Yet another proof about WM5 on Blue Angel

[KTamas]

From Dale Coffing (mobilePASSION):

"I have been running Windows Mobile 5 as a development platform on a BlueAngel device (the MDA3) so it kind of spoiling me to not have some of the advanced features on the i730.

-Dale Coffing"

http://dalecoffing.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/06/first_look_sams.html
(at the comments)

[TheLastOne]

What these companies are doing is DIRTY.

They clearly have the potential to release the new OS for almost ALL modern pocket PCs, but since they don't see any profit in it, they will never release it.

I could accept this, IF they stopped dangling the OS on Blue Angels for all of us to see.

[icohen2005]

after you make us so hungry for this wm5 on ba could you help us to get it
why all the secret

[KTamas]

What about a petition that we ARE even willing to pay for an BA WM5 upgrade?...

[TheLastOne]

They can't charge enough for a WM2005 upgrade that would be better for them than forcing us to buy new phones.

They won't do it.

[zohaer21]

id be willing to pay 100 us dollars for an upgrade to each of my BA and Alpine..

[TheLastOne]

So would I actually, but it doesn't compare to the $1000 dollars they will likely get from us all techno-nuts who very well may indeed upgrade.

[vbguru613]

im emaling him for the rom

[TheLastOne]

He obviously won't give it out readily. Microsoft entrusted it to him. Anyone on their A-list would be stupid to do anything to break that trust.

[vbguru613]

im desperate

[zohaer21]

maybe someone can dump the rom without his knowledge using the sd card rom dumper... that wod be cool..and he wont be breaking any VOWS to microsoft either....

[Abducted]

Maybe he could "accedentally" get hacked. :twisted:

[hal]

What about a petition that we ARE even willing to pay for an BA WM5 upgrade?...

I have an Ipaq 5550. The same happened with HP when wm2k3SE came out. Petitions, news coverage and all. HP prefered the short term view of selling more devices rather than cultivating customer loyalty.

That was my first and last Ipaq. I have Himalaya and BA now...

Just think of the risk/benefit ratio for MS...
We know that ASA official wm2k5 would be released for BA & Himalaya , it would be made largely available by third party means...

I'm not bringing "morality" issues in the plate here. I just say that business-wise, the effort to put that in place compared to the benefits is pretty low... Especially if you compare that to the benefits of a "no-release" scenario: you will ALWAYS end-up paying for the license when you feel BA/Himalaya and all the rest becomes obsolete and you will replace your HW. 3G is not so far away, is it? 3G + BT + 802.11A/G is not so far away either...
Nobody likes it. I don't like it. But in the end, that's the most likely.
As they say: hope for the best, expect the worse!


My 2 "unfortunate" cents,

Hal.

PS: That's why Buzz, toenailed, TheLastOne, XDAjojo, MDAIIIUser and all others efforts as so invaluable!!! Keep the good work: you know how much it is being appreciated by the rest of us.

[joey jojo]

id be willing to pay 100 us dollars for an upgrade to each of my BA and Alpine..
you are bonkers...........

So would I actually.

and so are you.......... i would never pay for WM2005, as good as it looks, if/when it comes out, ill just get it for free @ XDAdevelopers, lol

[zohaer21]

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how would you do that?? unless its released for BA and jam and xda2i ..you cant just make it work on other devices.. take example from the himalaya rom we have unless you have himalaya you cant use it..
thus.. if its never ever released for other htc models you can NEVER EVER get it for other devices... reason being a simple one.. different hardware,different memory allocation and management and different bootloaders etc..
if you dont believe me just try flashing your device with the win2k5 rom and end up with a very expensive paperweight ...

[TheLastOne]

Honestly, I have no problem supporting and paying for proper service and upgrades. As well as the work Microsoft put into the development of the new OS, which from what I've heard, is a significant positive step.

I guess part of the reason that they aren't releasing it, even at cost, is exactly in response to people like you, joey jojo, who would just pirate it instead of paying. The way I figure it, alot of people with these expensive fancy devices know their way around technology, and a significant part will know how to get WM2005 for free, avoiding the costs.

Providing an OS upgrade for these devices at a cost would never work. These companies aren't exactly stupid.

[ejdmoo]

I think it isn't meant to be released at all yet, really.

I think the "release" was to developers first, and soon enough you will see a hoarde of new devices, as well as a new ROM for ours.

Here's another proof, by the way:
http://blogs.technet.com/exchange/archive/2005/06/06/405993.aspx

The head of the MS Exchange team uses a Blue Angel...with Exchange SP2. To get full functionality, I guarantee he is running SP2.

They aren't using the BA as a development platform only to dump it. They are just waiting til key things (like Exchange SP2) come into place.

[sub_rosa25]

id be willing to pay 100 us dollars for an upgrade to each of my BA and Alpine..
you are bonkers...........

So would I actually.

and so are you.......... i would never pay for WM2005, as good as it looks, if/when it comes out, ill just get it for free @ XDAdevelopers, lol

All of you crazy. WM5 is code for wiping virtual asses...

[KTamas]

I promote sub_rosa25's post to the "post of the year" award.

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