Siemens SX66 Upgraded coming this week....I hope!

[tommc4]

Last Monday, Feb 7, I spoke with Wayne Achaka at Siemens North America in San Francisco. He assured me that they have a firmware update coming out by the end of this week (that would be Feb 18) for the SX66.

He stated that it fixes the Bluetooth issues, especially with the Jabra 250, and improved the Wi-fi support, as well as some other issues which he declined to elaborate on.

Now, I AM concerned that they are going to try some trick in disabling the use of the phone as a modem when connected with a laptop...that is the purported reason Cingular took it off the website for now. I don't use it that way, but I wonder if anyone else has, and how it can be done...!!!

I will post again as soon as I see the upgrade is available.

[AdmiralAK]

I dont use my phone that way - but lets see what happens. better WiFi is welcomed. This week the WiFi connects to my network but has trouble maintaining the connection. Odd

[BeyondtheTech]

What intrigues me is that Siemens says they're coming out with an update, but isn't i-Mate or HTC really the ones who come out with an update first, then all the other "manufacturers" release theirs, possibly with Extended ROM updates? Wouldn't all other manufacturers or carriers be behind or at most up-to-par with i-Mate or HTC?

[HDuser]

Food for thought

The siemens is a PH20B1 device thus not on par with the others PH2OB.
The version 1.22, 1.31, 1.35 upgrade is a conbination of the Windows version (CE) as well as patches that have been intergrated into the version.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_131vs122

Based on a user that tried to update the CE portion (only is what I understtod) of the 1.35 NZ Telcom (a non gsm system) and failed I feel it is safe to say that the major version also adds components (such as protocol) that are not seen in other version of the same number.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=91220#91220

Thus as users all that we can realy do is cook our exteneded rom to the best know up to date postion which is why we have the kitchen.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_RomKitchen

I have found no infomation anywere that tells me what is infact in ms.ndf and we fail to have a tool that extracts that.

[efjay]

link to firmware http://communications.siemens.com/cds/frontdoor/0,2241,us_en_0_21774_rArNrNrNrN_prodId%3A76051,00. html#Firmware

[gbutler6721]

anyone brave enough to put on a pda2k?

[BeyondtheTech]

Look closely at the 1.35 WWE thread... I'm that bumbling user! :oops: I tried it and thought I hosed my PDA2K entirely - it wouldn't boot past the first splash screen! Thank God I was able to access the bootloader (searched this site for some kind soul who provided the key combination: Power + Reset + Record) and reinstate the previous firmware.

So, I feel safer to give this Siemens upgrade a try on my PDA2K. I'll report back as soon as I have an update. Hopefully it'll fix my damn 05 text message issue for voicemail.

[HDuser]

BeyondtheTech
I did, before I posted it!

If you get anywere can you do an install with a flushed rom.

Things I would like to know for the kitchen.

Camera, (is there or not) if so what does about report as version and build nr.

BT, What does about report and what do the modules report.

Protocol version

Wifi is it around.

What does windows version and build report.

Still have the q about how you did that intersting upgrade as it has been reported that the password did not work.

[gbutler6721]

Beyond - I did see your post in the other thread yesterday. I'm glad, because you kept me from doing the same thing. A client has a 1.32 rom on a cdma audiovox 6600, and his bluetooth works great. (which is why I was sorely tempted!) Please let me know your findings on bluetooth and if it has wmp 10.

[HDuser]

First country code error which was expected.
Then ran fixbat
Came up with header error
The ran for the fun of it BaUpgradeUt.exe
Came up with checksum error which was also expected.

Looks like we are all back to 1.31 Arabic with 1.06.00 FRA.

Would be nice if somebody would solve the password issues

[BeyondtheTech]

The encryption method is definitely different. It may have been encrypted twice, or that there are two operations instead of just the XOR.

Here's what I know.

1.22's CE ROM password is 0x20040521. Looking into the HTCRUU.DLL file when you extract the self-executable upgrade utility, you can actually see all three passwords at offset 9F83h, 9F8Ah, and 9F91h. Funny thing is that the same passwords are in the RUU.DLL file of the SX66 Update.

A proper XOR decryption of 1.22 CE ROM will show the NK.NBA to have the NBF header and a near-full page of zeros. The corresponding NBF file will show the unXORed data of 21 05 04 20 21 05 04 20 .... Obviously XORing that value will bring back the zeros, as it's shown in the NBA file.

However, looking at the SX66's ROM file, the encrypted data shows 19 E8 7B B6 ... Performing an XOR will turn all those into zeros, but the header is still scrambled.

Also, the end of the SX66's encrypted ROM file, when unencrypted is supposed to be zeroes, just like the unencrypted 1.22 CE ROM file. However, at the end of the SX66's encrypted ROM file, it's 66 00 0B 20 ... Yes, XOR'ing that will result in zeros, but the start of the file is still garbage.

Anyone following me yet?

There's more to the decryption than just the XOR now.

[HDuser]

BeyondtheTech

Now you are showing your true colors.

There is a thread on the encription that I dont have saved on this pc.

The xda3tool reports a not a valid header when run agaisnt the siemens 1.35 which could be due to a header change or a encription method. I pass on which one.

Given that you have found the password can you check it against the qtec 169 that always came up with a password error. May be a new one is also stored in the dll. DOwnload found on wiki. thread below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=79215#79215

Anyone (as in you) following me ?

[sherko]

link to firmware http://communications.siemens.com/cds/frontdoor/0,2241,us_en_0_21774_rArNrNrNrN_prodId%3A76051,00. html#Firmware

Thanks Man, is not this suppose be available next week as per tommc4? or this is a different firmware?

Another CONCERN: Why is the firmware 37 M in size? does it mean it will replace the old one without using 37M or not?

thanks

[BeyondtheTech]

BeyondtheTech
Given that you have found the password can you check it against the qtec 169 that always came up with a password error. May be a new one is also stored in the dll. DOwnload found on wiki. thread below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=79215#79215


If you change the those hex bytes in the DLL file, the upgrade utility will say the CE file is corrupt. So, I'm thinking it may be related, but it's only part of the algorithm.

I'm convinced there's a second mathematical operation but I don't know what it is. I haven't been able to decrypt the nk.nbf at all, and it's driving me nucking futs. I'm not a good mathematician, either. In either case, I think XDA3NBFTOOL.EXE is due for an upgrade. Who made it, anyhoo?

[BeyondtheTech]

Anyone else notice that the latest NBF file is 44 bytes longer than the previous versions (1.22 and 1.31)?

[sherko]

Guys, can we upgrade our SiemensXS66 with this firmware: http://communications.siemens.com/cds/frontdoor/0,2241,us_en_0_21774_rArNrNrNrN_prodId%3A76051,00. html#Firmware

[sherko]

Guys, can we upgrade our SiemensXS66 with this firmware: http://communications.siemens.com/cds/frontdoor/0,2241,us_en_0_21774_rArNrNrNrN_prodId%3A76051,00. html#Firmware

Please can someone answer my question.

[sherko]

Please can someone answer my question????

"Guys, can we upgrade our SiemensXS66 with this firmware: http://communications.siemens.com/cds/frontdoor/0,2241,us_en_0_21774_rArNrNrNrN_prodId%3A76051,00. html#Firmware"

[BeyondtheTech]

The answer is YES. The upgrade is for the Siemens SX66 for use on Cingular's network.

It should be obvious, considering the picture of the unit and the model number and the fact that everyone including myself has been trying for the past week or so to find ways to make it work on all HTC BlueAngel GSM models, not just the SX66.

[sherko]

Thank you for your response, is this upgrade worthful? because, I have seen some people are saying they might disable using PocketpcPhone as wireless modem function.

[Woodalia]

I dont use my phone that way - but lets see what happens. better WiFi is welcomed. This week the WiFi connects to my network but has trouble maintaining the connection. Odd

total noob here and feeling kinda retarded. and just so no one jumps all over my post, i did a lot of reading on the how to's and still struggling. i have same phone (siemens sx66) but don't understand how all the versions in quote above are much higher than mine. also att also unlocked. can i use any rom update that is wwe? i don't need any of the cingular service protocol. having trouble using BT plantronics 590 and my bt stack is 3500. looks like i can make significant upgrades if i could figure out where/how. even read about going to 5.0 using ivan. is this an option?
boy i would really appreciate any input that would point me in the right direction.
also found someone sporting this device data:

Siemens SX66 - Blue Angel PH20B1
WM2003SE 4.21.1088 B15159.2.6.4
ROM: 1.42.00 WWE 09/05/05
Radio: 1.15.00
Protocol: 1337.45
ExtROM: 1.42.115 WWE Cooked
Broadcom BT-PPC/PE V1.0.0 B3900

please help. have a wonderful night all,