Windows Mobile 5 on XDA IIi

[DAz999]

Hi, Does anyone know if there is an update to XDA IIi to Windows Mobile 5.0.

I know there is one for the Himalaya version of XDA.

I have spoken to 02 and they say that it is highly unlikely and would be releasing the XDA II Exec with WM2005. Any info would be gratefully received.

[bosjo]

Double post deleted.

And there is currently no WM 5 for that device.

[defroster]

Can't the admins just delete these threads and/or ban the thread starters? I mean how many times has this thread been posted, 200, 300?

[bosjo]

The thing is that that new people arrives every day.
New people don't know what we know, new people don't/can't consume all the content of this site that fast.
Banning new people won't do xda-dev any good.
Deleting the posts will only give us even more of these post :!:

So the best thing for those that feel irritated by it, just overlook them and move on :wink:

[MDAIIIUser]

Thread moved from mod. upgrade, unlock to Alpine

[DAz999]

Apologies to the anybody who is not happy with my post.

[felixx_do]

Don't worry about them!!!If you don't know,you have the right to ask!!!However,before that you should read some thread about the topic you want to know!!!
Cheers mate

[blueclue7]

I have been watching posts for two months, and still have not been able to understand "yes", "no" or "maybe soon...."

People talk Blueangel, da da da...

I want clear talk about XDA IIi or Alpine. Don't be jumping on people to review old threads when it is hard enough knowing which model people are actually referring to...

I too am interested in reading if anyone has recently tried a 2005 mod on XDA IIi (Alpine), and what problems they may have encountered.

[AlanJC]

blueclue7, the WM2005 ROM is not for the Alpine, it is for the Himalaya.

The hardware is totally different between the two devices, it will not work.

There is no WM2005 build for the Alpine yet, maybe never, we don't know yet.

The Alpine has WM2003se, and so far, that is all there is.

WM2003 exists for the Alpine in 2 main versions so far, both have bugs. Most of these bugs would probably be solved by WM2005, but guess what, there isn't a WM2005 build yet.

Oh, by the way, WM2005 for the Himilaya won't work on the Alpine, just as it won't work on the Blue Angel, or the Magician, or any other PPC other than the Himalaya.

[andypa1]

hi guys u have just bought an xda2i off ebay. I am regretting it before it has arrived due to the lushness of wm2005 and you guys saying it wont be coming to xda2i. How come its coming to the older xda2 arghhh. I may have to make them program an update at gunpoint.

[seattleboi1982]

if you want i can trade you my MDAII? heheh :lol:

[DAz999]

It will be interesting when they release the Universal with WM2005, as it is technically the XDAIIi is similar. So hopefully it will be just a matter of time before someone reverse engineers the Universal Rom for XDAIIi.

Unless of course the 02/I-Mate/Qtek etc do the sensible thing and release an offical upgrade.

I don't see how Microsoft and PDA makers can whine about priacy, when people have spent good money for a new release PDA, only to be told it has the old software and even though it is capable of accepting the WM2005 upgrade....easily, we won't do it cause we don't think our customers are that important, welcome to the money grabbing world of Microsoft and many others.

I hope Microsoft and PDA people read this and learn!!!!

[DAz999]

It will be interesting when they release the Universal with WM2005, as it is technically the XDAIIi is similar. So hopefully it will be just a matter of time before someone reverse engineers the Universal Rom for XDAIIi.

Unless of course the 02/I-Mate/Qtek etc do the sensible thing and release an offical upgrade.

I don't see how Microsoft and PDA makers can whine about priacy, when people have spent good money for a new release PDA, only to be told it has the old software and even though it is capable of accepting the WM2005 upgrade....easily, we won't do it cause we don't think our customers are that important, welcome to the money grabbing world of Microsoft and many others.

I hope Microsoft and PDA people read this and learn!!!!

[cornelius]

Hello, there is some good news from our friend at blue angel forum, some one from that forum asked his frien if there's any update WM5 for Blue Angel, and his friend (who is HTC rep) said "YES!!!" :shock:
I read that post three times, ( i wondering if my english is really bad or there will be update for HTC Blue Angle ) Here's the link :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=147760#147760
and for me that is "good" new ( May be a bit, but better than nothing), there is a hope they also make up date for HTC Alpine because it's younger :? . Yah... just hope....

or some one will give the WM5 Himalaya cooker a new HTC Alpine????
I'm sure he'll make that (WM5) work on HTC Alpine... :lol:

[andypa1]

should we start a petition?

[vdhth]

why not ?

[cornelius]

hey... good idea... :idea:

[cornelius]

Hei XDA IIi lovers, i got some ( I think good news ), i post some email to O2 asia asking if they will release WM5 for IIi and their answer :
"There are no firm plans as yet to offer this particular upgrade to customers of existing Xda devices" :(
But.... don't stop there ......., after that they wrote :
"but we are studying market demand for this platform, and we will certainly consider offering it in the future if there are sufficient requests for it from our customers" :shock:
Do you all get it???
they just need to know if there's sufficient request...
I guest i've start my petition.... How about we all start to petition right now.... :lol: :D :lol:

[Danny-B-]

hehe i wont hold my breath but i might aswell put my name down for the petition.


----------------------
Danny-B-

O2 (UK) customer

Gimmie WM2005 NOW !!!
---------------------

[steverae]

Okay, lets finish this thread now, Here are the FACTS !!

WM2005 IS NOT RELEASED YET

The Himalaya build is a internal release by microsoft which was leaked to the world and then modified by our good friends buzz Lightyear and co. This build was specially written for microsoft employees on the wm2005 program as the majority of them have himalaya devices.

This new OS will be released officially on the next generation of XDA devices which will probably incorparate 3G technology as well.

So NO The current WM2005 builds that are doing the rounds WILL NEVER be available for other platforms as the hard ware is completely different from platform to platform.

All you can hope for is that

a) It is officially released for your device then modified like Wm2003SE for Himalaya.

b) Some one will swap you there XDA II device.

c) Get a copy of Wisbar Advance and skin it to look like Magento (This actually looks more polished than the actual WM2005 in my opinion.

I personally have a M1000, Orange version of the XDA II which i upgraded to WM2003SE after 3 days of it arriving, then upgraded to WM2005 1.60b which i am now running..... it's the best phone/thing i've ever had.....plus i got it cheap thanks to a price mistake on Orange's website :)

[buzz_lightyear]

so, steve, should I lock this thread at this point?

buzz

[Danny-B-]

If you read the last few posts ... we are not asking if WM2005 is available yet.

There are still some people asking this yes BUT 90% are fully aware that there is NOT a version out at the moment.

The possibility of a ROM being made for the XDAIIi is real (Although very unlikely) so let us live in hope.

If O2 or any other company who make the XDAIIi and devices of the same flavour, decide to release a ROM of WM2005 because we the customers harrass them enough, then i think its a job well done.

[buzz_lightyear]

If you read the last few posts ... we are not asking if WM2005 is available yet.

There are still some people asking this yes BUT 90% are fully aware that there is NOT a version out at the moment.

The possibility of a ROM being made for the XDAIIi is real (Although very unlikely) so let us live in hope.

If O2 or any other company who make the XDAIIi and devices of the same flavour, decide to release a ROM of WM2005 because we the customers harrass them enough, then i think its a job well done.

;o)))
hope dies last!
if you'll loose your hope, you'll never reach your goal...

I just thought, that steve meant his post as last dot here...

buzz

[Danny-B-]

Hehe i have hope :) ya gotta !

My reply was to steve as i think he only saw the first few posts and not the latter ones.

You kinda snuck your post in when i was writting mine :P
If / When we do ever get WM2005 i hope we'll have people like yourself working on it too. Great work you do for the XDA2 device.

[cornelius]

actually i'm totally confused???
Here full email from their costumer representative :

Dear Cornelius,

Thank you for choosing O2!


With regard to your query below, please note that O2 Asia is always committed to bringing to market innovative mobile devices incorporating the latest technologies. This includes the newly released Windows Mobile 2005 platform. We will be introducing products in the near future that will capitalise on the power ful features of this operating system to deliver practical benefits to customers like yourself, and shall announce these products in due time over over the course of this year and the next.


There are no firm plans as yet to offer this particular upgrade to customers of existing Xda devices, but we are studying market demand for this platform, and we will certainly consider offering it in the future if there are sufficient requests for it from our customers. Hope the above information is useful for you. Thank you.

Warmest Regard,
Josherine Toh
O2 Technical Support
Asia Pacific Region
For full listing of retail outlets and information on the latest products information, please visit <http://www.seeo2.com/>


So, we are know there NO upgrade YET....
But also NOT WRONG if we send them message let they know if we want it.... Because they study market demand???
And hopefully people have tallent like you (Buzz) have a heart to help us... :?
That's all i think, i'm want to ask for apologize if my hope anoying you all..... i'm sorry........... :(

[Danny-B-]

Heres a quick online petition i put together

http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/WM2005-XDAIIi

Please sign up we'll see if we can get O2 to work on our device :)





@Admin if there's any problems with this at all, please contact me and ill remove it.

[cornelius]

Danny-B-
Thanks for start.

[steverae]

Danny -B-

My reply was to steve as i think he only saw the first few posts and not the latter ones.

I did kinda get the drift of the thread from the first few posts thenkinda went off on one as i have seen the "Will WM5 be out for my phone" posts so many times.....

Appologies to anyone who took mt previous post the wrong way, I just had to explain the facts of how Himalaya got WM5 before anyone else....

anyway, i hope it does come out soon for alpine as they are a really cool device what with the built in wifi and all, they are like what the himalaya should have been... (really miss having wifi)

Good luck in your quest to get wm5.... i hope O2 come out for ya.

[burstin]

Danny-B let me congratulate you on starting this petition. I have been on a few other xda forums and there has been talk but no action. I have signed this petition and copied the link and pasted it on some of the other forums, hopefully we'll get a result from GREEDY O2. I have also written to O2 twice now and I'm trying to get an email address from them for their development team... surely someone at O2 must care!! We need to give them grief. I'd happily pay 40 or 50 pounds for this upgrade I think it looks great but I don't see why I should be expected to buy there new XDA Exec when they only sold me this XDA 2 months ago.... GITS!! I've told them I'm considering a move over to the HP Ipaq's at least they release software upgrades. I think if everyone emails them and tells them they're going to ditch the XDA devices they'll soon buck there ideas up!!

anyway... sorry about that... I'm pretty damn angry with O2

[Danny-B-]

Thanks for your support :)

Im just one of many XDA IIi users that feels the same way, we SHOULD have WM2005 its criminal not to upgrade us :P

Although i think it will still fall on deaf ears, as i have sent O2 an email already and have not had a reply, Suprise .... i think not.

Anyway .....
Petition stats

Signatures (First and Last Names)
Total number 252
Total number today 11
Total number within last week 67

[burstin]

I read on an asian xda forum that O2 asia sent a letter saying that they will monitor the market to see if there is much interest.

I did get one reply from O2DataSupport@O2.com it read:

Good Morning,

Thankyou for your email,

It is highly unlikely that O2 will provide an upgrade to Windows Mobile 2005 for the XDAIIi (none of our previous XDA devices have had an operating system upgrade).

Windows Mobile 2005 will be the operating system on the XDA Exec when that is released later this year,

Please do not hesitate to contact us if further assistance is required,

Regards

Binder

O2 Data Support


Anyway lets hope your petition works :-)

[S1MB4D]

what i sthe point of us buying the "latest and greates" phones each time a new one comes out and then the companies in charge decide they will upgrade the older version just to annoy us! i say enuff is enuff they should upgrade all phones the same if it be xda1 or xda2i they should all get the same upgrades!

WHAT DO WE WANT?
WM 2005 ON XDA2I

WHEN DO WE WANT IT?
NOW!

[DAz999]

Useful link, espcially for UK 02 Alpine owners

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29013

[BryantI]

Hi On e-bay a guy is selling DVD's which he claims allows WM2005 to be instualed and works on XDAIIi's has any one tried it???

[DAz999]

are you sure? I searched EBAY and they only sell the ones for XDA II and XDA IIs which are of course available free. :cry:

[BryantI]

Hi take a look at this link

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/3-DVDs-14GB-Pocket-PC-Software-4-PDA-Unlock-XDA-2-2s-2i_W0QQitemZ5813084498QQcategoryZ69927QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem

[andy-c1]

it will probably work on the others but not the i

[BryantI]

I have e-mail him to ask as if so I might buy. I will let you know the feedback

[MaskedMarauder]

Hi take a look at this link

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/3-DVDs-14GB-Pocket-PC-Software-4-PDA-Unlock-XDA-2-2s-2i_W0QQitemZ5813084498QQcategoryZ69927QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem

Cool, DVDs full of pirate and otherwise copied software, if M$ gets wind of it his ass will be grass!

Dont be ripped off with other suppliers who have bought the DVD from me and repackaged it

lol at this, everything on his DVDs he has ripped off from elsewhere anyway!

[buzz_lightyear]

would be interesting to get his IP address and compare it with xdadev users... :o)
BTW it's pretty easy to get his IP...

buzz

[clustered]

huh! dont believe the seller.....by selling pirate cd's. i can get it here just cost 1.315 dollar which equal to 5 ringgit Malaysia.

if buzz say there got WM5 than I will believe.

Buzz...any news about WM5? dont mad at me if this question asked to you everyday. Waiting for WM5 makes me learn about patience......so....be patience :)

[buzz_lightyear]

Buzz...any news about WM5?

No, i don't have Alpine...

buzz

[bxlogic]

Hey, i found something about alpine out here, but i can't understand a thing coz i think it's in THAI language :(

http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41988

[DAz999]

Hey, i found something about alpine out here, but i can't understand a thing coz i think it's in THAI language :(

http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41988


Its just about the cooked WM2003SE ROM and loading a custom extended rom from SD card to extended ROM. Nothing about WM2005

[defroster]

as i mentioned in another post I made, I'm currently bidding on an XDA IIi on eBay which is apparently running wm 5.0 - the auction ends quite soon but I can't bid anymore than $760 (about $500USD) - wish me luck!


Obviously, if I win, I'll dump the ROM and upload it here.

[defroster]

sorry, false alarm, I've been watching this auction for 4 days and asked him THREE times if he was SURE it was a IIi and not a II and each time he was certain.

Now, 4 hours before the auction ends - he says, "oh, I just asked someone and they said it actually is a II, not a IIi"

Pfff, damn idjits..

[clustered]

defroster, you dont deserve to win because everybody know...there's no WM5 for Alpine yet.....

meanwhile i want to ask something from the expert......what advantage and disadvantage for Alpine to having WM5.

thanks

[jacky820]

defroster, you dont deserve to win because everybody know...there's no WM5 for Alpine yet.....

meanwhile i want to ask something from the expert......what advantage and disadvantage for Alpine to having WM5.

thanks

A stable phopne device and smooth outlook and pocket word, pocket excel....

[lamatao]

Buzz...any news about WM5?

No, i don't have Alpine...

buzz

hey buzz, what if we all donate , and use the donation to buy XDA IIi, and then we would ship it to you, so you can cook WM5, I think thats a good idea :D

[clustered]

its much better if we donate direct to him....he deserve to do anything that he want to....he's talent person....

[lamatao]

it is up to him, anyway he wants

[buzz_lightyear]

it is up to him, anyway he wants

up to me?? :o)))
lamatao, pls check your PM.

buzz

[skyman]

Hello I am a new member here. I have got a Qtek 2020i. I just voted to release WM5.0 .

[lamatao]

anybody who wants to donate to buzz, pm him for more information ! :wink:

[levgeny]

Do you have any updates about it ?

Thx,
Evgeny :)

Heres a quick online petition i put together

http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/WM2005-XDAIIi

Please sign up we'll see if we can get O2 to work on our device :)





@Admin if there's any problems with this at all, please contact me and ill remove it.

[DAz999]

I read somewhere else in the forum that the petition has now close, with 02 not replying (Not unusual the Customer Services can't answer intelligent questions, they're not allowed too!) when the petition was emailed to them.

:cry:

[clustered]

O2 had announced there will no WM5 for XDA 2i. the petition is so important for us only not them....they dont care about it......

what we can do now is donate as much as we can so that anyone talent like buzz can done it..... we all know that he can and we also know that he dont have Alpine device yet! hope soon!!

[DAz999]

** This post is null and void please see my posts further down**


**I donated to Buzz fund a while ago. I also posted on Buzz Alpine forum asking how he fund and others have asked was going, to date no answer from Buzz, so I wouldn't donate to Buzz Alpine Fund, until he confirms what is he current amount he has towards Alpine. As I'm not sure if he is using the donations for Alpine fund. :( **

[DAz999]

** This post is null and void please see my posts further down**


**I donated to Buzz fund a while ago. I also posted on Buzz Alpine forum asking how his Alpine fund was going, to date no answer from Buzz (Others have asked as well), so I wouldn't donate to Buzz Alpine Fund, until he confirms what is he current amount he has towards Alpine. :( **

DAz

[clustered]

danny,

i think we should ask buzz once again....there's no official WM5 for XDA IIi and not everyone expert to do it, i still hope buzz can do it...

he still dont have Alpine device????

[buzz_lightyear]

Hi all,
it is not that easy with Alpine... you cannot just take some other ROM (Hima) and adapt it to Alpine.
The ROM must be built from the scratch.
That's what i'm doing all the time. Trying to compile the ROM from the set of files.
It is not Alpine specific. Once this will be reality, we can do ROM for JAM, Alpine, etc...
The donation is at your own will. If you think, that i'm doing something good for you, then feel free to donate.
However i never collected that much donations to buy the Alpine. They don't sell it for 30 Euro.
So Daz999, if you want, i can send you you ** Euro back.
I hope i didn't force anyone to donate at buzzdev.

buzz

** sorry Daz, i cleared the amount from here.

[clustered]

hi,

thanks buzz for that reply, im really2 happy to hear. At least other people should know building ROM is not easy like A B C. Anyway thanks very much, I still trust on you!

[DAz999]

Hi all,
it is not that easy with Alpine... you cannot just take some other ROM (Hima) and adapt it to Alpine.
The ROM must be built from the scratch.
That's what i'm doing all the time. Trying to compile the ROM from the set of files.
It is not Alpine specific. Once this will be reality, we can do ROM for JAM, Alpine, etc...
The donation is at your own will. If you think, that i'm doing something good for you, then feel free to donate.
However i never collected that much donations to buy the Alpine. They don't sell it for 30 Euro.
So Daz999, if you want, i can send you you **** Euro back.
I hope i didn't force anyone to donate at buzzdev.

buzz


Hi Buzz,

Thanks for letting me know how the Alpine fund is going. Thats all I asked for in my original post on your forum. :( The reason I raised the issue is I have seen a few posts around about donating to the Alpine fund and in combination with your lack of reply and the many Internet frauds nowadays, I was concerned for anyone donating, not about my **** Euro donation. I don't have very much money myself so a public comment about my donation wasn't very nice, at least I have made the effort to donate unlike many who talk a good story but do not donate.

So to make things clear. I apologise if I caused you any offence with my comments. I appreciate all the effort you put in to your development work and will continue to support your exellent work. Thanks :D

DAz

[buzz_lightyear]

Hi Buzz,

Thanks for letting me know how the Alpine fund is going. Thats all I asked for in my original post on your forum. :( The reason I raised the issue is I have seen a few posts around about donating to the Alpine fund and in combination with your lack of reply and the many Internet frauds nowadays, I was concerned for anyone donating, not about my ** Euro donation. I don't have very much money myself so a public comment about my donation wasn't very nice, at least I have made the effort to donate unlike many who talk a good story but do not donate.

So to make things clear. I apologise if I caused you any offence with my comments. I appreciate all the effort you put in to your development work and will continue to support your exellent work. Thanks :D

DAz

Hi Daz,
i'm sorry as well, i didn't want to be offensive as well. I just said what i mean with my best intentions.
I cleared the amount in my previous post. So if you don't want it to be visible here, you can edit it in your post as well. However, all donations are visible on buzzdev as well.

THANX and sorry again
buzz

[DAz999]

Thanks for your reply Buzz :D I'm glad everythings cool. :lol:

[Baptist]

I also contacted 02 for news of upgrade and they infered that money is the problem. I was told to contact 02 and ask about XDA Exec and guided to a blog writen by a microsoft engineer that infirs cost is the underlying factor and that a charge may be made. there was not a definitive NO 2005 for Xda11i. I am now trying to find out if it is actually available but at a cost.

Can anyone assist with an answering machine prog for 2i. Surely with auto answer facility in 2003 and 2i vioce recording some software should be able to answer incoming calls if not available and record to the phone. think of the money saved by not ringing your supplier for messages.

keep up the good work everyone

from a newbee

[clustered]

last night I dream about someone had release WM5 for Alpine and Im very happy upgrading my device, suddenly my mother was screaming.....i woke up and realize I'm dreaming..... what a nice2 dream.....

hahah! I cant believe that I dream about WM5.

[buzz_lightyear]

last night I dream about someone had release WM5 for Alpine and Im very happy upgrading my device, suddenly my mother was screaming.....i woke up and realize I'm dreaming..... what a nice2 dream.....

hahah! I cant believe that I dream about WM5.

:o)))))

[jacky820]

Funny. I sold my IIi already.... :twisted: :twisted:

[clustered]

:o)))))

hahaha! dont you laugh at me hahahaha! i know is funny, every time i think about it, i will start laugh....hahahah....maybe one day, dream come true. hahahahahahah! buzz helpppp us!! hahahaha

[rhuie]

Would it help anyone that I got the dell x50v wm5 upgrade cd? I believe the rom bin might be encrypted but it'll be a good starting ground to see what files differ between this and the xdaII wm5 beta. no ppc phone code on the x50v of course.

[clustered]

buzz,

is that Himalaya device and Alpine device is totally different???? any help that can make WM5 for Alpine??? erm... Alpine also known as faster Himalaya (520 Mhz), 1.3mpix cam. but the cam is too bad.... :x

[buzz_lightyear]

buzz,

is that Himalaya device and Alpine device is totally different???? any help that can make WM5 for Alpine??? erm... Alpine also known as faster Himalaya (520 Mhz), 1.3mpix cam. but the cam is too bad.... :x
they have different CPUs so i would say they are different.

buzz

[ralbrow]

If WM5 were to be released for the XDA2i, what benefits do you believe could be gained?

I too would like to see the upgrade, but I fear that if an unofficial version was to be made available then it would be highly likely that several of the XDA2i's features would not work without further tweaking. These tweaks would need to be resolved by highly skilled programmers.

I also understand that the WM5 upgrades which are available were leaked directly from Microsoft and are not the result of any individual 'cracking the code'.

In the absence of commitment from the mobile network providers to put their hands in their pockets to come up with an official release, It may be better to wait a year or two and then upgrade your phone, and possibly WM6 might even be out by then! :wink:

[/code]

[buzz_lightyear]

I also understand that the WM5 upgrades which are available were leaked directly from Microsoft and are not the result of any individual 'cracking the code'.

well, to be exact, 1.50f with 24Mb program memory was leaked from MS.

i'm not afraid to say, that I tweaked it pretty far, up to 1.60c, which has 128mb memory, 31mb storage, is much faster etc...

well, the 'base' is of course MS release.

on the other side, we are now able to build 80% of the OS ROM image ourselves... which opens some possibilities as well...

just the time to do it is missing at the moment.

;o)))
buzz

[clustered]

dont let the master talk. hahahaha anyway I agree with you buzz!

Yesterday I go to my friend shop and realize that IIi price now chasing IIs. not much different. I ask him why, he said "People want WM5 and IIi dont have it". I was thinking to sell my IIi but now I'm over thinking and is all about the money......money money! hahaha

anyway thanks very much buzz, I learn damn much from you.

[skyhorse]

I heard rumors that there are Alpine (xda's IIi) being sold on e-bay with the WM5 installed.

perhaps it would be interesting to investigate?

sky

[clustered]

perhaps it would be interesting to investigate?

got any direct link to the item????

[clustered]

is that any idea about making donation to buy an Alpine device so that we can give it to someone that can done WM5 for Alpine..... seem like buzz the one hehehe because he's master of WM5....at least he also can play with the Alpine.....

Im upset with Alpine device.... some said Xda IIi crap......and useless camera.... the quality of image make me ignore about having a camera....

thanks....

[rhuie]

I don't trust that the ebay items listing is accurate. if wm5 is installed they are probably not referring to IIi.

That's been the case on one item i asked about.

Having said that i fell into the trap of buying the IIi from another buyer and expecting to see wm5 floating around.

at any rate. I'm trying to isolate some of the core files with the wm5 build that's out right now. Better off building our own romset than to hope for provider to make one.

[clustered]

yeah.....everybody know that there's no WM5 for Alpine, even extended rom unlocker still not available for Alpine.....

let see the Final Draw World Cup 2006.....yeahhhhh!!!!!!! :D

[j2innet]

dun u guys think that these is marketing strategy?
they are famous enough to ignore the "old bird"...
dun put too much hope on these, let it be. sad to say this.

[buzz_lightyear]

is that any idea about making donation to buy an Alpine device so that we can give it to someone that can done WM5 for Alpine..... seem like buzz the one hehehe because he's master of WM5....at least he also can play with the Alpine.....

Im upset with Alpine device.... some said Xda IIi crap......and useless camera.... the quality of image make me ignore about having a camera....

thanks....
hmm, as i'm looking further into this thing, it looks to me, that if we don;t have proper IPL for XDA2i, we will not be able to create WM5 for it...
:o((

buzz

[clustered]

sorry buzz, seem like everybody showing toe at you. anyway you're the father of WM5..... God bless you!

* at BUZZ we trust....

[buzz_lightyear]

...you're the father of WM5..... ....
hehe... i'm sure, i'm not... :o)))

but THANX :o)))
buzz

[j2innet]

dun u guys think that these is marketing strategy?
they are famous enough to ignore the "old bird"...
dun put too much hope on these, let it be. sad to say this.

buzz. i heard that u did a great job. keep up the good job.
in above quote, i meant the manufacturer. they will not let existing
user to upgrade their rom. business strategy to sell more phones come with wm5.

heard that not only taiwanese manufacturer is doing the pda now. korean company is actively create cool pda phone. dun let HTC dominate the pda market. otherwise, they will build upgrade constrains into ur PDAs.

[Seahorse]

I noticed that you have an XDA IIi - I'm guessing your an O2 customer! What actually got my attention was:

O2 XDA IIi (Alpine)
ROM Version: 1.11.00 WWE (01/27/05)
Radio version: 1.04.00
Protocol version: 1337.42
ExtROM version: 1.11.162

I re-flashed min usign the current ROM at the O2 site (http://www.my-xda.com/xda2i_soft.html). which is 1.11.169 (Extended ROM).

My O2 XDA IIi Settings/Device Information/Version lists:

ROM Version: 1.11.00 WWE
ROM Date: 01/27/05
Radio Version: 1.00.00
Protocal Version: 1337.39
ExtROM Version: 1.11.169 WWE

So why is your Protocol and Radio versions higher than mine? What are the differences, where did you get them, is it worth me bothering?

UPDATE:

OK, more reading found this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31630) which contains PUG's modified ROMs (ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Alpine/Modified%20XDA_IIi_Upgrade_v1.11.162_Radio_1.04.ra r) - 1.11.162 & Radio 1.04.

Applying this upgrade leaves my XDA IIi as:

ROM Version: 1.11.00 WWE
ROM Date: 01/27/05
Radio Version: 1.04.00
Protocal Version: 1337.42
ExtROM Version: 1.11.169 WWE

Which would appear to be the highest numbers available. I copied the Restore file from:

C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Application Data\Microsoft\ActiveSync\Profiles\Old Profile Name

to:

C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Application Data\Microsoft\ActiveSync\Profiles\New Profile Name.

There were a couple of files listed at the end that would not install & skipping them seems to have cause no issues. The bonus is I don't have to faff around re-installing my programmes, ringtones & so on.

Hopefully this will help others to do the same. :)

[Seahorse]

Wifi Still works fine, but GPRS is as dead as a doornail. Tried using a CAB files I found that had O2 GPGRS settings. They settings have taken, but trying to connect to internet using it fails with the old check your setting dialogue.

Where am I going wrong...?

[demiseh]

you know...joinin forces2create the whole MAGNETO OS for Alpine is possible.team-work.divin it all around. on Buzz's site i read bout flashin the Jasjar over to the alpine. that didnt work2well, but did theoretically open up 1 tiny lil door. its possible. so hardware wise i think mayb they're not that much different? this needs sb 2take a look into.

---> ps: last post above - i got no answer why gprs is down.cant help on that one:)

[worksofart]

buzz...god bless you, wm2005 will be amazing on our Alpine...take your time , we trusth you

[majdi]

after reasding all these replies to this thread, i was really surprised that it's not available yet.
the reason is that i already saw one of my friends and he has the alpine (imate pda2) and he has the wm5 on it, that was last october.
recently, another friend of mine who has an alpine also wanted to upgrade his to wm5, and he asked me to do it for him, that's why i came here to look for it (upon my first friend's advice, he told he got it from this forum).

i guess i have to go back to him and get a copy of it (it's gonna be a little hard since he lives a 1000km away from me), but i'll try to get it someway or another.

if i did get it, i'll try to post it here for eveyone to use it.

[nguyensonhm]

after reasding all these replies to this thread, i was really surprised that it's not available yet.
the reason is that i already saw one of my friends and he has the alpine (imate pda2) and he has the wm5 on it, that was last october.
recently, another friend of mine who has an alpine also wanted to upgrade his to wm5, and he asked me to do it for him, that's why i came here to look for it (upon my first friend's advice, he told he got it from this forum).

i guess i have to go back to him and get a copy of it (it's gonna be a little hard since he lives a 1000km away from me), but i'll try to get it someway or another.

if i did get it, i'll try to post it here for eveyone to use it.
Hey,
i 'm waiting for your imformation and sharing here.
Good luck.

[Joost39]

after reasding all these replies to this thread, i was really surprised that it's not available yet.
the reason is that i already saw one of my friends and he has the alpine (imate pda2) and he has the wm5 on it, that was last october.
recently, another friend of mine who has an alpine also wanted to upgrade his to wm5, and he asked me to do it for him, that's why i came here to look for it (upon my first friend's advice, he told he got it from this forum).

i guess i have to go back to him and get a copy of it (it's gonna be a little hard since he lives a 1000km away from me), but i'll try to get it someway or another.

if i did get it, i'll try to post it here for eveyone to use it.
Hey,
i 'm waiting for your imformation and sharing here.
Good luck.

Any news on the WM 2005?? Just wondering...I´ve just bought a Qtek 2020i.

[majdi]

hi everyone,
i'm so sorry to put you all in hope, but i'm afraid i have bad news, after talking to (whom i used to call friend) and after he agreed to send me the ROM image on a cd, yesterday i called him & he simply replied with a big NO.
he said he saw my post here and he's simply not welling to share it with anyone else, and he refused to give it to me.

i'm sorry again guys, i depended on a useless person.

[wing93]

hi everyone,
i'm so sorry to put you all in hope, but i'm afraid i have bad news, after talking to (whom i used to call friend) and after he agreed to send me the ROM image on a cd, yesterday i called him & he simply replied with a big NO.
he said he saw my post here and he's simply not welling to share it with anyone else, and he refused to give it to me.

i'm sorry again guys, i depended on a useless person.

Actually，I don't think it is ur mistake and it is not necessary to say sorry.
He is free to make decision.

Also I believe that there must not be only one person who know how to make wm5 for alpine. And there must be another person who can make it also.

[pug]

To be honest I don't think he ever had WM5 on his Alpine. There are no CE rom editors, extended rom unlockers, etc for it so what makes you think think one person would have done it? These tools need to be made available before other OS can be installed.

If people like Buzz, Itsme and Bal666 can't figure it out then.....

That's my belief anyway.....

[rhuie]

while fiddling around with the identification of the XDAIIi i found that the flash chip type was 28F256L18. google shows it's an intel flash (assuming i'm not mistaken by a similar model)

here's the specs

http://download.intel.com/design/flcomp/datashts/25190210.pdf

hopefully this will help someone. interesting info at appendix C "common flash interface"

I wish there was more meaningful documentation than this to actually reflash this darned XDA. <sigh>

[buzz_lightyear]

yeah...
but himalaya has 128K3 chip.

buzz

[JorgeGZC]

Hey, any news about WM5 for the alpine?

[clustered]

I think there'll no WM5 for Alpine......

[viewedit]

:( after going through all the mesgs, just one question, is any thing being done, is there any progress , i bought my xda IIi recently, thinking it can be upgraded.now i am regreting it, though i love it, i have already mailed o2 twice, second mail was a threatning one, i didnt get reply for that. they r lucky taiwan is far away from my country.

[KTamas]

:( after going through all the mesgs, just one question, is any thing being done, is there any progress , i bought my xda IIi recently, thinking it can be upgraded.now i am regreting it, though i love it, i have already mailed o2 twice, second mail was a threatning one, i didnt get reply for that. they r lucky taiwan is far away from my country.
Nothing so far. Unofficial WM5 verslons are only available for the Himalaya and Blue Angel devlces. There's no evidence that WM5 exists for Alpine either.

[buzz_lightyear]

hi Tamas,
do you actually have Alpine?

thanx
buzz

[KTamas]

hi Tamas,
do you actually have Alpine?

thanx
buzz
No :) I only have a Blue Angel.

[buzz_lightyear]

hi Tamas,
do you actually have Alpine?

thanx
buzz
No :) I only have a Blue Angel.
:o(

buzz

[clustered]

hope Linux will available soon for Alpine, no need to suffer waiting for WM5. Pray for it..... :D

[kkaalldd]

Hey, any news about WM5 for the Alpine :?:

[gnuzilla]

Heres a quick online petition i put together

http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/WM2005-XDAIIi

Please sign up we'll see if we can get O2 to work on our device :)





@Admin if there's any problems with this at all, please contact me and ill remove it.

No way to see how many signatures for this petition. How could an O2 agent can see it to make the change :(

[petest]

Just been reading a post about a wm5 upgrade for all orange devices

http://www.modaco.com/WM5_Update_for_ORANGE_Devices-t237035.html

Maybe this could help if the wm5 is released for the orange version of alpine

[netwizz]

i wasnt aware of an orange version of the alpine only the himalya, and blueangel, is there such a version, if so can someone tell me where to get the rom as i have now changed to their network and would like to get rid of the o2 crap and you orange software instead.

:D :D :D

[netwizz]

i wasnt aware of an orange version of the alpine only the himalya, and blueangel, is there such a version, if so can someone tell me where to get the rom as i have now changed to their network and would like to get rid of the o2 crap and you orange software instead.

:D :D :D

[fluffcat1]

i wasnt aware of an orange version of the alpine only the himalya, and blueangel, is there such a version, if so can someone tell me where to get the rom as i have now changed to their network and would like to get rid of the o2 crap and you orange software instead.

:D :D :D

They sell it as the m1500. Don't think there is a standalone rom update for it but Orange Switzerland had some updates a while back.

Richard

[Armarn]

:arrow: :?: ...no new news about WM5 on ALPINE? :roll:

[clustered]

need Alpine device for donation to buzz. Then we will got news :D

[Frosty Sheep]

I have seen copies of the Upgrade version of windows mobile 5 on ebay! Will they work with the Alpine??? if so im buying one :P:P:P

Thanks

[clustered]

I have seen copies of the Upgrade version of windows mobile 5 on ebay! Will they work with the Alpine??? if so im buying one :P:P:P

Thanks

best way to spend your money.

[wine2_98]

hi there,

i'm an new user on xda 2i.but i'm blur about alpine,himalaya n blue angel device.

currently i dl a wm5.0.but i cant upgrade to it.It show 'pls dl development tool b4 starting your upgrade.

how can i solve this problem?

thx for help.

[webpain]

Hey guys. I found:

XDAIIS WM5 ported from Wizard version 1.0 TuMa beta.rar

and

WM5 BA-TuMa v1.2.zip

on a site which stated that its for xda2s...

anyone heard of this?

[pug]

That's been around for a while now.

Must admit I'm not really that impressed with WM5. Just got a Universal and there are several things I don't like about it. The BT stack sucks, made my MS. It's slower than the 2i. No stability improvements. The Tomtom today plugin keeps dissappearing.

Might just need getting used to it???????

[PReDiToR]

That's been around for a while now.

Must admit I'm not really that impressed with WM5. Just got a Universal and there are several things I don't like about it. The BT stack sucks, made my MS. It's slower than the 2i. No stability improvements. The Tomtom today plugin keeps dissappearing.

Might just need getting used to it???????

I was hoping that some of the other shipped ROMs would have fixes in them for the crap bluetooth and other little niggles that make WM5 a dubious "upgrade" from WM2K3SE.

The form factor of the Universal is way better than the Alpine, but the Alpine beats it on OS/software.

[courierdave]

Here is an e-mail from o2 UK

"Hi David
Thank you for your e-mail.
We have no plans to release an upgrade operating system to WM 2005 for the devices which are carrying PPC 2003 O/S.
It may be possible to download via a third party, but this will invalidate warranty and support will be minimised to best endeavours basis.
Sorry we cannot assist you further.
If you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind regards
Brian
Customer Technical Support
O2-UK"

[wing93]

Here is an e-mail from o2 UK

"Hi David
Thank you for your e-mail.
We have no plans to release an upgrade operating system to WM 2005 for the devices which are carrying PPC 2003 O/S.
It may be possible to download via a third party, but this will invalidate warranty and support will be minimised to best endeavours basis.
Sorry we cannot assist you further.
If you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind regards
Brian
Customer Technical Support
O2-UK"

Please do not hesitate to contact us
WTF!!!

[andy-c1]

thats life i'm afraid ,they don't give a sh*t
although i've had tons of help from this website i might soon be upgrading to the mio 701 which i heard is a good peice of kit

[Server]

Let's give up. No WM 2005 for Alpine will be aviable.
Communicator is out of production and considered obsolete. So, soon will be no accu and further things be aviable.

[pythons]

Hello, any news about WM5 for the Alpine ?

[andy-c1]

Hello, any news about WM5 for the Alpine ?

i know this is your 1st post but plz plz read the thread first ,even if it just only the 1 above your post

[Uno Hu]

Is there a common understanding that there would be WM5 for the Alpine eventually but it is never gonna come from O2.....hopeful.

[clustered]

It will be available for Alpine one day..... but dont know when :lol: :lol:

[andy-c1]

thats why i am jumping off the band waggon as soon as i can afford the new mio701 ,it has everything i want in a pda and has wm5 :wink: :wink:

[Uno Hu]

How about the HP Rw6828 or the Lenovoi921. Many newer choices available. Oh hope the WM5 will be available soon. If not the O2i is really an Old 2i....hehe

[andy-c1]

How about the HP Rw6828 or the Lenovoi921. Many newer choices available. Oh hope the WM5 will be available soon. If not the O2i is really an Old 2i....hehe
it doen't have built in gps :(

[Uno Hu]

There is no GPS on the OLD 2i either, but the question is .... is the OLD 2i still a great (but bulky machine) with the 520mhz CPU which will be faster than the 400mhz that the newer machines come with.

[Server]

For everyone: use your 2020i while you can with wm 2003 se. Then migrate to WM 2006.... It will be here soon. :)

No WM5 for 2020i, this device is dead and discounted.

[Uno Hu]

You sure Server? You must be serious right.....somebody wanted the WM5 even it takes to be at gunpoint. You must not joke like that you know.

[kaantay]

I have also heard about Microsoft windows "PHOTON" to be released in 2007......I hope it will work with our XDAIIi............

Meanwhile an upgrade to WM5 is being released called "CROSSBOW"......
Light at the end of tunnel is still there I think..........

[Server]

I mean - buy a new WM 2006 device... :)

[Uno Hu]

I mean - buy a new WM 2006 device... :)
I thinl these pocket PC devices OS'es work very proprietry since WM5. Therefore any new develpoment will be very specific to each device.
Well still waiting.

[clustered]

yup! will waiting....

[cx]

I beg to disagree that WM5 will not be available for the PDA2/Alpine, while they can make it for the Himalaya which is an older model than the PDA2/Alpine hope buzzdev or pug would come up with this.

CALLING and PETITIONING Mr. Buzzdev and Mr. Pug please consider this. And continue your cult status here in XDA.

[cx]

Cheering for buzzdev to develop the WM2005 for Alpine.

Cheers... Cheers

[clustered]

We are talking damn much about WM2005 for 2i..... but we never talk about EXTENDED ROM unlocker for 2i....

what a shame for 2i without it too.... :lol:

[pietsukkel]

beg to disagree that WM5 will not be available for the PDA2/Alpine, while they can make it for the Himalaya which is an older model than the PDA2/Alpine

Well, WM5 wasn't really developped for the Himalaya...
A guy at Microsoft made it for a collegue who owned a 2020 and it somehow leaked to the internet...

[Armarn]

:arrow: ...and Finaly What about WM5 on ALPINE?

[saints5354]

My first post.....for Buzz,
Keep it up....

[saints5354]

Jus donated....

[EranY]

Jus donated....

i am willing to donate 100$ once i see wm5 available for alpine...

[cx]

ME 50$ GUARANTEED

Jus donated....

i am willing to donate 100$ once i see wm5 available for alpine...

[clustered]

I'll donate $50

Total - $200

[timoni]

-i donate $50.

[sweetvietguy81]

I also donate 50 usd :D, i think it should be sold on e-bay if it was developed successful by someone. . .

[buzz_lightyear]

Well, WM5 wasn't really developped for the Himalaya...
A guy at Microsoft made it for a collegue who owned a 2020 and it somehow leaked to the internet...
hi,
that is not true.
Microsoft used Himalaya as internal test platform for WM2005.
The ROM was available for MS employees through Internal Build System.
They released few ROM versions. I think 3 or so.
Lastly there was a build of Crossbow for Himalaya, which I didn't manage to get from them :o(((
Now it is over for Himalaya. that was the very last build.

Microsoft is now deciding, which device they'll pick for internal testing.

It'll be more than a miracle, if they gonna pickup 2020i.

buzz

[biogrei]

certo chese si riuscisse a mettere wm5 sul 2020i sarebbe una bomba!!!

[mohammedhus]

I'll Donate 50$ Garanteed

Total 300$

[astm1834]

Microsoft is now deciding, which device they'll pick for internal testing.

It'll be more than a miracle, if they gonna pickup 2020i.

buzz

We can guide them?can't we?..... http://qsmile.com/qsimages/294.gif

[biogrei]

speriamo di si,a quel punto altro che 9100 o s200

[naoki1980]

From the current information set, we can see that WM2005 might not be released on the XDA IIi after all, that is kinda pity. But lets just hope that software developers will still think about us WM2003 users and continue to develop softwares for our platform.

[saints5354]

Hi buzz_lightyear,

Any breakthru from you, hope to c u keep update all Alpine user here....thanks!

[frankrick]

From the current information set, we can see that WM2005 might not be released on the XDA IIi after all, that is kinda pity. But lets just hope that software developers will still think about us WM2003 users and continue to develop softwares for our platform.

Yep, that's the key

[alexanderuiz]

From the current information set, we can see that WM2005 might not be released on the XDA IIi after all, that is kinda pity. But lets just hope that software developers will still think about us WM2003 users and continue to develop softwares for our platform.

Yep, that's the key

or, we can hope that someone can come up with a hack to this thing so we can all enjoy wm5 on the alpine!

[swsjack]

i found WM5 for Blue Angel ( XDA IIs ) at http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56287

Is this a good news for upcomming WM5 Rom for XDA IIi ( Alpine ) from someone here soon ?

I waitting for it and still wait ...

[Ravenlord]

I also hope that someone will make a ROM with WM5 for the 2020i! 8)

I think that the 2020i is the best PocketPC device, as palm and for study/upgrade on this type of devices...

[Armarn]

no WM5 for Alpine :?:

or not to cherish hopes? :cry:

[Ravenlord]

There is a hope...but we don't say a lot. We are waiting...

[cornelius]

Why we are still waiting for WM5? I heard if the device that didn't set for WM5 but we install WM5 on it, it'll run slooowly...

Because it use different kind of memory... Wm2003SE still faster, even it will lose everything if the battery runs out.

Is it right? :?

[Ravenlord]

For now, there is WM5 only for 2020, not for 2020i, but it contain some bugs.
However, on 2020i, WM5 can run fast because it has 128MB of RAM and 128MB of ROM, while the new pocket pc have 64MB of ROM...

Wait wait... :)

[clustered]

For now, there is WM5 only for 2020, not for 2020i, but it contain some bugs.
However, on 2020i, WM5 can run fast because it has 128MB of RAM and 128MB of ROM, while the new pocket pc have 64MB of ROM...

Wait wait... :)

you're right! I'll wait too...

Wait Wait.... :)

[jeffkewin]

Are we still waiting for the WM5? 8)

[andy-c1]

if this waiting keeps up my xda2i will be falling apart and being held together with tape as ,i've had it for about +- 2 years now ,luckerly it's only been dropped once and that landed on my foot ,but it is starting to say i'm an oap now

[SHAHS]

PALS ...
HOW LONG WE VE TO WAIT ... ? ? ?
BUZZ, JOJO WHERE R YOU ... CANT U FIGURE OUT ...

NOW I GUESS THERES NOTHIN TO DO EXCEPT WAITING ...

REGARDS ...

*§HaH§*

[jeffkewin]

Keep waiting......

[SHAHS]

YEA EXACTLy ... LOL :wink:


LOTS REGARDS ...


*§HaH§*

[jeffkewin]

We will still wait... :lol:

[xboy]

I'm waiting WM5 on XdaIIi too.
Just hope. :roll:

[shaice]

same here.

I think I will going to buy a HTC tytn.

s

[clustered]

Other people busy talking about WM6 but us at here busy asking/waiting about WM5 for Alpine device.

Getting tired waiting news for WM5/Linux or Extended ROM Unlocker!

[kdskamal]

Other people busy talking about WM6 but us at here busy asking/waiting about WM5 for Alpine device.

Getting tired waiting news for WM5/Linux or Extended ROM Unlocker!


me too badly waiting for extended rom unlocker !!

[mohammedhus]

I am bored of waiting :(

I think is our alpine devices is good with windows 2003se.
Why we want wm5?! :?

What is the benefits we will gain to upgrade to the new version of windows?!

Thanks

[andy-c1]

I am bored of waiting :(

I think is our alpine devices is good with windows 2003se.
Why we want wm5?! :?

What is the benefits we will gain to upgrade to the new version of windows?!

Thanks
dunno i just wanted it lol .....but now i think it's like a moris minor ,you can get bits and pieces but you can never get a complete new overhaul ,i'm trying to get some ££ to buy a new pda and all i'm waiting for is my company phone to see if it has bluetooth so i can just buy the mio all in 1 pda only

[afterlife]

Wat im longing for in WM5 is the Pushmail server together with Exchange. How i wish i have the feature.

[huypq76]

Heres a quick online petition i put together

http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/WM2005-XDAIIi

Please sign up we'll see if we can get O2 to work on our device :)





@Admin if there's any problems with this at all, please contact me and ill remove it.
I can't pay online, tell me another method, pls!
Thanks!

[Taz69]

Wat im longing for in WM5 is the Pushmail server together with Exchange. How i wish i have the feature.

This is available now with Roadsync

http://www.dataviz.com/solutions/enterprise/roadsync/index.html?redirect=roadsync

[afterlife]

Thanks bro.

[jeffkewin]

still waiting for WM5 on Alpine

[mohammedhus]

we need wm5, please anybody help!

[afterlife]

Frankly wat are the chances we will have WM5 for Alpine??? Was thinking of selling for HP6828 or Atom Exec.....

[bardo]

Hi…just wondering. Is there any big difference between WM3 and 5? I will rather have HTC with O2 solving the problems with Radios (I will like to use Pug's version but I also need the blackberry) and problems with SD cards, I had to crop a destinator map and save it into my main memory in order not to reset the PPC all the time, also using an SD card (2G for £22) is a good way to use it an MP3 player...but having to reset it all the time is not what i will say "friendly”.
If WM05 fixes this, great, if not…it looks like migrating W98 to ME…same sh…different UI!
O2 sold us the XDAlli saying it was compatible with MMC and SD cards, but it only takes you a couple of minutes searching in the forum to see all the problems we are having with the SD card. In other words the didn’t deliver what they promise.
Getting some of these problems together and showing them to O2 may show them that it may be cheaper to deploy WM05 to solve them rather than fixing each of them separately (please bear in mind I said MAY

[clustered]

I dont think we'll play with WM5 on Alpine devices but Im getting OK with that even felt sad too :(

I hope there'll be a new ROM to make it more stable and the most important is the EXTENDED ROM UNLOCKER so that HTC ALPINE users know that they are moving 1 step ahead.... Hope so.... Thanks everyone! ;)

[jeffkewin]

It run well on WM2003SE.

I have modify plugs roms,
- O2 Phone Plus 1.7
- O2 theme (Wallpaper)
- Camera replacement to CoolCamera
- GPRS Monitoring
- HTC PhonePad English
- Last contract as First name (Smart dial addon)

It work well, simply the best. :), if there is WM2005.

[afterlife]

can u upload O2 Phone Plus 1.7 ??

[kylder]

Hi, I can look foolish... how do you know your xda IIi is Alpine or Himalaya?:confused:
Regards

[tiffany8681]

Thank . . . :D :D :D

[afterlife]

xda IIi is Alpine

[zx6r2004]

ok im in uk xda2 i on orange lol whats the best upgrade to use plus to get rid of all the oc crap thanks

[Punisher102]

I have an unlocked sx66 and am looking for the upgrade to wm5. I have searched the Microsoft site, along with the cingular and tmobile and none of them have it available for download.

Thanks for your time.

[jeffkewin]

I guess WM5 wont happened for XDAIIi.

[Armarn]

Finaly: dont wait WM5 for Alpine :(

[zbs168]

Keep waiting......

[petrp]

Hi

I´m having problems with my O2 Xda IIi it stuck´s like 3 times a week i have to reset it. Is there any upgrade for this phone (I know about the Rom´s i have upgrade it from wiki ( 1.11.00)) that´s the one where was the O2 soft. removed it works beter than the O2 one but still it has some mistakes. What is the best one to use????

[Ravenlord]

There isn't enough assistance for this devices...It's a shame! Before offer for sale this expensive products they have to been sure that the product is ok!
But instead provide assistance, they make new models.
I hope that one day they starve all! If I write to q-tek,dangaard,htc,o2, etc etc they answer me that the pocket pc hasn't problem...Eeeeeeh?!?!?! Hasn't it got problems?!?!?! But where??? The reality is that they not even know how to resolve the problems! Unskilleds!

Sorry for my words and for my english, but I'm very angry!

Greetings

[naoki1980]

Buddy.. apparently there is nothing we can do.. The world works this way.. they are out for profit and nothing else. If the percentage of the market using the Alpine is so small, I seriously doubt they will do much to answer to our cries of a WM2005 upgrade. Its just plainly not feasible to spend so much money purchasing WM2005 for the upgrades when the number of Alpine users is so little.

[viewedit]

I have decided to ban o2 for life. if possible everyone should do it, and mail them too. may be they will think twice before experimenting on consumers with xdaIIi type of product.This company SUCKS BIG TIME.

[kojirovn]

Without WM05, i though the o2i works good enough. When u watch inside the processor of machine, what u need? i was using some devices with wm05 as t-mobile mda, vodafone vpa and orange spv m600 but i though i'll back to o2i. That's all.

[stratocaster]

Hi All,

I bought an O2 xda IIi from China with a very good price right after my original O2 Atom has been stolen ( still not sure the device is O2 or not but at least the cover of the device is O2 :-) - knowing that in China everything is possible!!!)

I read whole the postings under Alpine Upgrading and i saw the WM 5.0 case was closed. the guy who sold me the phone told me that its possible to upgrade it to WM5.0 and now i m going to get it.

will update you soon regarding that.

Also would like to thank PUG for his efforts, I really impressed what he's done!

Ps. if this chinese guy can't upgrade it to WM5.0 i will try to get Pug's rom but still couldnt get it downloaded. (ofcourse without O2 stuff in it)

With regards,

Stratocaster

[stratocaster]

not possible says the chinese, i gave the machine back aswell

[Carty]

Nice to return the device :) But unfortunate that these O2 guys never consider making a WM5 upgrade for their devices especially Magician which is a lovely device still. WM5 is the only feature it stays behind. But still, the device is most stable devices made ever i feel.

Anyway, never worry about loosing your device again as you've already lost one ATom. Check out Ultimate Theft Alert (www.pocketpc-live.com/ultimate-theft-alert-v3-for-pocket-pcs.html) for Pocket PC phones.

Regards,
Carty..

[jeffkewin]

When we start to see Alpine rose up again as the popular device ... with WM5 or WM6

[animelover]

When the Alpine get a WM6 for itself, it would be like a new born Phoenix!


Alpine, the best PPC I ever had!!!!

[animelover]

i asked buzz if he would like to get my Alpine to develop a WM5 or better a WM6 for the Alpine! I'm strained what buzz say to it!

[onuer]

NOW we uptade our o2 wm5?
I want to setup wm5 my o2 XDAIIi
Is this possible?
And how to setup this rom?

[razielu]

Upgrading the HTC Alpine [QTek 2020i, O2 XDA IIi, Orange SPV M1500, etc.] to WM5 is not possible, and since WM6 Crossbow works on the very same kernel as WM5, upgrading to WM6 is also not possible, unfortunately. Too bad for the Alpine as it is a very good device!

[bushako]

hey does any1 knw if the camera module on the xda2i would work on the xda2 himalaya...it seems that theres never going to be a wm5 for the alpine so im planning to replace the xda2i motherboard with another motherboard from an xda2 himalaya..i knw it sounds dumb...but i think hoping and waiting for a wm5 for alpine is much more dumber thing to do...

[Armarn]

Upgrading the HTC Alpine [QTek 2020i, O2 XDA IIi, Orange SPV M1500, etc.] to WM5 is not possible, and since WM6 Crossbow works on the very same kernel as WM5, upgrading to WM6 is also not possible, unfortunately. Too bad for the Alpine as it is a very good device!

oh noooo,
its very very bad news

[JP2005]

I recently checked the O2 website and they have released the xda argon.

A supposed follow up to the xda IIi, but it runs on a samsung processor @ 400MHz (as the manual specs states).

But it ships with WM5 as the OS.

Is it possible to port it into the Alpine?

Is the xda argon even considered as an Alpine?

[clustered]

Hi,

For now there's nothing possible to port WM5 on HTC Alpine. Even HTC Himalaya that 100% looks like Alpine also mean different when talking about what inside it.

I still do believe that buzz can do it but its too late.

[greenghost]

Id like to use the pushing technologie and advanced bluetooth-features of WM2005 on my XDA IIi

[nick111]

that is a interesting question discussed by so many people, WM5.0.

[bushako]

:(:( i feel sooooooo sad looking back at the old memories of the alpine....ahh the wm2003 and all the days of suffering of losing precious data from cold boots...but i still miss them..if only a wm5.0 was released for this piece i would have never had to turn my back on it and get the htc universal....frankly so far i find the jasjar the best of all imate phones regardless of it weight and dimension but its size is only proportional to the features packed in it...not to mention upgradeable to wm6.0...and its unique design from all the rest.with its keyboard and ohyea...the 3.5mm audio jack input...ahhh what more can i ask for....:D


long live alpine...you will always be remembered!!!:p

[Godl1ke.GC]

So no-one is actually working on XDA IIi's ROM upgrades? thats a shame if not, I would be willing to help out in any way I could.
I just recently got one, Think its great... think it would be even better with WM5 or WM6! :)

[jamieplucinski]

The Xda 2i wipes the floor when it comes to system specifications against half if not more than half of the WM5 devices out there, o2 saying they won't be releasing an upgrade because it's not supported is BS, the Xda 2i sold so many devices that they can't justify upgrading it and not cashing in on the upgrades to new WM5 devices.

When I was in the UK I saw people with an Xda2i daily, when I moved to Canada I still see businessmen running around with one, because for the money, the Xda 2i is a powerhouse of a mobile device, and I've seen people turn down any number of mobile devices to get their hands on one.

If anyone knew where to start in upgrading it to WM5 it'd be great, and I'm positive it's possible, until then we Alpine owners need to keep searching for that holy grail.

[aleksander100]

HAve you heard all about o2 flame it has 128 mb ram and wm5 so even o2 xda IIi does so what is the problem then cant they simply give an upgrade?

[xnym]

I have read a post in a HK newsgroup that claim WM5 for Xda IIi is available from dealer, but needed to be pay (for HKD few hundreds, ~USD100).

Does anyone heard the similar case in other country(s) ??

[blurman]

i´ve never heard anything like that. i also got a htc alpine...and i just can´t understand why those stupid guys wont give us a wm 5 or 6 rom. now i´ve been searching for an equal pda for days. its just hopeless. 3.2 inch display, 520mhz, that size, weight for a payable price. i want to buy a new one but there aren´t any!! or have you guys found one??

i´ve been looking on german and english market... (the german is very poor). of course there is a xda flame but 900 bugs?! thats a joke. so i will keep my alpine and arg with the 2003 se OS :mad: until i found a new one or wait till they finally release an update......

[andy-c1]

i've given up waiting ,have just purchased the new tomtom 720 ,so it looks like this might be 1 of my last posts on this site as my xda will go into storage probably never to be used again

[binh_hdda]

i've given up waiting ,have just purchased the new tomtom 720 ,so it looks like this might be 1 of my last posts on this site as my xda will go into storage probably never to be used again

Any new about this matter....:(

[samnangsonita]

Hi now i use XDA IIi and i want upgrade to WM5 or WM6 please help me

[captirwin]

Hi now i use XDA IIi and i want upgrade to WM5 or WM6 please help me
READ THE PREVIOUS POSTS:D
Start with #9 on page one.

[kyrsid]

In these pages I have been reading a lot of complaints, alot of anger and distress, but also a lot of preasing of a phone we have all bought and lived with for quite some time and we are still happy with. And we believe that even after many years of being out on the market it still beats the lights out of new smart phones and pocket pc's.

So, are we happy? YES!
Do we want to change it? NO!

What are we going to do about it?
I propose to fix a date and time and send a dynamic message to let them know that the Alpine is a great machine and that WE WANT WM5 (or wm6) on our ALPINES!

I propose 31 of September at 21:00 GMT.

What do you say? Do you want to fight for your rights?

[viethai]

I agree but how can we do? Plz show me. May be our vote has no effect on Manufactures but it show how many of us agree to fight.

[Arctic Matt]

I agree end of semptember is good for me too. I have held out for a while now for getting a new phone as my hacked, upgraded and modified IIi still does the works. (I don't need built in GPS or 3G yet).

So here is my addon...
I will pay $100 to any one that can get me WM6 going smoothly on my IIi.
Anyone else want to join me?
I'll now begin a new thread based on this.

[Alan Chan]

The Alpine was actually an awesome device at its time....128ram, wifi, bluetooth, 520mhz processor, 1.3 megapix camera. But its a shame to see no unofficial WM5 or WM6 ROM to be made for it :( . I was wondering if anyone out there actually still developing a custom ROM for it or the Alpine ROM is simply a forgotten project :mad:

[umbezt]

sorry to go a lil bit off here wanted to know if it's possible to upgrade myxda II to WM5 cuz i can't even watch anything online!!!

[captirwin]

sorry to go a lil bit off here wanted to know if it's possible to upgrade myxda II to WM5 cuz i can't even watch anything online!!!

your in the wrong section.

[jeffkewin]

I have actually wait for it to be WM5 or WM6 but it is not happening..

[beneyre]

I have actually wait for it to be WM5 or WM6 but it is not happening..

well if they Release WM5 for the XDA IIi, / HTC Alpine, then that would then also open the floodgates for the HTC Magician / MDA Compact, since they use the same processor, just the Alpine is a few mhz faster, as for the magician only haveing 64mb ram and 64mb rom, that is not the issue really, as that can be over come, so if they release a wm5 for the alpine, then it looks a reality that the magician will get wm5 as well, via a home cooked rom

Ben

[dickeywong888]

The Alpine was actually an awesome device at its time....128ram, wifi, bluetooth, 520mhz processor, 1.3 megapix camera. But its a shame to see no unofficial WM5 or WM6 ROM to be made for it :( . I was wondering if anyone out there actually still developing a custom ROM for it or the Alpine ROM is simply a forgotten project :mad:

If there are WM5 rom release..I will get a 2nd hand one as it was a good price now..

[babagoo]

Ive Just Bought A O2xda2i From Ebay At A Good Price Is There Any Way They Will Have Windos Mobile 5 On This Unit Or Should I Just Stick To The Windows 2003 Se ?

[alchopop]

sorry if this seems rude but one assumes you have read the "whole" thread
Alchopop

[Karlitos800]

Hi guys, i saw the specific of the new HTC 6300.. it's very similar to our xdaIIi, and designed for wm5..
do you think we can use its rom in our device? any problem to come back to wm03se if something doesn't work?

[Rudegar]

if looking like another device was enough alpine would already have wm5 from himalaya
drivers is the only think that matters and i doubt HTC 6300 and alpine share many of those

[The Owl]

I don't know why all the need for WM 5 / 6 the Alpine is one of the fastest PDA's made, I personally am happy with it and a mate who has a Orbit says its comparable with his 2003 SE might not be the latest but it does everything I need runs TT6 etc what more do I need?

[dazaau]

[QUOTE= it does everything I need runs TT6 etc what more do I need?[/QUOTE]
you need it not to crash everytime you get a call while running TT6 - that is what you need.

[pbohemien]

What about the XDA Argon? Seems to be a XDA 2i with WM5! Isn't it?

[Rudegar]

no it just have the same case non of the insides are alike

[The Owl]

you need it not to crash everytime you get a call while running TT6 - that is what you need.

Well hate to disapoint you but I do not get "crash's" while using TomTom 6 and the phone, works fine for me, and dont get me wrong but being disabled and the driver I would not put up with it if it did.

I always have TT on when mobile even if I know where I am going purely for the speed camera warnings, (I was issued with a lead foot some years ago but TT helps me keep safe from them, and sine I fix computers for friend I am always getting calls while out and about as I put the home phone on divert to the mobile

[dazaau]

How do you manage that?? I understood you had to either have your phone completely off or it would crash. I have tried it with a couple different GPS software programs on my XDA IIi (inc TT6) and it just crashes.

If you can tell me why yours works I would very much appreciate it,

Thanks,
Daniel



Well hate to disapoint you but I do not get "crash's" while using TomTom 6 and the phone, works fine for me, and dont get me wrong but being disabled and the driver I would not put up with it if it did.

I always have TT on when mobile even if I know where I am going purely for the speed camera warnings, (I was issued with a lead foot some years ago but TT helps me keep safe from them, and sine I fix computers for friend I am always getting calls while out and about as I put the home phone on divert to the mobile

[qiqo]

Hmm.. so i hope we could still make our alpines run wm6... or 7.. well really imposible for 7 though..

[The Owl]

a hardware GPS NOT bluetooth and a good copy of TT6, I use the TT almost constantly purely as a camera dector (I am a ex Transport Manager so I don't need general directions normally only the last / local bit if going somewhere, but since I fix computers I am "On tap" to my customers all the time, and the home phone goes on call divert to my mobile when out and about, only thing I wish I had is a real / decent car mount got a silly plastic job at the moment.

[The Owl]

Hmm.. so i hope we could still make our alpines run wm6... or 7.. well really imposible for 7 though..



That wont ever happen

[robsno]

TomTom 6 runs fine with a bluetooth GPS and making or taking calls on the phone does not affect it. Never had any problems. Running tomtom off an SD card, the card needs to be fast, mine is 150x. That may be your problem.

WM2003se is a darn site faster than WM 5 & 6, if you want to update the interface go to http://www.pointui.com/ to look at it and to http://forums.pointui.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=858 to download it if you like it. It will feel like you have a new machine.

[AlbertWT]

yes, I'd like to know if there is a way to upgrade WM 2003 SE to WM 5 if possible ?

after I read this post i began to doubt:

http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/10/06/477999.aspx