After 1 week of use i decide to sell....

[akira]

Ok having my mda pro for a week now

i must say its much slower, heavier, thicker, bad reception, windows 2005 still to young for use, browsing isnt that great..

and maybe more.

compared to my mda II

So i am gonna sell it ..

Its on the dutch 2nd hand market www.marktplaats.nl

Maybe ill regret it but, its just to big and slow.

Maybe ill get a qtek 2020i or mda III instead

[atekant]

I'm thinking the same too.
I am now wishing I waited for the K-Jam.
I wanted something with a keyboard, but JJ is just too awkward to use.

One thing I am thinking is maybe get a SP5 to carry around daily, and use the JJ as a laptop alternative when I am going to be out of reach of my laptop for a while (a while for me is more than 4 hours)

[decebal]

i'm happy with it.

1. has umts and i love it for video calls
2. has nice UMTS speed
3. has the full keyboard and a balanced notebook-type position
4. nice features and I can place it on the table on trains and in car

so ... i'll keep it.

[DaleReeck]

I think that those wanting a phone first and a PDA second will be disappointed in the JasJar. Those (like me :) ) wanting a PDA first and phone second, those who want a mini-laptop, will love the JasJar.

[BrettS]

I think that those wanting a phone first and a PDA second will be disappointed in the JasJar. Those (like me :) ) wanting a PDA first and phone second, those who want a mini-laptop, will love the JasJar.

I think that's exactly right. I do sometimes (well... often) wish the Jasjar was a bit smaller and somewhat lighter, but it does everything I ask of it and it does exactly what I bought it for. I'm not getting rid of this device until something that can do all this and more comes along.

Brett

[Carnivor]

here here! im a pda freak and i love the jj,

just dreaming the future, imagine a jj only difference is the keyboard half is the same thickness as the screen half, now were talking!!!

[sub69]

Well, I think it's fantastic. And it's a lot more stable than my Jam was. I'm using my JasJar far more often and using more functions than I've ever used on a PPC before.

Agreed, there's not a lot of fully compatible software around for it, but honestly, it's a brand new OS and developers are catching up, so that really shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone, should it!?

[universaldoc]

Wow! Can't believe people are actually selling their Universal's!!! I guess to each his/her own.

[akira]

i just wished it could be beter in multimedia

i need it for my work, but awsering phone and working in the agenda is 3 times slower then on my mda II

[atekant]

I think that those wanting a phone first and a PDA second will be disappointed in the JasJar. Those (like me :) ) wanting a PDA first and phone second, those who want a mini-laptop, will love the JasJar.

I don't want a phone first, but JJ is very awkward to use as a phone.
Although a lot of the problems are because I am carrying it closed. When there is a decent case for it so I can carry it in pda mode, most problems will go away:
- You can't tell who's calling without opening the device, which is a two handed operation. Walking down the street with a bag in one hand you have to stop, put the bag down, take jj out of pocket, open it up to see who's calling, close it back and decide what to do with the call
- You can't call out without opening the device, which is a two handed operation. Walking down the street with a bag in one hand you have to stop, put the bag down, take jj out of pocket, make a call, close it back and continue with the call. Even a BT headset doesn't help, because voice calling doesn't work when jj is closed
- Even as a pda it is awkward to open it to just check something. WM5 is operable with a single hand, but you need two hands to open it. Again, this won't be a problem when there is a decent case that allows us to carry it open.

As I said, I will probably keep the jj and get a phone for daily use.
Or get a K-Jam

Also, having bricked the jj 4 days after I bought it and having to wait for 2 weeks for a rom, while fighting with imate support twice daily took the joy out of it I think.

[universaldoc]

@akira,

Are you kidding me? JJ is amazing for multimedia. The screen is mind-blowing and with TCPMP its the most amazing little pocket video player around!!!

And regarding the speed of the device, try multi-tasking on the K-JAM and then tell me what you think of the JJ. Besides, it feels a little slow only the first time you open the program, from thereon its smooth sailing. I really feel you need to re-think the whole thing.

@atekant,

Mate, for a person who spent $1000 on a device, i figured you would just spend another $70 to get yourself a BT headset that supports caller ID. Who the heck told you that you have to go through all that circus shenanigans just to answer or make a call?!?! Just use a BT headset with Caller ID!!! With BT voice dial, you never have to actually open the device to make a call. I have been using voice dial since long and its simply SUPERB!!!

Well, i agree that the "bricking" of the device was an unpleasant experience. Still, i feel you should hold on to it for a little longer as your reasons are not really valid for selling it!!!

My 0.002.

[d.zee]

Can anyone tell me how to change the keys Y and Z on the keyboard?

[imablackhat]

thats a bummer i thought it would be good.

[nabil2000]

I regret being an impulsive buyer, because I might not have bought the Jasjar. That being said, I think the oem HTC let us badly down by thinking for us instead of responding to market demands.
Nowadays people want more storage, more memory, more functionality at a reasonable price, u can see the wish list in the wish-list thread, but at the minimum HTC should have put in 128 MB memory and 256 MB rom, to think that devices like the palm offer 4 GB storage means its not a fantasy.
Also robbing customers of the option for usb hosting is not nice, u dont decide what clients want, if its doable still include it and give them the option not to use it if they dont want to.
I am not talking out of thin air, I used to be involved with consultancies that advise for industry.
I hope the next pda from HTC past the Universal will have learned from clients feeback.
Cheers
Nabil H

[universaldoc]

@nabil,

What are the things that make you feel you shouldn't have purchased the JJ?

[atekant]

With BT voice dial, you never have to actually open the device to make a call. I have been using voice dial since long and its simply SUPERB!!!


Please tell me what you did to make BT voice dial work when the device is closed.

All that happens to me (and some others based on various posts) is I hear the voice prompt, but then nothing happens. This is using the voice dialer that comes with the JJ. If the device is open or in pda mode, BT voice dial works as it should.

[universaldoc]

@atekant,

Well, i didn't have to do anything. I just paired my BT headset with the JJ and recorder a few voice tags. Closed the device, put it into its pouch and fired away BT voice dial! Thats it. It works a treat.

I just need to press the button on the headset which then initiates the VSD program on the device (which i know because i hear the beep on the headset). Once i hear the beep, i just speak out one of the voice tags and it instantly makes the call!!! I am sure that within a month, there will be a WM 5 update for MS Voice command which will make recording voice tags a thing of the past. Can it get any easier???

For your info, i use a SonyEricsson HBH-662 BT headset which supports caller ID and BT 1.2. I can honestly say that i have NO problems whatsoever with it and am one happy camper!!!

[DaleReeck]

I think that those wanting a phone first and a PDA second will be disappointed in the JasJar. Those (like me :) ) wanting a PDA first and phone second, those who want a mini-laptop, will love the JasJar.

I don't want a phone first, but JJ is very awkward to use as a phone.
Although a lot of the problems are because I am carrying it closed. When there is a decent case for it so I can carry it in pda mode, most problems will go away:
- You can't tell who's calling without opening the device, which is a two handed operation. Walking down the street with a bag in one hand you have to stop, put the bag down, take jj out of pocket, open it up to see who's calling, close it back and decide what to do with the call
- You can't call out without opening the device, which is a two handed operation. Walking down the street with a bag in one hand you have to stop, put the bag down, take jj out of pocket, make a call, close it back and continue with the call. Even a BT headset doesn't help, because voice calling doesn't work when jj is closed
- Even as a pda it is awkward to open it to just check something. WM5 is operable with a single hand, but you need two hands to open it. Again, this won't be a problem when there is a decent case that allows us to carry it open.

As I said, I will probably keep the jj and get a phone for daily use.
Or get a K-Jam

Also, having bricked the jj 4 days after I bought it and having to wait for 2 weeks for a rom, while fighting with imate support twice daily took the joy out of it I think.

I agree that a small outer display would have been welcome. But it also shows that how you use a cell phone also determines the JasJar's functionality as a phone. For instance, I never really check the caller ID because I always talk to anyone who calls :) So for me, that isn't an issue but for you it is.

But to be fair, the JasJar isn't my primary phone either. Not because I couldn't use it as such. It's just that my Samsung I730 on Verizon has better coverage and much faster data than GSM on T-Mobile.

[akira]

ALmost sold my mda pro now.
For almost same price as i bought it.

I think i will try the mda III, or just stick to my mda II.
Size does matter ;)

I dont like having a bluetooth brain wave device next to my brain.
I dont like wifi, only when really needed

[d.zee]

You still haven't explained how you switched the Y and Z key :?

[universaldoc]

@akira,

You dont need to have the BT headset on your ear all the time. You can just put it in your pocket and when you receive a call, jus see whoz calling and then take the call. Whole process takes less than 5 second :)

[JaySea]

akira, you have updated the rom with the imate rom. Did you place the original mda pro rom back?
and if yes, How did you do it, cause I want to make it the original again, but cannot seem to find a way to do it.

[tinvek]

With BT voice dial, you never have to actually open the device to make a call. I have been using voice dial since long and its simply SUPERB!!!


Please tell me what you did to make BT voice dial work when the device is closed.

All that happens to me (and some others based on various posts) is I hear the voice prompt, but then nothing happens. This is using the voice dialer that comes with the JJ. If the device is open or in pda mode, BT voice dial works as it should.

what i found you have to be carefull of is that you wait after your headset has connected to hear the execs speak now tone, sort of a bit lower pitch and quieter than most headsets beeps, more a boop :D

im using a bt800 with mine and its fine, but was also able to use my sony headset with it

i was using a p900 before this and apart from the size and the current lack of a decent case, its won me over

having seen pics of 990 not so sure about it, and the mini qwerty keyboard on flip doesnt interest me as i removed flip to make p900 feel a lot more compact and light. hence no upgrading to 910

[dvl]

why sell the mda pro? it is damn great, a mini laptop with phone function. almost like a tabletpc but then mini LOL

works great here, just be careful with what you install. And i am sure there will be a patch out soon which will solve the incompatibilty probs .

I bought mine from a mate who needed the money, for 500 euro's so i doubt it that people on marktplaats will pay more then that LOL

This phone can not be compared to a 320 resolution device!! this is the real deal a 480 resolution device.. with wifi included and gprs hehe. It is a whole new ball game hehe.

And also i noticed that battery life is wayy better then those mda 2 / 3 things, and the way vga themes look wow.. you never wanna go back to those bad res screens LOL

Thumbs up to this great new product!! keep progress going!!

[khaledelfeki]

I think that those wanting a phone first and a PDA second will be disappointed in the JasJar. Those (like me :) ) wanting a PDA first and phone second, those who want a mini-laptop, will love the JasJar.

I agree with you DaleReeck, I'm so happy with my Jasjar as I mostly use it as a lap top not as a phone, using it as a phone is a bit difficult, but using it as a PDA is just wonderful.

I improved the speed of my device alot by making some changes in the extended ROM so that I'm not suffering from anything in my Jasjar any more. In the same time, using Jabra BT 800 makes using Jasjar as a phone is much easier than using it without Jabra BT 800.

Regards,

[khaledelfeki]

With BT voice dial, you never have to actually open the device to make a call. I have been using voice dial since long and its simply SUPERB!!!


Please tell me what you did to make BT voice dial work when the device is closed.

All that happens to me (and some others based on various posts) is I hear the voice prompt, but then nothing happens. This is using the voice dialer that comes with the JJ. If the device is open or in pda mode, BT voice dial works as it should.

Do the following, and this will not only improve the voice dialer, but it will alos improve the speed of the whole device:

Go to start/ settings/ system / power / advanced / and then uncheck the "Turn off device if not used for ........ .", then you can use your device much better and much faster.

Regards,

[SiliconS]

Do the following, and this will not only improve the voice dialer, but it will alos improve the speed of the whole device:

Go to start/ settings/ system / power / advanced / and then uncheck the "Turn off device if not used for ........ .", then you can use your device much better and much faster.

Regards,
Err... won't this leave you with a flat battery? :shock:

[khaledelfeki]

Do the following, and this will not only improve the voice dialer, but it will alos improve the speed of the whole device:

Go to start/ settings/ system / power / advanced / and then uncheck the "Turn off device if not used for ........ .", then you can use your device much better and much faster.

Regards,
Err... won't this leave you with a flat battery? :shock:

Not at all, just you have to set your device to turn off backlight if device is not used for 30 seconds "start / settings / system / backlight ". then you will not be left with a flat battery.

I'm doing the same, and I'm not suffering from any problem with my battery of anything else, I charge my battery once every night and that's it.

Regards,

[psteel]

I've done this too and haven't lost a connection to my blue headset at all..It rings for incoming calls, etc.etc..

Battery doesn't seem to have much of an impact either.