?
So it will be update them all in one go, woo hoo

Thanks

[thingonaspring]

The ROM does come with some t-mobile branding. The boot splash screen says t-mobile, and the phone app has a t-mobile backdrop.

You can avoid the phone app branding by extracting the updater application to a directory and deleting "ms_.nbf" prior to running "BAupgradeUT.exe" to start the upgrade. This will avoid changing the extended ROM contents of your phone.

[3lj]

Oooh

so if i delete the ms_.nbf then it will keep its current settings? or go a default no settings phone?

In that case, could i take the ms_.nbf of the orange update, and put it with the latest tmobile rom upgrade?

is that what these cooked roms are all about then? mixing and matching?

Thanks again :-D

[thingonaspring]

You can mix any extended ROM with any base ROM. This may or may not be a good idea depending on the mix you choose.

My prefered way is to have nothing in the extended ROM, and manually install any custom apps/personalisations as and when.

This has the added advantage that you can repatition the extended ROM size to a minimum value (recommended 128kb) and use the reclaimed space as extra storage for PIM data and programs.

A rare few CABs will only install from extended ROM as the autoinstaller for extensions is called before some windows services start up and lock certain files. I've only personally encountered this with TuMA 1.3's orignal extended ROM, but other examples may exist.

[3lj]

Wow

So i finally went ahead, and tried the orange upgrade, and at first i got a country id error, so then tried with the other program it recomends on your wiki,

did it first time, and it said error again, and was panicing as it was just a blank screen with usb and the active sink software said disconnected, i then read it said, if it didnt work, try again

i did, and it then installed it all :-D
I was tempted to upgrade to the normal base ROM (from 1.40 to 1.42 tmobile one), but decided against it, it appeared to work fine, and then i upgraded the radio (the bluetooth was already done) and then the a2dp update and its all perfect now :-D

Thank you for writing a great wiki, and for all your help, i was overwhelmed at first, but once i gave it a go, it was absolutley easy peasy :-D

[jackfrost7]

This is for a Siemens SX66 Cingular.

Ok, so way back when the WM2005 first became useable on a BlueAngel, I updated my rom to it, i went through the whole process, it worked fine. Phone was too slow to use well, and was also kinda big to carry around, so I ended up putting it down and using a Razr for several months.

Flash foward to now. I decided that I wanted to use the phone again, and came to this site to update to a newer ROM, in hopes that it would fix the majority of the issues.

So I tried to update from the WM2005 version that I had to a newer one (Ivan V4 R2.1). It didn't work, gave me an ERROR 100: MODEL ID ERROR

I tried a whole bunch of other 2005 roms. All gave me the same error.

I figured I'd try and downgrade to 2003 and try again. I downgraded fine, but any of the 2005 roms still failed.

Looked on the forum, and only thing I could fine about a model error was to get a Shipped rom first and use it. Did that, and it is still giveing me the error. Anyone have any ideas?

EDIT ++++++++

Ok, so I figured out that none of the newer versions of roms (TuMa, Logout, Ivan) dont include the MaUpgradeUt, and dont include them in the instructions anywhere... finally going back to mammich's, he had a folder for it. I used that and it worked... altho its working very slowly.

[r.appelo]

I can upgrae my MDAIII (T-MOB003) to any ROM I want, thanks to xda-dev.

Now there's only 1 ROM I badly want: The 119 Ext ROM from T-MOB NL, since that has Blackberry Client.

Somehow just that ROM gets installed (no reported issues) but it does not seem to accept/install the Ext ROM.

If I manually start to install from the ExtROM, I get an error that the files are not WM2003 compatible cabs.

Now I try to install my a ROM that I know works (a 1.42 from TMOB UK, and replaced the ext rom with the 199 ext rom of TMOB NL (the 119).

Am I doing something extremely stupid, or should this work (both ROM 1.42)?

I'm lost... :oops:

[HDuser]

Short answer
read wiki extended rom kitchen

Long answer

Unlock your ext rom
Unhide your ext rom
Save the files to your PC (incase you need them again)
Download the ext rom you want from
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_Available_Ext_Roms

Extract the files to your PC
Copy those files or just the ones you need to you ext rom
EDIT the config.txt if you have only copied some files
Lock the ext rom
hide the ext rom
Hard reset.

NOTE:
If you just want the SPECIAL cabs then copy what you want to your device and run them (Tap on them with file explorer).
This way you WILL note need to reinstall everthing.

[aminry]

hello

i have an IMATE PDA2K and now i have a problem like Lixtek had
i can't upgrade RADIO ROM
the upgrade program return error: Country ID Error

i read Thread FAQ and do the step by step instruction
but still i have the problem

please send exactly what Lixtek have done and how he has solved his problem
please send me step by step instruction

Best Regards

[HDuser]

What instrctions did you follow
What rom as in file are you trying to upgrade

[simonsalo]

i have an IMATE PDA2K and now i have a problem like Lixtek had
i can't upgrade RADIO ROM
the upgrade program return error: Country ID Error

Best Regards
I am experienced at upgrading XDA 2s and have not had any problems upgrading the radio till now. I am also trying to upgrade a silver Imate version radio from the telstra proprietry radio to radio 1.15 using the no ID upgrade tool. I also get the country code ID error. Curiously this unit is slightly different to the 2s - it has a flash gun & the sim is loaded in the bottom left under the battery.

I am also having issues upgrading this unit to WM 5 (Tuma 1.3) - it says the device ROM is not compatable. I managed to reflash a 1.42 2s ROM & I can unhide / unlock the extended rom.

I also found that I cannot repartition the storage to for example 128kb. This is also has some type of flow failure.

Has anyone else successfully upgraded a silver Imate with a flash gun? PH20A

Any help would be appreciated as well.

Regards,
Simon

[aminry]

Hello

i have used this ROM
PDA2k_WWE_14000_176_11200

first i put [CHECKCEID_TYPE]=1 in RUU.CONF
second i run BaUpgradeUt.exe
but i recieve Country ID Error
i tried more than 7 times but all times i recieve country ID Error

then i used MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe
when it want to upgrade it show a panel and on 0% it return RADIO ROM Update Error

i use MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe more than 7 times but all times i recived the same error

i remove the radio_.nbf
then i can successfully upgrade
but my PDA2k does not have any GSM
and it say no GSM at start up

what should i do???
PLEASE HELP ME
what should i do?

[HDuser]

So what I understand is the with the noid...exe you can flash your rom but only if you dont have the radio.nbf in that dir.

This sounds like you have a RADIO Type I/II issue

Have you tried to flash the radio by using the wiki Radio only instructions?
Which Radio are you trying to flash?

[aminry]

Hi

yes i can update all except RADIO

i used RADIO ROM 1.2

i also have tried to RADIO ONLY UPDATE
i tried to update by Radio 1.10.00
and Radio_1.13_00_Converted_Type_I

but i recieve error

[HDuser]

Not aware of a 1.2 radio

Have you tried the 1.15 radio ?

[aminry]

excuse me it was not 1.2 it was 1.12

i tried 1.5 to but i recieved same error

[simonsalo]

This phone looks like an XDA but isn't one! This is not a Blue Angel, it is a a Harrier - CDMA phone. It says no GSM after we tried to install 1.15 because it is not GSM!!

[aminry]

is there any way that i format PDA2K ROM

because when i was upgrading my PDA2K my PC turned off
and afther that this problem occured and it show Country ID Error when i want to upgrade th ROM

is there any way that i can FORMAT it completly and afther that i upgrade the ROM

[aminry]

i still have the problem

does anyone know i can FORMAT RADIO ROM with mtty.exe?

and how i can Update RADIO rom with mtty.exe?

it seems my RADIO ROM is cruppted
because RADIO ROM version does not make any different

it always show Country ID Error
with MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe first time show Country ID Error
and second time show RADIO ROM UPDATE ERROR

[prabjit]

I have a XDAll and my IMEI Number is 3519***** and my Service Provider is T-Mobile. Please help me.

[HDuser]

Please help me do what?

Do you want to upgrade, have you followed the wiki instructions, were have you got stuck.

[xan]

it would be good to make this topic sticky...

[sangrilla]

i have an xdaiis and my rom version is 1.40.00 wwe rom date 03/10/05 radio version 1.12.00 ext rom 1.40.923
i do not know why my battery when goes below 90% the phone starts to freeze means when i recieve the call then i try to answer it does not answers and it hangs. after that i have to do a soft reset and it works for a while and then again the same problem. sometimes the phone even reset it itself.
i am tired of this problem. please do kindly help me.
i would be very grateful for you.
i live in nepal so i do not even have any service center here.
please help me
you can email me at kooldude_r@hotmail.com

[HDuser]

Sounds like you phone has a glitch in it.

I have seen unwanted resets due to bad (china) batteries (yes I bought one).

I have seen BA phone outbound calls that get cut off if batterey is below 20%.

I have seen inbound calls not been answered as the keyboard was locked but think that is an issue with I-pass.

I have read a lot of o2 users bitching about wierd things that are due to some o2 software that is preinstalled
(cant remember what it was called but had some corporate option in it). They just removed it.

In general I would sugest that you reflash (and upgrade) you device.

[heart2handle]

After following all steps in Helmi's upgrade guide, my Qtek 9090 only shows a white screen after hard reboot and choosing "YES" at the 2 last options on the bootloader screen.

Does anyone know how to get it alive again?

[HDuser]

Did you read the thread on that rom, maybe somebody else has seen something like that as well.

[YzMeN]

When i was trying to flash my radio version, to new one 1.10.00, after the hard reboot, the color screen of rebbot is always on.

This is my device information, i woul like everyone´s help.

P H 2 0 B
W W E
AT%CID?

5 . 0 3 . 0 2
1.02.00 % 4

Best Regards.................

[TheFonz_is]

ok im a newbie but please could someone give me an idiot guid on how to do this asap.

[HDuser]

@ YzMeN

Radio 1.10 is a bit old, do you realy think that you need that one, most are with 1.13 or 1.15. Try a reflash.

TheFonz_is

You need to do some reading on wiki (link at bottom).


heart2handle
I have seen this happen for about 10 mins it just sat around but then came back to life. Try a soft reset, hard reset and then a new flash.

[YzMeN]

I did what you told me to do, and i install 1.13, and now it´s working fine.
I will read that´s for sure.........



Thank´s 4 all.......

[philippopov]

Hi guys, its a greate site. I've learned a lot out of this. Thank you for doing this. Qwestion: can I use BA as WiFi network adapter via USB for my PC?

[HDuser]

Sorry I dont understand you question

The BA has wifi, which will connect you to the internet (if your wifi has a connection).

Your BA can connect over USB in the cradle to your pc and thus to the internet (if your pc can connect to the internet).

[philippopov]

I want to brows internet on my PC, want to use BA conected to PC via USB as WiFi device for conect to internet

[xplode]

The cheapest (and easyest) way is to buy wifi usb adapter

[polal]

Hi! I have a O2 xda3 (w/o camera). With every BT Headsets i have strong noise when i put my hand on PDA or something else. How I can eliminate the given problem? To change antenna? To change a microcircuit? How this PDA is arranged inside?

[HDuser]

BT and the BA is a on going if, but, how, when, why war.

There is to much info on this forum about it for me to be able to tell you who or what is winning.

So the short is it does not work the way it should, the long is read, read read and then read some more.

If you dont see any other replies to your BT question dont be offended we have just seen the same question to often and still dont have an answer.

Maybe I am wrong (which would be nice)

[adotan]

I have made a mistake, I tried to Expanding the Storage memory on WM5 OS
no my device - PDA2K is dead
I can't downroll to WM2003, the installation goes OK through radio version installation and get stack after installing 3% of the ROM

installing WM AKU3.2 with 32MB or 16MB RAM goes fine
but after HR the device and setting YES to formating storage and registry clean the white screen is just there for hours

does anyone have any idea how to go on from this point!! :confused:

my assumption is that I formatted the memory to smaller capacity then it should and therefore the new system don't have enough room to start
is there any RAM formatting SW?

[HDuser]

In a situation like this is your best option is to go back to an original 2003 install and then retry you wm5 install based on the info found in wiki.

If you resized you ext rom for wm5 then a 2003 install will fail due to the fact that the upgrade will try to install a 16mb ext rom in a location that you dont have (as you resized it).

If I was you I would
1) run the upgrade but del the ms_.nbf (the ext rom file)
This should get you device up again

2) run the resize tool to create a 16mb rom
(check wiki cant remember the number)
then run the 2003 upgrade

This will get you back were you started

Verify that all works

Then go down the wm5 track based on wiki.

Hope it helps

[adotan]

the point is that the last download there was on the WIKI (an EXE file) was not good
after downloading the BA downloading package -> everything was running smoothly

Aviad

[HDuser]

Define the last

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades

we have a whole bunch of downloads so its hard for me to get your point.

[Unobtanium]

I have a couple of questions that I would like clarified before attempting my upgrade.
1/ Do I extract the relevant folder from the operator folder and place it in the extrom folder or just leave them all where they are?

2/ The PH20B folder - where do I put this?

3/ Can somebody please clarify this part of the WIKI
Quote:
#

Modify the operator in the ROM as needed:

* Determine your operator Information e.g.: "T-MOB101", or "Vodafone", or O2. See GetDeviceData.
*

Open a command prompt, go to the folder where the ROM file resides (nk.nbf) and execute: SetOperator ??? (how do I do this?)

(where ??? is your operator)

# Copy the nk.nbf file to folder that match ur device (PH20B/PH20B1)

My biggest problem here is that I want to be sure that I understand fully what I am doing in case things get messed up - then hopefully I can recover it.

The answers are probably obvious to somebody that has done this before - but I just dont fully understand the wording.

Here is my device data:
PH20B 0 B WWE E O2___001 1.40.00 0 0 1.40.242 1.12.00 12.00

Hopefully this message is clear enough for someone to understand my questions
Thanks

[Unobtanium]

I have a couple of questions that I would like clarified before attempting my upgrade.
1/ Do I extract the relevant folder from the operator folder and place it in the extrom folder or just leave them all where they are?

2/ The PH20B folder - where do I put this?

3/ Can somebody please clarify this part of the WIKI
Quote:
#

Modify the operator in the ROM as needed:

* Determine your operator Information e.g.: "T-MOB101", or "Vodafone", or O2. See GetDeviceData.
*

Open a command prompt, go to the folder where the ROM file resides (nk.nbf) and execute: SetOperator ??? (how do I do this?)

(where ??? is your operator)

# Copy the nk.nbf file to folder that match ur device (PH20B/PH20B1)

My biggest problem here is that I want to be sure that I understand fully what I am doing in case things get messed up - then hopefully I can recover it.

The answers are probably obvious to somebody that has done this before - but I just dont fully understand the wording.

Here is my device data:
PH20B 0 B WWE E O2___001 1.40.00 0 0 1.40.242 1.12.00 12.00

Hopefully this message is clear enough for someone to understand my questions
Thanks

[imatrix]

PH20B 0 B WWE E O2___001 1.40.00 0 0 1.40.242 1.12.00 12.00

okie first your device oeprator is O2___001


1/ Do I extract the relevant folder from the operator folder and place it in the extrom folder or just leave them all where they are?


leave where they are


Open a command prompt, go to the folder where the ROM file resides (nk.nbf) and execute: SetOperator ??? (how do I do this?)



first some of the rom developer already provided that tool, so u you have to do is open up command up, browse to the folder where SetOperator.Bat is, and type

SetOpeartor O2___001

where O2___001 is your device operator. make sure the rom file is in there too (nb.kf).

after your have done, put your device in bootloader mode, then FLASH It.

good luck

[Unobtanium]

I have copied the SetOperator.bat and the nk.nbf files to the PH20B folder and whwen run from the command prompt I get the following error message - it seems to be looking for an nk.nba file instead which is not to be found anywhere?

"Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Kevin\My Documents\PDA Stuff\ROM\Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU_3.
5_v.1.4\PH20B>SetOperator.bat SetOpeartor O2___001

Setting Operator to [SetOpeartor] for ROM

'xda3nbftool' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
'xda3nbftool' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
'xda3nbftool' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
'xda3nbftool' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
Could Not Find C:\Documents and Settings\Kevin\My Documents\PDA Stuff\ROM\Helmi_
BA_WM2k5_AKU_3.5_v.1.4\PH20B\nk.nba

Completed"

Any further help would be very much appreciated

[kerio]

It seems you have never work with command shell before:)
Since this is "developers" page you should make some research - like

hmm "xda3nbftool" wasnt recognized - what is the "xda3nbftool"?
After putting it in google you will realize that this is file - so is this file in any folder i had already downloaded?

Yes it is, but what's the point? When you ran it - nothing happened :(
hmm Lets try to copy this file to the same folder so SetOperator.bat will be together with xda3nbftool.exe in the (PH20B) folder.

Waau its working! -> but
1. You can find it by your own
2. You can use google
3. And the most important you can read through wiki and use search before posting a question its amazing to find these things by yourself! Trust me:)

[Unobtanium]

kerio - thanks for your help - I had wrongly assumed an awful lot.
Please believe me I have spent many hours reading and re-reading the WIKI and forum searching - just wrong search criteria i suppose. And you are right about the command line experience - I've had none with windows although I am a Linux user so maybe I dont have an excuse.

EDIT

It all works perfectly - I have WM5 - thanks again

[angelmed88]

hi! I can connect to wifi and surf my internet through IE BUT I can't log in to my msn account. Is there any way to solve this?

[HDuser]

Try using the correct password!

[imatrix]

hi! I can connect to wifi and surf my internet through IE BUT I can't log in to my msn account. Is there any way to solve this?

that was an issue mentioned in the previous release of wm5 (probably early then aku 3.2)

current roms (aku3.5) works perfectly fine.

[bennnn]

Hi friends, I'm new to upgrading of roms and I recently gotten myself a second hand xda 2s. I would like to ask some questions which is not addressed in the wiki of xda 2s upgrading in xda-dev. Experts please help!

1. Can I keep my xda 2s 2003se rom in the ext rom? so if any problem i can always just hard reset my pda to go back to the default rom.

2. Is it really true that if something wrong happens, the pda becomes... paper weight? anyway to recover it?

do help! i'm considering to upgrade to wm5.

thanks friends!

[xykosomatik]

Hi friends, I'm new to upgrading of roms and I recently gotten myself a second hand xda 2s. I would like to ask some questions which is not addressed in the wiki of xda 2s upgrading in xda-dev. Experts please help!

1. Can I keep my xda 2s 2003se rom in the ext rom? so if any problem i can always just hard reset my pda to go back to the default rom.

2. Is it really true that if something wrong happens, the pda becomes... paper weight? anyway to recover it?

do help! i'm considering to upgrade to wm5.

thanks friends!

answers:

1. No.

2. No. Its hard to brick the BA, short of dunking it in the toilet. As long as you follow the wiki to the letter, everything should be smooth.

[bennnn]

answers:

1. No.

2. No. Its hard to brick the BA, short of dunking it in the toilet. As long as you follow the wiki to the letter, everything should be smooth.

Thanks, going to follow the wiki as per say!

downloading Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU3.5_v1.4.CF2 by baniaczek...

[kerio]

You should read the wiki one's more. Since the question "can I keep the w2003 in extrom is ULTRA-IRRELEVANT"
(First page in wiki - FAQ, or getting started/BA for beginners in BA section)

[bennnn]

You should read the wiki one's more. Since the question "can I keep the w2003 in extrom is ULTRA-IRRELEVANT"
(First page in wiki - FAQ, or getting started/BA for beginners in BA section)

Sure, will do. The wiki has tons of stuff and frankly it's not really understandable to a newbie who has never flashed before. Anyway, thanks for all your patience!

[kerio]

You can be sure - many users are able to flash just using wiki and reading the forum without a single post.

[HDuser]

Well if you need to reword wiki you can, that is what it is there for.

[thasan]

Got a couple of questions. I just put in the latest code. Since then, the display keeps coming on every 30secs or so. Is it the bug in Bluetooth that the original BlueAngel came with? If so, is there a way to turn it off?

Also, the ClearStorage functionality is now removed (the icon from the earlier version still appears in my Settings/System). What is the way to remove the icon (using Resco Explorer?) and is there a way to achieve the same functionality? I need to wipe all data and apps since I am selling mine.

Any help appreciated.

[adotan]

hi all
I was asked what are the differentness between WM5 Vs WM2003SE and except battery performances and moving the PIM to the ROM I can't say there are many more important things
can anyone in light me about this issue???

[nsfx]

Extremely Confused here after reading the wiki. Running windows 2003 on XDA iis.

If i intend to install xplode's rom instead of Baniaczek, i just need to confirm the steps.

1) Follow the instructions from steps 1 - 12 in Helmi's Rom to expand the memory. Or do we not need to follow all the 12 steps since we intend to install xplode's rom instead.

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Helmi

2) we then proceed to install Xplode's Rom using the few steps provided and it will be done and i will be running WM5?

Upgrade procedure:
1.Extract the rar somwhere in your computer
2.Open the folder in which the files were extracted
3.Copy EXTROM folder to your SD card (you may want to edit it but ... i wont include this into the instructions)
4.Put your device in Bootloader mode and place it to cradle
5.Start MAupgradeUT_NOID.exe and follow the onscreen procedure
6.Perform WM5 Hard Reset

Also, what are the main differences between the two ROMs? (Ban and Xplode) i cant find any good comparisons.

[verybyte]

Hi!

I have upgraded my BA to Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU3.5_v1.4.CF2 R2 by baniaczek, and I can't send/receive text messages. (SMS) The SMS settings are set correctly.
Can anyone a solution for this?

Thanx.

[berlin20spandau]

Hello everyone!

Do anyone know where I can find a programm which can unlock the Ext ROM from my MDA3 ?
I have a programm for my old XDA 2 but this don´t work on the MDA 3:mad: pleaz help me !
Where can I find the programm?:confused:

Thx Steve

[aries77]

I have WM05 recently on My XdaIIs, i haven't upgrade my bluetooth or radio. Where can i find my bluetooth stack ver? since i can't see it on setting > connection > bluetooth -> there's no more tab only mode, devices, COM Ports, and security... so i cannot check it.
The problem is, i have drooping transfer rate when i try to send via bluetooth to another device. exp. before i have 25-30kb/s but now i have 11 kb/s (transfer to SE K 800i)
i believe i have BT stack 3900.
i'm using Helmi - Baniaczek WM05 .CF2 R2
before upgrade i use o2 Asia ba_o2asia_14000_923_11200_ship.exe
any suggestion ?
thank you

[tonyfung820]

Hi, I have followed the step 'Getting Started With The Blue Angel' to get the DeviceData.txt. After copying the .txt to my computer and opened by Notepad. It is some unreadable words and try to edit out the double blanks and unprintable characters. However, I am unable to follow the instruction of 'Holding down the Ctrl & Shift Press the ->, (This highlights to the right of next word) Still Holding down the Ctrl & Shift Press the <- (This highlights to the left of next word) now hit Del to delete the highlight'.

Furthermore, There is no 'Device Information' icon on my device but only 'About' icon. It reads as OS 5.1.1700 (Build 14343.0.0.0).

Can some able to edit the DeviceData.txt for me and send the edited file to just4me_tony@hotmail.com so I know the information of my device. Thanks!

P.S. My device is an unknown brand PDA in Traditional Chinese of Windows Mobile 5 operating system.

[blues01]

@Tonyfung820, I think the problem is in your WM5 ROM, that's why you don't have device information and have a screw up devicedata.txt.
But it could be that the seller removed the device information icon to another tab, try to look around in your PDA.
If you still can't find it, try to soft reset, when your PDA booting up, you can see information on your device on the right lower corner when on four stripes screen.

[blues01]

@berlin20spandau, I don't know if you still need this or already find it, but here is the link:
ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/BA_WM5/Tools/xda-developers_Unlocker.CAB

[boost868]

Hi My Current DeviceData reads:
PH20B 0 B WWE E O2ASI001 1.40.0000 1.12.00 12.00. I bought my pda in Singapore. I would like to upgrade to WM5. I have spent the whole day to read the wiki page, but still a bit confuse :S There are so many versions... I don't know which version below I should upgrade to... Can anyone can spare your 2 cents? Thx

Aku 3.5 WM5 Helmi v1.4.CF2 R2
AKU3.5.2 R5 Rom Kitchen v2
Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU3.5_v1.4.CF2
Helmi Aku.2.3 v1 Beta
Helmi BA WM2k5 AKU3.2 Beta (v.1.3.2 Beta)
BA_5.1.1700_build_14343_Upgrade_EXTENDED_ROM

[kerio]

Simply follow the wiki... there is recommended one.

[blues01]

I suggest you try Bacniazek Helmi AKU 3.5 CF2 R2 or Xplode R5 Kitchen. I haven't tried Xplode R5 but I've tried R4.1 n it's good.
Bacniazek CF2 R2 also good n I'm using it right now, it's fast but sometimes a little bit slow specially when BA just wake up. I don't know if the problem is on my BA or the ROM.
The rest of the ROM is old version n you shouldn't use it unless you have special reason. Anyway the choice is yours.
I hope it enough to help you, I'm just newbie too :D

[boost868]

Thanks for the info blues01. That's all I wanted to know. Thx again

[jesusodin]

Hi Guys, Been reading the information on how to upgrade my Sys & radio Rom but with no luck. I was able to upgrade the extended Rom but I'm stuck with the other 2. This is the info I get on my SX66:

PH20B1 B 1 WWE E XGULA001 1.33.10 1 0 1.42.126 1.02.10 02.10

This is what I'm doing:
-Downloaded the Rom tools as well as the The Sys & radio Roms & unpacked them to a BA folder.
-Downloaded maupgrade file & put it in the same folder.
-Connected my USB cable to the SX66.
-did a soft reset & ran maupgrade......

The thing is that the program doesn't see the 2 rom files, I hit "next" & just stays checking info on the device for 20 secs or so & that it; it says that it's upgraded but it's the same Rom version.....

Can someone please help??. What am i doing wrong??.

thanks.

[snakefreak]

Hello i like to update my vpa lll to winmobile 2k5 or to linux when the phone (gsm,sms,mms) , wifi and sd controler works.

Devicedata reads:

PH20B2 B 2 GER R VODAP102 * 1.22.01 0 1 1.22.163 1.06.00 06.00

sim is not locket
Device was sold as vodafone germany vpa lll

can anybody tell me the files i need ?
German rom when possible otherwise english
Links when possible?

ps. Sorry for my bad english.
Pps. i only have inet over wifi hotspots.

thanks snakefreak

[jesusodin]

I managed to get into bootloader mode but stil maupgrade can't see the sysrom & radio file:confused:

Please help.

[blues01]

@snakefreak:try these 2 latest ROMs, baniaczek CF2 R2 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301533 n Xplode AKU3.5.2 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302335. I'm sorry I didn't give you direct link to the ROMS but I think you should better the threads too.
@jesusodin: which radio n sys rom that you have on your BA now? Are they older than the radio n sys rom which you want to upgrade to?
PS: Sorry for my bad english

[jesusodin]

@snakefreak:try these 2 latest ROMs, baniaczek CF2 R2 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301533 n Xplode AKU3.5.2 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302335. I'm sorry I didn't give you direct link to the ROMS but I think you should better the threads too.
@jesusodin: which radio n sys rom that you have on your BA now? Are they older than the radio n sys rom which you want to upgrade to?
PS: Sorry for my bad english

Hey Blues01, thanks for taking the time to answer. I was able to upgrade my BA from 1.33 to 1.42 & the radio from 1.02 to 1.15. The ROM I was trying to load was not recognized by Maupgrade; found another ROM 1.42 & that did the trick.

jo.

[snakefreak]

thanls for the reply i will read^^

[DevisionHUN]

Hi!

Is there any possibility that the new WM6 will run on the BlueAngels?
My WM5 is like, outstanding, but bluetooth management is still a little crappy. And a facelift is always worth some time...

Thanks!

[EgorLev]

Hi everyone. I’m trying to upgrade from wm2003 to wm5. I have downloaded Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU3.5_v1 .4.CF2.R2.rar archive, but the content of it dose not match the instructions, given on http://wiki.xda -developers.com/index .php?pagename=Helmi i.e. it doesn’t have PH20B & PH20B1 folders and in ExtROM folder it has only PocketMSN, Terminal Services, Transcriber CABs. Not the sing of other thinks, that is listed on web page above. Finally MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe gives me Connection error 101. I’m using now WWE1.40 + ActiveSync4.5. What should I do?

[caforever25]

hi, i have a VPA compact vodafone PM10B, after trying to upgrade it it switched off and on my screen there is only serial or USB and v1.02
please let me know a solution either if it's on my e-mail: caforever25@yahoo.fr
thank you very much

[tuannghia1985]

Hi everyone. I’m trying to upgrade from wm2003 to wm5. I have downloaded Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU3.5_v1 .4.CF2.R2.rar archive, but the content of it dose not match the instructions, given on http://wiki.xda -developers.com/index .php?pagename=Helmi i.e. it doesn’t have PH20B & PH20B1 folders and in ExtROM folder it has only PocketMSN, Terminal Services, Transcriber CABs. Not the sing of other thinks, that is listed on web page above. Finally MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe gives me Connection error 101. I’m using now WWE1.40 + ActiveSync4.5. What should I do?



Yup !!! i have this problem too, but first thing appear in my mind is this the problem of USB craddle ???

Because i can't sync my blue angel with activsync 4.5 or ever 4.0,4.2...i'm use wm2003se and sync with xp, so it can't be the vista USB problem...


Enter boot loader is recoznige USB but can't do anything such as flash or something. Just see only


USB(Serial)




V 2.07



It's like that. then no light, this ecran is totally no light on in boot loader .

please help me !!!

[fr4nky]

hello ! I have a Qtek 9090 (blueangel) pocket pc but the shipped language is in "french" . I like to upgrade to a version in english or dutch. I have searched the site but I wasn't able to find any matching upgrades.
can you help me out please ?

my device data :

model n° :PH20B 0B
language code: FRE E
operator code : DANGA 203
rom version : 1.22.02 02
extended rom version : 1.22.127
radio version : 1.06.00 06.00

Grtz ! Fr4nky :)

[HDuser]

First upgrade your radio to 1.15 follow the wiki instuctions for that.

Next you need to decided if you want to stay with 2003 or move on to WM6.

If your choice is WM2003 then I am sure you ca find a dutch version however they are no longer on our ftp site.

If you can live with English you could go to WM6 by following the wiki upgrade links.

As for a dutch lang pack I would have to pass as this has never intrested me. Try search on "WM6 Dutch".

Hope that helps

[fr4nky]

I think I will try with the english version.
Thanks a lot to help me out .
I'm gonne get started right away!

grtz. Fr4nky

[fr4nky]

Hi there !

2 days ago I've upgrated my 'blueangel' (qtek 9090) from windows mobile 2003 (in french) to windows mobile 6 (in english WWE) . Everything is working great , exept for one little thing. The keyboard of my phone (hardware) is in 'azerty' but the keyboard build-in from wm6 is in 'qwerty'. So when I use the keyboard of my phone , the characters do not respond to those I've pressed . for example the 'a' is getting 'q' , the 'z' is getting 'w' , ect.
Is there any way I can change the keyboard settings in Wm6 to 'azerty' ?

please help me out ,
many thanks . Fr4nky :)

[HDuser]

Use the search funtion (top right hand side)
Click on advanced search
Type in "hardware keyboard"
Set the forum to Blueangel.

Rest is up to you.
Its Regkey setting that you need to change.

[fr4nky]

thanks
:)

[fr4nky]

hello again

Still having the problem that my wm6 keyboard is in qwerty while my hardware keyboard is in azerty .
Yesterday you told me something about changing a registry key in wm6.
Excuse me for asking but this is all a bit new for me :confused:
could you be a bit more specific about that issue ?
What steps I need to take or what tools I need for the job.
Is there not an easyer way to solve the problem?
I searched the forum like you told me but I wasen't able to find any patch or link or understandeble (for me) explenation how to fix it??

please help me out (i'd be very thankfull:) )

grtz. Fr4nky

[fr4nky]

please , anybody !
by the way my original version was wm 2003 se in french (FRE E) and now it's updated to wm6 in english (WWE) .

[fr4nky]

PROBLEM SOLVED !!!! YES !!!

my problem involving changing keyboard from querty into azerty .
I had problems to edit the registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\QWERTY
because I used PHM REGISTRY EDITOR.

The editor seems not to work with WM6 !
only with older versions of windows mobile.

I searched the net and found CeRegistryEditor, installed it, sync'd my device with my pc and changed the registry key into the code for 'french keyboard',
rebooted my device and BINGOOOOOOO!!!!!

grtz. everyone ! Fr4nky;)

[Bla_Bla]

I dont know wot to do more...

I just got an SPV m2000 but it freezes on bootloader...

I try to upgrade the rom (wm5, wm2003) but remains the same...

When i put on bootlader it saids: "Serial (or USB)", DOC version is error!, v2.08.

Wot can i do???

Thank you!

[HDuser]

If you see the serial text, then dump it in the cradel and run the Upgarde program. How to is in the WM6 section on wiki.

[Bla_Bla]

If you see the serial text, then dump it in the cradel and run the Upgarde program. How to is in the WM6 section on wiki.

I just did that... i upgraded to wm5, then wm6, downgraded to 2003 and still nothing...

Wots the meaning onf DOC version is error!?

[Bla_Bla]

If you see the serial text, then dump it in the cradel and run the Upgarde program. How to is in the WM6 section on wiki.

I just got it with 2003se but i dont have extended rom...
when it is about to install it it gives an error...

And i use it for a bit and then it freezes...

[Newcomer0]

I just got it with 2003se but i dont have extended rom...
when it is about to install it it gives an error...


hey! i've also an spv m2000 and the same problem, can't run unhide/ unlock EXTRom Tools! it's giving an error! does sb know why?

I've also an other problem:

Is The WM6 working on the spv m 2000 because I can't test it with GetDeviceData.exe (directory \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\XDA-Tools\ is missing!)

im worried about the various names,is the spv m 2000 an PH20A2 (Harrier) / CDMA device ? thanks a lot!

[azzomo]

I have read through every thing and was unable to find a solution so now i seak help.

i can't sync my blue angel with activsync 4.5 or ever 4.0,4.2...i'm use wm2003se and sync with xp, so it can't be the vista USB problem...


Enter boot loader is recoznige USB but can't do anything such as flash or something. Just see only


USB(Serial)




V 2.07



It's like that. then no light, this ecran is totally no light on in boot loader . so i cant do any thing

please help me !!! x

[jdc]

i can't sync my blue angel with activsync 4.5 or ever 4.0,4.2...i'm use wm2003se and sync with xp, so it can't be the vista USB problem...What makes you say that? If it works with XP, then why would that make it work with vista (a very different environment) automatically?

Enter boot loader is recoznige USB but can't do anything such as flash or something. Just see only
USB(Serial)
2.07
It's like that. then no light, this ecran is totally no light on in boot loader . so i cant do any thingUm, no you can't do anything really when it's in boot loader besides flash a new ROM, and no, the backlight doesn't turn on when the phone is in bootloader mode.

Try some of the suggestions in the thread located here:

http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsMobile/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2265011&SiteID=65

I'm afraid that I can't offer much else as I know better than to install vista on any of my machines. ;)

[azzomo]

hey sorry to bother again. My xda which is a ph20b2, has gone all funny. I tried to upgrade it and it seem to be goin fine until alert flashed on my screen. it said i should check i had the power supply in and so on. and so i checked and tried again, but when i pressed the button to restart the process the computer did not even know the xda was connected. so i picked up the xda to have a gud look at it. The only writing it had was serial at the top and 2.07 at the bottom.
When i connected it wid the usb the serial will change to usb. I have tried the advice in the previous post which does not work.
i seak some urgent help and p.s vista is not all dat bad, and i do swich between
them. x

[s00tsup]

Well, I'd like to ask the same that I posted in here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2227480#post2227480

Well I'm trying to unlock a QTEK 9090 and I used to unlockers (Everything is on the post) but after I resert it sometimes it says out of service and the others it justs keeps trying to find the network.

Thanks.

[azzomo]

please can someone reply. x

[s00tsup]

Yes. Can someone reply please?

At least say no I dont know but go here or if you have no ideas tell us that so we know that someone read our post. :/

Thanks.

[HDuser]

s00tsup

The way I see it is that you are having problems with the Sim Unlock on your device.

Here are a few facts that I know are true.
- The software works and has worked for many users before you.
- I am not aware of ever reading such a problem with a BA since I have been on this site.
- your phone has radio 12.00 and 2003 1.40 rom which makes it not even up to date on for a 2003 device.

Now we know for a fact that the BA has been on the market for a long time.

There are 2 possibilaties that I feel could be true.

1) Its yours, you have had it for years and its only now that you have found the site and been confronted with the Lock issue

2) You brought this phone locked of some guy that once before had that problem and as he clould not solve so he sold it to you.

So it is hard to know if you have a problem with the software or if the software has a problem with your phone.

Try to upgrade the radio and report back.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Radio_1.15_Upgrade

[HDuser]

There is no information in the below that allows anybody to give you a quilfied answer or help you out.

Try to reword the whole thing in a form that helps us help you.

I have a ph20b2
I connected my device to my vista machine and I have never had problems sysncing with outlook so I feel this can not be an issue based on my Vista instalation.
I followed the instructions that I found on www.xda.wiki.were_ever.
I used the files found here.
On step 5 I get the following error message ....

Might help you help yourself.

hey sorry to bother again. My xda which is a ph20b2, has gone all funny. I tried to upgrade it and it seem to be goin fine until alert flashed on my screen. it said i should check i had the power supply in and so on. and so i checked and tried again, but when i pressed the button to restart the process the computer did not even know the xda was connected. so i picked up the xda to have a gud look at it. The only writing it had was serial at the top and 2.07 at the bottom.
When i connected it wid the usb the serial will change to usb. I have tried the advice in the previous post which does not work.
i seak some urgent help and p.s vista is not all dat bad, and i do swich between
them. x

[s00tsup]

s00tsup

The way I see it is that you are having problems with the Sim Unlock on your device.

Here are a few facts that I know are true.
- The software works and has worked for many users before you.
- I am not aware of ever reading such a problem with a BA since I have been on this site.
- your phone has radio 12.00 and 2003 1.40 rom which makes it not even up to date on for a 2003 device.

Now we know for a fact that the BA has been on the market for a long time.

There are 2 possibilaties that I feel could be true.

1) Its yours, you have had it for years and its only now that you have found the site and been confronted with the Lock issue

2) You brought this phone locked of some guy that once before had that problem and as he clould not solve so he sold it to you.

So it is hard to know if you have a problem with the software or if the software has a problem with your phone.

Try to upgrade the radio and report back.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Radio_1.15_Upgrade

Thank you a lot MDAIIIUser for answering, I really apreciate that.

Since I have this PocetPC, I have been using it with a SIM so I had no needs to try to unlock it, but right now I need to unlock it for using a SIM that my company gave me.

I am going to try to unlock the radio and post back. Again, thanks a lot for answering.


Thanks.

[s00tsup]

Hello.

I already upload the radio (This is the DeviceData.txt):

PH20B 0 B ESN N TELCE301 
  1.40.03 0 3 1.40.178 1.15.00 15.00

I run the ISO-8859-1''xdadev_all_unlock-v1.6_138.exe and it says it unlocks it, the log is this:

xdadev_all_unlock started
device=PH20B
key found
ril ioctl 0xc2: 00000000
simlock answer: %SIMLOCK= 00

0

current lock status: 00
security answer:

000

security answer2:
at%LISTNETWORKCODE answer: 0

at%LISTNETSUBCODE answer: 0

at%LISTSPCODE answer: 0

at%LISTCORPORATECODE answer: 0

at%LISTSIMCODE answer: 0

at%LISTIMSIRANGECODE answer: 0

at%CLEARNETWORKCODE answer:
at%CLEARNETSUBCODE answer:
at%CLEARSPCODE answer:
at%CLEARCORPORATECODE answer:
at%CLEARSIMCODE answer:
at%CLEARIMSIRANGECODE answer:
simlock answer:
invalid sim lock answer
xdadev_all_unlock done
ril ioctl 0xc2: 00000000
ril ioctl 0xc6: 00000000

And I soft reset it after it says that. Then I turn on the pocket and it says out of service.

Thanks for any ideas you could give me.

Thanks.

[HDuser]

You sure your sim is still active? As in can you confirm that you can make a call with that sim on any other device.

[Inquinador]

I need to do a downgrade to an original ROM but i cant find any.
I tried the "Shipped_Complete_Updates" but they are no longer there.
Where could i download it?!?!?
PDA2k_PTB_12205_179_10600_SHIP.exe
This is the one i want!
I searched everywere!!!

[s00tsup]

Yep. I even used another SIM and it says out of service. What could it be?


Thanks

[s00tsup]

So?
Thanks.

[Spixe]

This doesn't look good .. I've just flashed my Qtek 9090 with the WM6, but when i hard resetted it, it just stays at the white screen. It has been there for 10 min now i think. Is my BA dead? :S

Spixe

[89ls1]

I am trying to upgrade my 8525 to WM6 by following the Phone flashing guide. But for some reason I am to dumb to even get the CID unlock done with HTC Hermes SIM & CID Unlock - v3a. Some one please help.