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active2005
29th April 2005, 07:44 PM
I've got a dead bootloader. My device doesn't upgrade thru SD and not with USB. can somebody please help me because i realy don't know what to do. My device is dead for almost 3 weeks now :cry:



Even my backup on SD doesn't load. And this happend after i downgrade the radio version of the well know greek rom

active2005
2nd May 2005, 01:43 PM
nobody?

Is there a solution to flash only the bootloader?

HBK
2nd May 2005, 04:33 PM
I think you need to add some more info, if anyone should have a chance to help. For example what happened when it died - how and why? What happens if you remove the battery cover, replaces it and turns on the device? Text on screen, like USB or Serial? Have you tried uploading ROM from different PCs?

The more info you provide, the more likely it is that someone recognizes your situation from own experience and can provide some help.

active2005
2nd May 2005, 10:06 PM
I think you need to add some more info, if anyone should have a chance to help. For example what happened when it died - how and why? What happens if you remove the battery cover, replaces it and turns on the device? Text on screen, like USB or Serial? Have you tried uploading ROM from different PCs?

The more info you provide, the more likely it is that someone recognizes your situation from own experience and can provide some help.

You are totaly right.

I have update my frvice with the wrong greek rom and now i have the 15 sec reboot thing.

When I startup my device he ends up the bootloader and the only way to get the device booting to windows is remove the battery cover. But the her reboots again after the 15 seconds.

In the bootloader i tried to load my backup with the SD card but nothing happens. I also tried to load a ROM with MaUpgradeUt_NoID but nothing happens. I only get empty version thing.

http://meerenvaart.tweakdsl.nl/Pics/temper.jpg

If i use the regular MaUpgradeUt and change the file change.bat for the xda3nbftool I get a error "error 201: get device data error".

I also tried to backup my device with the wrong ROM on it, to look at the header but nothing happens (romupdate.exe).

So my conclusion is that my bootloader is dead. Please correct me when i'm wrong but if this is the case how can i correct my bootloader.

KevinL
4th May 2005, 07:22 AM
When you unplug your Magician from the USB cable, what do you see?

If you see (with the backlight OFF) "Serial v1.00" or similar, thats a WORKING bootloader.

Make sure you have Active Sync DISABLED (right click the taskbar icon, click "Connection Settings..." the uncheck "Available by USB".

You should then plug in the USB cable and it should change to "USB v1.00" or similar.

Your PC may detect the connection as new hardware - that is a good sign that you have Active Sync disabled.

Let the New Hardware Wizard do it's thing, then re-run the upgrade setup and it should work.

If not, you've got BIG problems.

active2005
4th May 2005, 09:20 AM
guess I'm in big trouble :(
The only thing i can do, is trying a different pc without ASync. On the current pc i'm working on, USB in activesync is disabled.

Are there any posibilties to reload (rebuilt, update) Bootloader.

Can somebody please help me. :cry:

KevinL
4th May 2005, 09:29 AM
The bootloader is built in as it's own ROM, and I've never seen a utility that can make it writeable. I doubt you've destroyed your bootloader, but that doesn't help you - sounds like you'll have to bite the bullet, act dumber than you are, and return it to the manufacturer for a repair - and probably pay for the privilege.

active2005
4th May 2005, 10:07 AM
The bootloader is built in as it's own ROM, and I've never seen a utility that can make it writeable. I doubt you've destroyed your bootloader, but that doesn't help you - sounds like you'll have to bite the bullet, act dumber than you are, and return it to the manufacturer for a repair - and probably pay for the privilege.

:shock: :cry:

But isn't it strange that if you can't destroy it, it doesn't work anymore? And isn't there somebody who had the same problem?

Talents
4th May 2005, 03:14 PM
Before you give up, try this:

Try using another USB cable.

I have experimented many times to realise that the upgrading process does require matching with the right cable.

HBK
4th May 2005, 03:49 PM
I noticed that in the screenshot you posted, there is no info on what the device will be upgrade to! I could be wrong, but this may well mean that your device is incompatible with the ROM you are trying to upload.

Try downloading another ROM and give it a go. The best thing would be, if you can find one made specifically for your brand, ie Qtek, I-mate or whatever, and DON'T patch it. Just let the original installer do the job...

active2005
4th May 2005, 04:10 PM
Before you give up, try this:

Try using another USB cable.

I have experimented many times to realise that the upgrading process does require matching with the right cable.

I'm using the cable that came with my device so that can't be wrong. But i could give it a try.


I noticed that in the screenshot you posted, there is no info on what the device will be upgrade to! I could be wrong, but this may well mean that your device is incompatible with the ROM you are trying to upload.

Try downloading another ROM and give it a go. The best thing would be, if you can find one made specifically for your brand, ie Qtek, I-mate or whatever, and DON'T patch it. Just let the original installer do the job...

There isn't a orignal rom fot the dutch T-mobile MDA. And if you use a original installer, it uses ActiveSync. And i can't boot windows because it restarts after 15 seconds so I can't use ActiveSync.

HBK
4th May 2005, 05:46 PM
Why can't you use an original ROM updater, if you have the Greek resetting ROM installed? I believe a lot of us has done so without any problems, including me. I don't remember precisely what I did, but it was no problem whatsoever. Most likely I just entered bootloader mode first, to keep the Magician from resetting...

active2005
12th May 2005, 02:32 PM
Why can't you use an original ROM updater, if you have the Greek resetting ROM installed? I believe a lot of us has done so without any problems, including me. I don't remember precisely what I did, but it was no problem whatsoever. Most likely I just entered bootloader mode first, to keep the Magician from resetting...

I really tried everything but without any results. I realy don't know why i can't use the original ROM updater.

vz7
29th June 2005, 10:45 PM
I have the similar problem, but mine one doesnt even start windows. It always go into the bootloader mode and stays there. I try upgrading it, but it gives me communication errors.

cluelessme
1st July 2005, 10:14 PM
This is what you do.

Disconnect your JAm from USB

Go from your PC , ACTIVESYNC > FILE > CONNECTION SETTINGS > remove the check mark for ALLOW USB CONNECTION TO THIS DESKTOP COMPUTER

Now connect your JAM to your PC again via USB, this time active sync should not start since you have disabled USB

Now double click on the installer file of the original ROM and you should be good to go

After Reset , enable USB ,
Go from your PC , ACTIVESYNC > FILE > CONNECTION SETTINGS > Put a check mark for ALLOW USB CONNECTION TO THIS DESKTOP COMPUTER

vz7
2nd July 2005, 11:17 PM
I have tried.... it's not responsing as it should be.