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TofClock
24-09-2005, 06:50 PM
I've managed a new ramdisk for ours Himalaya under wm2005

Usage :
put the cab on your himalaya and run it
soft-reset

A new folder named "Storage" appears , this is the ramdisk .

You can install program or store datas(photo,notes,...) on it

On every soft-reset , all datas and programs are here :)
On hard-reset :
if "CleanRegistryValue" and "FormatStorage" are NO :
all datas and programs are here :)

if "CleanRegistryValue" and "FormatStorage" are YES :
the "Storage" folder don't apper anymore ....

BUT :
If you reinstall the ramdisk and soft-reset , "Storage" folder reappers and .... tadadaaaaam ... all datas are here !!!!!!!

program are here too but anable to function because some modules of them and links are not here because storage formatted ...

This ramdisk has only tested with Himalaya under 1.60c

Test-it and tell me if you like it :)
1.
Rom 1.60c 96Mb ram (http://tofclok.free.fr/WM2005/wm2k5_1.60c.96wwe.rar)
Ram Disk 32Mb (http://tofclok.free.fr/WM2005/utils/RamDisk_32.cab)

2.
Rom 1.60c 64Mb ram (http://tofclok.free.fr/WM2005/wm2k5_1.60c.64wwe.rar)
Ram Disk 64Mb (http://tofclok.free.fr/WM2005/utils/RamDisk_64.cab)

3.
Rom 1.60c 32Mb ram (http://tofclok.free.fr/WM2005/wm2k5_1.60c.32wwe.rar)
Ram Disk 96Mb (http://tofclok.free.fr/WM2005/utils/RamDisk_96.cab)



EDIT : Thanks to Buzz for his "ramdisk.dll" !!

RAGOv
24-09-2005, 10:29 PM
Hi...
Nice work TofClock....thanx a lot :)
But if it's ramdisk,this means storing on RAMs,and RAMs are not persistent memory,so how comes data remains there after formatting storage!!!! :?
I guess that somehow(not sure!!),we are having like 96MB lets say of persistant memory(asuming that 32MB persistant of extrom+DOC,and 64 RAM disk)....it's not logic,but if it's true,then......GREAT :D
thanx again bro....

RAGO :lol:

ramram
24-09-2005, 11:11 PM
I just can't wait to see such thing on our BA's :twisted:

pimbo
25-09-2005, 11:53 AM
I just can't wait to see such thing on our BA's :twisted:

I'f you or anybody has a trick to get free ram on BA, its solved, i do not have information about those "2 bytes" of data for our rom to get the free ram :cry:

TofClock
25-09-2005, 11:54 AM
I don't have a blueangel , i can't help you ....


I think mamaich will do this for you :)

dave
28-09-2005, 03:28 PM
:?

*Upgraded to wm2k5 with 64+64 config. ram downloaded here
*Made hard reset as per instructions after install
*installed postfixes as per instructions
*softresetted
*installed 64 mb ramdisk
*softresetted

BUT I cannot see any storage.

My Memory config is just 60.xx megs (56+14)

I can find neither "CleanRegistryValue" nor "FormatStorage" in the registry

What did I miss ?????

Please help

SaBo
28-09-2005, 06:10 PM
I can find neither "CleanRegistryValue" nor "FormatStorage" in the registry

It is not in the registry.
You need to make a hardreset your device, like this:
*****
Press ResetButton and hold down CameraButton + RecordButton.
Hold them pressed until the "Boot Options" menu appears on the screen.

Select the options as follows:
(for selecting use RecordButton, change values with CameraButton)

Enable KITL -> NO
Clean Registry Hive -> YES
Format Storage -> YES

When done, press DPad and wait until OS starts.
*****

Sascha

dave
30-09-2005, 03:57 PM
I can find neither "CleanRegistryValue" nor "FormatStorage" in the registry

It is not in the registry.
You need to make a hardreset your device, like this:
*****
Press ResetButton and hold down CameraButton + RecordButton.
Hold them pressed until the "Boot Options" menu appears on the screen.

Select the options as follows:
(for selecting use RecordButton, change values with CameraButton)

Enable KITL -> NO
Clean Registry Hive -> YES
Format Storage -> YES

When done, press DPad and wait until OS starts.
*****

Sascha

Thanks Sascha for the clarification. In the meanwhile I was able to have my ramdisk 8)

I found it by chance: I installed (for the 10th-20th time...) , was called on the other phone so left my device on the desk. It turned off itself,so when I got it in my hands I made the soft reset ... and the ramdisk was there after the soft reset.
As I like to be sure of what is the reason for things I wanted to double check.
I hard resetted again, installed the ramdisk and softresetted without turning off first; no chance again, no matter how many times I tried.
Hard resetted again, installed ramdisk, turned the device off and then softresetted. The ramdisk was there again.

So it was not by chance, the trick for me is to turn the device off before softresetting :shock:
Maybe some of the coding/WM gurus can explain why [some sort of data caching...?] but this are the facts. :P

Hope this can help somebody else.

Phreakazoidz
01-10-2005, 06:53 AM
i got country Id error message..

:twisted:

dave
01-10-2005, 07:57 PM
i got country Id error message..

:twisted:
Go to www.buzzdev.net, into the download section.

There is a Himaupgrade_noID.exe, download and use it.

It jumps some checks and should work...

ezumi
03-10-2005, 02:43 AM
Can somebody explain how to install Ramdisk..

I have done:

*Upgraded to wm2k5 with 96+32 config. ram downloaded here
*Made hard reset as per instructions after install

I got the wm2k5 with 96 installed. But not sure how to install the 32 ramdisk. :cry:

Thanks in advance..

TofClock
03-10-2005, 03:31 AM
just put the ramdisk cab file on your ppc and run it :)

eddyve
03-10-2005, 11:34 AM
HI guys, if this really works, then it is very usefull. I have 2 questions (maybe stupid questions, because I am not that technical)
1) Is this ramdisk affected by the buzz tools (hima_doc_tool and hima_doc_restore)
2) I guess if you have 96 mb of new ram memory (or 32, 64) this memory has to come fom somewhere, where you have less memory?

thx

buzz_lightyear
03-10-2005, 12:29 PM
HI guys, if this really works, then it is very usefull. I have 2 questions (maybe stupid questions, because I am not that technical)
1) Is this ramdisk affected by the buzz tools (hima_doc_tool and hima_doc_restore)
2) I guess if you have 96 mb of new ram memory (or 32, 64) this memory has to come fom somewhere, where you have less memory?

thx

This ramdisk driver is a very old story... well it was available before the full RAM on WM5... actually it was "the beginning" :o)
Read the whole RAMDisk story here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=20312).

RAMDisk is not affected by DOC Tools at all.

If you ask, where is the memory coming from, the answer is easy.
On Himalaya there is 128Mb RAM and 32Mb of DOC.
If you have flashed OS patched for less memory (e.g. 96/64/32), then do the simple math...
128 - 96 = 32 available to ramdisk
128 - 64 = 64 available to ramdisk
128 - 32 = 96 available to ramdisk

Of course you dont have to patch the OS for less memory, but then, once you fill the memory up to the address, where ramdisk starts, your device will hang. And if you don't patch, RAMDisk will not keep it's data across reboots.

DOC is originaly partitioned as 16Mb ExtROM and 14Mb Storage.
FAT0 on DOC is ExtROM and FAT1 is Storage. It is hardcoded in the OS, that it uses FAT1 for Storage.

DOC Tools are just resizing ExtROM(FAT0) to minimum, thus OS can use the rest(FAT1) of the DOC as Storage.

buzz

ezumi
04-10-2005, 12:03 AM
just put the ramdisk cab file on your ppc and run it :)

Thanks..

I've done it.. WM2005 is great.. but I need the PIM software that can be used with WM2005. I've tried Pocket Informant & Agenda Fusion, both are not compatible with WM2005.

Is there any fix or any PIM compatible with WM2005? Anybody have any idea?

Thanks..
:D ezumi

dave
04-10-2005, 08:39 PM
just put the ramdisk cab file on your ppc and run it :)

Thanks..

I've done it.. WM2005 is great.. but I need the PIM software that can be used with WM2005. I've tried Pocket Informant & Agenda Fusion, both are not compatible with WM2005.

Is there any fix or any PIM compatible with WM2005? Anybody have any idea?

Thanks..
:D ezumi

Try pocketbreeze from www.sbsh.net

It is not exactly a PIM sw, but a PIM "displayer", and much more. I use it daily with the default calendar and tasks sw and it is great. It has so many features that many users stopped using PI or AF, but it offers full integration with both of them.
The last beta is already wm5 compatible. :D

ezumi
05-10-2005, 01:22 AM
Try pocketbreeze from www.sbsh.net

It is not exactly a PIM sw, but a PIM "displayer", and much more. I use it daily with the default calendar and tasks sw and it is great. It has so many features that many users stopped using PI or AF, but it offers full integration with both of them.
The last beta is already wm5 compatible. :D

Thanks mate ... I'll try that.. :)

Pipper
05-10-2005, 03:08 AM
Links died, please check. Thanks a lot :wink:

buzz_lightyear
05-10-2005, 08:18 AM
Links died, please check. Thanks a lot :wink:

which links?

buzz

Pipper
05-10-2005, 12:42 PM
Sorry, it was just my network problem :oops:

bxlogic
05-10-2005, 01:31 PM
Does this ram works on XDA OIIi ?

Griffy wiffy
05-10-2005, 01:34 PM
:evil: NO read the forum first. The XDAIIi has different hardware :D :D

bxlogic
05-10-2005, 01:42 PM
:evil: NO read the forum first. The XDAIIi has different hardware :D :D

yea i understand you, but in XDA o2IIi forums has nothing about this, so i was wondering why they dont work? :P

Pipper
05-10-2005, 01:55 PM
i got country Id error message..

:twisted:
Go to www.buzzdev.net, into the download section.

There is a Himaupgrade_noID.exe, download and use it.

It jumps some checks and should work...
Oops, I got the same "Country id error" and i couldn't find any Himaupgrade_noID.exe at buzzdev.net :(

dave
05-10-2005, 02:09 PM
i got country Id error message..

:twisted:
Go to www.buzzdev.net, into the download section.

There is a Himaupgrade_noID.exe, download and use it.

It jumps some checks and should work...
Oops, I got the same "Country id error" and i couldn't find any Himaupgrade_noID.exe at buzzdev.net :(

Look HERE (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29326) :lol: 8)

Pipper
05-10-2005, 02:43 PM
thanks, mate

ezumi
05-10-2005, 03:32 PM
Try pocketbreeze from www.sbsh.net

It is not exactly a PIM sw, but a PIM "displayer", and much more. I use it daily with the default calendar and tasks sw and it is great. It has so many features that many users stopped using PI or AF, but it offers full integration with both of them.
The last beta is already wm5 compatible. :D

... I've loaded my XDA ii with it.. Briliant.. DeveloperOne(AF) and PI programmers should work it out by now..

Thanks for the link mate.. :lol:

dave
06-10-2005, 08:42 PM
Try pocketbreeze from www.sbsh.net

It is not exactly a PIM sw, but a PIM "displayer", and much more. I use it daily with the default calendar and tasks sw and it is great. It has so many features that many users stopped using PI or AF, but it offers full integration with both of them.
The last beta is already wm5 compatible. :D

... I've loaded my XDA ii with it.. Briliant.. DeveloperOne(AF) and PI programmers should work it out by now..

Thanks for the link mate.. :lol:

I just joined the beta testers group of PB, I can only tell you that what you can have now is nothing compared with the upcoming 5.0... :shock:
I remember from sbsh's forum that all the buyers after August 1st will be eligible for a free 5.0 upgrade, so I would seriously think about it :D

abuzeyad
09-10-2005, 05:08 PM
thanx frined
i tried Ram Disk 96Mb
it works but another problem apper :(
evrey time I rest, my files in storage disappear!!!
:shock:

SaBo
09-10-2005, 05:46 PM
evrey time I rest, my files in storage disappear!!!
:shock:

You did not flash with the appropriate patched 1.60c ROM

Sascha

abuzeyad
09-10-2005, 11:10 PM
You did not flash with the appropriate patched 1.60c ROM

Sascha

I download my 1.60c ROM from http://www.buzzdev.net
what I think that's the one!!

buzz_lightyear
10-10-2005, 08:35 AM
You did not flash with the appropriate patched 1.60c ROM

Sascha

I download my 1.60c ROM from http://www.buzzdev.net
what I think that's the one!!

please go to buzzdev.net and search the forum for 1.60c.96
1.60c.00 is the full RAM version. not patched.

buzz

TerryTay
19-10-2005, 01:36 PM
Thank to Buzz, I have my Ram Disk 64Mb install. All my contents survive with soft-reset. But when I replaced my battery, my storage become blank, me date & clock go hairwire :oops:

Insane Devil
21-10-2005, 09:02 PM
Hi all,

firstly, Thanx a lot to Buzz for the lovely WM5 flashing resource!

I had installed 1.60b previously and uninstalled it later to go back to WM2003se coz i badly need INTELLIDIALER for my everyday dialing, and wm5.0 didnt support it. nor did it support any of the intelli dialing softwares like Fingerclix.

Now could u all please tell me if INTELLIDIALER (the one that comes with 2m2003se) will work with WM5.0 ? if not, will FingerClix work? if not, is there any other intelli dialing software that is compatible with the wm5.0?


Secondly, i would like to know for general usage, which is the best rom to go for? i need the system to be fast, and i can do with the mydocs data going away on hard resets, so which rom would u suggest for me.


THANX a lot in advance!

Insane Devil
21-10-2005, 09:15 PM
Hi guyz,,,

I am still very confused with the 96/64/32 thingy!

now as per my understanding, by default we have

128 MB ram = 64MB Storage, 64MB Program Memory.
14.x MB PERMANENT STORAGE Memory.

Now the 1.60c.64 will give me the similar setup as mentioned above???

if i put 64MB as RAMDISK, then how much of Program Memory do i have?

Currently, in my xda2, i am using only around 30-35MB of storage memory at any given time, coz i dont have any big files to store on the harddisk, i keep them in the storage card.

so for my usage, which is the best option?
trust me, i am very very confused! :D

SaBo
22-10-2005, 12:54 AM
H
128 MB ram = 64MB Storage, 64MB Program Memory.
14.x MB PERMANENT STORAGE Memory.

Now the 1.60c.64 will give me the similar setup as mentioned above?

Yes, except you could get 30 MB persistent storage instead of 14 by using DOC tool.
You can install applications in persistent storage (will survive even complete power drain) and in storage/RAM disk (will survive soft-reset but not power drain, i.e. battery change/discharge).

Sascha

Insane Devil
22-10-2005, 05:21 AM
@ SABO, thanx a lot for ur reply, that helps me a lot. so it means that the RAMDISK is not PERSISTENT and it will act just like the normal storage memory, like in the wm2003se. that gets deleted if power drains. ???

@ Everyone: please someone help me with the Intelli dialing thing. coz without that, i cant shift to wm5. :(

SaBo
22-10-2005, 01:32 PM
so it means that the RAMDISK is not PERSISTENT and it will act just like the normal storage memory, like in the wm2003se.

That is correct.
It acts like the device memory (RAM) which was split into program and storage.

Sascha

vudang
06-11-2005, 10:35 AM
I had update
Rom WM 5.0 1.6c.64
Radio 1.18
install PostInstallFixes_WM5_1.60cWWE_Himalaya, RamDisk_64 then softreset.
I see storage 63.96Mb but not install more software, if i try install it repost not enought storage.
help me.
thank you very much.
mail: vudangvnn@gmail.com

Fire69
14-11-2005, 12:47 PM
This looks very promising, although I must admit I'm still a little confused about all the differents part of memory that become available this way. :(

First I flashed the WM2K5.0 1.6c-rom and synched my contacts. Everything A-Ok.
After reading this thread, I flashed the WM2K5.0 1.6c.64-rom, installed the PostInstallFixes and RamDisk_64.

So far, so good, everything that should be there is there.
I was kind of amazed that after all this flashing and hard-resetting, my contact were still available! :P

But can somebody please explain in detail what the best way is to use all this memory?
Where do I put my files? Where do I install programs?
I'm kind of lost in all the different sorts of memory. :roll:

Thanx :wink:

SaBo
14-11-2005, 05:57 PM
But can somebody please explain in detail what the best way is to use all this memory?
Where do I put my files? Where do I install programs?

All files you do not want to lose go to device (persistant storage)
Other files can be stored in storage/ram disk but get lost when battery runs out of power
You should always backup your important data

Sascha

wangrunfei
16-11-2005, 07:59 AM
Hi, Dear all, I have any questions:
Has the 1.60C32 ROM and 1.60C64 ROM different? Only 96M or 64M storge? Which edition is more quickly and persistent?
I have the 1.60c96 edition now, it's good, but if the 1.60C32 and 1.60C64 are better than this edition, I'll try it! Thanks!

SaBo
16-11-2005, 11:18 AM
I have the 1.60c96 edition now, it's good, but if the 1.60C32 and 1.60C64 are better than this edition, I'll try it! Thanks!

Only the memory configuration is different.
You won't get more than 30 MB persistent storage with any of these ROMs

Sascha

wangrunfei
17-11-2005, 12:40 AM
Thanks

wah127
23-11-2005, 09:33 AM
Hi. :)

If I upgraded my XDA to WM5 96Mb Rom + Ram Disk 32Mb..
Can I just install RamDisk 64Mb to change it to 64Rom + 64 storage?

Thanks a lot.

SaBo
23-11-2005, 11:04 AM
If I upgraded my XDA to WM5 96Mb Rom + Ram Disk 32Mb..
Can I just install RamDisk 64Mb to change it to 64Rom + 64 storage?

No, you need new ROM as well.

Sascha

wah127
23-11-2005, 04:12 PM
No, you need new ROM as well.

Sascha

Thanks for your reply.
One more question, if I refresh my XDA to ROM again. Are there any software could full backup my XDA (WM5)? Just doesn't want to reinstall everything again.. Thanks. :)

SaBo
24-11-2005, 12:09 AM
Are there any software could full backup my XDA (WM5)?

Yes, SunnySoft Backup since Version 3.4 works just fine (latest version is 3.6)

Sascha

wah127
24-11-2005, 01:20 PM
Yes, SunnySoft Backup since Version 3.4 works just fine (latest version is 3.6)

Sascha

Hi Sascha. Thanks a lot. :D

suwandi
29-11-2005, 05:07 AM
Hello bro buzz, i just upgrade my xdaii to wm2k5 w/ rom 96mb and ram 32mb...But in my explorer i can't find my storage folder (which size is 14mb)..when i send files to my xdaii via bluetooth, it's use my storage memory (14mb), not my device memory (96mb)...why was that?
and also when i installed ramdisk 32mb in my device, it's appears as storage folder, not as ramdisk folder...(as i see on screenshot you've showed to us, you have folder named storage (14mb), ramdisk (32mb) and storage card in start>setting>memory...here isthe link :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=20312
i would very appreciate if you would reply this asap...thx bro for your answer.... :shock:

buzz_lightyear
29-11-2005, 12:29 PM
Hello bro buzz, i just upgrade my xdaii to wm2k5 w/ rom 96mb and ram 32mb...But in my explorer i can't find my storage folder (which size is 14mb)..when i send files to my xdaii via bluetooth, it's use my storage memory (14mb), not my device memory (96mb)...why was that?
and also when i installed ramdisk 32mb in my device, it's appears as storage folder, not as ramdisk folder...(as i see on screenshot you've showed to us, you have folder named storage (14mb), ramdisk (32mb) and storage card in start>setting>memory...here isthe link :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=20312
i would very appreciate if you would reply this asap...thx bro for your answer.... :shock:
i've made the RAMDisk wich mounts as "RAMDisk" not "Storage" to avoid CONFUSION and system problems.
You should ask the topicstarter, why he tweaked my RAMDisk to appear as "Storage".

buzz

suwandi
30-11-2005, 08:34 AM
thx buzz for your reply...

ccsnet
30-11-2005, 11:14 PM
I'm wondering - could this be used / tweaked some how to allow extra processing memory in the same way a swap file does for a PC ? Thertically with a big SD card you could have one hell of an amount of memory for use then ?

Terran

morca67
31-08-2006, 05:00 AM
hello everybody
I got some problem.

1. When I upgrade to WM5 Rom 64 + RAM Disk 64, i can't see any Ram Disk ?

2. WM5 Rom 96 + Ram Disk 32 is OK, But I can't open Mail and SMS ?

I send the SMS message to me, the XDA II ... reboot :shock:

What's happen ?

My RADIO Version is 1.08

Have i needs to upgrade RADIO Version ?