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rokujou
17th August 2005, 12:12 PM
FYI, I recently received an e-mail from some guy at O2 Data Support.

Hi Andy,

Thank you for your email,

As regards your queries below -

The HTC Universal - we are branding the device as the 'O2 XDA Exec', and we will be launching at some point in the near future, unfortunately we don't have any confirmed date for this as yet. I have also attached a file with some FAQ's regarding the device which I hope will help quench some of your gadgetry needs! (I myself also love gadgets).

As regards the XDA 2s, we are aware of issues with the device at present, and advise customers to hard reset the device and go into Corporate mode (with a pin number of 0506). Within Corporate mode, the clock is present in the top right corner, and the O2 Active software does not install. We will be releasing a new ROM for the device, but again, we can't advise of any release date as we don't know any as yet, and also cannot confirm what software will be in the new release. I assume with new releases for the XDA 2s, that there 'should' be WMP10, but again, we can't confirm or deny that as yet.

As regards WM2005 for the other XDA series, this question is answered in the attached file.

If you have any further queries, do not hesitate to contact us again.

Regards,

Paul
O2 Data Support UK

And it also seems that a few people are confusing the spec. So this is the attached file he was talking about in his e-mail. It's an o2 XDA Exec FAQ:

Xda Exec & Windows Mobile 5.0 - FAQ's

Q. When will O2 launch devices running Windows Mobile 5.0?
A. The Xda Exec (HTC Universal) will be the first Windows Mobile 5.0 device although a launch date is yet to be confirmed.

Q. Will any of the current Xda range receive a ROM upgrade to Windows Mobile 5.0 operating system?
A. There is currently no planned upgrade for O2 Xda II, IIs, IIi devices to Windows Mobile 5.0 and it is highly unlikely this will happen.

Q. What is the spec of the Xda Exec?
A. The provisional spec (some of which is subject to change) is as follows;

Windows Mobile 5.0 (which includes 'persistent memory')
Intel XScale PXA272 520MHz processor
ROM 128MB (used as storage)
Ram 64MB (used for running apps only)
3.6” 640x480 65k transflective colour backlit LCD
up to 4/2/20/200 GSM Talk/3G Talk/PDA/Standby time
GSM Tri-band (900/1800/1900), UMTS Single-band (2100)
GPRS class 10, UMTS 64/384
Bluetooth 1.2, Infrared and mini-USB connector
Wireless LAN 802.11b
SD/MMC/SDIO slot
3.5mm Audio Connector
Stereo Speakers
Integrated camera (resolution 1280 x 960) with LED flash and 2nd CIF camera for 3G video calls
Integrated antenna
15 buttons (Answer, hangup, PTT, OK, Start, Camera, Power, VoiceRecord, 5-way nav
56-key QWERTY keyboard with light sensor to auto-adjust backlight
Removable battery (1620mah)
Weight: 285 grams
Minimum Activesync version required 4.0
PC operating systems supported Windows 2000/XP (no support for Windows 95, 98, ME, NT)
Supports Activesync synchronisation of video/audio files in conjunction with Windows Media Player 10
Screen: 10640 x 480 VGA resolution
Enhanced O2 Active interface
Power Save software
Three setup modes - Full O2 Active, Intermediate and Corporate
Dimensions are 81mm x 127.7mm x25mm
Q. Why does Xda II have more RAM memory than Xda Exec?
A. You shouldn't compare RAM across the different operating systems as they use RAM very differently. The difference is as follows;

Windows Mobile 5.0 devices use RAM for running programs only.
Windows Mobile 2002/2003 devices split RAM memory in half - between running programs and user data storage (emails, contacts, pictures, videos, Word documents etc.)
So Xda II and Xda Exec use roughly the same amount of RAM for running programs. However Xda Exec stores user data in the Flash ROM memory, as part of the "persistant storage" feature of Windows Mobile 5.0.

It should also be remembered that more RAM impacts battery consumption, so more RAM would require a larger battery.


Hope that's enlightened a few people.

Cheers,

Andy

Bully
17th August 2005, 12:25 PM
I'm a bit worried about that screen size, it's going to be a problem getting it in your pocket!

rokujou
17th August 2005, 12:57 PM
lol yeah looks like he might a slight typo ;)

unless they have a new technology that makes pixels super tiny

Andy

peter_altherr
17th August 2005, 03:07 PM
it is supposed to appear as:

Screen: 10" 640 x 480 VGA resolution

i guess... :-)

peter_altherr
17th August 2005, 03:09 PM
ahmmmm...

let's say:

Screen: 10cm 640 x 480 VGA resolution

anyway, thanks for posting that o2 letter. that really enlightens at least me.

BoSJo
17th August 2005, 03:14 PM
Nice, the first ever PPC with a WideWideWide scren :D

double_ofour
17th August 2005, 03:25 PM
NICE :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D NICE

rick83
17th August 2005, 06:11 PM
the 64mb ram makes me think... IMO i find it little to use... any way to upgrade it ? to at least someth i can live with (128)

saldous
17th August 2005, 06:20 PM
The more RAM you have, the less time the battery will last. Manufacturers are starting to use ROM going forwards to enable longer battery life.

rick83
17th August 2005, 06:28 PM
but there are bigger batt avail...maybe in time to come for the universal.

RAGOv
18th August 2005, 10:54 AM
the 64mb ram makes me think... IMO i find it little to use... any way to upgrade it ? to at least someth i can live with (128)

In fact u can!!...there's room for 2 additional slots,so u can have ur 128MB REAL RAMS....read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26375 ...
But the question is:do u need 128 MB RAM....remember that u don't have ext ROM nor storage memory anymore,wich used to share with u ur old RAMS...now u have 64MB...and they are pure RAMs.....
greetings...

RAGO :lol:

Rudegar
18th August 2005, 12:56 PM
well since the ram is only for running applications and not storage
then it should not matter
if it's 64 over 128 with our devices now nobody use 128MB as application memory anyway since we use some for storage

and applications use the memory they were made to use
having more should not make them speed up

the only thing more pure application memory does it that applications people have closed as in minimized live for longer before they are terminated
as in faster multitasking of running programs

rick83
18th August 2005, 05:41 PM
how do i upgrade the ram. Is it like those SD card type (just slot in) or do i need to soulder ?

Rudegar
20th August 2005, 02:08 PM
how do i upgrade the ram. Is it like those SD card type (just slot in) or do i need to soulder ?
as far as i can tell from the pictures then you need a soulder
and a smd soulder at that
not something for a person not exp'd with such things
maybe some company will offer the upgrade
not sure if it would require a special rom to address the extre memory though
but thats just application running ram you can still get a sd card for storage if you need more then the 128 mb storage it comes with
(that is unless the 128 is also for the rom itself)

Ricki_Hunter
6th September 2005, 01:10 AM
I think that we should put together a "WISH LIST" for the XDA3.

I'll go first

4GIG Hard Disk - Like the Palm 1
5MP Camera - with a decent lens and Optical Zoom
Proper USB port allowing for a loud speaker like on the samsung phones
The Case shouldn't scratch so easily
Proper Head Phone Jack (blody annoying with the 2,5" rubbish)
Faster WIFI 54 (if not 108)

I can think of loads more - but I'll throw it open right now!






















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srmz
6th September 2005, 09:10 AM
A tiny screen on the front cover to tell who is calling without needing to open the flip and if possible basic input buttons to dial and write short SMS without needing to open the flip

Ricki_Hunter
8th September 2005, 08:40 PM
A tiny screen on the front cover to tell who is calling without needing to open the flip and if possible basic input buttons to dial and write short SMS without needing to open the flip

I think I've writtne in the wrong String My XDAIIi doesn't have a Flip of any Description