What to do with a camera?

[rottie]

I have recently bought an Alpine , and am really dissapointed. I had a Himalaya and a Blue Angel before and the quality of the photos was better despit the lower resolution!
Is it hardware or software's fault?
If it's software, is it possible to install a different camera application and just add it to start-up instead of the original one?
thx

[clustered]

i agree with you....

[mikesands]

The default settings for the camera on XDA2 is much better than on 2i. You get much nicer looking pics if you change the settings via 'adjust' under tools when the camera is on capture mode to:
Contrast 3
Brightness 3
Aturation 6
Hue 5
sharpness 5
(If anyone knows where the defaults are stored, please shout up, as you lose the new settings if you have to do a soft reset)

You will find that sometimes you need to manually set the light colour (daylight, incandescent etc) rather than leave it set on auto. Changing this setting should not affect the brightness of the captured image - just the colour, but it often does. Also the quality seems to be really poor unless you choose XL for the capture size.

Under reasonable lighting conditions the above settings will produce BETTER pics than the earlier lower res camera, but this is not true in low light conditions - the new one produces very grainy (noisy) images. You can process them to remove most of this but generally it needs a better quality image processing program than you can run on the XDA.

The other big problem I have found is that the new camera finds great difficulty in working out what the exposure should be - sometimes a very ordinary scene is hopelessly overexposed. However, you can fool the camera by briefly pointing it at the sky before framing and snapping your shot.

This carry-on really should not be necessary, and someone ought to produce a software fix.

[rottie]

Thanks a lot, I'll give it a go;)

[Danny-B-]

Another very annoying problem the XDAIIi camera suffers from is the location of which the images and movies are stored,
You will notice that even though you can change the location (Main memory or SD memory) you CANNOT choose the directory.

So you end up with the camera choosing the location, it does this by using the year,month,day-0001 and so on .....

You end up with loads of numbered folers when you would like all images to be put into "My Pictures" for example.

[Danny-B-]

Another very annoying problem the XDAIIi camera suffers from is the location of which the images and movies are stored,
You will notice that even though you can change the location (Main memory or SD memory) you CANNOT choose the directory.

So you end up with the camera choosing the location, it does this by using the year,month,day-0001 and so on .....

You end up with loads of numbered folers when you would like all images to be put into "My Pictures" for example.

[mikesands]

Yes this is really frustrating. I just tried changing the prefix string for this automated file naming. I tried putting /my documents/ in front of the default string but it wouldn't accept it. There must be somewhere in some config file that tells the camera to create a new directory off the root directory. Presumably that could be altered to make it created off the My pics sub directory.

[bxlogic]

i'd love if someone tell us about this cammera problem, is there some software which will change the default one or something?

those options helped alot tho.

Contrast 3
Brightness 3
Aturation 6
Hue 5
sharpness 5


cheers, thanks mike!

[Explodingfist]

There's a registry hack that keeps the default camera settings to your own adjustments even after a soft reset.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/HTC/Camera/AppDefSettings/General
Set Contrast = 3, Brightness = 3, Saturation = 6, Hue = 5,Sharpness = 5

Hope this helps

[rottie]

Heeey! It works! Thanks a lot. Well done! :D

[rottie]

I upgraded my radio yesterday, and those settings were saved even after hard reset!!!That's cool! :D

[shaju]

I feel BA is better than Alpine in speed, steady, camera, Power and many thing. I am sorry for to sell my PDA2K and buy PDA2. Anybody feel sorrow?

[petriks]

my brother have BA, I think that pda2k better than my 2020i...pda2k working faster ...but,i'm buy two weeks later this device,and very glad.

[Aan]

There's a registry hack that keeps the default camera settings to your own adjustments even after a soft reset.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/HTC/Camera/AppDefSettings/General
Set Contrast = 3, Brightness = 3, Saturation = 6, Hue = 5,Sharpness = 5

Hope this helps


Hello, I'm new here and in the matter, so I have to beg your patience.
How do I change the Registry entrance? I have PHM Registry Editor.
Thanks in advance.
Aan.

[rottie]

Just find the right key according to the instructions and then change it accordingly.

[Aan]

Just find the right key according to the instructions and then change it accordingly.

Thanks for the prompt reply. However, and using the PHM, I'm asked to enter a "New Key", or "New: String Value; Binary VAlue; DWORD Value; Multi-String Value; Expandable String Value". Which one?

[pug]

All the camera issues with the 2i were caused by an "update" that the phone companies placed in the extended ROMs. Once this is removed, the problem goes away.

If you want the new extended rom with this "update" removed have a look for a link titled "camera quality sorted?" or something like that.

[Aan]

Just find the right key according to the instructions and then change it accordingly.

Thanks for the prompt reply. However, and using the PHM, I'm asked to enter a "New Key", or "New: String Value; Binary VAlue; DWORD Value; Multi-String Value; Expandable String Value". Which one?

[Aan]

I've made a mistake with the Post.

Thanks Pug I'l have a view later.
BRegards
Aan

[Aan]

I've made a mistake with the Post.

Thanks Pug I'l have a view later.
BRegards
Aan

[pug]

I feel BA is better than Alpine in speed, steady, camera, Power and many thing. I am sorry for to sell my PDA2K and buy PDA2. Anybody feel sorrow?

I originally had a 2s from O2 and swapped it for a 2i because I found the 2s to be too unstable and slow, even after I modified it. I was resetting it 10 times or more a day. My mate got one and he had ecactly the same problems.

The 2i in my opinion, especially since I sorted the camera out, is a much better device and the camera is much better now.

[mikesands]

Just got pointed to this thread and have downloaded Pug's ROM. But before I embark on the (inevitable) 2 or 3 days of getting everything right after a ROM upgrade, have others seen the camera improvement that Pug has seen? I note one poster says that low light pics seem just as bad, and it's definitely this area where the 2i is much worse than the XDA 2.
Mike

[Aan]

@ pug
Thanks again Pug.
I've been reading the "Poor camera quality sorted", and have a few doubts, regarding the Radio v. 1.04.00:
i) Will it affect somehow my Qtek 2020i, since I'm using it with a portuguese operator and don't have XDA2i-O2 device?
ii) After the upgrade, do I have to restore the backup?
iii) And what about the configuration of MMS/GPRS and other stuff?
Thanks once again for the info and the patience.
Aan

[Aan]

@ pug
Thanks again Pug.
I've been reading the "Poor camera quality sorted", and have a few doubts, regarding the Radio v. 1.04.00:
i) Will it affect somehow my Qtek 2020i, since I'm using it with a portuguese operator and don't have XDA2i-O2 device?
ii) After the upgrade, do I have to restore the backup?
iii) And what about the configuration of MMS/GPRS and other stuff?
Thanks once again for the info and the patience.
Aan

[Mr_Smoke]

Hi there,

pug will correct me if I'm wrong but...

@ pug
Thanks again Pug.
I've been reading the "Poor camera quality sorted", and have a few doubts, regarding the Radio v. 1.04.00:
i) Will it affect somehow my Qtek 2020i, since I'm using it with a portuguese operator and don't have XDA2i-O2 device?


XDAIIi and Qtek2020i are actually the same device, with the same hardware. So you won't have problems with the Radio Stack upgrade.
However, you must be aware that the whole system will be in English (don't know about your current ROM).


ii) After the upgrade, do I have to restore the backup?


You CAN restore the "Contacts and Appointments", but you most likely WON'T be able to restore the "All data" backup. In my experience, doing this will result in a very unstable device, if usable at all.


iii) And what about the configuration of MMS/GPRS and other stuff?


You will lose your settings. Better write them down somewhere so that you can restore them later on.

Good luck !

[Aan]

@ Mr Smoke

Thanks for tips and "luck".
I've upgraded for Pug's radio 1.04 only, restore all the backup and seems to work perfectly, so probably the unstability will verify with ExtRom?
Thanks again.

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