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ccrrazzzy
24-06-2005, 01:07 AM
With a Jabra BT800 and the attached file, you can have BT voice dial with the click of two buttons!
One button on the BT800, I press the first button, then on the PDA2, I have to press the second button.. This sucks having to press two buttons, especially the one on the PDA2 but, it is ok.
The first button transfers the audio and mic to the BT800.
The second button is a button mapped to the attached program or to a link for that program. You must put the program or the link,(shortcut), in the \windows\Start Menu\Programs for the button mapping settings to see it.

I have tried Fonix and MS and they suck. MS took over the whole dam PPC and Fonix was not accurate.

After training the attached program, (click, settings, Digit Dialling, Adapt digits), the one from the MPX300, (Voicesignal), works better and it is a simple and working program.

Sergio_Bandeira
24-06-2005, 01:38 AM
Cool! :shock:

Only the PDA button is not needed... hehe :lol:

Do you know if this app only work with Jabra BT800?
I have a Bluespoon AX.


I will try that as soon as possible and post here the results.

One more thing:
The zip have two EXEs, please tell me what are they.
One to the button shortcut and the other?
Which is which?

vbguru613
24-06-2005, 03:50 AM
can i test on my sx66?

sanwijay
24-06-2005, 03:57 AM
Excuse me ... craaazzzyyy ... where can I download the attached files ??? Will it be working on non Jabra device ? Original O2 handsfree perhaps ??? TIA

Sergio_Bandeira
24-06-2005, 03:59 AM
Excuse me ... craaazzzyyy ... where can I download the attached files ??? Will it be working on non Jabra device ? Original O2 handsfree perhaps ??? TIA

The file is attached to the first post of this thread.

There are a "Download" link.
Please click on it! :wink:

sanwijay
24-06-2005, 04:10 AM
Sorry ... I forgot to log in ... my mistake ...
Will it work on non Jabra device ??? TIA

shadowy
24-06-2005, 10:31 AM
With a Jabra BT800 and the attached file, you can have BT voice dial with the click of two buttons!
One button on the BT800, I press the first button, then on the PDA2, I have to press the second button.. This sucks having to press two buttons, especially the one on the PDA2 but, it is ok.


What the button your press ?
Please write more detail instruction for installation and using this program.

Sergio_Bandeira
24-06-2005, 03:05 PM
Sorry ... I forgot to log in ... my mistake ...
It happens... :wink:
You can check the "remember me" box if you want.

What the button your press ?
Anyone!
Because it's YOU that define what button should press.
I'll explain...
You copy the application (or a shortcut to it) to the Programs in start menu folder.
Then, you go to Start Menu > Settings > Buttons and choose what button you want to assign to the application.
Do you undertood?

Please write more detail instruction for installation and using this program.
Yes! It's a must!

ccrrazzzy
24-06-2005, 04:35 PM
Sorry ... I forgot to log in ... my mistake ...
It happens... :wink:
You can check the "remember me" box if you want.

What the button your press ?
Anyone!
Because it's YOU that define what button should press.
I'll explain...
You copy the application (or a shortcut to it) to the Programs in start menu folder.
Then, you go to Start Menu > Settings > Buttons and choose what button you want to assign to the application.
Do you undertood?

Please write more detail instruction for installation and using this program.
Yes! It's a must!
Thank you for explaining.

On the O2 XDAIIi and the PDA2, any BT headset that transfers the audio to the device when you press the button on the device, should work. You may have to be in Handsfree Mode..

Whenever you see this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/files/bt_288.jpg
you have the audio and mic transferd to the headset.,

On my wifes MPX300, while in Headset Mode using the HBH662, (strange that it ONLY works that way and not if I add HandsfreeProfileOn in the reg to make it Hands Free Profile!), when you press the button on the Headset, it not only transfers to audio and mic to the headset but also starts the Voicestream program automatically. The MPX300 does this with most headset devices as well, I am just suprized that the Handsfree Profile does not work with the HBH662 because that is the only way caller ID will work.

The MPX300 must have a special driver that also calls up the voicestream program automatically.

Or, if any one knows of a way to change the registry to not only make the audio and mic transfer but also start a program all from a button push on the BT headset, you would win my love and affection! :shock: :D

vbguru613
24-06-2005, 05:38 PM
so how we get this to work on the PDA2K??

ccrrazzzy
24-06-2005, 05:52 PM
so how we get this to work on the PDA2K??

If you can get audio and mic to transfer when you are NOT on the phone by pressing the button on the BT headset, you can.. If not, SOL. :( :?

patjack
24-06-2005, 06:17 PM
With a Jabra BT800 and the attached file, you can have BT voice dial with the click of two buttons!
One button on the BT800, I press the first button, then on the PDA2, I have to press the second button.. This sucks having to press two buttons, especially the one on the PDA2 but, it is ok.


Sounds like you are just an arm's length from the PDA,
how do you know that it was the BT headset that picks up the voice
dial, but not the PDA itself? :wink:

afs84
24-06-2005, 06:42 PM
ccrrazzzy wrote:
The first button transfers the audio and mic to the BT800.

You're saying that u can transfer regular audio to the headset, we all know there's a workaround that enables that option, but it doesn't really transfer any audio. When u press the button on the headset, u can actually hear an audio stream (like a hissing sound) but no audio is really transferred. same issue for the microphone.

patjack wrote:
Sounds like you are just an arm's length from the PDA,
how do you know that it was the BT headset that picks up the voice
dial, but not the PDA itself?

that's right...are u sure it's picking up sounds from the headset itself?

afs84
24-06-2005, 07:00 PM
ccrrazzzy wrote:
MS took over the whole dam PPC

what do u mean by that...if as u claim, MS voice command should be the better voice dialing solution. instead o getting extracted third-party software.

tumtum
24-06-2005, 10:11 PM
To ccrrazzzy

I understand what you mean about transfer voicefrom PPC to Bt headset.

But in the file that you uploaded.
It includes
- VoiceSignalLauncher.exe
- VoiceSignal .exe
How can I use that file ?

You said that put it in \Wndows\StartMenu\Programs ,Which one?

and What about anotherone file ?

Could you tell me more bout it ?

ccrrazzzy
25-06-2005, 01:56 AM
Yes, here is my daughter's friend. She hears music on the BT800.
You can not here her well but she said that she can here music and that she sprayed her self in the face with pepper spray today. (being silly), and then I put the speaker to the mic on the front of the PDA2.

You see, on the PDA2, (most likey on the XDAIIi too), the audio gets transferd to the BT headset when you press the "answer" button when you are not in a phone call.

This is true for the HBH662 and the BT800.

I am sure that the sound is going through the mic on the BT devices.

ccrrazzzy
25-06-2005, 01:59 AM
To ccrrazzzy

I understand what you mean about transfer voicefrom PPC to Bt headset.

But in the file that you uploaded.
It includes
- VoiceSignalLauncher.exe
- VoiceSignal .exe
How can I use that file ?

You said that put it in \Wndows\StartMenu\Programs ,Which one?

and What about anotherone file ?

Could you tell me more bout it ?

Put the file on your device, right click on it, select Copy. Go to \Wndows\StartMenu\Programs right click and select Paste Shortcut. You can make a new folder if you want too, it just hast to be there to be mapped to a button.

The Launcher.

afs84
25-06-2005, 02:20 AM
well thats really interesting, is it possible that u can upload the whole HKLM\software\widcomm key so we can take a look? u know there's someone willing to pay to get that working in another thread :) maybe u'd be the solution ccrrazzzy :)

ccrrazzzy
25-06-2005, 03:00 AM
Done

ccrrazzzy
25-06-2005, 03:02 AM
ccrrazzzy wrote:
MS took over the whole dam PPC

what do u mean by that...if as u claim, MS voice command should be the better voice dialing solution. instead o getting extracted third-party software.
I don't like every phone call and alarm be read.

Sergio_Bandeira
25-06-2005, 03:19 AM
To ccrrazzzy

I understand what you mean about transfer voicefrom PPC to Bt headset.

But in the file that you uploaded.
It includes
- VoiceSignalLauncher.exe
- VoiceSignal .exe
How can I use that file ?

You said that put it in \Wndows\StartMenu\Programs ,Which one?

and What about anotherone file ?

Could you tell me more bout it ?

Put the file on your device, right click on it, select Copy. Go to \Wndows\StartMenu\Programs right click and select Paste Shortcut. You can make a new folder if you want too, it just hast to be there to be mapped to a button.

The Launcher.

Earth call ccrrazzzy! Earth call ccrrazzzy!

You keep saying THE file.
What the people are asking is WHICH file?
You send two of them. :wink:

ccrrazzzy
25-06-2005, 03:52 AM
As I have said before, "The Launcher. " IE Voicesiglanlauncher.exe

afs84
25-06-2005, 12:13 PM
after taking a look at your .reg files....i found dome differences....but what i found most interesting was these two entries in:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Widcomm\BtConfig\Gener al]

"Voice_Command_Script"="\\Windows\\VCMD_Script212.bts"
"Phone_Script"="\\Windows\\Phone_Script212.bts"

seems there are some scripts allowing voice command - therefor audio stream to the headset....

ccrrazzzy would u be kind enough and post these files :)

afs84
25-06-2005, 04:20 PM
Come on ccrraaazy ...i'm counting on you.....

ccrrazzzy
25-06-2005, 06:32 PM
Come on ccrraaazy ...i'm counting on you.....
Chill dude! I got to sleep ya know! :P :wink:

ccrrazzzy
25-06-2005, 06:49 PM
Funny! The maker of the great Voicesignal program replied to one of my old posts. (Yes more accurate and better funtioning than the MS and Fonix DESPITE those who said different here and most likely have not even tested all three like I have).

I replied back. I hope he/they listen.. If they help us, we MUST give money.. That is their only motivation, unlike us who are just doing what we do do have usefull and cool devices.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=129995#129995

afs84
25-06-2005, 08:10 PM
still workin on it....looks like its a long way :)
i know i've been a pain in the A$$....but can u plzzzz upload these files:

btwizardhfp.dll
HfpControlPanel.dll
Hfpui.exe

ccrrazzzy
25-06-2005, 08:30 PM
Hey, I do not mind helping. No need to say sorry.

I will upload in a sec. Do you want to try and see about the MPX300? It automatically brings up the Voicesignal program.

After you get good sound on the other devices like the PDA2 has, the next thing would be to get a program like Voicesignal to start too.

afs84
25-06-2005, 08:35 PM
it's just i'm gettin close to the solution...i cant stop the adrenalin :lol: lol

anyways thanks alot....and sure i'd be happy to look at the mpx's reg files...after all i'm gonna need them after i solve this prob :wink: :P

ccrrazzzy
25-06-2005, 08:43 PM
Here ya go.

afs84
25-06-2005, 09:23 PM
well looks like a dead end....i think it's a shortcoming of the current bt stack in the pda2k... but assuming both stacks in the pda2 and pdak are the same....there might be another problem....will keep on trying....meanwhile if anyone got any thoughts....please share em.

afs84
25-06-2005, 09:58 PM
well i jut tried my pda2k with the SE hbh-662..... works like a charm !! :) could it be because of the 1.2 blutooth clas??? i'm gonna need to dig deeper into this...

ccrrazzzy
26-06-2005, 03:31 AM
Wow! You got it?
CCCCCCCCCCCCCCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLL!

Good Job!

So the sound and mic get set to the device at the touch of a button of the HBH662 on PDA2K too now,,, Not just the PDA2? :wink: :P 8) 8)

The 1.2 should have nothing to do with it. Just a hopping thing for security.

vbguru613
26-06-2005, 04:09 AM
breakthrough!!! can you post The exact directions so i can test on my sx66.

If this works..... holy *&((

afs84
26-06-2005, 12:07 PM
i know its great...but i cant finish this myself...i need some help..here's the senario:
i found out that it wasnt a problem with the headset . which ever headset i used...it would work flawlessly untill either the pda or headset goes into standby..then nothing would make it work again except unpairing,reset,pairing.
all i did was change some files(actually lots of files)...and reg settings. anyhow ill write a complete tutorial in a couple of hours...just let me get home.but still its one step forward...:)

but now just for more testing....could u plz post AudioGW.dll plz?

afs84
26-06-2005, 03:57 PM
ccrrazzzy...could u change the thread's title or move to another thread so ppl could participate more and know what the thread is all about now...

ccrrazzzy
26-06-2005, 05:57 PM
I am sure you are aware of this, (for you are as determined as I was in my quest to get BT working right on 2.20 translated and I have done most of the stuff you have done in this situation), but you will NEED BT 3900 on your PDA2k. All other stacks, (including the MS stack on 2.20), do not wake up the other BT device’s correctly nor do they keep the connection alive well.

I had this problem, the WORST, on the Xlive 100 http://www.expansys-usa.com/advsearch.asp?srch=all&search=xlive&page=1&sort=stocklevel . On the PDA2, it works great. It kept the connection up all night and even with the Xlive not connected, the PDA2 “hunts” for it so hard that it connects and wakes up the Xlive and I can answer by the third ring and see the caller ID.

This is also true with my wife’s MPX300 with the newest 02/05 ROM on it using the MS stack. (It also would not work with the HBH662 after it fell asleep or the connection was lost by separating the two and it would not work in Hands Free mode even if I added the “HandsfreeProfileOn” under the MS BT settings in the reg)

Using the PDA2, the HBH662 is the quickest to answer out of all of them.

So, you will need to port over the 3900 stack to get this to work and this may be your only problem right now.

As for changing the name, I can do that but I do not know how to switch treads.

What should the name be? “One step closer to BT voice dialing on the PDA2 and even on the PDA2K!”

To be honest, having the sound transferred to the BT device is no good. The sound is bad and if your goal is to listen to music, you will be disappointed by mono with some static.

You could add a reference to this post in the PDA2k section too.

afs84
26-06-2005, 07:16 PM
Actually i am using the 3900 stack....

I should have made myself clearer..what I meant by loosing connection and having to unpair, pair , was about theregular audio stream...the audio stream works untill the device or headset goes to standby..after that I cannot hear regular audio anymore...but other than that.. I can make phonecalls and answer them flawlessly even sometimes from the 1st ring... I'm very pleased with my headset's performance...except for the crackling noise sometimes.

Also, the whole process of transferring audio to the BT headset is meant for voicedialling...not mp3's and stuff. So as long as i can transfer audio input and output to my headset, I am 90% done with bt voice dialling...the only problem left will be triggering the voice command app. to start when pressing the voicedial button on the headset. which i guess is a very simple procedure.

So untill then..i need some final tests before writing my solution tutorial...so all i need from u now is to upload this file: AudioGW.dll....and a copy of the MPX300 registry...and to keep fingers crossed :D

Wish me luck

afs84
26-06-2005, 09:30 PM
Aiight just noticed a new problem...

Now when u press the Voice Dial button on ur PDA2....and then press the other button for the Voice command App. and make a call for example.... after you finish the call...do sounds still get diverted to ur headset???

what i noticed is that sometimes sound keeps going to the headset even after a call...which is annoying....

just wanna check...

Waiting for u to come back ;)

EDIT: Sorted out this prob :)

lfaustino
26-06-2005, 10:46 PM
Hello all,

I've read thr thread several times, and don't seem to find answers to some questions. Is this already working in a XDA II or WTEK 2020? In whzt bluetooth stack? Microsoft, Widcomm? What OS version 2003, SE, WM5?
I want to make this work, and believe everyone that uses a bt headset, would want to, but the question is how.
Can you write an easy tutorial with the steps needed? Thanks to all.

afs84
27-06-2005, 12:24 AM
Hello all,

I've read thr thread several times, and don't seem to find answers to some questions. Is this already working in a XDA II or WTEK 2020? In whzt bluetooth stack? Microsoft, Widcomm? What OS version 2003, SE, WM5?
I want to make this work, and believe everyone that uses a bt headset, would want to, but the question is how.
Can you write an easy tutorial with the steps needed? Thanks to all.

This is for lfaustino and all others wondering about this issue...

I have no idea about qtek2020...nor WM5... although i was a happy user of both once....

This thread was brought up after we found out that tha imate PDA2 ( XDAIIi) has the ability to send regular audio (Sounds, notifs.) to a BT headset. We can confirm that BT voice dialling does work but in a vauge manner, that is presing more than one button.

The issue now is to get any HTC device (Runing the widcomm stack) to send audio to any BT headset, and recieve audio from the headset's mic.

I can also confirm that i can do that on an imate PDA2k (XDAIIs) but still not effectively.... until i figure that out...which presumably should be soon, i will write a complete tutorial on how it's done..then we can all search for a way to trigger the voice command application by just pressing the button on the BT headset.

So if anyone's interested (and i'm sure alot are) just keep posting here and give us ur opinions... and those are just reading....check this thread regularly ...the solution should be out in a matter of days or maybe hours :)

All in all if this hopefully works, it should work on any HTC device running WM2003 or 2003SE , with the widcomm BT stack 3900.

Thats all for now... any suggestions are welcome.

Sergio_Bandeira
27-06-2005, 12:56 AM
This can be a silly question, but...

Anyone can explain what is the Bluetooth Stack?
Is it some kind of drivers?

What the differences between Microsoft and Widcomm Stacks?
Is one better than another or both have pros and cons?


Thank you in advance!

afs84
27-06-2005, 12:09 PM
aiight crazy....as long as you still have'nt posted any files....this is what i need now:

AudioGW.dll
BTAudioGW.dll
a copy of the MPX's registry


thanks...

vbguru613
27-06-2005, 02:27 PM
we dont care about the audio to the BT

we want the fact that you can map the bt headset button to a program???

afs84
27-06-2005, 02:37 PM
we dont care about the audio to the BT

we want the fact that you can map the bt headset button to a program???

What's good with mapping the bt headset's button to open the voice dial application if no sound it picked up from the headset or sent to it ????????
:x

lets get the headset to work reliably (by that i mean SENDING TO and RECIEVING FROM the PDA) then we'll deal with program mapping.....

ccrrazzzy
27-06-2005, 07:42 PM
Yes, us PDA2 and XDAIIi owners may only be interested in getting a program mapping to the BT device button because we have the audio working fine, BUT, this guy is very good, better than me, beter than anyone I know with BT. (No offence to the God's like mamaich and Buzz, etc)
He has imported and copied all kinds of stuff and he has the best chance of doing it, not only for all the XDAIIs people, but all the other HTC owners.
If he can get the audio transferd and the mic transferd to a BT headset on all HTC devices, he will be a God.

After he gets that done, getting the BT device to ahve an application mapped to it when it starts the audio transfer, should be No problem.

Also, be thankful that all the files he has asked for, (so far), are not XIP.. If they were, we would be SOL!

ccrrazzzy
27-06-2005, 08:08 PM
we dont care about the audio to the BT

we want the fact that you can map the bt headset button to a program???

What's good with mapping the bt headset's button to open the voice dial application if no sound it picked up from the headset or sent to it ????????
:x

lets get the headset to work reliably (by that i mean SENDING TO and RECIEVING FROM the PDA) then we'll deal with program mapping.....

You see, HTC, or whomever, (MS and Broadcomm), made it so when when the phone program starts a call or recieves a call, the sound and mic get transferd to the BT device.
Now the PDA2, (Soon IIs devices too), can have the sound and mic transferd a the push of a button.
He is trying to get the botton to do both.

If you just had the BT device start a program at the push of a button, it would not do much because there would be no sound, (Besides the HTC Alpine devices).

To answer someones question about BT stacks.
MS made many.. The only one that I know of that works very well is the one on the 2005 OS.
Broadcomm, (aka Widcomm), made many and the only ones that I know of that work very well are the 3500 and 3900 stack.
A stack is another name for the version.

macsoft
27-06-2005, 10:28 PM
I know you are close to a solution this way, but I would like to try and sugest an alternate metod:
PDA2K (and other HTCs) transfers audio to BT only when there's a call, when there's an open line to PHONE MODE. So instead of trying to bring audio tranfer out of PHONE MODE to NORMAL MODE, why not make the program to "fake dial" and receive the voice command in a "fake call". Like it would try to dial a number just to open the PHONE MODE and then receive the audio from the BTs mic.
Like, when I dial "voice mail" for example,when in call, the mic on BT would be captured to the Voice Dialing program. This doesn't seems impossible, because we can record a call in a press of a button allready. So, instead of recording to a file that we can listen, it would record to a temp file that the voice dialing program would listen as a voice command. This way we would only use the resouces readly available on our hardware.
Is this possible?
Hope I waz able to make myself clear.
byMaC

isk2005
27-06-2005, 10:35 PM
hi , i am using i-mate[xda 2 ] running buzzmobile wm2005.
will this work with my pda.
and will it work with any other headset like jabra 330 or
motorola 850.

thanks for ur help.......

afs84
27-06-2005, 11:30 PM
Yes, us PDA2 and XDAIIi owners may only be interested in getting a program mapping to the BT device button because we have the audio working fine, BUT, this guy is very good, better than me, beter than anyone I know with BT. (No offence to the God's like mamaich and Buzz, etc)
He has imported and copied all kinds of stuff and he has the best chance of doing it, not only for all the XDAIIs people, but all the other HTC owners.
If he can get the audio transferd and the mic transferd to a BT headset on all HTC devices, he will be a God.

After he gets that done, getting the BT device to ahve an application mapped to it when it starts the audio transfer, should be No problem.

Also, be thankful that all the files he has asked for, (so far), are not XIP.. If they were, we would be SOL!

Thanks crazy for clearing things up..... i was a little busy but i just read the new posts...downloading attachments now and testing...

I know you are close to a solution this way, but I would like to try and sugest an alternate metod:
PDA2K (and other HTCs) transfers audio to BT only when there's a call, when there's an open line to PHONE MODE. So instead of trying to bring audio tranfer out of PHONE MODE to NORMAL MODE, why not make the program to "fake dial" and receive the voice command in a "fake call". Like it would try to dial a number just to open the PHONE MODE and then receive the audio from the BTs mic.
Like, when I dial "voice mail" for example,when in call, the mic on BT would be captured to the Voice Dialing program. This doesn't seems impossible, because we can record a call in a press of a button allready. So, instead of recording to a file that we can listen, it would record to a temp file that the voice dialing program would listen as a voice command. This way we would only use the resouces readly available on our hardware.
Is this possible?
Hope I waz able to make myself clear.
byMaC

Well i thought of that....but somehow it would be harder and not efficient... if we can "fool" the pda into phone dialling mode and transfer audio and mic to the headset, keep in mind that whenever a phone call is initiated, all other audio is muted untill the call is finished. Now i know this could solve the problem....but i requires lots of work that i'm incapable to accomplish easily. Other than that, it wouldn't be efficient in a matter of...lets say this senario takes place:

you're using ms voice command for voice dialling aiight, ou say a name , and the app. says (keep in mind all other audio is muted): "Call whoever at home or mobile?" you wouldn't hear that now would you??i know u can avoid this in certain ways, but that wouldnt be efficient now would it?

All i want to say is that transferring audio and mic is the best solution cuz it's supposed to be that way.. and it's easier and gives u more options...

As for triggering the voice application, i'm sure it's quite easy, it should'nt be more that a .dll file , a config file, or a script that does the whole process... will look into that later (hopefully soon) and if anyone thinks they can accomplish somehin, there you have the MPX's registry, try looking around for irregular options, file names or scripts that might do the trick, then we can port it to our beloved XDA's :)

thats all for now...stick around , as i'm gonna write a tutorial soon, wether i could get this to work correctly, or not, just to give ppl a chance to fiddle around a little, maybe someone got a better solution in mind :)

ccrrazzzy
02-07-2005, 11:28 PM
Here is the latest build of VoiceSignal. It works much better and understands commands better. Commands, like "Voice Dial" and "Yes" and "No".

Where is our hero afs84? Any hope?

afs84
04-07-2005, 01:06 AM
Hey everyone....

Sorry i haven't posted in a while ...but here's the thing:

The other day i download the rest of the files that crazy attached...no difference in connection quality...but some improvement after replacing audiogw.dll.

Anyways later that day i started to write a tutorial on my pda2k of what i did do everybody could benefit...suddenly i get a call saying i have to travel abroad immediately on business...so i pack my bags and leave.

I get there at night, rent a car , and leave heading to the hotel...i open up my briefcase to get my bluetooth gps, but realized that i forgot it home. After some rest i fiddled a little with my pda, continued writing the tutorial. The next day i finished my meeting and a friend told me that the carrier where i am has a service which enables recieving detailed location specification from the carrier as SMS via broadcast channels. When i got to the hotel, i did the settings and happily recieved my first location sms :)

After a while it became hard opening each msg to check my location, so i decided to install JGUI's MY|MESSAGES (for all thos who don't know its an app. that displays messages on the today screen) . I go to starbucks, turn on my wifi, and surf, i downloaded the app. and installed it, but for some reason the today plugin didn't appear. I went to start =>settings. once i hit "today" my pda just went BLANK... i did a soft reset, nothin. hard reset. nothin. I got really nervous and furious..i tried every possible thing...but nothing.

Anyhow i went back to the hotel, luckily i always carry a spare cell phone with me wherever i go. so i just swapped the sim card and there i am , like a fool with my old nokia.

I got home last night and immediately put a fresh copy of the 1.40 rom (with the 1.13 radio rom :) ) and here i am posting again.

The conclusion is:

@ JGUI: if i ever see you, believe me i'm gonna kick ur @$$.. you suck at programming, go find another carreer ( this is the second time that som of ur apps kill my pda, the first was my|phone).

@everybody else: gotta start from scratch now...will redo everything and post soon :)


afs84.

ccrrazzzy
05-07-2005, 08:52 AM
DUDE!!! THAT SUCKS! :evil: :x :? After experiancing a hard reset on my Himalaya almost every frickin DAY, I realized ExtROM is a waist of space and the only way to run these devices is with a DAILY Sprite back up.
It is a must and you can set it to keep the last three backups so you can always "rewind" from crappy programs.

Sunnysoft claims the same but I have not got it to work right yet.

hdubli
06-07-2005, 06:07 PM
Hi every one,
To all those who are putting lot of efforts,,,just wanted to give a clue...
I don't know if u guys have Caller tones from yr service provider...this means that one listens to a song instead of "tring tring".

So when I dial any of my friends who have activated this service, I can very well listed to the songs played...

This can give some clue to make things happen.

efjay
06-07-2005, 06:36 PM
here's a link to some interesting stuff at pdaphonehome with the Samsung i730 http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51188

helix139
07-07-2005, 05:19 PM
hey afs84, any update on that tutorial? It'll be great not having to bring my wired stereo earbuds along to listen to internet radio

Grizzly
09-07-2005, 10:40 AM
ccrrazzzy would u post this file : BT_Init_Script212.bts

afs84
09-07-2005, 03:24 PM
Sorry again guys for the late reply..but again i'm a bit busy these days..

Anyways here's a simple step-by-step prosedure of everything I did (I guess) The results may not be that excitiong, but at least it works for a while :)

Aiight here we go:

*Note: to get the files, read my and crazy's posts.
**Note: Before trying anything, make a backup of ur current rom.

1) I copied VCMD_Script212.bts and Phone_Script212.bts to \Windows

2) Also Copied btwizardhfp.dll ,HfpControlPanel.dll ,Hfpui.exe to \Windows

3) Copied AudioGW.dll , BTAudioGW.dll to \Windows

4) Got BT_Init_Script212.bts off a firends device and copied it to \Windows (Grizzly, that's the file u need right??)

5) Imported the MS registry file. (Though it's meaningless,but what the hell??)

5)Imported the Windcomm registry file and done the following:

a) Resetted BT settings to defaults.
b) Did the registry hack that enables regular audio stream.
c) And lots of other settings but seem to do nothing.

As for starting the VoiceDial software by pressing the Headset's button, a friend of mine thinks its a .dll file and a script(or a reg hack) he's currently looking into that.

Anyways all the steps above where done either manually, or by adding them to the ExtROM.

@Everyone: i'm telling you again, the results may or maynot vary from rom to another (imate , xda , mda , spv, .....etc). It works but it's really useless, as it's not reliable at this time.

I wanted to write a complete tutorial that explains each step and its results, bit thanks to JGUI, i dont have time to write the whole thing again.. anyway i think the steps are clear and understandable...plz guys try them and post your results...the more ppl that try, the better.

afs84

Hi every one,
To all those who are putting lot of efforts,,,just wanted to give a clue...
I don't know if u guys have Caller tones from yr service provider...this means that one listens to a song instead of "tring tring".

So when I dial any of my friends who have activated this service, I can very well listed to the songs played...

This can give some clue to make things happen.

I have no idea what u mean...can u explain again plz?.

I know you are close to a solution this way, but I would like to try and sugest an alternate metod:
PDA2K (and other HTCs) transfers audio to BT only when there's a call, when there's an open line to PHONE MODE. So instead of trying to bring audio tranfer out of PHONE MODE to NORMAL MODE, why not make the program to "fake dial" and receive the voice command in a "fake call". Like it would try to dial a number just to open the PHONE MODE and then receive the audio from the BTs mic.
Like, when I dial "voice mail" for example,when in call, the mic on BT would be captured to the Voice Dialing program. This doesn't seems impossible, because we can record a call in a press of a button allready. So, instead of recording to a file that we can listen, it would record to a temp file that the voice dialing program would listen as a voice command. This way we would only use the resouces readly available on our hardware.
Is this possible?
Hope I waz able to make myself clear.
byMaC

You know, after thinking about it and doing some reading, it actually might be possible...i'll dig more into that and keep u posted.


hi , i am using i-mate[xda 2 ] running buzzmobile wm2005.
will this work with my pda.
and will it work with any other headset like jabra 330 or
motorola 850.

thanks for ur help.......

I have'nt tried withi wm5, and dont think it does work, as wm5 uses the buggy MS stack...although i heard it's bette than the stack that comes with the XDAII and XDAmini....maybe it already works under wm5. have u tried it?

and if it works with one headset, it should work with all others.

helix139
09-07-2005, 04:15 PM
I also need BT_Init_Script212.bts. ccrrazzzy or afs, would you mind posting it?

thesorceor
10-07-2005, 12:57 AM
b) Did the registry hack that enables regular audio stream.

What does it mean ? i didn't found any information about that in the previous posts here ?

Thanks in advance

The Sorceor

Swifty
10-07-2005, 07:08 PM
Would like to try and help out with this but need one of you guys to post a copy of BT_Init_Script212.bts as I'm stuck at this point at the moment.

Cheers

Grizzly
10-07-2005, 10:47 PM
Bat news. It is not possible to copy the file. It is visible with Resco explorer but copy is not possible. it is a windows protection ? :cry:

helix139
10-07-2005, 11:29 PM
grizzly, the only thoughts i could have are if it is in Rom, in which case it might be that you can unlock your Rom and copy it, or it might be archived, in which case you can try unchecking the box. have you tried it both through your desktop and directly through your device? Also, it may be possible to rename it to a .bak file and then copy it and then rename it back.

Swifty
13-07-2005, 11:39 AM
No one can get us this file ? :(
It doesn't appear that we can get any further without this.. so unable to give any help at the moment

afs84
13-07-2005, 03:29 PM
aiight guys, will post an archive with all necessary files in a cpl of hours...dont have access to my pc now....will post soon.

ccrrazzzy
18-07-2005, 01:04 AM
Sowy.. Been on Vacation.

helix139
18-07-2005, 02:50 AM
well I tried the procedure and only managed to get my XV6600 to open bluetooth whenever there is a sound made, however audio still came through on the device, not the bluetooth headset. I'm gonna do some experimenting though. I'm running the 2.03 ROM, 1.36 ext ROM, and BT stack 3900B

Swifty
18-07-2005, 09:37 AM
I had a quick try last night and when I'd imported the widcomm registry and copied over the last file I got a "Bluetooth Expired" message when enabling it.. I'm using the BT3900 stack on the 1.40 rom

helix139
21-07-2005, 10:02 PM
asf,

Did you have the A2DP Stereo headset patch on your bluetooth stack when you got this patch to work successfully? Any other applications or perhaps remnants of voice signal that may be responsible for your success? I'm going to hard reset and try again tonight with both the 3500 and 3900 stacks on my XV6600. Also, could you please post a complete archive with the files that you used in your successful attempt so that I can be sure I am using the same ones? If you have time, can you also explain the function of each of the files with respect to the patch, i.e. which one initiates bluetooth upon audio, which one(s) are responsible for the actual transfer of the audio stream over to the headset, etc. Thanks

afs84
21-07-2005, 11:17 PM
hey everyone

I know its been a while, but i'm going another way around this time.

All of u know that the new HP mobile messenger has a new stack (1.7 build 2000) will try and extract it and port it to BA, as it does support bt dialling.

For now, keep trying with the above method...use the files i mentioned in my last post, and download them from carzy's posts.

PM me for help

afs84
21-07-2005, 11:19 PM
hey everyone

I know its been a while, but i'm going another way around this time.

All of u know that the new HP mobile messenger has a new stack (1.7 build 2000) will try and extract it and port it to BA, as it does support bt dialling.

For now, keep trying with the above method...use the files i mentioned in my last post, and download them from carzy's posts.

PM me for help

efjay
22-07-2005, 01:58 AM
hey everyone

I know its been a while, but i'm going another way around this time.

All of u know that the new HP mobile messenger has a new stack (1.7 build 2000) will try and extract it and port it to BA, as it does support bt dialling.

For now, keep trying with the above method...use the files i mentioned in my last post, and download them from carzy's posts.

PM me for help

Are you sure about voice dialling? The mobile-review.com review actually mentions it doesnt support voice-dialling. http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/hp-ipaq-hw6515-en.shtml

helix139
22-07-2005, 06:23 AM
Still no luck. Tried from a hard reset and only installed resco for the registry keys and the BT 3900 stack and the result was the bluetooth light blinking but the icon in the lower right showing bluetooth off. I attempted to tap on the icon with the stylus but it wouldnt even bring up the menu. I also tried to get to the bluetooth controls through the settings menu/connections tab but again no luck. Bluetooth settings would not open, and with no popup menu in the lower right from the bluetooth icon, that means no bluetooth manager either. I believe I'll be giving up for now.

docc
24-07-2005, 12:58 AM
asf84,

Can u please post the HP 6515 BT cab file here so that we can try it out too. Appreciate the help.

helix139
31-07-2005, 05:10 PM
Superdave over in the i730 forums on pdaphonehome.com has managed to accomplish what we want to accomplish on the i730 through a simple 2 part hack. The first part of his hack gets voice command to work by pressing the button on the bluetooth headset by replacing the voicesignallauncher.exe file for voice signal that comes on the i730 with the voicecmd.exe file for voice command, renamed to voicesignallauncher.exe. The second part of his hack is an app that sends standard audio over to the headset, which I don't know will work for us. Perhaps the first part of his hack could be useful to us? If we were to install voice signal and replace the exe files, perhaps voice command would work over bluetooth? Combine that with afs' hack to get bluetooth to activate over standard audio and maybe even superdave's app and we might be in business. Anyone want to give it a shot?

xda
07-08-2005, 09:24 AM
Do we have a definative method to make voice dialing over a bluetooth device, using voicesignal on the XV6600??

the samsung i730 has this working out of the box.

chrisamydang
11-08-2005, 07:22 AM
afs84 refers to a hack that enables regular audio stream...

I did a search on Google and can only find a hack relevant to HP PDAs.

My PocketPC doesn't have the same registry keys so I assume that's not the correct hack...

So what is the correct hack and how do you do it?

thesorcerer asked the same question but no-one seems to have an answer...

where's afs84? :(

helix139
11-08-2005, 03:09 PM
HKLM\Software\Widcomm\Plugin\Handsfree

Change AudioPreferences to (3)
Change AudioHandling to (19)
Make sure SupportedFeatures is (55)

What did this change?

Go to Bluetooth Settings, Services, Hands Free, and hit the Advanced button. Notice the whole new checkbox called "Standard Audio" and paragraph about playing music, notifications, etc. on your headset

SSafonov
11-08-2005, 08:48 PM
Hi all!
I know some this thread is for Himalaya and some features might not work on BlueAngel. There was similar BA specific thread regarding the same hands free problem in BA, however it merged into hymalaya one.

So i tried what helix139 has suggested on my PDA2K. New option has appiared as specified but no any sound comes to hands free.

Does anyone having BlueAngel achieved anyother results?

Thanks,
Serge
BA PDA2K
ROM 1.40.150
RADIO 1.12

helix139
11-08-2005, 08:51 PM
read the whole thread and try what afs suggests on your pda2k

wamatt
31-08-2005, 12:38 AM
Can anyone actually confirm if they have got it working on the PDA2k (BlueAngel)?

helix139
31-08-2005, 12:40 AM
afs84 is the only person i know of that managed to get it working on the pda2k...I can confirm it causes nothing but problems on the harrier

ionsphere
12-11-2005, 03:36 PM
On my PDA2k I found that the headset button just calls 'makephonecall.exe' in the windows directory. I cannot find any reference to this in the reg, so I'm guessing its hardcoded somewhere.

My solution atm is just to replace makephonecall.exe with my voicedailing exe...not ideal...looking into making an exe that will read a reg entry that details the location of the file to execute.

Going to try the regular audio and mic via bluetooth thing now - just doing a ram backup (!) - will report back soon !

helix139
12-11-2005, 10:22 PM
So basically what we need is to replace makephonecall.exe with a different makephonecall.exe. This exe would detect a bluetooth headset button press and run the the voice command app. In all other instances, though (including after the voice command app is activated), it would have to function like the normal makephonecall.exe. Maybe someone could decompile makephonecall.exe and add this feature to it?

ionsphere
13-11-2005, 12:11 AM
maybe not....as far as I can see it is only used when the button is pressed on a bluetooth headset.

I've replaced my exe and not found any other change with other apps / dialing etc.

ChiLLed
16-03-2006, 03:42 PM
ccrrazzzy (Jun27 2005): "After he gets that done, getting the BT device to have an application mapped to it when it starts the audio transfer, should be No problem." :D

Hi guys,

I've just purchased a bluespoon AX2 for use with my XDA2i (alpine). It works great, audio transfers fine but I still can't get a voice dial program to launch when the headset's talk button is pressed.

I have searched this forum loads, tried looking on my device for an .exe that gets launched or reg setting that gets loaded... still no luck yet :cry:

I'm sure this must be possible? When I press the talk button my Alpine wakes up, transfers the audio to the headset... all it needs to do is load an app as well. I won't give up, it's soooo anoying tho :evil:

dttsou
20-03-2006, 12:18 AM
ccrrazzzy (Jun27 2005): "After he gets that done, getting the BT device to have an application mapped to it when it starts the audio transfer, should be No problem." :D

Hi guys,

I've just purchased a bluespoon AX2 for use with my XDA2i (alpine). It works great, audio transfers fine but I still can't get a voice dial program to launch when the headset's talk button is pressed.

I have searched this forum loads, tried looking on my device for an .exe that gets launched or reg setting that gets loaded... still no luck yet :cry:

I'm sure this must be possible? When I press the talk button my Alpine wakes up, transfers the audio to the headset... all it needs to do is load an app as well. I won't give up, it's soooo anoying tho :evil:

Got any answers to this?? Reading the thread just confused me! All I want to do is to activate the voice dial program when the headset's talk button is pressed.

zenkinz
16-07-2006, 05:21 PM
anybody manage to get some breakthrough here?

i tried putting the bluetooth voicecmd script it doesn't seem to trigger any voice command application despite i am on widcom 1.7.

i can intiate audio streaming though. just can't activate program in the ppc phone.

any help?