Anyone here who stick with WM2005? [Archive]

amdworld

17th May 2005, 06:04 AM

Well its my first ever post on here tho ive bben lurking for a year or so.ive done all the upgrades over the last year for the XDAII and i got to say the recent WM2005 O2 version found on here is perfect.
however like all new os'S there is alway going to be something that wont work correct.but this version of WM2005 is very good,for the first time ive got MSN,OUTLOOK EMAIL,O2 EMAIL,SMS,MMS all fully working without any glitches through my mobile phone isp O2-UK.
I had patiently waited for someone to crack the RAM problem and now they have id say go for it.

one tip put the HimaClearJumpCode file from a previous rom in the same directory b4 upgrading it saves having to configure it to in bootloader screen.basically just click your mouse and following the onscreen instructions!.

brian

AlanJC

17th May 2005, 10:32 AM

I am currently using Wm2003se2.2.0.7WWE I think it is, but since it was translated from Chinese, there are a few bits that don't look right, but other than that, it's fast, supports handsfree, and is the most stable 2003se ROM I have tried out of about 3 so far.

I am very tempted to try 2005, I even downloaded it yesterday in case I feel adventurous later.

I have AS4 running on my PC already, and although avantgo doesn't work, it seems much faster.

But since you are so happy with it on a UK network, I may well give it a try later on today after some meetings are out of the way, and I have some time to kill.

Rayan

17th May 2005, 07:25 PM

I installed WM5.0 a week ago and I already know that I won't be looking back to old OSes.

It's simply the best ever (I've been using Pocket PC since 2000) so I know what I'm talking about. ;)

I can live with the few incompatibility problems I have encountered because I know they will be fixed soon by the talented people of XDA-Developers.com. They always do. :D

At first I installed WM5.0 to "test it" and to see what was all the "Buzz" about... (got that? hehehe) ;)

But since that day, I noticed how quickly Buzz, Toe, JoJo and the gang fixes the "problems" so I more o less feel complete.

The overall performance of the PDA and the Phone is impresive!

The only thing I miss from previous versions is the Video Capture quality. This one simply sucks, but I'm confident that the gang will fix this soon!

P.S.- Again, I would like to thank Buzz, Toe, JoJo, mamiach and the rest of talented people for this marvelous release!

Best regards,
Rayan

AlanJC

17th May 2005, 09:05 PM

OK, so far, I love it, but there are a couple of things that are proving to be a pain for me.

1) I can't install TomTom 3, need to find some GPS software that will work by the end of this week if I am going to keep 2005 on this device.

2) I don't know if my Socket BT GPS works because I have no GPS software to test it with.

Anyone got any suggestions for UK GOS software that works?

robinton

17th May 2005, 09:07 PM

Since I installed it I have noticed the following benifits:

Performance is noticeably improved over any 2003/2003se roms I've run.
The anoying tendency to have both the BlueTooth Headset and the built-in speaker/microphone live during a call has been resolved.
My Frogpad BT keyboard is also natively supported. Overall a great experience!

The only problem I have encountered is the tendency of the MSN messenger piece to behave oddly. It'll sign on, get presence information for people, then when I try to start a conversation it will give me the conversation screen then take about 60 seconds while it claims it is 'connecting' In addition on occasion it will come back and state that a IM could not be delivered, but if I copy and paste it back in it works. It also has decided to put my e-mail attachments on the NAND partition rather than the SD partition.
I brought these issues up with my Microsoft TAM yesterday and he laughed.... Perhaps I should not have phrased it as 'Do you think it would be OK for me to open a ticket for my non-release beta copy of WM2005 that I got over the internet?' :D

Robert Harrold
I-Mate Pocket PC (AKA XDA II)
Rom Version 1.50f.b WWE
Radio version 1.18.00

Installed programs:
Microsoft Reader
Adobe Reader for Pocket PC 2.0

AlanJC

17th May 2005, 11:03 PM

OK, I love this, and I would really like to keep it, but, my Stowaway XT keyboard doesn't want to work either. I know it's only a driver issue, but it's still an issue for me.

I haven't even tried the VGA backpack yet :/

rictec

17th May 2005, 11:17 PM

after all the xda is working for my every-day needs i will stay with buzzmobile 2005 :-)

vondutch

18th May 2005, 01:10 AM

I have used the wm2005, but the big thing that bothers me is that xbackup and spb pocketplus doesn't work. (battery indicator bar at the top, I love it! I first though it was some kind of bug, but now I never want any other battery level indicator.
For tomtom3 i'm using tomtom 4.40 now (works also with wm2005).

But there is nothing more worse then a sudden hard reset, and you can't restore any contacts because xbackup doesnt work.

Also I tried almost all of the roms here, and in my opinion the diamondrom 1.2 is the best complete and stable rom around here.

As long as xbackup isnt fixed on wm2005 i can't use it. Don't want to install all kinds of backup and restore programs. After a hard reset start xbackup and make a call.

Rayan

18th May 2005, 02:01 AM

...

But there is nothing more worse then a sudden hard reset, and you can't restore any contacts because xbackup doesnt work.

...

As long as xbackup isnt fixed on wm2005 i can't use it. Don't want to install all kinds of backup and restore programs. After a hard reset start xbackup and make a call.

What are you talking about?

Isn't persistant memory one of Windows Mobile 5.0 main features?

I have performed a couple of Hard Resets on purpose just to see if the whole system survives and let me tell you that it works flawlessly.

I can live without Sprite Backup for the time being!!!.... :lol:

reachhusain

18th May 2005, 04:06 AM

I successfully upgraded to WM2005 but am unable to get the hardreset to work (the key sequence I am using is power button + record button + camera button + soft reset hole, all at the same time). I have verified that each of these buttons works individually. Any ideas what I could be doing wrong?

Also, when my xda is off, there is sometimes a pattern of faint black vertical lines on the screen which disappear when its turned on. I hadn't seen them before I upgraded to 2005.

Any help would be appreciated!

awojtas

18th May 2005, 04:49 AM

I found the hard reset combination quite tricky to do, took me a few tries to do it. Just hold the camera and record buttons very firmly, press the the power button and also stick the stylus in the reset hole. Keep holding the buttons for 3 seconds after you've felt the stylus nudge the reset button.

I'm using WM2005 and have found ActiveSync using GPRS to be a little less reliable than before. I have had to soft-reset 2x in the last 24hours to get GPRS working. It simply fails to connect when requested and says cannot find www.vodafone.net.nz (the APN for Vodafone NZ). When I reset it works beautifully.

Also it seems to me to be slightly slower than 2003SE. I don't know if it's the extra animations making it *appear* slower but it does feel less reponsive. Particularly opening messages and moving them. I was using 2003SE 2.06 and then 2.20-translated prior.

However, the extra ease of use that 2005 gives makes up for this by being more productive with the time I do spend on the device.

SPB Pocket Plus definitely does not work as I'd like it to and I miss the battery meter on the top bar, plus the multiple IE windows. The IE browser is much better on 2005 though and is quicker overall.

It works great with my Bluetrek G2 headset, no change in audio quality over 2003SE.

The Pocket MSN integration with Hotmail, MSN etc is amazing and very well done. If you use Hotmail and/or MSN Messenger a lot you'll love 2005.

I'm just doing some testing to see if Intellipad is losing my predictive text words. It seems like every time I soft-reset the words I manually added disappear :(

Intellidialer is a big loss too which I really miss. Can't wait for the 2005 port.

All in all, a good OS and major improvements, but yep a little buggy still. I'd recommend it if you don't mind soft resetting often and living with a few quirks, for the sake of improved useability and a better (in most places) interface.

My record + camera buttons don't work either in 2005 btw.

awojtas

18th May 2005, 07:09 AM

Forgot to mention -- RemotelyAnywhere doesn't work with Remote control either.

The ActiveX control that is designed for PocketPCs only works on PPC2002 or 2003, not 2005.

If you need to remotely control a PC or server then you will be stuck.

Rayan

18th May 2005, 07:53 AM

dazza8082

18th May 2005, 09:28 AM

Been using Buz-an-Co mobile 2005 for a while now, absolutely no intention of removing at all. Fair enough somethings dont work, but on the whole, its more stable, i find it faster, BT works the way its ment to, and it looks just so cool! i sync my contacts in outlook and store all my data on the Rom OR SD-Card so i'll never actualy lose anything of importance..... AND and by far the most important reason......I can give me mates with the XDA IIi the two fingers! ahh u may have wifi but u cant get 2005 working!! :o)

My only serious gripe is MSN messanger not working (fixed by using Agile messanger) and Tomtom 3's total refusal to install. (on that note i was able to start the install process and just before it crashes find the cab files in a temp directory and install them manually, it installed but when you run it, it comes up with "voice files not installed, blar blar" then the program runs for a second before crashing to desktop.)

hartej

18th May 2005, 12:13 PM

...

Also, when my xda is off, there is sometimes a pattern of faint black vertical lines on the screen which disappear when its turned on. I hadn't seen them before I upgraded to 2005.

Any help would be appreciated!

Yeah! I noticed the lines today... Any other people with the same artifacts on the screen? :?:

Yup, occasionally

Been using Buz-an-Co mobile 2005 for a while now, absolutely no intention of removing at all. Fair enough somethings dont work, but on the whole, its more stable, i find it faster, BT works the way its ment to, and it looks just so cool! i sync my contacts in outlook and store all my data on the Rom OR SD-Card so i'll never actualy lose anything of importance..... AND and by far the most important reason......I can give me mates with the XDA IIi the two fingers! ahh u may have wifi but u cant get 2005 working!! )

My only serious gripe is MSN messanger not working (fixed by using Agile messanger) and Tomtom 3's total refusal to install. (on that note i was able to start the install process and just before it crashes find the cab files in a temp directory and install them manually, it installed but when you run it, it comes up with "voice files not installed, blar blar" then the program runs for a second before crashing to desktop.)

Agile messenger works a treat on WM2005, and you can connect to MSN, AOL, ICQ etc...
Apparently WM2005 is smartphone compatible, so you could try TomTom mobile, I've heard it works, but the touch-screen doesn't (as it's built for phones). Haven't tried it myself though.

pschoch

18th May 2005, 03:55 PM

I will also not go back to 2003SE.

I'm using the full version since Saturday and I have no issues at all. All my buttons work. OK, once in a while the XDA freezes and I need a softreset, but that's more likely from the applications I installed which are maybe not 100% Magneto compatible. Also, I'm still trying to get the USB syncing to work. So far I sync via bluetooth.

I love that Contacts syncs the picture from Outlook on the PC. Much better than all the picture-caller ID software.

But really best of all: I don't have to be scared of hardresets anymore and I can use the XDAII until the battery is down.

I was thinking about buying the Mini or maybe the XDA IV when it comes out later this year. But I have decided to continue using my XDAII since it is just great with Magneto.

Cheers

Pat

AlanJC

18th May 2005, 04:24 PM

I am interested to see why people think that they don't have to be scared of hard resets?

The Himalaya does *not* support persistant storage, unless you choose to save something to the flash rom, or SD card, you *will* lose it after a hard reset.

The OS does not give you the safety of the new features, that's still a hardware issue, so don't think you have persistant storage because the OS supports it.

rmhtoh

18th May 2005, 04:36 PM

Hi,
I have installed WM2005 and fall back to WM2003SE twice.
1st: the chinese software CEstar cause the touch screen to hang (no respond) when I install it. Reinstall the WM2005 still face the same problem, so 1st fall back to WM2003SE.
2nd: After installing the WM2005, my Spectec SDIO wifi don't seem to be able to have the transmitter on. Able to see network available but cannot connect. Tried reinstall the driver but no result. Waiting for Spectec to reply regards to the driver. So 2nd fall back to WM2003SE.
Ric

Rudegar

18th May 2005, 05:03 PM

but it does support a form of persistant storage as in permenent save / storage on the old roms

not really enough though.......

and if the persistant storage of newer devices save the data in flash then could it not be troublesome in the long run since flash have a limited times you can write on it before it goes belly up
much like a cd-rw or dvd-rw disc

sprint

18th May 2005, 05:14 PM

:P Is no way to go back ! I love it !

Edi_Min

18th May 2005, 06:37 PM

I love it too
but may be i want 2 downgrade to Wm2003 SE
coz my radio still 1.08
Downgrade to wm2003SE to get latest radio version
then upgrade to WM 2005

Rom Version : 1.50f.00.WWE
Radio : 1.08
Protocol : 1337.18

pschoch

19th May 2005, 03:50 PM

With 2003SE I couldn't even take out and replace the battery; this resulted in a hard reset (yes, the backup battery was full...).

With Magneto I can take out the battery and put a new battery back in. No issues.

Pat

double_ofour

20th May 2005, 12:45 PM

Im goin to revert back to Wm2003se cuz my important Messages and some apointments cant restore using Sprite Backup and also the Pocket Informant 2005 is not working.. Ill wait untill sprite backup supports 2005 and informant for me to stick with 2005

patrick_dube

20th May 2005, 06:50 PM

The two things that gor me downgrading to 2003 is Destinator 3.075 and MS Money... Destinator does not want to install on 2005; the installer states that the Os is not recognised... something like that. I will be buying iGuidance 2.1.1 as soon as it's out and will be testing it under 2005. Money don't want to sync with the PC... Crap :( . I really love the new interface and the new options in the config. I'll be switching back to 2005 as soon as I got these two working properly under 2005.

Hansje

20th May 2005, 07:53 PM

Consider myself very lucky indeed :D A few weeks ago I got a 2nd hand XDAII on ebay & cause it came with a dated OS I started looking for OS upgrades. I instantly stumbled onto WM5 & have never looked back since :D I never had any hardware probs with the buttons or anything, it synched first time & my BT GPS works perfectly. A PPC / Mobile with an OS that can't even be had on the latest PPC's / Mobiles for £160 :D U don't hear me complaining.

Greetz & thankz to BL,

Leynard

22nd May 2005, 03:35 PM

Rayan

22nd May 2005, 09:14 PM

Cheers for all the brave souls who have the taken the plunge to Windows Mobile 2005. I heard that the camera application & the MMS feature is a bit hairy. Can anybody please post WM2003, WM2003SE & WM2005 pictures (taken with your xda cam) so we can compare them?

I don't see any differences between the photos taken witn WM2003SE and WM5.0...

The problems are:

1. The Photos can't be skinned with frames or decorations like in the previous version

2. The Zoom does not work

3. The Video Camera is awful. The video is choppy and simply not worth any use.

sprint

23rd May 2005, 05:45 AM

:arrow: Sucks : Pocket Informant is not working .

Leynard

25th May 2005, 05:57 AM

Rayan

25th May 2005, 06:56 PM

The problems are:

1. The Photos can't be skinned with frames or decorations like in the previous version

2. The Zoom does not work

3. The Video Camera is awful. The video is choppy and simply not worth any use.

Could it be that the reason for the camera's awful video performance - be related to WM2005's limited memory space?

I think that this Camera Applet sucks because it's an early beta or something like that.

I can't wait to see a final WM5.0 and the full set of Exteded_Rom applications like MMS, Video MMS, Intellipad, etc... :cry:

AlanJC

25th May 2005, 08:17 PM

Zoom does not work because it was designed for a 1.3mp or higher camera, and it works by pixel quadroupling and interpolation to guess the detail, 640x480 is too low for it.

Rayan

25th May 2005, 08:28 PM

Zoom does not work because it was designed for a 1.3mp or higher camera, and it works by pixel quadroupling and interpolation to guess the detail, 640x480 is too low for it.

I think you just hit the nail... That must be it!

But what about the video camera? I noticed that now it uses DirectX drivers or something. Could it be that the current camera hardware does not work 100% with the new application?

kevster

4th August 2005, 08:10 PM

Only had my xda II running buzz 2005 !! for just over a day. I was up untill gone 4am working out how i can use my TTN 5 on it. And Sucess Backlight Works , Sound works and GPS reciever is bonded yes very tricky but well worth the effort. As long as it keeps running the way it is now I will stick with it. Im so looking forward to newer updates that will make it run smoother The main problem is installing software to a very small space as lots of it wont work from the ramdisc32/ im sure this and many other problems will be over come soon. Also what i think alot of people are missing here is this is a beta version for testing and it will contain bugs but how the guys here have got rid of so many of them already is amazing. You wouldnt install microsoft longhorn/vista beta 1 and expect no problems so u cant expect the same here. If you like to be amoung the 1st to see and use a new product its the price u have to pay. I would rather that then wait until the official stable release is out (even though im looking forward to getting my hands on it)!!!!! Keep up the great work all outstanding stuff take a min to give ya selfs a well deserved pat on the back!

Innovator

5th August 2005, 08:33 PM

WM2005 BIGGEST FLAWS
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I installed the latest Buzz rom (96 version with 32MB ram) but after installing some small toolz the ram gets full to fast!

No XBackup

Picture / Video quality VERY POOR (your camera is for nothing now)

TomTom2005 doensn't work (without hex patch)

And sometimes other small problems which you find after working with it...

I always have new stuff (pc,...) but I prefer a STABLE ROM, so thats why I get back to the WM2003SE XDA JOJO version.

The layout is nicer of WM2005 with 2 easy tabs (phone,contacts) at the bottom,but i won't keep this rom for the layout, the functionallity goes above it!

irblinx

5th August 2005, 09:08 PM

The Roms from Buzz do exactly what they say on the tin, they are to allow us to test the operating system in advance of fully compatible devices being available, I have been very impressed with the enhancements to Contacts, Pocket Office Apps, Pictures & Videos and the new softkey approach at the bottom of the screen.

Buzz deserves a massive pat on the back for sorting this out on the Himalaya and I've used it on and off as a phone but for anything else I revert back to my Xda IIs.

We won't really know how the new devices will perform until we get our grubby mits on them but from what I've seen so far there's been some very encouraging advances.