Video Camera and Chat?

[Truthiswithin]

I remember hearing that the video camera on the Universal might not be useable for Internet conferencing. Does anyone know if this is correct? Sorry if this is a silly question, but what exactly CAN it be used for?

[Rudegar]

the whole bell and whistles of 3G or UTMS if you want
was that you could do video phoning
so that would be the purpos of the cam i guess
it's also mentioned in the o2 sales pdf which i thing
was removed because o2 (or was it tmobile) got upset
because their internal doc's ended up here

[macsoft]

er.. Universal does NOT have 3G. sorry.

[BoSJo]

er.. Universal does NOT have 3G. sorry.

ohhh yes, it got 3G (UMTS)
It's the first PPC announced with 3G ever :wink:

[Rudegar]

thats what makes it tasty
no more SLOOOOOOOOW gprs
data speeds

[Truthiswithin]

So what about internet conferencing? Will that be possible? I assume that would require some MSN-like software, or would there be a way to send video via the internet?

[Rudegar]

if the applications were made and the camera supported it's really very early to say anything for surden

all we have right now is

you hearing that it will not work

try asking you where you heard it ;) :P

[akira]

no no no

it will be like this


you sit on yer chair with wifi on
and you voice and video chat through msn messenger on yer xda 4

[Rudegar]

huh?
and why would it be over wifi and not utms ?
i mean apart from the fact that wifi would be cheaper
but not as available as utms

[Truthiswithin]

if the applications were made and the camera supported it's really very early to say anything for surden

all we have right now is

you hearing that it will not work

try asking you where you heard it ;) :P

I hope no one asks me where I heard it... :oops: too much information, brain too small :shock:

Dale Coffing says some things about the video conferencing at http://dalecoffing.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/06/first_impressio.html

Why does he say that he needed a SIM card to check the video conferencing?

[BoSJo]

If it can't do both it's kind of like saying that you can only store images on device, not on SD.
I could never in my wildest dreams belive that they would implement this and then not make it avalible for the Wifi connection, or any current connection at all other than 3G.

[Tekguru]

Yes it is 3G, and yes it supports video calls.

Waiting on my 3G SIM card at the moment to test......

[BoSJo]

Waiting on my 3G SIM card at the moment to test......

So you have one there right now?
Whats the FCC ID printed on the label of your device??

[Truthiswithin]

I guess what I am trying to ask is whether I can use the Universal to send video via the Internet to a computer using a program like MSN Messenger or Netmeeting? Is there software included that does this, or is it just a matter of waiting and hoping that someone will make a program that does it?

Alternatively, would it be possible to post the video to a website?

I understand that it may be too early to tell, maybe TechGuru can let us know?

Thanks.

[Tekguru]

May I ask why you want the FCC ID?

I can't really say more than I have already guys, under very tight NDA with O2.

Just keep your eyes peeled on Tekguru! :)

[BoSJo]

May I ask why you want the FCC ID?

To check the FCC website for any info.
Can't find anything there on the Universal, so either it's more confidential than other HTC devices,
It's under a different FCC granteecode which could be that HTC is spreading risk/sales into different sub companies or they have used a sub contracter to build the Universal,
The data wont be avaliable before launch date (which it is for other devices??)

[xda_dev]

It wont have video conferencing. It will be able to do Video Messaging. There is a big difference. Video messageing you record a 10-15sec clip and send it. The person recieves this video clip, downloads it, and then plays it. Its not actually LIVE streaming though.

[Rudegar]

thats mms

the other 3g utms phones i've seen offer video phoning
not that good quality and the sound is not 100% synced but
they do offer it
dont see why the universal should not also offer this

[dgpurvis]

May I ask why you want the FCC ID?

To check the FCC website for any info.
Can't find anything there on the Universal, so either it's more confidential than other HTC devices,
It's under a different FCC granteecode which could be that HTC is spreading risk/sales into different sub companies or they have used a sub contracter to build the Universal,
The data wont be avaliable before launch date (which it is for other devices??)

The Universal is not on the FCC site under HTC or any other company. Easy to do as the FCC now allows companies to delay publishing of *any* details provided the device is not on sale before the info appears.

[dgpurvis]

It wont have video conferencing. It will be able to do Video Messaging. There is a big difference. Video messageing you record a 10-15sec clip and send it. The person recieves this video clip, downloads it, and then plays it. Its not actually LIVE streaming though.

It will do video calls though.

While I don't believe the next gen Mobile Messenger will support video conferencing directly, you can use Microsoft Portrait - http://research.microsoft.com/~jiangli/portrait/ - which does work with Messenger (and the buddy lists). It's also free.