ActiveSync via wifi is awsome, but one question remains

[nomadman]

I managed to finally figure out how to use activesync without having to use a cradle. So far I haven't had the troubles that I have had when I used the cable and cradle. No more inactive activesync, can't synchronize errors, and having to restart activesync every few hours or so.

I managed to have activesync running for 2 days straight without any problems and restart of any sorts. This leads me to beleive that using wifi with activesync is more stable than using a usb/cradle.

My question is, can I completely abandon the USB/cradle when upgrading ROM, app installs, or anything that has to do with using the cradle and usb cables?

[mindracing]

I don't know the answer for certain but I should think so.

What I need to know is how to sync using wifi without it trying to access GPRS instead.

Any ideas?

[nomadman]

My 2s is configured to access wifi first (I think the setting is under the wifi config). If wifi isn't available, then it tried to access GPRS. My carrier charges an arm and a leg to use gprs, so I never configure the phone to access my carrier's GPRS. I rely on free public WIFI access and my home WIFI access to do all my internet jobs.

[3waygeek]

You'll still need the USB for ROM updates; everything else you can do over WiFi or BT.

[hoobas]

Hi nomad,

im trying to configure my laptop wifi (peer-to-peer) and 2s. My 2s can connect to laptop wifi but the activesync is not performing connection or no connection at all. appreciate your help.

thanks.

[nomadman]

@3waygeek, Thanks as I have not tried update anything since I pay a service to upgrade my things on my PPC. Sprite also does not like to backup via WiFi. I had to connect the PPC to the cradle.

@hoobas, I have WinXp/Sp2 installed. I have not had any problems connecting other than the occasional ActiveSync annoyance when I'm connecting with the USB cable. I'm sorry that I can't help you. I have not experience your problems so I can not give you a diagnosis.

[azeemakhtar]

hi nomadman

can u let me know how u set up wifi to sync activesync? i have a WLAN at home and cannot see where the option is to use wifi to sync MS Activesync.

I also want to get away from having to use the cradle each time i want to sync . AT present i am doing it using infrared which is ok but like u said wifi must be better.

Also, i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?

cheers

azeem

[nomadman]

ActiveSync starts automiatically on USB, serial, and Bluetooth connections. You'll have to use the ActiveSync link located on your PPC to connect to the PC via WiFi. This is assuming that ActiveSync does work on both your PPC and desktop. So it's best to connect to ActiveSync at least once via cradle before going ActiveSync via WiFi.

Only install ActiveSync on either your lappy or your deskop, but not on both. One limitation with ActiveSync is that you can not use more than two partnerships without some fiddling around with your PPC and your networked PC.

[BoSJo]

About Cradle ActiveSync.

Uninstall ActiveSync -> Reboot PC -> Reinstall Active Sync 3.8 and don't touch any thing or open any programs while installation is in progress.

Mine is working like a charm

[ipzipzap]

I managed to finally figure out how to use activesync without having to use a cradle.

How did you do it?
I've used the search function but I couldn't find anything about it.


Thanks,
Dino

[ipzipzap]

OK, got it to work, too. Very nice :)

But I had to set my Network Connection from "Internet" to "Work".
Is it possible to use both settings? My Wireless LAN connects also
to the internet, so I won't switch everytime I want to sync or surf.

Dino

[hlim168]

Hi nomad,

im trying to configure my laptop wifi (peer-to-peer) and 2s. My 2s can connect to laptop wifi but the activesync is not performing connection or no connection at all. appreciate your help.

thanks.

Hi hoobas, how do you configure your laptap wifi for peer-to-peer? (this is quite off topic :( ) been trying to do this for sometime. thanks :)

[nomadman]

Here is a great site site that might help some of you guys out.

http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/activesync/installation.htm#Installation:

[hoobas]

hlim,

go to settings, network connections, right click wireless connections, click properties...

tab to wireless networks, click add...

enter your ssid, and click the "ad hoc" at the lower portion of the form...

hope it helps...

[hlim168]

hlim,

go to settings, network connections, right click wireless connections, click properties...

tab to wireless networks, click add...

enter your ssid, and click the "ad hoc" at the lower portion of the form...

hope it helps...

Thanks a lot :) how about the settings on the computer side?

[sunish]

hi nomadman

can u let me know how u set up wifi to sync activesync? i have a WLAN at home and cannot see where the option is to use wifi to sync MS Activesync.

I also want to get away from having to use the cradle each time i want to sync . AT present i am doing it using infrared which is ok but like u said wifi must be better.

Also, i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?

cheers

azeem

In the network settings of yr phone, enter the ip address of machine you want to sync with as WINS server. That will tell yr phone which machine it has to connect to. You can set up peak and offpeak timings in the mobile schedule of activsync on ye PDA, so that it can sync every 10 or 15 mins .

[ducga]

Sorry if my question is too noobish. I have read so many articles talking about establishing wifi sync between a wifi enabled PPC and a wifi enabled PC, but havent been able to do yet. Do i have to have another software to enable the connection ?


Can any one please explain slowly and in detail how you could do that, i've been searching for quite a long time but still no result. And 1 more question is that after i can sync through wifi between my O22s and my laptop, does it affect the wifi connection of my laptop and my O22s? A bit silly right but i'm a new user and i'm not in IT field also. Thanks for any suggestion from you guys.

[nomadman]

@azeemakhtar,

http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/multiplepartnerships.htm

@ducga,

1. Install ActiveSync 3.8 on your lappy or PC, but not on both.
2. connect to activesync via cradle first.
3. remove unit from the cradle and reset.
4. click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button.

* The above procedure should be able to get activesync working via wifi as long as there isn't a setting problem in your router managment or firewall.
* The above precedure should work if your are able to connect to the interent on your PPC via wifi.

[fishmedia]

1. Install ActiveSync 3.8 on your lappy or PC, but not on both.
2. connect to activesync via cradle first.
3. remove unit from the cradle and reset.
4. click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button.




I also have to do the following:

3a. Click Start / settings / connections / Network cards
3b. Select Network Adapters
3c. Change 'My network card connects to' from 'The Internet' change to 'Work'
3d. Close, reset (for luck)
3e. Open ActiveSync on your desktop PC, select File / connection settings / and tick allow Network Ethernet !!
4. Now when you click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button - it won't try to use GPRS to connect and WiFi will be listed as your Work connection.


I always have to change my network card settings back to 'The Internet' before I can browse again.


Rich

[fishmedia]

i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?

Go to ActiveSync on your XDA, click tools, options.

It will say "When syncing remotely with a PC Use this PC:"

It should list the network name of the PC you currently have a partnership with. i.e. "TOMSLAPTOP"



Rich

[cease]

I don't know the answer for certain but I should think so.

What I need to know is how to sync using wifi without it trying to access GPRS instead.

Any ideas?
To not have it use GPRS, turn on flight mode, granted then the phone is off, but at least it won't use GPRS. Or be sure WiFi is on and connected to WORK, not ISP. WORK looks for your PC; ISP connects you to the Internet. If you are WiFi connected to the Internet, you won't be able to sync with your PC. You force it to WORK in the Connections area of Settings or hte Settings area of the antenna icon in the top screen panel (see below).
Also, upgrade to the 1.12.00 radio (can be found on this forum). I upgraded to the 1.40.00 WWE ROM, it had the 1.12.00 radio in it (plus lots of other goodies, WMP 10 for one), the indicator at the top of the screen now reads properly and even allows me to click on settings to change things. Highly recommended.

[nomadman]

I avoided using gprs completely by not configuring a carrier after it asked me when i hard reset.

[harry_mb]

I have heard rumours that sync'ing over wifi is not possible with the latest release of ActiveSync. Can anyone substantiate?

[nomadman]

You can not use activesyn over wifi with version 4.0 as MS removed the feature. Most of us use activesync over wifi with version 3.8 and <.