Bluesoleil BT stack + manager, stable and more profiles

[Heimiko]

I found out about this BT stack driver through a thread regarding the toshiba BT stack driver, so i thought: other driver, other thread :wink:

Original thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15604
Download BlueSoleil CE here: http://ivtcorporation.com/download/BlueSoleil_Download.php#bluesoleilforce
Credits for finding this BT stack go to: rdkay

It has a lot more profiles then the standard MS stack.
Occording to their web site, supported profiles are:
PAN, OPP, SYNC, LAP, DUN, FTP, FAX, HID, SPP, HCRP, BIP, Headset, AV

The manager that comes along with it, is also a lot better then the standard one, more options, more playing around :)

I played around with it for a while, and i think it is rock sollid. Although I have only tested the SPP profile (with BT GPS). It never crashed, not even on suspend & resume. The radio will be deactivated during suspend though. For me this is perfect, because it will save battery life.
On resume, it will be automatically reactivated.

Installation procedure:

- Download Bluesoleil CE: http://www.bluesoleil.com/update/index.asp

- Before install, delete these reg keys:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\BTIcon]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\microsoft\bluetooth]

- Reboot PPC
- Install Bluesoleil CE

- During setup on PPC select Manual -> USB driver, then let setup reboot

This next step is optional, do this only when you have troubles with your GPRS connection (a newly installed network driver prevents it from operating properly on my device) Delete following reg keys:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\BTNIC]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\BTNIC1]
Reboot once more

Finished! enjoy :D

[lars_juhl]

Sorry to spoil the celebrations, but I have already tried this stack. Indeed it works fine - except for the dirty details mentioned on the download page:

"Note: If your Bluetooth Hardware device (such as USB Dongle) is not licensed by IVT for using with BlueSoleil, any BlueSoleil version downloaded here can only be used as evaluation version, only 5M data can be transfered through Bluetooth link in evaluation version."

Unfortunately this is true - it shuts down the connection after transfer of 5Mb and after some time (a couple of weeks?) it no longer functions at all. I would be happy to buy the full version of this Bluetooth stack for my MDA Compact, but sadly the company does not seem willing to sell it. :(

[wroet]

I found out about this BT stack driver through a thread regarding the toshiba BT stack driver, so i thought: other driver, other thread :wink:

(...)

Finished! enjoy :D

WOW :lol:

is this the solution i've been looking for, for my Parrot CK3000 carkit?

Just 3 questions before i will try this one tonight:

- Is it un-installable? (cause you change the regkeys)
- You had no problems with ActiveSync? Cause i would really feel bad loosing that!
- If it works on the Magican, it should also work on my dutch MDA Compact (T-Mobile, but ROM upgraded to 1.06, radio 1.05) right?


Thomas

[wroet]

Sorry to spoil the celebrations, (...)

I want a crack crack crack!!!???

anybody?

(If they are not willing to sell it...)

[Heimiko]

Sorry to spoil the celebrations, but I have already tried this stack. Indeed it works fine - except for the dirty details mentioned on the download page:

"Note: If your Bluetooth Hardware device (such as USB Dongle) is not licensed by IVT for using with BlueSoleil, any BlueSoleil version downloaded here can only be used as evaluation version, only 5M data can be transfered through Bluetooth link in evaluation version."

Unfortunately this is true - it shuts down the connection after transfer of 5Mb and after some time (a couple of weeks?) it no longer functions at all. I would be happy to buy the full version of this Bluetooth stack for my MDA Compact, but sadly the company does not seem willing to sell it. :(

aaaahjjj, bummer!! Have you tried emailing the company, asking if you could buy it from them? As far as it seems now, this stack is working perfectly, and I am REALY happy if I could buy it from them........

[Heimiko]

Just 3 questions before i will try this one tonight:

- Is it un-installable? (cause you change the regkeys)
- You had no problems with ActiveSync? Cause i would really feel bad loosing that!
- If it works on the Magican, it should also work on my dutch MDA Compact (T-Mobile, but ROM upgraded to 1.06, radio 1.05) right?
Thomas

- You should make a backup of the reg keys you delete, only then it will be reversible.
- No problems with activesync of any kind.
- I have radio version 1.05 myself, so for that it should work. For ROM however, I have version 1.03, since too many ppl were complaining about bugs & instability.

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Also, I have written an email to their company, asking if they would sell it, and howmuch it would cost. Lets see if we'd get some awnser. I could live with a 60 days limit (i would reinstall my PPC long before that), but a 5 meg limit....... :?

[Loboman]

So, which devices are licensed?

[Heimiko]

Found a configuration file, so we can do some additional tinkering :wink:

File: \Windows\bttl.ini

[Heimiko]

The following file has obviously to do with the license for application.
I suspect, that if we might be successfull with tickering in this file, we might get a full blown version. But lets first wait if I get awnsers from the company if they'd sell it; I prefer a legal version.

License File: \Windows\IVTLicConf.dat

Also, an additional ini file, that appears to be the same (?) as my first reported bttl.ini : \Windows\BTDynamicConfig.ini

[xlephant]

for me it is working perfect. thx a lot heimiko.

[Pc78]

Anybody tried this stuck with BT headsets...?...I would like to know if it works with SE HBH-660 or some other BT headset supporting Caller ID...

Regards,
Primoz

[xlephant]

with the parrot ck3300 it works just perfect...

[wroet]

with the parrot ck3300 it works just perfect...

Xlephant: I was really looking for a good stack for my ck3000 also! Can you tell me if it allows me to upload the phone numbers to my carkit also and use the voicedialing app inside the ck3000? (Cause with my old Sony Ericsson T610 I could)

:shock:

Thomas

[xlephant]

don't know much about the ck3000. but i have no problems to upload the phonebook with this stack. but i was also be able to upload it with the ms stack(the ck3300 works perfect with the ms stack). i swaped the stack only because of the PAN profil.

[wwensley]

I don't understand what everyone is getting excited about. If you cannot buy it, then it is useless to me.

Regards,

William

[xlephant]

thats true but i think there should be a way to buy it or to reset the 5mb limit.

[Largo_Winzclav]

Hello,

Does this stack allow voice dialing with a bluetooth headset ?

Thanks in advance...

[bamse]

Hello,

Does this stack allow voice dialing with a bluetooth headset ?

Thanks in advance...

It should, provided you have a dialer app that does. And as the bluetooth is switched off in standby you would have to initiate the dial-up from the device, not from the headset.

[fishbone]

What do you mean by the radio will be deactivated during suspend? The Bluetooth radio or won't I be able to recieve any incomming calls on my MDA Compact?

Has anyone actually experienced any of the mentioned limitations, i.e. 5 MB limit, etc.?

Cheers for the reply!

[ramram]

I should try it :D

[ID64]

I've installed it. Unfortunately, it can't find any services on my Bluespoon AX headset :shock:

[wroet]

Installed it too, got it working with activesync very good, but thats about all i could do (also share my internet connection from my pc with IE, MSN etc...)

But no luck with my Carkit (Parrot CK3000) not even just calling, wich i could do with the MS stack so i will return to the original


Thomas

[webbear]

I've installed it. Unfortunately, it can't find any services on my Bluespoon AX headset :shock:


No services in my I-tech headset too :x

[xlephant]

weird. with my ck3300 it is working perfect. did you pair again?

[ID64]

weird. with my ck3300 it is working perfect. did you pair again?

I've tried to pair it twice, it finds it, but says no services available on this device

[vs1]

weird. with my ck3300 it is working perfect. did you pair again?
What do you mean with "perfect" ?
On a fresh MDAC I have a Headset-Profile, this works with Parrot Systems (actual OS needed). It could be perfekt for me, if there's any way to get the Hands-Free profile or better the Sim-Access-Profile, but I can't find informations about supporting these profiles at Bluesoleil....

Can anyone tell me something more?

Thanks for help....

vs1

[YRLS]

Come on guys! Let's do ur best to find a way for an unlimeted BT stack 8)

[Heimiko]

They awnsered my email!

They are asking how many peaces I wish to buy. I guess they normally don't sell to end-sonsumers like us. I propose to make a count of ppl who wish to buy this stack, so we could do a groupbuy on this, maybe that'll get them to sell it, so, if anyone's interested in buying, post a reply that you are interested.....

I'm using the stack for a few days now. My major issue with it, that it installs this BT network driver, that tell's the OS that it has connection, even though it doesn't (it assumes it's online). So when I try to use my GPRS, it doesn't make a connection, cause it thinks it has a better one, with the BT network.
But..... by disabling this driver, you not also enable yourself to have propper GPRS again, you also disable PAN .... now, i'm working on a workaround (small app to quickly enable / disable this BT driver) Stay tuned :D

SO! who for groupbuy?

[anansky]

hi, folks !
btsoleil_ce from btsoleil/com, downloaded for evaluation purposes.
5mb per connection limitation applies ONLY to desktop version for WinXP.
For winCE pocket they apply another limitation - 60-days evaluation period.

So, you can use this bt stack 60 days free without any limitation.

But 60 days is over - no problem.

Just delete following registry keys
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Time
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\First

and enjoy next 60-day evaluation period :)

[Tpot]

I'm interested if the price is right?

[icarusbop]

Yep I'll buy if it;s the right price

[Heimiko]

hi, folks !
btsoleil_ce from btsoleil/com, downloaded for evaluation purposes.
5mb per connection limitation applies ONLY to desktop version for WinXP.
For winCE pocket they apply another limitation - 60-days evaluation period.

So, you can use this bt stack 60 days free without any limitation.

But 60 days is over - no problem.

Just delete following registry keys
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Time
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\First

and enjoy next 60-day evaluation period :)

Ah, cool, thanks. Now to hope, that we can find something simular for the bandwidth usuage. I will get around searching for that, when my bandwidth has actualy been exceeded.

For now, just assume the prices will be right. Just wanna know how much interest there actualy is....... (but euhm, if there will be a few simple registry tweaks to accomplish a fully working version, my interest in buying will degrade to zero). So lets just assume, that there's no way in bypassing the bandwith issue.

[PapaDocta]

can it be installed into the SD card or it has to be in the main memory?!

thanks

[Heimiko]

Darn, i should learn to read, haha.

Ignore my previous post, including the groupbuy.

Let's celibrate :D

[Heimiko]

Anyone got a solution for the GPRS verses BT network yet? or am I really the only one with this issue?

[rdkay]

I have also sent them a mail when I discovered their bluetooth stack... never got a response ! :x

I would definitely pay BUT:

I want also the A2DP ( Advanced Audio Distribution Profile) as now there are some really cool Stereo Bluetooth Headsets available which I want to buy.... :P

So If they add this profile I am in! :)

Cheers,
Rainer

[MotoBarSteward]

Now I'm confused!
Are you all saying that if I install this stack and I'm prepared to delete these two registry keys every 60 days then this will work with no transfere limit? Could code be written that runs on the XDAIIs that checks for these keys and deletes them if it finds them? My reason for wanting to use this stack is that I have a GTEK BLUETREK G2 headphone and it doesn't work very well.

[icarusbop]

Hello: I'm having problems with this. I followed the instalaltion instructions, at the end it reboots my ppc, bu then I get no BT icons of any sort. and the Bt LED is off.
When I select 'Bluesoleil' from the programs menu it does nothing but go to the today screen. There are no extra config icons in the control panel.

I have noticed that this topic is tagetted at the magician; is this the probelm, has anyone got this work work on the XDAII.

Any ideas?

thanks

[thinksmart]

Nope Heimiko, you're not alone. I've got the GPRS too.

Have found that eliminating just the BusType key in the BTNIC1 tree eliminates the GPRS issue but don't think that the PAN will work anymore (don't have an BT AP to test where I currently am).

Any help with this would be appreciated.

M.

[anansky]

Now I'm confused!
Are you all saying that if I install this stack and I'm prepared to delete these two registry keys every 60 days then this will work with no transfere limit? Could code be written that runs on the XDAIIs that checks for these keys and deletes them if it finds them? My reason for wanting to use this stack is that I have a GTEK BLUETREK G2 headphone and it doesn't work very well.

you need to delete this keys EVERY 60 days, not earlier 'cause if you delete this keys btsoleil thinks that is running first time and notify this - it is non comfortable.
better way to automatic avoid 60-days limit is change modification date of
hidden file "c:\windows\btdynamicconfig.ini" to current date. btsoleil counts trial period from date of this file :)

[harlemyin]

The following file has obviously to do with the license for application.
I suspect, that if we might be successfull with tickering in this file, we might get a full blown version. But lets first wait if I get awnsers from the company if they'd sell it; I prefer a legal version.

License File: \Windows\IVTLicConf.dat

Also, an additional ini file, that appears to be the same (?) as my first reported bttl.ini : \Windows\BTDynamicConfig.ini
here is IVTLicConf.dat from my fullvision Bluesoleil.
it is from my lenovo et560(rove s2). Bluesoleil is default bt stack in et560.
holp it is usefull.

[anansky]

Hello: I'm having problems with this. I followed the instalaltion instructions, at the end it reboots my ppc, bu then I get no BT icons of any sort. and the Bt LED is off.
When I select 'Bluesoleil' from the programs menu it does nothing but go to the today screen. There are no extra config icons in the control panel.

I have noticed that this topic is tagetted at the magician; is this the probelm, has anyone got this work work on the XDAII.

Any ideas?

thanks


i think that btsoleil is incompatible with you hardware.
i find btsoleil stack for mitac mio, try it to run on my magician and found same symptoms. :(

[anansky]

Nope Heimiko, you're not alone. I've got the GPRS too.

Have found that eliminating just the BusType key in the BTNIC1 tree eliminates the GPRS issue but don't think that the PAN will work anymore (don't have an BT AP to test where I currently am).

Any help with this would be appreciated.

M.

i try this, but it has absolutelly no effect :(

I think that problem is 'cause btsoleil act as PAN server by default and automatically raises up btnic1 adapter for accepting incoming pan connections.
windows think that this interface connected to internet always :(

i think that way to solve this problem will be find how to disable bluesoleil to act as PAN server, but still don't know how to do that :(

[sunnycheng]

Hi, I am using the O2 Mini edition of the magician. And I tried to install the bluesolei bluetooth stack on to my O2 Mini.

This is how I done it. I deleted the HKLM/Microsft/Bluetooth and HKLM/BTICON from the registry

then I installed the bluetooth stack. But after it restarts, the message "Your Bluetooth device initialization fails! Do you want to configure it manually?" it keeps on coming on. Then it asks me to cool a driver type, USB or BCSP or UART, or user defined whcih is ivt_pcmcia.dll...

I chose the ivt_pcmcia.dll and it restarts again.and the same thing happends.

Can someone please help?

Thank you!

[rdkay]

ant to configure it manually?" it keeps on coming on. Then it asks me to cool a driver type, USB or BCSP or UART, or user defined whcih is ivt_pcmcia.dll...

Its normal! Try to read the thread from the beginning and choose USB next time :lol:

[sunnycheng]

Thank you, Just found that out.

I am not connected, but somehow I can do anythingwith it..

I clicked on Bluetooth Manager on the Magician, and I see my computer showed up, double clickec on that, then shows the available connections,
so I choose the bluetooth serial port, then it saids it is connected to com4 of the computer. Then I click on the Active syn button inside the bluetooth manager, it tries to connect with the host..but the activesync on my computer wouldn't start. I tried setting up the serial connection on the MS Activesync, but I can only choose com3.

Can someone please teach? I am a newbie. Thanks

[xlephant]

But no luck with my Carkit (Parrot CK3000) not even just calling,

you are absolutely right

the stack DOESN'T support HEADSET OR HANDSET PROFILE.

this statement

weird. with my ck3300 it is working perfect

is wrong for the headset. i said that only for the gps modul i didn't test the headset because my mike is lost . :roll:

[thinksmart]

Heimiko, did you reboot after the reg change?

On my machine it does eliminate the GPRS issue however it no longer connects to my AP over PAN (hangs for a while while try to get DHCP IP address). I guess changing (removing) the "BusType" key makes it impossible for the driver to load.

BTW I can "discover" the MDAc from a MDAII but it doesn't find an active PAN service(r), only Serial and FTP Server are available (even when the PAN driver is loaded).

Is anyone else having the GPRS issue?


M.

[rwijnhov]

Is it possible to use both stacks so the bluesoleil for networking en de ms one for my bluetooth headset? Beceause now when i install bluesoleil my original stack doesn't work anymore i get a "null"error. And I want to be able to use both stack not at the same time. but when after i shutdown bluesoleil i want to be able to use ms an vice versa. Anyone good ideas?

[wroet]

But no luck with my Carkit (Parrot CK3000) not even just calling,

you are absolutely right

the stack DOESN'T support HEADSET OR HANDSET PROFILE.

this statement

weird. with my ck3300 it is working perfect

is wrong for the headset. i said that only for the gps modul i didn't test the headset because my mike is lost . :roll:

Yes, i looked also on the Parrot site (www.driveblue.com) and after downloading the helpfiles, it showed that 'active voicedialing' is not supported by my MDA Comact, I just have to deal with dialing from my phone instead of using the Carkit for dialing.

Maybe when a headset is available on a new stack... who knows...

Thomas

[xlephant]

I just have to deal with dialing from my phone instead of using the Carkit for dialing.

thats also wrong. you have to upload your phonebook to the parrot and then you can record voice dialing for every name you uploaded. works perfect with the ms stack.

[andrewpmoore]

The following file has obviously to do with the license for application.
I suspect, that if we might be successfull with tickering in this file, we might get a full blown version. But lets first wait if I get awnsers from the company if they'd sell it; I prefer a legal version.

License File: \Windows\IVTLicConf.dat

Also, an additional ini file, that appears to be the same (?) as my first reported bttl.ini : \Windows\BTDynamicConfig.ini
here is IVTLicConf.dat from my fullvision Bluesoleil.
it is from my lenovo et560(rove s2). Bluesoleil is default bt stack in et560.
holp it is usefull.

Does anyone know if replacing the installed file with this one removes the 60 day limitation?

[Heimiko]

Heimiko, did you reboot after the reg change?

On my machine it does eliminate the GPRS issue however it no longer connects to my AP over PAN (hangs for a while while try to get DHCP IP address). I guess changing (removing) the "BusType" key makes it impossible for the driver to load.

BTW I can "discover" the MDAc from a MDAII but it doesn't find an active PAN service(r), only Serial and FTP Server are available (even when the PAN driver is loaded).

Is anyone else having the GPRS issue?


M.

I know a way to disable the BT network adapter, without having the PDA hang up. I'm writing a little prog to do that. Only downside is, that is does require a reboot. I will also add in the deletion of these reg settings, or adjusting time of this file (date check). I'll be posting it soon.

[thinksmart]

Have got the PAN driver working together with GPRS.

Do the following:

1. Remove Bluesoliel link from /windows/Startup
2. Reset device
3. Connect to your GPRS network manually (from the icon on the top bar)
4. disconnect GPRS
5. Start Bluesoliel from /Programs.
6 Turn on BT radio
7. Connect through PAN
8. Turn Off Radio when finished with PAN (accept disconnect of current connection)

A few seconds after the radio is diasbled, the Network icon at the top of the screen will change to the familiar "G" icon which now can be used to connect to GPRS. This only happens if GPRS was connected a least once **before** Bluesoleil was started.

I have found that in about 1 of 5 tries "Connection" gets reset to My ISP, that is not a big issue to change back. It might have something to do with how quickly on tries to make a GPRS connection after terminating the BT PAN connection. Waiting few seconds before trying GPRS seems to help.
PPS Step 3-8 can repeated as often as you want without rebooting.

Can someone confirm that this works with their machine too??

PS IMPORTANT: steps 2 -5 should be done after every reboot (easy)

PPPS If you want to use another BT device just turn on radio after step 8. It will not cause GPRS icon to disappear.

PPPPS This stack holds a PAN connection after the deivce has turned off and rewaked from suspend mode! And IP over PAN is FAST!

[Heimiko]

Hmmm.. i think i don't want to perform this whole ritual after each reset. Not that it's a lot to do, but I am surtain, after a few resets it will become quite anoying to do so. Thanks for the tip though... :)

I think I will proceed with the app. You're not gonna use GPRS while you have PAN access (ie, also internet through BT). and also vice versa. For me it's a better idea to enable disable + a reboot.

[Heimiko]

you need to delete this keys EVERY 60 days, not earlier 'cause if you delete this keys btsoleil thinks that is running first time and notify this - it is non comfortable.
better way to automatic avoid 60-days limit is change modification date of
hidden file "c:\windows\btdynamicconfig.ini" to current date. btsoleil counts trial period from date of this file :)

I tried this method, setting my date in the future, adjusting the date of this file, but the BT stack doesn't wanna work this way. I don't know, maybe it is because i changed, and let the stack run with that date, and it could have altered something, notifying itself that it had run for 60 days. So I don't know if you keep on adjusting the date, if it would ever occur, only 1 way to find, lets see if we run out of service with my prog :wink:

I'm done. It's fairly simple program. It detects if the BT network is enabled or disabled, and askes you to invert the setting + reboot. Also, on startup, it will adjust the file time of "\windows\btdynamicconfig.ini" to current time / date. Let me know how it works out for you :)

ps. You shouldn't do the last step in the installation steps to have this work propperly (the BT network adapter should be running the first time you use it)

[mikeycollins13]

OK, deleted files, installed ok, selcted USB etc, then deleted the GPRS problem file, I can pair with Laptop, and it even sometimes recognizes the incoming serial port and begins active sync, but then this dies.

If I click Active sync on the BT manager, it asks me to set up a serial port profile, however, the manager does not recognize serial profile from the laptop, so no active sync. It says 1 service available, but none of the little icons show up on the tray.
Meanwhile my GPRS is not on, but the G is showing?

Any ideas?

[thinksmart]

Heimiko, wouldn't it be easier and more effective to write a script/progam to connect/disconnect GPRS then start bluesoleil on restart, that way we wouldn't need to reboot when changing from GPRS to PAN and PAN to GPRS ? A reboot is not necessary to get this working.

Cheers,

M.

PS BTW BTnetwork.exe causes a reset to MY ISP in connections on every reboot on my MDAc

[mikeycollins13]

I paired it with Clip on GPS, which old stack could do so no hurray here, and now it everytime I try to actice sync from BT manager, it goes after the clip-on????

[Heimiko]

Heimiko, wouldn't it be easier and more effective to write a script/progam to connect/disconnect GPRS then start bluesoleil on restart, that way we wouldn't need to reboot when changing from GPRS to PAN and PAN to GPRS ? A reboot is not necessary to get this working.

Cheers,

M.

PS BTW BTnetwork.exe causes a reset to MY ISP in connections on every reboot on my MDAc

Hmm, you have a point there. That should actualy be more ideal. I'll look into it. Dunno if i can make GPRS connect / disconnect through code. any help is appreciated. About the reset..... it resets when you start it?? (ie. no msg box appears in the first place?)

Edit: Now i know what you mean. It is not caused by BTnetwork. It is caused by the BT stack. Just change these settings, and reboot without using BTnetwork, you'll see the same result........ very unfortunate, but we'll have to deal with that i guess.

[mikeycollins13]

it sees the PC, says it has one 'unkown' , then goes after clip on gps for serial port, aaaahhhhh

[Heimiko]

I paired it with Clip on GPS, which old stack could do so no hurray here, and now it everytime I try to actice sync from BT manager, it goes after the clip-on????

This has to do which device is the "default" for SPP profile.
Check your shortcut page within the BT manager. Here you can change the defaults for all profiles. (press + hold on shortcut -> set default)

[mikeycollins13]

Just unsintall the the GPS, that solved this problem, yet I just can't get this to active sync. Refuses to see this profile. I'm going to revert back to MDA original stack. Hard reset baby.

[ovsoft]

But no luck with my Carkit (Parrot CK3000) not even just calling,

you are absolutely right

the stack DOESN'T support HEADSET OR HANDSET PROFILE.

this statement

weird. with my ck3300 it is working perfect

is wrong for the headset. i said that only for the gps modul i didn't test the headset because my mike is lost . :roll:
So you confirm my first impression: this stack is useless for our pdas :cry:

[mikeycollins13]

I second your vote, just a pain in the ass...

[mikeycollins13]

The only reason to use this POS was because the GUI looked good, functionality, it is a big 0!

[thinksmart]

This stack is a Godsend for those of us who want to use bluetooth to connect to Access Points for IP. This works very well -is fast and sable- and isn't available on any other stacks for the magician (except toshiba which doesn't work properly).

BTW has anyone been able to extract the Widcomm bluetooth from the XDAIIi ? I have been told that this might work on the magician and give everyone what they want ?

M.

[dutty]

xda2i ext rom is on the ftp.. tried the widcomm stack from the xda2i but it didnt work.

atleast we now know that the magician is communicating wiht bluetooth over usb drivers...

[rwijnhov]

but can't we use both stacks so that we can have de headset from de ms one and the rest from the bluesoleil. I know that this trick used to work on my xdaII I could run both of them ofcourse not at the same time.

greetings,
Ruben

[rwijnhov]

but can't we use both stacks so that we can have de headset from de ms one and the rest from the bluesoleil. I know that this trick used to work on my xdaII I could run both of them ofcourse not at the same time.

greetings,
Ruben

[andrewpmoore]

The only reason to use this POS was because the GUI looked good, functionality, it is a big 0!

I like this stack, it gives me access to my gps as before, but also access to my bluetooth access point. Saves me buying a wi-fi card.

And as the speakerphone is louder now, I use that in the car and don't bother with a bluetooth headset.

[Heimiko]

PPPPS This stack holds a PAN connection after the deivce has turned off and rewaked from suspend mode! And IP over PAN is FAST!

I'd like to know how you accomplished this. Whenever I rewake my device, it gets disconnected from PAN, and I have to log in manualy again...
I looked in the INI files, no setting there that makes it try to auto connect...
How did you do it?

Also, i found a more easy way to make GPRS work together with PAN:
Don't do anything at startup, let bluesoleil manager start as normally. Whenever you want to use GPRS, unload the manager (just exit it) Then your GPRS will be available. Load the manager again to regain BT functionality.
Is is also particulary handy when you don't want your device to auto connect to GPRS whenever it htinks it wants to get some data... on other words, you are in control when it gets connected :wink:

[Knot]

"
IVT PC Bluetooth Software Stack - BlueSoleil v1.4.9
**Please note that this is a full version if used with a valid CSR Key else the software will default to an evaluation version.
"
Check at web
http://www.csrsupport.com/index.php?path=129

What valid CSR Key ???

[thinksmart]

Heimiko, mine holds a PAN connection for about 10 minutes in sleep mode (FYI I'm using a Dlink BT AP), after that it disconects too.

Thanks for the tip on GPRS. It works on my machine. I've tried twice but on both occasions my GPRS connections were reset and need to be reconfigured. Is this happening to you too?

Regards,

M

[Heimiko]

Heimiko, mine holds a PAN connection for about 10 minutes in sleep mode (FYI I'm using a Dlink BT AP), after that it disconects too.

Thanks for the tip on GPRS. It works on my machine. I've tried twice but on both occasions my GPRS connections were reset and need to be reconfigured. Is this happening to you too?

Regards,

M

Aah, that's a shame. I really hoped you had got a way to make it auto connect. Cause that would result in the same usuage as with wifi, and would be very VERY cool.

What do you mean by GPRS settings reset? that it defaults to My ISP? something in the bluesoleil stack is triggering this effect. I dunno what....
Or do you mean somehting else?

[andrewpmoore]

Does this stack have the 5mb limitation, I tried to copy an album across my PAN connection, but it failed on the 2nd track, could this be because it had reached it's limit. Could someone else try to see if it works.

Also, has anybody got an automated solution to keeping the evaluation copy going?

[vs1]

I got in contact with IVT and asked for more profiles like "Hands-Free" and what the software will cost. Here is the answer:


Thank you for your attention to our software!
Our software need have a corporation with the Pocket PC Phone's maker to implement the Handsfree's profile. We have produced our software with Mitac's Mio336BT and Mio558,Lenovo's et-560. We have not implemented the "SIM-Access" profile .
We can provide you a version that you can use SPP, LAP,Dial-up networking, PAN, FTP,OPP'S Profile. If you can help us to let Pocket PC Phone's maker to give us some api's of their Audio switch, also we can implement Handsfree and Headset profiles. These two profiles has implemented by IVT corporation!

How much of the software's cost?

20 US$ for individual user!


Best Regards

Liujianfeng


Does anyone knows something about the "api's of the audio switch" from the HTC Magician ???

[Knot]

may be full version [peer to peer]
ed2k://|file|Bluesoleil%201.4.9%20[found%20via%20www.FileDonkey.com].zip|10318384|BC76B164999CBE416AF8113C0140513A|/

[YRLS]

Guys how can I setup my Magician IP over PAN connection?
I can connect to ad hoc pan network but I'm not able to set the ip address of the mobile device :roll:

[Heimiko]

Does this stack have the 5mb limitation, I tried to copy an album across my PAN connection, but it failed on the 2nd track, could this be because it had reached it's limit. Could someone else try to see if it works.

Also, has anybody got an automated solution to keeping the evaluation copy going?

I haven't done any file copies just yet, but I've been using this stack without any problems so far. It appears that the 5Mb limit is only implemented in the win32 version, this version only has a 60 days limit. This eve, I will try and copy some large data, lets see what happens.

[Heimiko]

Guys how can I setup my Magician IP over PAN connection?
I can connect to ad hoc pan network but I'm not able to set the ip address of the mobile device :roll:

You can set your IP by going to: Settings -> Network Cards -> "BT network adapter". There you can alter from dynamic IP to static, and fill in your fixed IP number.

[andrewpmoore]

Now I'm confused!
Are you all saying that if I install this stack and I'm prepared to delete these two registry keys every 60 days then this will work with no transfere limit? Could code be written that runs on the XDAIIs that checks for these keys and deletes them if it finds them? My reason for wanting to use this stack is that I have a GTEK BLUETREK G2 headphone and it doesn't work very well.

you need to delete this keys EVERY 60 days, not earlier 'cause if you delete this keys btsoleil thinks that is running first time and notify this - it is non comfortable.
better way to automatic avoid 60-days limit is change modification date of
hidden file "c:\windows\btdynamicconfig.ini" to current date. btsoleil counts trial period from date of this file :)

Well, just to try things out I updated the year on my PDA to 2006. When I ran the stack it came up saying it had expired.

First I tried to remove the registry entries 'first' and 'run' but that didn't help. Then I updated BTDynamicConfig.ini's time to today, but it still comes up saying it's expired.

[Heimiko]

You have to delete both keys from the reg "First" and "Time".

[anansky]

for unresolving mistakes with bluesoleil ce trial limitations i can say:

(1) bluesoleil ce HAS NO 5mb limitation
(2) 60-days trial period check has the following algoritm:
on first run, btsoleil notice about 60-days trial period, create First and Time keys in registry, set Time value to "1", set modification date of c:\windows\btdynamicconfig.ini file to current date

on next runs, it's check
(1) if the Time value not "1" - notice about trial period over and stops
(2) if the date of ini file above current date - set Time value to "2" and notice about trial expires
(3) if the date of ini file below current date for 61 days or more - set Time value to "2" and notice about trial expires

so most simply way to avoid trial limitation is put in strartup some program which set ini file date to current date when windows startups

if anybody can write that program it will be useful (it will be very simple program, like touch.exe, just call to something like setfiledate(file, currentdate());) but i has no win ce SDK to make this program by myself :) )

[Heimiko]

I basically wrote that program already, BTnetwork simply does that, but prompts for disabling network afterwards.
I'll recompile it without the network stuff in it. Attachment in next post.

[Heimiko]

Here's the recompiled file.

[anansky]

Here's the recompiled file.

thx.
but i think thats program will be more universal if it will get file name as argument from command line.
can you write that program, name it like "touch" and post in that thread ?

[Heimiko]

Here's your file. Post in whatever thread you like ;)
remember, wince has no directory like windows does, setting the time of a file in the windows dir should be as follows:

TouchCE \windows\file.ini

no quotes on the file! spaces will be recognized automatically.

[anansky]

Here's your file.
thanks!

[vs1]

Does anyone knows something about the "api's of the audio switch" from the HTC Magician ???

Really no one??? :(

[thinksmart]

What do you mean by GPRS settings reset? that it defaults to My ISP? something in the bluesoleil stack is triggering this effect. I dunno what....
Or do you mean somehting else?


Yes, that what's happening.

M.

[thinksmart]

I got in contact with IVT and asked for more profiles like "Hands-Free" and what the software will cost. Here is the answer:



How much of the software's cost?

20 US$ for individual user!


Best Regards

Liujianfeng


Does anyone knows something about the "api's of the audio switch" from the HTC Magician ???

Does this mean that one can offically buy the stack for individual use on PPC?

Thanks,

M.

[Whitefox]

i cant seem to get this stack working propperly, did everything that was instructed.
now my mda pairs up but after that no connections are avaliable and when i finaly got the DUN it dropped after a few seconds, tried more the 10 time and some reinstalls, could someone plz make a "Bluesoleil CE for Dummies" :)

[splotter92]

had anyone notice that the Blue LED no longer activates? :D

[splotter92]

How about beaming file? i can't make it work. :?

[Knot]

I found BlueSoleil winCE crack.rar in net NOT Test, should work over 60 day, Let's try :twisted:

[sdmoviez]

How can I uninstall BlueSoleil Evaluation 1.4.9.5?
I tried everything.
:?:

[andrewpmoore]

I found BlueSoleil winCE crack.rar in net NOT Test, should work over 60 day, Let's try :twisted:

anyone tried this?

[webzhang]

I have also sent them a mail when I discovered their bluetooth stack... never got a response ! :x

I would definitely pay BUT:

I want also the A2DP ( Advanced Audio Distribution Profile) as now there are some really cool Stereo Bluetooth Headsets available which I want to buy.... :P

So If they add this profile I am in! :)

Cheers,
Rainer

Yes, i am also trying to find how to make Magician work with the Stereo Bluetooth Headsets from HP and this cute one. However, i havent found that yet.
http://www.yesky.com/imagesnew/digi/05/01/19/3634_super.jpg

[rdkay]

Just found following news interesting: http://www.slashphone.com/news/?m=show&opt=printable&id=1584


iWALTZ is based on Impulsesoft's patent-pending Bluetooth audio-subsystem architecture for mobile phones and is built over the Microsoft Bluetooth protocol stack. The middleware leverages Impulsesoft driven open standard GMCPTM (Generic Media Control Protocol) for rich content related information access over Bluetooth.

iWALTZ consists of Bluetooth audio (A2DP) and remote control (AVRCP) profiles, ARM9 and TI C55x DSP optimized Sub-band encoder (SBC), audio drivers, Active-X controls for play list, remote control and ID3 tag information from Windows Media Player,

There is hope for a2dp on our magicians! :P

Cheers,
Rainer

[tedSmith123]

Hi guys,

Is it just me or is this really true. I've installed the BlueSoleil stack on the JAM and I've noticed that the blue LED no long flashes when activated.

The more troubling problem is that even if I've checked "Turn Radio OFF" from the BT Icon, I can still discover my Jam from my PC. So does this mean that BlueSoleil Stack makes bluetooth always on ?? The same is NOT true if I switch the JAM off ( or suspend, whatever you want to call it ) with "Turn Radio OFF".

Any fix for this ?? Thanks.

Ted

[asci]

Still no way to let BT headset work with this stack?

[smedberg]

Does anyone knows something about the "api's of the audio switch" from the HTC Magician ???

Really no one??? :(

Have you tried mailing HTC for the API?

[lyka]

Any news about these stacks?

[JesperRas]

Anybody knows have to uninstall the stack and install the MS stack again? What about the stack with A2DP from iWALTZ

[uniquexme]

guys,

i have a BT dongle, and it came with this Bluesoleid IVT Software that u guys are talking about. i don't know why the software has its limitations when u download off its website, but look, i have the CD with me. so anyone interested i might try to post it up here. hahah. but 1 thing i found is that its not so compatible with WIN XP as when u install, it says something like not compatiable and ask u if u want to install. BTW, this BT is cheap only RM45.00 (bought in HK)

[FloatingFatMan]

First, hi all... New to this forum, but not new to PPC's etc...

I have a dongle for my PC which came with this stack too. I don't know about the PPC version of the stack, but the PC version is bloody awfull. It crashes a lot, sometimes doesn't recognise the dongle at all, always opens the manager screen on login (REALLY annoying that is), wouldn't let me synch over BT, and worst of all, was so damned hard to uninstall I was forced to use system restore to get rid of it, which somehow managed to delete my NTLDR... NOT impressed.

The MS stack may be missing a lot of functionality, but at least the damn thing is stable...

Be wary of this stack, it sure as hell doesn't like XP Pro SP2...

[joewang]

I'm using a SMC bluetooth dongle and it came with the Bluesoleil s/w. It pretty stable for me. I'm on WinXP SP2. The s/w is awesome as it has lots of bluetooth profiles. I'm currently using it to connect my bluetooth headset to my notebook for voice over msn. Dunno much the PPC version of Bluesoleil. Anyone got it working with major glitches?

[namiran]

Hi guys,

Is it just me or is this really true. I've installed the BlueSoleil stack on the JAM and I've noticed that the blue LED no long flashes when activated.

The more troubling problem is that even if I've checked "Turn Radio OFF" from the BT Icon, I can still discover my Jam from my PC. So does this mean that BlueSoleil Stack makes bluetooth always on ?? The same is NOT true if I switch the JAM off ( or suspend, whatever you want to call it ) with "Turn Radio OFF".

Any fix for this ?? Thanks.

Ted

is this true? will the bt be On every time i power on?

[Bi99uy]

Hi guys,

Is it just me or is this really true. I've installed the BlueSoleil stack on the JAM and I've noticed that the blue LED no long flashes when activated.

The more troubling problem is that even if I've checked "Turn Radio OFF" from the BT Icon, I can still discover my Jam from my PC. So does this mean that BlueSoleil Stack makes bluetooth always on ?? The same is NOT true if I switch the JAM off ( or suspend, whatever you want to call it ) with "Turn Radio OFF".

Any fix for this ?? Thanks.

Ted

is this true? will the bt be On every time i power on?

No. When you disable BT, it´s disabled. You can´t see it from other BT devices and you can´t connect to it. He was propably seeing his phone because he likely paired it and therefore will be visible even if it is connectable or not.

[spadival]

Does anyone knows something about the "api's of the audio switch" from the HTC Magician ???

Really no one??? :(

Have you tried mailing HTC for the API?

Cant they just implement the headset profile for now? I guess they still need the API's for the audio switch from HTC. And HTC is infamous for not sharing any information !!

Cheers.

[codex666]

I agree, the stack works perfect for me. as i extensively use the network pan connection. But i'd hate to throw away my logitech headset for it. Does anybody still have contact with ITV about this, or have specific contact information so others here can start bugging them too? :wink:

Thanks,
marco

[rmg]

Just bumping this, is anyone using it still??

[spadival]

Can anyone send me the the cab file for the install to 'spadival at gmail.com' ?

When I downloaded and ran the setup, it simply refuses to run properly and install.

Cheers.

[lyka]

Anyone tryed this stack with rom 1.12 WWE?

I can't let it work.

With previous rom version i had no problem.

[codex666]

Hi all,

I have a problem with the serial profile of the Bluesoleil stack. After connecting my gps with the Serial profile it tries to connect to it every minute. The iritating thing is that it shows a progress dialog that you cannot click away... Does anybody know a solution to this?

PS; we have to bug Bluesoleil more to support the jam fully. its probably the only way to all bluetooth profiles. Anybody care to set up a letter?

Tnx,

Marco

[hbahaie]

I coudn't install the program via activesync 4 on my JAM rom qtek 1.12, please could any one put the cab files here so i will try manually. Thank u in advance

[hbahaie]

I got it, the problem is in the activesync 4, I've reversed to 3.8, i have installed the stack, but when i choosed usb and let it to restart, the same message "bluetooth initializatio failed" came to me, any one knows what is the problem> Thanks

[dutty]

mmh... now with 1.12 bluesoleil fails? maybe htc enabled a hack to let the broadcomm xda 2 hack-stack work, since bluesoleil fails on an xda2 too..
and everybody knows broadcomm is teh best ;)

[hbahaie]

Now, after revresed to ROM 1.11 and Activesyn 3.8, I have installed the bluesoleil, and followed thesame steps, removed the HKEY, and reset the device, the initialization usually fails. I closed the jam, and went in my work, when i discovered suddenly after a while that the bluesoleil is working. I don'y know how but it is working and i can find my friend's nokia 6600 very fast. the same occurred when i turned the radio off, couldn't turn it on again, but after sometime, it worked abrubtly. Now, willtry to use it with my pc.

[corv3]

Can any one edit the registry to let Bluesoil work with removing the
microsoft stack >>>

coz we need microsoft stack with headset bluetooth>
:twisted:

[Perazzi]

Can any one edit the registry to let Bluesoil work with removing the
microsoft stack >>>

coz we need microsoft stack with headset bluetooth>
:twisted:

Everythings news about the Bluesoleil? Is it possible to get a legal Version of the Bluesoleil Stack and how about the Headsets? :(

[MrMacMax]

Did someone already tryed the Toshiba BT Stack? Any progress reports? It looks interesting (just installed it few minutes ago) but at the moment I can't find any chance to de-activate the M¢ Stack. So I cannot run the Settings from the Toshiba one :(

[Perazzi]

Did someone already tryed the Toshiba BT Stack? Any progress reports? It looks interesting (just installed it few minutes ago) but at the moment I can't find any chance to de-activate the M¢ Stack. So I cannot run the Settings from the Toshiba one :(

Hi,


This are the Steps to de-activate the MS Stack. It`s the same procedure like the Bluesoleil Stack. Please tell about your results with the Toshiba Stack into the MDAC.

Before install, delete these reg keys:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\BTIcon]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\microsoft\bluetooth]
For a Test I would only rename them...

[brutusnero]

I upgraded from MDAc 1.06 to O2 Germany ROM 1.12 and unfortunately the BLUESOLEIL stack does not work anymore. It's a mess because I liked it very much (compared to the M$ Stack on the Magician). I assume that there has been a update to the USB stack of the OS. Does anyone has a workaround to get this BT stack working again?

By the way: As far as I know from IVT they're working on a new release of their BT stack for WinCE AND they are working on a online store for licensing (according to Jack Yang, IVT Asia). Hope that they will support the HTC Magician with new ROM again.

[tvd]

After removing the said registry keys, soft reset the device and install bluesoleil. i get the error message "Your bluetooth device initialization fails! Do you want to configure it manually?"

I then select YES and choose USB from the list but my bluetooth icon still display an x beside it and i'm unable to use the bluetooth.

Can anyone help me out please.

My hardware is imate jam, os v1.12.00 WWE, radio v1.12.10

Thanks
Tim

[sider]

After removing the said registry keys, soft reset the device and install bluesoleil. i get the error message "Your bluetooth device initialization fails! Do you want to configure it manually?"

I then select YES and choose USB from the list but my bluetooth icon still display an x beside it and i'm unable to use the bluetooth.

Can anyone help me out please.

My hardware is imate jam, os v1.12.00 WWE, radio v1.12.10

Thanks
Tim

I am having the exact same problem. Except that once I Hard Reset then install the software it works well. And once I restore my back up back again it goes with the above mentioned problem again. Does anyone have any idea?

I don't remember installing any bluetooth software before.
I am using 1.11 ROM and Radio

Thanks

[sider]

After removing the said registry keys, soft reset the device and install bluesoleil. i get the error message "Your bluetooth device initialization fails! Do you want to configure it manually?"

I then select YES and choose USB from the list but my bluetooth icon still display an x beside it and i'm unable to use the bluetooth.

Can anyone help me out please.

My hardware is imate jam, os v1.12.00 WWE, radio v1.12.10

Thanks
Tim


Ok, I figured out what the problem was. Just after installing bluesoleil and soft resetting, turn off your jam then turn it back on again. Then try running it and it will run ok.

I still don't know why is this needed to be done, and whether it was with everyone else or just our devices.

[primax]

the stack works perfect on my s100 ..

Installed the WinXP part to and got PAN and the moste of the services to work.

Having problems with activesync dosen´t really want to find the com ports they use in serial services.

PAN, file transfer works fine (the 5MB limitation is a pain in the a**, but until i find better software i have to live with it :roll: )

ohh, can´t map drives with Resco .. looks like the software dosen´t recognise the "bt etwork driver" as a network card (according to help file you need to have a network card to map, so the network part in options are disabled).

Tx for the tip on the stack ..

[miguelromerom]

hello to all,

is it worthwhile to install this Sw or is it better the one that brings??

What problems have you found?'

greetings

[xdadevc]

Before install, delete these reg keys:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\BTIcon]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\microsoft\bluetooth]


The first key will remove the MS BT Icon, which is good.
The second key will cause the "can't initialize" problem after reboot.

Mine is working fine with just the first key removed (actually, if you don't want to remove, just rename the reference to the DLL which it's trying to load to something inexistant:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\BTIcon\Dll]="BTIcon_Dll.dll-"

Note the '-' sign which will cause it to fail to load and thus no bt icon in taskbar ;-)

[Leechazoid]

According to the original poster this stack supports the following profiles:
PAN, OPP, SYNC, LAP, DUN, FTP, FAX, HID, SPP, HCRP, BIP, Headset, AV

Given all the above, especially the last post, has anyone got these going on a JAM with any real sucess yet?

[Private-Cowboy]

How many MB does that stack take? I mean you cant remove the MS one so you will fill up the RAM with additional ones. So how big is the hit of this one (if you install it and if it should work)? And can it be uninstalled?

[cnadra]

All of these posts are very informative I am going to try the stack today ;)

[xdadevc]

I am using it for SPP (ActiveSync over serial bluetooth) and PAN (which was the main reason to install it).

Will try a BT headset asap

[cnadra]

well xdadevc I want to use it for PAN Honestly. the idea to be able to check your files from the PDA is my main reason

[cnadra]

when I go to Settings -> Network Cards -> "BT network adapter". I am unavble to find the BT Network Adapter. Please help me

[cnadra]

and one more thing how to unistall the software and re install it. i tried with add remove program but no luck

[cnadra]

sorry to bother again after reinstalling the driver my bluetooth network adapter is there but when I scan for my computer with the manger I am able only to use serial profile no PAN profile wHy please any suggestion I would be thanksful. Also my Jabra BT200 did not work also no services. I like the driver but these samll thing would be annoying only if PAN works I am willing to sacrifice my BT headset. please help

[berkens]

Hi All,

Unlike the T-Mobile MDA Compact, does the Vodafone VPA Compact have a Widcomm BT stack? Anybody tried?


http://www.plawa.com/support/downloads/drivers/laserkey/celluon_cl800bt_kompatibilitaet_treiberzuordnung_d e.pdf


---

Hersteller Betriebssystem/Bluetooth

T-Mobile
MDA Compact
Windows Mobile 2003™ 4.21.1088 (Build 14235.2.0.0),
Microsoft Bluetooth stack

Vodafone
VPA compact
Windows Mobile 2003™ SE 4.21.1088 (Build 14132)
Widcomm BT-PPC/PE Version 1.0.0 Build 1900

Greetings Ben...

[Private-Cowboy]

This is interesting. Could someone with a VPA compact check this. If the VPA comapct runs Widcomm all other magian could use that stack too.

[berkens]

This is interesting. Could someone with a VPA compact check this. If the VPA comapct runs Widcomm all other magian could use that stack too.

Thanx to Google:

http://download.vodafone.de/spopup16.html

It is a German ROM 1.12, coming from Vodadafone.

AT_VODA_11201_161_11200_Ship.exe

Greetings Ben...

[cnadra]

Could someone please shed a light here about what to do next . I mean I do not understand german folks how to get the Widecomm drivers for my JAM please guide us and thanks in advance

[Private-Cowboy]

I guess that pdf is not up to date, the VPA compact has ms bt stack too.

http://x.msmobiles.com/lh/images/vpamda/btcomports.jpg

This img is from the VPA compact and its clearly ms bt stack. Sad but true.

[cnadra]

well I had my hopes high but guys the MS stack really sucks any other suggestions

[xdadevc]

cnadra,

to use pan you need to have a PAN-host and PAN-clients.
The host is the device that HOSTS the PAN network.
Other computers connect to the host.

Windows cannot be a host (using the default drivers in SP2). Perhaps if you have widcomm or other proprietary stack for windows, then it could be hosted... but not on SP2 native drivers.

You should use the bluesoleil stack on the PDA to be the host and the Windows computer will have to connect.

You need to set up the PAN network with static IP addresses (As you don't have DHCP servers on the PAN network).

A tutorial can be found here:

http://www.wifizard.com/tutorialsXP/generic_bluetooth_pan/
Also have a look at http://www.wifizard.com/tutorialsXP/ for some interesting info.

Use some immagination to translate to Bluesoleil stack :-)

[cnadra]

thanks xdadevc for the links and the tutorilas I will go extensively with them and hope I will be able to find something I can connect my JAM to my PC and explore files

[Dakky]

Please tell me how to uninstall Bluesoleil BT stack? I want to try Toshiba stack. Please help.

BY the way, does that Toshiba stack v 3.20.01 works with MDA compact device?

THanks

[cnadra]

anyone can post the link to the toshiba bluetooth stack that works on the JAm. thanks in advance

[Dakky]

will hard resetting the device revert registry changes (including bluesoliel) ? if i hard reset it will the bluesolied be gone?

thanks?

[xdadevc]

Dakky,

no stack will help you unless you try to learn the technology. Try the BT tutorials I suggested.

I switched from Toshiba to Bluesoleil because Toshiba stack was buggy as hell.

If you don't feel **sure** of what you're doing, toshiba stack will drive you crazy. It did with me and I sure know how it's supposed to work ;-)

All in all... M$ did a right thing: remove functionality that didn't work properly. They kept a small-but-working subset of it.

To answer your question: yes. hard-reset will remove it.

[lemm]

is it possible to use one of the described bluetooth-stacks to replace the
Eten-stack in order to connect Eten M500-PDA via BT and MS-VoiceCommand with a BT-Carkit?
Has anyone a to-do-list to make this real like for mdac?

[Echilon]

Can anyone send me the the cab file for the install to 'spadival at gmail.com' ?

When I downloaded and ran the setup, it simply refuses to run properly and install.

Cheers.
I get the same problem :(

[remixme]

Here is the cab file, had the same problem with AS4. Had to do a far bit of legwork to retrieve the cab from the installshield cabs. But seems to work for me none the less.

I also got SkyPE working over the bluetooth PAN/LAN connection.

[Nomader]

Here is the cab file, had the same problem with AS4. Had to do a far bit of legwork to retrieve the cab from the installshield cabs. But seems to work for me none the less.

thanx. installing from pc had no result at all.
i wonder, reinstalling bluesoleil from .cab for several times had no result too - just hardware fails. I kept ms reg keys - and it works good enough.
what a..?

[Nomader]

...and is there any trick to make blue led work properly with bluesoleil stack, huh? :shock:

[Bowie]

pfff flashy lights are for girls :P

just think of the power your saving by not having the light blink :lol:

[berkens]

Here is the cab file, had the same problem with AS4. Had to do a far bit of legwork to retrieve the cab from the installshield cabs. But seems to work for me none the less.

I also got SkyPE working over the bluetooth PAN/LAN connection.

Hi remixme,

That sounds nice, online via PAN. Can I use my D-Link BT Access Point again.

Can you explain what to do with the contents of the CAB-file?

Looked at the files, but my blue light went out. :D

Greetings, Ben...

[foxct2005]

So....i don't understand...but...

Bluesoleil stack works on 1.11 and 1.12 roms? If Yes, How? Anyone can post a tutorial for installing?

And Toshiba stack? Works too?

Thanks. FoxCT.

[Ducker]

Im sorry if this is such an obvious question.. id like to try all the different stacks to get it to work but ive read this thread several times and i still dont understand if it will work on my phone or not :/ (XDA II mini)

So will it work .. which stack do you recommend?.. Id love audio gateway of course but i understand that dosent work atm.. so any gateway that reliably bluetooth active syncs and has PAN as well would be awesome!

Ive been trying to setup a proper network connection through activesync and as you all prob know it dosent allow all the ports so you cant browse the windows network :/ PAN would solve this for me!

[foxct2005]

So...i am not the only with this important question.
Please if a owner of Xda Mini know how installing Toshiba or Bluesoleil Stack in 1.11 or 1.12 Roms please write a little tutorial for us.

Thanks in advance and excuse me for my little english.

Bye.

[tko]

i testet bluesolei/toshiba/widcomm - stack on my magician rom 1.12 - no sucsses

toshiba/widcom-stack on magician 1.13 rom... the same

[smurf]

I found out about this BT stack driver through a thread regarding the toshiba BT stack driver, so i thought: other driver, other thread :wink:

Original thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15604
Download BlueSoleil CE here: http://ivtcorporation.com/download/BlueSoleil_Download.php#bluesoleilforce
Credits for finding this BT stack go to: rdkay

It has a lot more profiles then the standard MS stack.
Occording to their web site, supported profiles are:
PAN, OPP, SYNC, LAP, DUN, FTP, FAX, HID, SPP, HCRP, BIP, Headset, AV

The manager that comes along with it, is also a lot better then the standard one, more options, more playing around :)

I played around with it for a while, and i think it is rock sollid. Although I have only tested the SPP profile (with BT GPS). It never crashed, not even on suspend & resume. The radio will be deactivated during suspend though. For me this is perfect, because it will save battery life.
On resume, it will be automatically reactivated.

Installation procedure:

- Download Bluesoleil CE: http://www.bluesoleil.com/update/index.asp

- Before install, delete these reg keys:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\BTIcon]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\microsoft\bluetooth]

- Reboot PPC
- Install Bluesoleil CE

- During setup on PPC select Manual -> USB driver, then let setup reboot

This next step is optional, do this only when you have troubles with your GPRS connection (a newly installed network driver prevents it from operating properly on my device) Delete following reg keys:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\BTNIC]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\BTNIC1]
Reboot once more

Finished! enjoy :D

i tried for about ten times to install it this way but always failed. Found out that it works perfectly only erasing this BTIcon thing...

[RT-PRO]

removed all REG keys still not able to install this... :cry:

when the installation process is over on the PC, it pops up the AS add/remove window saying that the app would be downloaded next time I connect the device(when it's already connected), so I disconnect and reconnect it
http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/296/blue9bu.jpg
reply yes and then it just closes without installing anything on the PPC..

any ideas, PLEASE ! :cry: :cry:


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[remixme]

Right this is what works for me......furthermore all the answers you need are in this thread if you take the time to read it properly.
But since I'm a nice guy I'll summarise for you,
just so you know I'm using a T-mobile based 1.12 Rom with upgraded 1.13 Radio

- Download Bluesoleil CE: http://www.bluesoleil.com/update/index.asp

- Before install, delete this registry key ONLY:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\BTIcon]

Then Reboot
(For me, deleting the other reg key result's in frequent errors so I omit that step mentioned in the original post)

-If the installer does not work, then copy and install my cab file from my previous post directly onto your pocket pc.

During the intial setup that comes up on your pocketpc select Manual -> USB driver, then let setup reboot.

That should do the trick, if it doesnt work first time, try rebooting your pocketpc again.

[nizam.tg]

Has anyone tried to get this to work on Dell's Axim X51v? The MS BT stack included is shite & isn't anywhere near as good as Broadcomms! Would this replace the MS stack & take over BT control?

[Vic Odin]

Hi All!
Say me, please, Bluesoleil working on WM2005? Very intresting...

[vapor]

still no news about the headset?

[ugurcuk]

argg no workaround available for the 5mb limitation??? :(

[Dr. Procton]

argg no workaround available for the 5mb limitation??? :(
There is no 5MB Limitation.

[wparie]

Is it possible to get a 'no limit' copy?

[ChaosMage]

huh, i succesfully made active sync synchronization but failed to make DUN connection. It worked when i had Microsoft BT stack at PPC

when i connect to my PPC it writes that DUN connected but nothing happens and PC writes that connection failed.

anybody tried ?

[Dr.Shultz]

huh, i succesfully made active sync synchronization but failed to make DUN connection. It worked when i had Microsoft BT stack at PPC

when i connect to my PPC it writes that DUN connected but nothing happens and PC writes that connection failed.

anybody tried ?
That's right because you need to launch Wmodem on your magician and select a bluetooth connection there.

PS Read instructions.

[Dasert75]

Hi,
And how about "no limit" copy? anybody know??

With best regards, Dasert

[MrPestana]

Have anyone tried with Qtek S110 ?

It doesn´t seems to install ?

i have deleted the Regestry keys now what should i put there again so i have the bluetooth working again ?

Thanks

[dgaust]

If anyone is still looking at using Bluesoleil, i have found this thread quite handy http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=36395

I now have the upgraded Windows stack, and the latest Bluesoleil stack installed on my magician an seemingly working perfectly.

Now if I could only get the bluetooth activesync thing working. For some reason my bluesoleil software only gives ports 21 & 22 to my SPP and activesync won't recognise any higher than 20. I have to use bluesoleil on my Win XP SP2 system as that is the only stack the dongle recognises.

[spin_x]

another unanswered issue.. how to uninstall this satck?someone pls help..thanks

[krenno]

I found out about this BT stack driver through a thread regarding the toshiba BT stack driver, so i thought: other driver, other thread :wink:

Original thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15604
Download BlueSoleil CE here: http://ivtcorporation.com/download/BlueSoleil_Download.php#bluesoleilforce
Credits for finding this BT stack go to: rdkay

It has a lot more profiles then the standard MS stack.
Occording to their web site, supported profiles are:
PAN, OPP, SYNC, LAP, DUN, FTP, FAX, HID, SPP, HCRP, BIP, Headset, AV

The manager that comes along with it, is also a lot better then the standard one, more options, more playing around :)

I played around with it for a while, and i think it is rock sollid. Although I have only tested the SPP profile (with BT GPS). It never crashed, not even on suspend & resume. The radio will be deactivated during suspend though. For me this is perfect, because it will save battery life.
On resume, it will be automatically reactivated.

Installation procedure:

- Download Bluesoleil CE: http://www.bluesoleil.com/update/index.asp

- Before install, delete these reg keys:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\BTIcon]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\microsoft\bluetooth]

- Reboot PPC
- Install Bluesoleil CE

- During setup on PPC select Manual -> USB driver, then let setup reboot

This next step is optional, do this only when you have troubles with your GPRS connection (a newly installed network driver prevents it from operating properly on my device) Delete following reg keys:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\BTNIC]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\BTNIC1]
Reboot once more

Finished! enjoy :D

[jaxxon78]

Does anybody has the program still available as the website is not functioning.

I'm looking for Bluesoleil for WinCE. I'm interested in the potential handsfree function with a mobile phone to use it as carkit with a PDA.

I've found out that this is the program they use on the Mitac Mio A201.

Thanks

[uccoffee]

can anyone tell me does this bluetooth stack support audio to mono BT headset?

I do not want to test the software if it doesnt... cos I experience hard reset with this BT stack last time....

[rustoss]

this bluetooth stack doesn`t support audio to mono BT headset & to stereo also
This is the same, but more better
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=36395&highlight=bluesoleil

[tkbah]

when i install on my wizard, its come the error unknown system... whats the problem???