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citlee
30-06-2005, 03:57 PM
Hello all,

I have an XDA IIi from O2 UK, and I recently purchased a game called Quartz 2 from Elements Interactive BV (http://games.elements.nl); I bought two copies, one for my fiancee's P900 and one for my XDA IIi, as it has a multiplayer option that works over both TCP/IP and bluetooth. Or so they claim... I just could not get the game to play nicely with bluetooth, whenever I tried to join or host a game via bluetooth, it instantly failed, whereas it worked fine on the P900. So I emailed tech support to see what they had to say...

Unfortunately, Bluetooth isn't able to work properly on all windows
mobile devices.
This is because there are 2 "Bluetooth stacks" for windows mobile: one
of them is made by Microsoft and one of them is made by Broadcom. It
depends on the device which one is installed (only one of them can be
installed at the same time which is done by the manufacturer of your
product). Because of some licensing issues, we're only able to support
one of the stacks.

Your windows mobile device probably uses the Broadcom stack, the one
that isn't supported by the game. We're sorry to say this, but there
isn't much we can do about this (unless Broadcom change their licensing
terms). Your UIQ device however, is able to work properly because
Symbian doesn't have these issues.

I hope this clears it all up. If there are more questions, please let me
know.

My XDA IIi runs (according to the Bluetooth Settings/control panel) BT-PPC/PE Version 1.0.0 Build 3900, with the copyright notice belonging to Broadcom. Doh!

So, questions:
Is there any way to run the Microsoft bluetooth stack on the XDA IIi? If so, are there any problems created by doing so?
Does anybody know what the "licensing issues" are? I have emailed them to ask but had no reply as of yet.
And this may seem like a silly question, but the XDA IIi *is* an Alpine (which is an updated Himalaya?), right? Are the XDA III and XDA IIi distinct models? The HTC_Blueangel (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel) wiki page mentions a German XDA III, and the forum index mentions an XDA III in the Blue Angel forum description. I just want to be clear on this :)

In case it's any use, the Device Information control panel contains the following.
ROM version: 1.10.00 WWE
ROM date: 12/24/04
Radio version: 1.00.00
Protocol version: 1337.39 (my protocol is elite!)
ExtROM version: 1.10.124 WWE
Model No.: PH10C

Are there any updates I'm missing/should have installed?

Thanks!

kevinnugent
01-07-2005, 06:38 AM
No-one's replied as yet I see, so I'll be the bearer of bad news, citlee. You have the most up-to-date BT stack and ROM. Hopefully, we'll be getting a ROM update soon, but don't expect it to change from Broadcom anytime soon.

As far as naming's go, yes it's called an Alpine (even though xda-developers seem to want to call it a Andes). I don't think you can run a MS BT stack on your device either.

Sorry to be the one to tell you..,. :)

Kevin

citlee
01-07-2005, 04:30 PM
Oh ... ... bugger :)

Thanks for replying, at least now I know I don't have to go hunting for updates and stuff.

So the device is an Alpine, but here it's referred to as an Andes, which is an updated Himalaya? How is it different from the Himalaya? Will software (on this site, that is, not in general, for doing things end users aren't supposed to) for the XDA II/Himalaya work on this device?

Also, do you have any idea if Windows Mobile 2005 will function on this device? Of course, prior to installing it, it wouldn't be a bad idea to see what the differences/(dis)advantages of 2005 over 2003SE are...

JorgeGZC
02-07-2005, 04:03 AM
I'm sorry to tell you this but, Windows Mobile 2005 will not work on the XDAIIi, the upgrade of windows mobile was designed to work only with the ROM version of the himalaya. the ROM that the new XDA IIi has is different, so there is no upgrade for it now, I have one XDA IIi also, but do not worry about it becuase it will just take some time untill microsoft will force all the PDA companies to include its upgrade on their devices, it's been always like this.
Regards,
Jorge