KJAM ROM on 9100 !!!!

[Grill Oven]

yes this is real.

The KJAM rom, which can be found in the FTP of this site, is working on the Qtek9100 !!!

does anyone have any thoughts about that? is this ROM a better one than the 9100? I think it is!

[dalewinterstein]

From what I understand, The KJAM is slower with its rom then the QTEK. Because KJAM is full of apps which might not be needed. Once those apps are removed it should be exactly the same ( are the rom version numbers not the same )
ANyone have any views on this ?

[BeyondtheTech]

I believe the ROM dates are different, with the K-JAM being 9/16/2005 and the Qtek at 9/22/2005. I don't know the difference between the two, but I'd be interested to find out. Also, I'm still trying to find out how to change the splash screens (HTC, then i-mate) when it boots, but it's different than previous HTC models so far (not splash?.nb).

As for the apps, the difference does lie in the Extended ROM, so once you've custom-tailored that area, they should be identical.

HOWEVER, people on HowardForums are complaining about the Bluetooth in the 9100, where K-JAM users don't seem to be having an issue. I didn't check up further on this, can anyone confirm?

[ID64]

Would yo umind sharing information about details? How to avoid device ID error? IS there hacked exe file? I need to flash my QTEK with IMATE ROM since I think BT performance in IMATE is way better.


TIA

[vbguru613]

bt on the qtek smells

[ID64]

Grill! Wake up and give us a clue,please! :D

[mitchello]

I did the soft reset after the WM5 setup so that the crap wouldn't install and it works great :D

[vbguru613]

so what did you do?

imate rom on a qtek???

[gerald01]

i got a vender error when try to install the k-mate rom on my qtek 9100. what´s the trick, that it work without the error? please help!

[vbguru613]

nice we have to get around that.

[BeyondtheTech]

Anyone try to place the Wizard in bootloader mode first before running the upgrade utility?

If someone can point me out to the Magician upgrade utility with the NoID hack and give me the original file as well, I might be able to do a byte-compare and apply it to the Wizard's upgrade utility.

[pimbo]

If someone can point me out to the Magician upgrade utility with the NoID hack and give me the original file as well, I might be able to do a byte-compare and apply it to the Wizard's upgrade utility.

This one? ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/Tools/MaUpgradeUt_noID.zip
from here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_1.42.00_Upgrade

[thebiker]

If someone can point me out to the Magician upgrade utility with the NoID hack and give me the original file as well, I might be able to do a byte-compare and apply it to the Wizard's upgrade utility.

This one? ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/Tools/MaUpgradeUt_noID.zip
from here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_1.42.00_Upgrade

Hi,

I don't think this is the good way because I unpacked the "KJAM_WWE_ROM_1010903_104_10110_cdl_wwe_ship.exe" (rename to rar)
and I've foud the following files:

EnterBootLoader.exe
nk.nbf (74 MB)
README.doc
ROMUpdateUtility.exe
RUUGetInfo.exe
RUUResource.dll

I don't know which file have to change to "MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe".

Any idea?

THX

TB

[BeyondtheTech]

Again, if I can find out how the NoID utility bypasses the check by comparing it with the original (does anyone have the exact file before it was hacked?), and we can compare, it'll be a start to look for similar code or text in the EXEs or DLLs of K-JAM's upgrade utility.

Find me the unmodified version of the NoID utility. Look on the FTP, and check all the other Blue Angel ROM update utility's EXE files...

[pimbo]

"KJAM_WWE_ROM_1010903_104_10110_cdl_wwe_ship.exe" (rename to rar)
and I've foud the following files:

Well
EnterBootLoader.exe
nk.nbf (74 MB)
README.doc
ROMUpdateUtility.exe
RUUGetInfo.exe
RUUResource.dll



Looks to me that somebody who knows howto and has this phone for testing could to edit the The ROMUpdateUtility.exe to bypass the country id errors,
And use as refference maybe the hacked no id loader for the BA.

P.s. the original MA upgrade utility should be found in the original roms from the providers of the Magician devices, we got it from them if i'm right.

Hope it helpes a bit,

[Paragon]

I'm no developer, but this file sticks out in my mind..."RUUGetInfo.exe" If that is part of the upgrade installer then it looks to me that it is looking for the actual device ID, and it probably has to fall within a certain range to allow the upgrade to proceed. Something to the effect that each country, language or brand has a range. If your device isn't in that range, you are SOL.

With each generation they do something different, and more difficult.

Dave

[vbguru613]

i think it has to be in the ROM if not then all we have to wait for is a update from qtek and switch the nkf file

[Paragon]

i think it has to be in the ROM if not then all we have to wait for is a update from qtek and switch the nkf file

Nah, it's Much more involved than that. Just look at the process taken to develop the method to do it on the JAM, PDA2K, and so on. With each generation they make it more difficult.

[Dubi]

I had under my hands the Dopod 838 which is infact the cH version of the WIZARD.
I would like to load the imate K-Jam rom to the Dopod

Playing a bit with the machine, it seems that the Boot loader is actually looks like the Typhoon, the TyphoonNBFTools utility will decode the NK.NBF file but I am not sure what is the Vendor ID of the Dopod.
On top of it after altering the Languge from English to WWE and made the vendor DOPOD, the romupgrade utility reports the new version going to Prodigy and the Lang is English. it seems that although the TyphoonNBFTools was able to decode the NK.NBF, the upgrade application did not take the header information.

I did run also the Boot loader command under the MTTY (on the usb port) and command that did work for the typhoon "R2ds all" responded that I do not have the authority to dump the rom image.

Tried the command password WIZARD and although it did take it, still was not authorized to dump the rom image.

If somebody could help find a method to bypass the protection of rom , upgrade (bypass vendor , Country code...) it would be very helpfull to exchange roms.

[pimbo]

:shock:

I've been playing with the ROMUpdateUtility.exe

Well, i've also noticed that the rom is like a typhoon rom.

Ive removed some strings to RUUGetInfo.exe(since this one seems to do the thing), but i cannot test it,
I got error 222, device not responding, (DUH, its a BA :lol:)

Maybe somebody can replace this file for the original in the folder and try running it. (if it passes the country id and the model no)

But it is a test, use at your own risk.
Do not blame me for anything.

[Jainoxi]

I will test the tool, since my Wizard is dead anyway :D

--Edit:
My T-Mobile MDA Vario (the Wizard) still recieves a Vendor ID Error (294), when trying to update with the KJAM_WWE_ROM_1010903_104_10110_cdl_wwe_ship ROM...

[pimbo]

hmm,

Last i could think of is the dll, so modded this one to,

RUUGetInfo.exe looks like nothing is in exept 8kb of ???, i cant make anything out of there. secured??

So if this dll does not work in combination with the no id testfile i dont know nothing else., :cry:
sorry,

[Jainoxi]

I'll give it a try! Thanks!

The updater takes me one step further along the line, but eventually still gives me the 294 :(

[Dubi]

On the FTP there is a file which is sd dump of the Kjam WWE :
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/KJAM/kjam wwe.rar. This is a dump of the wwe kjam rom . you can use ntrw to write the file on an sd and than try to boot from the sd. On Dopod 838 it does not allow to load the OS into the machine. I assume that a password is required.
Another possibility is to change the boot loader which I do not know how. There have been some tools for the typhoon to manipulate the boot I am not sure it works here (K jam).

[mitchello]

Jainoxi, how did you kill your Wizard?

[panzhuo]

Can i change O2 XDA mini s (German)to Chinese/English?
I from China ,Mine is German one ,but i wanna change to English or Chinese(T) ,who can tell me how to change,or give me a link to download English one or Dopod 838 one , thanks!!!!

[kpence73]

It doesnt appear to be the RUUGetInfo.exe file that checks for the Vendor ID. Just to check that out, I tried what someone suggested by just switching the Qtek nk file for the Kjam one. I still got the Vendor ID error even with all the qtek files (except nk). So there must be something in the nk file that is stopping the update.

[kpence73]

:shock:

I've been playing with the ROMUpdateUtility.exe

Well, i've also noticed that the rom is like a typhoon rom.

Ive removed some strings to RUUGetInfo.exe(since this one seems to do the thing), but i cannot test it,
I got error 222, device not responding, (DUH, its a BA :lol:)

Maybe somebody can replace this file for the original in the folder and try running it. (if it passes the country id and the model no)

But it is a test, use at your own risk.
Do not blame me for anything.


Didnt work. Still got Vendor ID error, even when I used the .dll file you also altered.

[kpence73]

Anyone try to place the Wizard in bootloader mode first before running the upgrade utility?


Tried that...didnt work....Error 294 Vendor ID

[lutzh]

folks, get your bootloader automatically changed by unlocking your device at imei-check.co.uk (even if your device is not locked!!!), then download the k-jam rom from imate.com and install it like you install any given rom. simple, eh?

cheers, lutz

[Erik_]

I've tried installing the KJAM ROM on my Qtek 9100 bought at Expansys. I got the Vendor ID. So I dug a bit deeper and found a Qtek 9100 ROM on the http://beyondthetech.com/blogs/kjam pages.
http://www.beyondthetech.com/downloads/phone/Qtek_9100_RUU_Prodigy_10107105_Qtek_WWE_ship.exe

Yet I still have the Vendor ID issue while trying to load this WWE Rom on my Qtek 9100 FRE.

[Sky_Lab]

I've tried installing the KJAM ROM on my Qtek 9100 bought at Expansys. I got the Vendor ID. So I dug a bit deeper and found a Qtek 9100 ROM on the http://beyondthetech.com/blogs/kjam pages.
http://www.beyondthetech.com/downloads/phone/Qtek_9100_RUU_Prodigy_10107105_Qtek_WWE_ship.exe

Yet I still have the Vendor ID issue while trying to load this WWE Rom on my Qtek 9100 FRE.

There is the italian language in the ROM?

Ciauzz
Sky_Lab

[kpence73]

folks, get your bootloader automatically changed by unlocking your device at imei-check.co.uk (even if your device is not locked!!!), then download the k-jam rom from imate.com and install it like you install any given rom. simple, eh?

cheers, lutz

And you have tried this and it works?

[lutzh]

yes, i would not tell you how it works if i wouldn't have done it!

cheers, lutz

[Erik_]

I've unlocked my Qtek 9100 with the imei-check site. That removes the VendorID/CountryID, which then allows my attempt to backup my ROM and upgrade to another rooms.

I've not been able to downgrade from the qtek 9100 Rom 1.1.7.8 FRE, Radio 1.04.10, ExtRom 1.1.7.110 to the Qtek_9100_RUU_Prodigy_10107105_Qtek_WWE_ship.exe. The upgrade processes stays at 99% (red color). And rebooting (after even 15 minutes) immediately sends me back to the bootloader (ipl 1.01/spl 1.01). [check update-note at bottom of this post]

Trying now the kjam rom. I'm getting at least 100% before the upgrade process bar turns red. I waited 10 minutes, cycled the power (battery out), then waited another 5 minutes before I got the i-mate bootlogo.


[updated on 15 November 2005]
I have indeed installed the KJAM rom on my Qtek 9100. It works well so far. I'm sorry to be late with the confirmation, but I wanted to make sure all was well, and I finished working on it at at 3am.


[updated on 22 November 2005]
I've updated my Qtek 9100 to the new KJAM rom that shipped a few days ago (kjam_www_1010903_106_10110_ship.exe located in ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Wizard/ ). This seems to upgrade the spl to 1.06. If I more info, I'll update this post.


[upgrade-note]While uploading the new rom, I saw that the upload status bar turned red once or twice. around 85%, later at 95% and at 100%. While it might turn red, and seem to stop for a while, it continuted onwards.

[kpence73]

I've unlocked my Qtek 9100 with the imei-check site. That removes the VendorID/CountryID, which then allows my attempt to backup my ROM and upgrade to another rooms.

I've not been able to downgrade from the qtek 9100 Rom 1.1.7.8 FRE, Radio 1.04.10, ExtRom 1.1.7.110 to the Qtek_9100_RUU_Prodigy_10107105_Qtek_WWE_ship.exe. The upgrade processes stays at 99% (red color). And rebooting (after even 15 minutes) immediately sends me back to the bootloader (ipl 1.01/spl 1.01).

Trying now the kjam rom. I'm getting at least 100% before the upgrade process bar turns red. I waited 10 minutes, cycled the power (battery out), then waited another 5 minutes before I got the i-mate bootlogo.

Is your 9100 now working on the kjam rom? the way you described your flash with the kjam rom, it is still having problems. can you clarify that?

[fisico]

I've tried installing the KJAM ROM on my Qtek 9100 bought at Expansys. I got the Vendor ID. So I dug a bit deeper and found a Qtek 9100 ROM on the http://beyondthetech.com/blogs/kjam pages.
http://www.beyondthetech.com/downloads/phone/Qtek_9100_RUU_Prodigy_10107105_Qtek_WWE_ship.exe

Yet I still have the Vendor ID issue while trying to load this WWE Rom on my Qtek 9100 FRE.

I can install these rom for unlock my Mda Vario (T-Mobile) ?

[Erik_]

Is your 9100 now working on the kjam rom? the way you described your flash with the kjam rom, it is still having problems. can you clarify that?
Yes Kpence73 I've got the KJAM rom working on my Qtek 9100 now. I got a bit scared, because I could not install the other qtek wwe rom I mentioned earlier.

[kpence73]

how odd...you would think that once you unlocked the phone and you were able to install the KJAM rom, you would be able to also install the Qtek rom regardless of the version. I guess that means once you upgrade, you can't go back to a previous version.

How is the KJAM rom working on the phone as opposed to the original qtek rom?

[Erik_]

The main reason for wanting to change the ROM, was a language issue. I bought the french version in my country as it was 240 Euros cheaper than the same device, but with the WWE edition. That was way to much in my eyes.
I tried first moving to the WWE edition, but it was a down grade on the ROM, Radio and ExtRom.
I'm happy with my new setup with the KJAM rom. Performance seems good.
Only issues I found so far on Wizard/WM5 are :
- EasySync Pro 4.2.3 doesn't work anymore (it's a Lotus Notes synchronisation tool).
- There is no xBackup tool to import my Magician/WM2003se backup of contacts/calendar.

[glozovsky]

to download the imate rom, you have to be sign up to the site....how do you do that with a qtek imei number? the site demands an imate one.

Is there another site that offers this rom?

[BeyondtheTech]

I have it mirrored.

http://www.beyondthetech.com/downloads/phone/K-JAM_WWE_1010903_106_10110_ship.exe

Link will be active in 5 minutes of this post. Be patient.

[glozovsky]

whenever i try to run the file, it tells me that the file cannot be unpacked and/or as become corrupted (tried on 2 different computers).... :(

i have redownloaded it and received the same error.... :(

any ideas?

Thanks in advance for your help!

[fbriolini]

whenever i try to run the file, it tells me that the file cannot be unpacked and/or as become corrupted (tried on 2 different computers).... :(

i have redownloaded it and received the same error.... :(

any ideas?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Guys, maybe you don't know, but you can connect via anonymous ftp at ftp.clubimate.com and download from there all the Imate ROMs you want.

F.

[mack]

i want to change my qtek to kjam rom...but Erik_ stated that you couldnt revert back to qtek rom....i am scared of warrenty.....would they still fix it if i have different rom?....i'm pretty sure they wont...

can someone else try flashing to kjam and then back to qtek???

[manhattan]

see my second post in the "spontanous reset" thread...

[dju]

qtek 9100 FR rom 1.1.78 / radi0 1.4.10 / ext rom 1.1.7.110 with azerty kerboard bought from sv2i.com

I've also unlocked my Qtek 9100 with the imei-check site
I've used rom K-JAM_WWE_1010903_106_10110_ship
work well
and after
i've used rom Qtek_9100_RUU_Prodigy_10107105_Qtek_WWE_ship
work well also
but i 've lost my french os, not a matter , and the azerty keyboard

i search a solution to use correctly my french azerty keyboard ?

[Erik_]

i want to change my qtek to kjam rom...but Erik_ stated that you couldnt revert back to qtek rom...

Not exactly true. I said I could not downgrade from a Qtek 9100 Rom 1.1.7.8 FRE, Radio 1.04.10, ExtRom 1.1.7.110 to the Qtek_9100_RUU_Prodigy_10107105_Qtek_WWE_ship.exe directly.
I have not tried to change from the K-JAM_WWE_1010903_104_10110_ship.exe to the Qtek_9100_RUU_Prodigy_10107105_Qtek_WWE_ship.exe

[elchampionet]

Erik Can you put the steps for changing the MDA Vario rom to Kjam wwe rom?

Thank you in advance

[Erik_]

First you need to unlock your device with the imei-check from http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php

It's not only a sim-unlocker, it removes the country-id/operator-id which means you can then make a dump of your rom or upgrade your rom with another rom like the k-jam or the qtek found in the ftp server.

[piernic]

Hello,

I'm really interested in buying a QTEK 9100. The problem is in Belgium, it cost nearly 700€, and in Germany we can find it for 450€...
Is it possible to change language from GERMAN to FRENCH quite easily ?

How ?

Let me know,

Regards,

Pierre

[Heijdemann]

Hello,

I'm really interested in buying a QTEK 9100. The problem is in Belgium, it cost nearly 700€, and in Germany we can find it for 450€...
Is it possible to change language from GERMAN to FRENCH quite easily ?

How ?

Let me know,

Regards,

Pierre

The problem is not to change the ROM to French but you still have the German keyboard then.

[xfyre]

Anyone who succeeded with installing K-JAM ROM on Qtek 9100? Could you tell if it actually works better than original Qtek ROM? And what in particular is working better?

[hrb]

Anyone who succeeded with installing K-JAM ROM on Qtek 9100? Could you tell if it actually works better than original Qtek ROM? And what in particular is working better?

I have a K-JAM and flashed it with the QTEK ROM because I think it's the better ROM.
Cheers
hrb

[sabesh]

Anyone who succeeded with installing K-JAM ROM on Qtek 9100? Could you tell if it actually works better than original Qtek ROM? And what in particular is working better?
I've tried the latest K-Jam ROM (1.1.9.3) and the Qtek ROM (1.1.7.5) on my Qtek 9100. I don't notice any practical difference in performance at all. Here are the benchmarks results :arrow:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=808098

Cheers, Sabesh.

[mcalbala]

my qtek 9100 shipped with a much newer rom than either of these

[cargo]

my qtek 9100 shipped with a much newer rom than either of these

Can you tell us version of your qtek 9100 rom? Can be great also to have download link to official upgrade utility from qtek for 9100 .. :roll:

[marcuss]

I have ROM-version: 1.3.7.13 SVE in my QTEK 9100 that I bought two days ago. Is that the same ROM indicator that you're talking about?

[cargo]

I have ROM-version: 1.3.7.13 SVE in my QTEK 9100 that I bought two days ago. Is that the same ROM indicator that you're talking about?

Actually you have Sweden ROM... Can you tell me all the Device information (Start->Settings)?

[marcuss]

I have ROM-version: 1.3.7.13 SVE in my QTEK 9100 that I bought two days ago. Is that the same ROM indicator that you're talking about?

Actually you have Sweden ROM... Can you tell me all the Device information (Start->Settings)?

Yeah, that's correct, I'm living in Sweden and my OS is in Swedish.

QTEK 9100 (Model nr: WIZA200)
ROM-version: 1.3.7.13 SVE
ROM-date: 9/29/05
Radio version: 01.04.10
Protocol version: 4.0.13.17
ExtROM-version: 1.3.7.125

[cargo]

...Yeah, that's correct, I'm living in Sweden and my OS is in Swedish.

QTEK 9100 (Model nr: WIZA200)
ROM-version: 1.3.7.13 SVE
ROM-date: 9/29/05
Radio version: 01.04.10
Protocol version: 4.0.13.17
ExtROM-version: 1.3.7.125

I am thinking, here exist newer ROM update.. but not Swedish one.. ;-)

[cshields1]

Anyone who succeeded with installing K-JAM ROM on Qtek 9100? Could you tell if it actually works better than original Qtek ROM? And what in particular is working better?
I've tried the latest K-Jam ROM (1.1.9.3) and the Qtek ROM (1.1.7.5) on my Qtek 9100. I don't notice any practical difference in performance at all. Here are the benchmarks results :arrow:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=808098

Cheers, Sabesh.
Freakin awesome! A guy with data ... that's what I'm talking about. It's nice to see contributions in this forum and not just language of affection.
Gudus to you, it helps us all,
Craig

[HectorV]

I also flashed my K-Jam with the latest Qtek ROM (1.6.7.1), it feels better than the i-mate one. Don't know if this is a psychological thing, e.g. the grass is always greener on the other side.... at least the Qtek splash screen is way better than the dull i-mate one.

[Zapp]

Hi, just bought a Qtek 9100 here in Italy today. This is the ROM version:

ROM : 1.3.7.16 ITA
Data Rom : 10/24/05
Radio : 01.04.10
Protocol : 4.0.13.17
ExtROM : 1.3.7.107

Now I was looking if there are newer fw on Qtek site but I can not register with this IMEI... Is this the last fw? Are there any 'best' fw you can suggest to put in my 9100?

Thanks, Alex (Italy)

[jeamado]

Works the other way around.
I now have a K-jam device, which was shipped with its ROM in English language, now running the last Qtek 9100 ROM in Spanish language.
imei-check.co.uk worked fine.