Blackberry Connect on Wizard?

[saldous]

Does anyone have this working yet?

[Wiz]

Currently no WM5 BB clients are available to the public yet. My gut feeling is not before january 2006.

[edsub]

there were BBConnect clients for the late Himalaya ROM's (O2 issued them). Doesnt those work?

[Wiz]

No, WM2003SE BB clients do not install on WM5 devices, they will detect the wrong Operating System and refuse to install.

[a18041967]

Just to clarify the BB Client attempts to install on WM2005, the problem is that the BB software changes critical OS level files, and because the software is not signed its the operating systems that rejects the installation....otherwise it would install.

[BeyondtheTech]

Did you try shutting off the digital signature check on your Wizard?

Details on how to do that are on my blog, October archives.

[Wiz]

Yes, and I have a hunch that it is actually the script that rejects after an OS check. The error message is: unable to install. Uncertified system software detected (which indicates that WM5 is not accepted as target OS)

[edsub]

This is caused by the install script in the BBclient package rather than the Wizard's OS. This was reported before on non-O2 devices.
There was a trick to bypass that however. It should be somewhere in the xda-developer Himalaya threads. the BBConnect clinet was delivered in ROM version 1.92, issues by O2.

[Koksie]

I have the BBConnect cab that was integrated in the latest T-Mobile MDA Compact ROm, if anyone sees any use for it. I have not tried it, on my Vario, since i figured it would not work. But if anyone needs it, just post here.

[AlexL]

Hey Guys,

It has been a while for this thread. Was just wondering if anyone had heard anything new or perhaps a timeline for BBConnect on WM 5.

Cheers :arrow:

[ScottC]

Bumparoo... Anyone seen a client that'll install on the Wizard?

[q-biq]

blackberry is out, we stopped sell blackberry subscriptions a few days ago / workin at vodafone :)

[JoninLA]

Just bumping this one as now that RIM's settled down I was wondering if anyone has heard of any news on BB connect for WM5

[alyg]

Yes, any news? It'll be wonderful if there is one now!!


Just bumping this one as now that RIM's settled down I was wondering if anyone has heard of any news on BB connect for WM5

[DREAMBOXER]

T-Mobile Germany released a BB Client Software!

I am not sure if they are offering it somewhere else or if this can be used with every wizard.

I did not install it ( no need for it ) so I cannot tell you if its only German or Multilanguage

You may download it right here:
https://after-sales-service.t-mobile.de/eg_online/t-mobile/t_mda_vario.htm

[squiggs1982]

Installs in English! :D

[JoninLA]

I don't suppose anyone has a copy of the instructions in English? Would hate to work my way through the pdf for days and find someone has one handy....

[jurnaza]

Installs in English! :D

I attempted to install it on my unlocked 8125 and I get the message "Unable to install. Uncertified system software detected."

J

[squiggs1982]

Odd. I'm running it on a xda mini s with the qtek rom, installed like a dream and in English.

[jkossowsky]

Can someone please post this file here as I cannot seem to download it from the t-mobile.de site.

thanks

[jurnaza]

Odd. I'm running it on a xda mini s with the qtek rom, installed like a dream and in English.

Are you running AKU2? What model no. does the xda mini s report? The 8125 gets reported as WIZA100 to WM5?

I am running ROM 1.8.11.1 WWE & Radio 1.9.11.

J

[lyallb]

Can someone please post this file here as I cannot seem to download it from the t-mobile.de site.

thanks

[TFW_Primus]

Does anyone have this running? Would I have to sign up for T-Mobile's(my carrier) BB service for it to work? I imagine so.

[Alex310]

Here is where I stand right now. I have successfully installed the client onto my Vario. I have also installed the Blackberry desktop software for Pocket PC to my computer and have synced the PINs with each other. I have a request into my corporate IT dept to make sure I am still asscoiated with out BB server from my BB wielding days but I am sure I probably am. I have changed my service at T-Mobile to include the BB add-on and they are showing me as active. And finally I have changed my GPRS settings to blackberry.net.

However, have yet to get the Vario client to register with the service. I believe that this is due to the lag of RIM turning on my account on their end. If I remember correctly with me 7290 this took some time. So Ill give it some time and see how it turns out. Not sure if I will stick with this solution since there were some shortcomings I had issues with when I used a blackberry put it will be nice to be able to shut down my computer instead of using the redirector from Intellisync.

a

[edsub]

I uploaded all three interesting files to the FTP

13-04-2006 moved files to safe area on FTP

ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Blackberry/

Manual (pdf in german) -> mdavario_bda_sw_bb_03-2006.pdf

BB Connect client -> BBConnect_PocketPC_TMO_DE_2.1.1.20.cab

BB Connect activesync add-on -> ActiveSync_BBConnect_Desktop_Setup_2.1.0.16.exe

@Alex310: PLZ keep us updated on this. I am planning to join a BB plan in my company but as they only supply BB devices, I will have to figure it out myself on the Wizard (dont want to have a 2nd device!). One first question: My device is a MDA vario (unlocked) and using a dual SIM adapter on T-Mobile and Vodafone. I will only use BB Connect when on Vodafone (business subscription). Are there any T-Mobile settings (hardcoded) in the BB Connect client that would make this impossible?

[alyg]

Thanks.

I've downloaded the files but haven't got the guts to install it yet. If it doesn't work, is it as easy to uninstall the program without screwing up anything?

I've a QTEK 9100.

[Alex310]

Uninstalling it is easy just remove programs, but as I am finding out setting it up once it is installed is being a challenge. Especially when your local T-Mobile BB tech support people are clueless as to how I got this on my device. The lady just broke down and told me to call RIM directly.

[guru1982]

I was able to install the bb connect on my MDA. But doesn't look like it will be able to work in the US because APN and IP settings are defined by the program, and I couldn't find a way to change the settings with the proper one, funny part was I got a message saying your device has been registered with the network, but after that it disconnected and wouldn't connect again.

[alyg]

I installed it and there was an error msg but I click ok and it was technically installed. I can see it in the remove program. However, I can't find the button to click to configure.

Anyone can help?

---------------
QTEK 9100

[edsub]

....But doesn't look like it will be able to work in the US because APN and IP settings are defined by the program,.....

This looks quite crucial to me as I will be using BB via the Vodafone (NL) network and they for sure wont know the T-Mobile (D) APN and IP numbers.

This should also indicate that everyone on 'a' T-mobile network can use this client (assumed that all T-mobile apn's give access to each other's networks wich is reasonable because of normal roaming facilities)

[ojan]

Hi guys,
In order to get a proper APN and IP, make sure that:
1- You select "Blackberry solutions" and not "Instant Email with BlackBerry"
2- You use the client software to sync everything.

This was the way it worked on BlueAngel
Hope this help ( I don t have a BB Subscription at the moment)

[edsub]

I installed it and there was an error msg but I click ok and it was technically installed. I can see it in the remove program. However, I can't find the button to click to configure.


Start BBsettings.exe in \windows. Seems that it will only get visible in menu's once you have completed that one and I havent because I do not have a BB subscription at the moment.

[tonyb15re]

I have it installed on my Universal, I also have a subscription through Vodafone... It will not connect and set the PIN/obtain an IP address, I beleive it is reliant on RIM allocating this based upon the IMEI of the phone, if the phone wasnt provided with a BBConnect subscription assigned theres a good chance it wont work allegedly

[Sleuth255]

We have a BES and I have a very special Cingular SIM with Blackberry services that I routinely swap between different BB devices to test functionality. Therefore, I should be able to test this software by popping that SIM into my 8125. One question first tho: Is the software Locale aware? IOW will it install an English version onto my desktop? I'm just asking because the installer fired up in German.

[jurnaza]

We have a BES and I have a very special Cingular SIM with Blackberry services that I routinely swap between different BB devices to test functionality. Therefore, I should be able to test this software by popping that SIM into my 8125. One question first tho: Is the software Locale aware? IOW will it install an English version onto my desktop? I'm just asking because the installer fired up in German.

Sleuth255,

Please let us know if you are able to install this software on your Cingular 8125. I receive an error and have been unable to install it on the default Cingular ROM.

J

[Sleuth255]

I'm using the Qtek AKU2 Rom in my 8125 currently so I don't think I can be much help... Sorry.

[jurnaza]

I'm using the Qtek AKU2 Rom in my 8125 currently so I don't think I can be much help... Sorry.

Sleuth255,

Does it install on the AKU2 ROM? I am trying to determine if it is the Cingular ROM that is causing the problem or the 8125....

Thanks,
J

[JoninLA]

It installs fine on the QTEk 1.6.7.1 ROM though that doesn't mean I have actually got it configured anw working yet....!

[edsub]

We have a BES and I have a very special Cingular SIM with Blackberry services that I routinely swap between different BB devices to test functionality. Therefore, I should be able to test this software by popping that SIM into my 8125. One question first tho: Is the software Locale aware? IOW will it install an English version onto my desktop? I'm just asking because the installer fired up in German.

software is locale aware. I installed on my wwe aku2 rom (qtek test) and on the wizard it is all english fortunately.
would very much like to know if it works with bb service on a non t-mobile sim/network.

[jurnaza]

It installs fine on the QTEk 1.6.7.1 ROM though that doesn't mean I have actually got it configured anw working yet....!

Just to confirm with everyone this software will not install on a Cingular 8125 with both the Cingular default ROM & the iMate AKU2 ROM.

[Sleuth255]

On Qtek 2.17 AKU2.0 rom, I get "Unable to install. Uncertified system software detected". Pressing ok gives me the unsuccessfull installation dialog :(

[edsub]

I checked some of the dll's in the cab.
It tests against both os version and hardware. Not sure where it gets the hardware id from, but maybe a T-Mobile Wizard can be distinguished from a Cingular one apart from the rom running on it.
I was able to install on a T-Mobile MDA Vario running WM5 AKU2 (2.8.7.1) Qtek rom.

[alyg]

I installed it quite successfully except at the end of the installation., there was an error msg stating the installer module can't be loaded, but when I click ok, it says I 've successfully installed it.

I did not get the option to install Blackberry enterprise mail, it just installed the Internet Blackberry mail module. When I clcik on the .exe, it just hangs there.

I've uninstalled everything until someone has been successful in getting it to work on a qtek9100..

[sting0r]

Anyone get this working? I am about to run out to buy a Tmobile MDA in the US, so I can use it...this is what I have been waiting for...

[hypermaster]

i'm waiting for the bb client to work perfectly myself. once i know it works, i will go ahead & buy the imtae k-jam, instead of the blackberry 8700g.

the only thing is that i just hope that with it tha battery life will be atleast one day full? from morning 8am till night 10pm with GPRS always ON & about 15-20sms's & a few calls.

anyways lets see how that goes....

i once had a o2 mini which my friend game me to install the latest tmobile rom on it. i did & i was surprised to see the blackberry connect software on it. i quickly put in my & registered & it registered. i even received one to 2 mails beofre i had to give it back... but when i used to open the mail it was blank. maybe not configured properly.?? did not have enough time to play around with it.
In India AIRTEL supports blackberry for Nokia 9500/Nokia 9300 & SE P910i only as of now.. could this be the problem??

As far as the PIN being based on the IMEI problem goes, does'nt the SE P910i also do the same? If so, then by the same logic the imake K-jam should also work, if installed properly, dont u think?

Any thoughts?

[guru1982]

Hypermaster, it looks like its little different with the k-jam because with the p910 you were able to adjust the apn and ip settings to get it to work. I have the T-Mobile MDA US with the 2.16.9 rom and everything installed fine, but can't get it to work because apn and ip settings are set by the program. and yes i do hav the BB subscribtion.

[hypermaster]

thanks guru, but i have tried it on a P910i & i did no setting for the APN or IP, i just let it pick whatever it did automatically.
I noticed that it picked up the APN as blackberry.net & IP was assigned automatically, i did not assign anything.

[alyg]

it's interesting how difficult the manufacturers and telecomms make it for us to have BB connectivity. I think no one would buy a BB handset anymore if they make it work!!

[hyper]

of course people would.
1. Much Better Battery Life, especially while ur travelling.
2. BB services on windows can crash due to some other sofwtare problems.. BB handsets are rock solid
3. BB is the best sync i have seen in any phone so far.
4. Ease of use of a BB, simple & easy to use.
5. Better Security for corporates.
6. PIN Messanging :D
7. I personally love the Track Wheel

I only think that the BB's are tooooooo OVER PRICED. i'm sure lots of people thinnk that too..

Anyways we're moving away from the topic.

I should be getting my O2 MiniS today hopefully & i shall try it then.
It has to work.. does not make sense !!!
What could be the problem?
You have the client.. should work, unless the network can detect the hardware ur running, it should act as the same software like the P910i???

[Wiz]

FYI The Vario BB Connect add on also works on Universal type devices. See my post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=253656#253656

I successfully installed and configured the recently published BB Connect program onto my Universal. T-Mobil Germany officially came out with the BB Connect add-on a few days back, and it turns out it actually is dual-platform-aware, Wizard and Universal.

It can be downloaded at ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/HTC_Wizard/BB%20Connect/mdavario_sw_bb_03-2006.zip

There is one *but* though. Until now, I only got it to work on TMO-UKs 1.20 MDA PRO ROM, but my suspicion is that it actually has something to do with the radio version. BB Connect works flawlessly on radio versions 1.06 and below (I saw similar behaviour on the Blue Angel devices where radio versions beyond 1.13 could not made to work with BB Connect).

Anyway, although initially I could not get it to work with the Jasjar 1.20 rom, I must say I did use the 1.09 radio. I will be re-installing the Jasjar rom later today, this time with radio version 1.06 and report back on the results.

(While I was writing this, I heard my "T-Mobilized O2 XDA Exec" happily signalling the arrival of new mail :-))

[Puckster]

the only thing is that i just hope that with it tha battery life will be atleast one day full? from morning 8am till night 10pm with GPRS always ON & about 15-20sms's & a few calls.
I'm not a BB user so i cant be of any help there but as far as battery life goes i have a k-jam (2.16 rom) with bluetooth on (non discoverable mode), gprs always on (using push Exchange mail), and send / recieve several calls & sms's every day.

An average day for me is 8am - 12am and i regularly have 40% - 50% charge remaining when i plug the charger in before i goto bed. I have occassionally gone for two full days without charge as well.

Cheers

[Wiz]

of course people would.
1. Much Better Battery Life, especially while ur travelling.
2. BB services on windows can crash due to some other sofwtare problems.. BB handsets are rock solid
3. BB is the best sync i have seen in any phone so far.
4. Ease of use of a BB, simple & easy to use.
5. Better Security for corporates.
6. PIN Messanging :D
7. I personally love the Track Wheel


I am not sure if I agree with part of what you're saying in two of your points:

2. BB services on windows can crash due to some other sofwtare problems.. BB handsets are rock solid

I have been using the BB Connect client on my Vario, my XDA IIs and my XDA Exec. On all of them the service has proved to be rock-stable.

5. Better Security for corporates.

Anything that communicates wirelessly should be considered a risk, BB and WM devices alike.

In addition to that, my WM devices still beat my Blackberry hands down due to the fact that *in addition* to BB functionality, a WM device at least until now lets me edit project plans, spreadsheets, word documents, listen to the radio, play MP3 etc. BB are still playing catch up there. For me, the trade-offs versus benefits still make me choose WM devices I'm afraid.

[wawibu]

I have a problem with the BB-Client.
I've installed the client on different ROM-Images and get allways the problem. After the installation of the client I shut down the wizard and power it on again. Then set up the BB-Client and the connection will be establish. So the BB-Client works fine. But when I then shut down and power on the wizard the client wouldn't reconnet.
The service startet with the folloing status:
1.) not connected
2.) network available
3.) data tunnel available
4.) not connected

Any idea?

[JoninLA]

I just have to ask as I have been trawling this forum; has anyone actually got BB connect working with a Blackberry Enterprise Server (preferably on tmobile in the USA) using these cab files? If they have I'd really like to know which ROM version they are using. We've tried a number of ROMs and the cab's and it always seems to get to the fully installed but not connected scenario and thats the end of it.

[betstu2004]

Installed successfully on i-mate K-Jam with latest ROM and managed to sync once with the desktop. It even managed to connect once to the exchange server and download the corp policy (judging from one of the settings tabs). Note, that it was used with a Blackberry enabled SIM in Canada. However, after a brief success (no emails actually received) the client would go into the "Blocked" status when trying to connect and would not connect to the desktop anymore either. I uninstalled it since then.

[JoninLA]

Thats exactly my experience. All installs fine on device and desktop, desktop software synchs with device, establishes PIN etc and also forces some of the services to install. However, when you then try and use it over the air it seems to find a data tunnel then drops back to not connected

[hypermaster]

are you guys using Exchange Servers?
i dont have an exchange server & am using blackberry internet account.

Anyone tried using it with this setup?

I am so close to buying it , but only if blackberry works on it.
i know i can use the normal email service till then & set it to fetch my emails every 15mins , but its not teh same & emails being pushed to your phone. I have 8 email account configured on my BB service right now.
I want them all to come into ONE INBOX, rather than multiple ones, which is a headache to keep checking.

On this note... once u have DIRECT PUSH or Blackberry configured onto the Wizard, does all ur mails come into one INBOX , which is same as SMS or a seperate folder? Can anyone let me know on this. I hate working on multiple folders.
Thats another reason for users to use Blackberry Handsets

[wawibu]

Installed successfully on i-mate K-Jam with latest ROM and managed to sync once with the desktop. It even managed to connect once to the exchange server and download the corp policy (judging from one of the settings tabs). Note, that it was used with a Blackberry enabled SIM in Canada. However, after a brief success (no emails actually received) the client would go into the "Blocked" status when trying to connect and would not connect to the desktop anymore either. I uninstalled it since then.

I have the same problem. Is anyone here, who has no connection problems with the bb-client? And when, which rom-image are installed on the MDA?

[pencilcase]

I am trying to install this on an MdaVario (german) but with newest official QTEK rom since I have found this to be the most reliable untill now. I am getting an error each time stating: "Unexpected error. Unable to load installer module" ... is anyone able to extract the cab for me so I could try that? or does anyone have any solutions? I really want to try this since my Company uses Blackberry ....

update: it continues installing but i get the error again after it has installed ....

[JoninLA]

Can't help you with the files but I can tell you I installed it on the latest official QTEK ROM (186504-ruu_9100_2170702_21707102_20710_qtek_wwe_ship) from the ftp here and it installed with no problems - other than the inability connect as above many posts.

[cychiam]

I used BB Connect on XDA2 in the past and now BB on XDA2i. I am also using BB on 8700g.

And I agree with hyper for most of his points, from my personal experience.

With BB on my XDA2i, it
1. sucks up lots of battery life
2. address lookup is so slow.
3. affects the stability of other PPC programs e.g. notification icon, cannot turn on my built-in WIFI at times.
4. slows down the performance of my XDA2i... esp bootup.

of course people would.
1. Much Better Battery Life, especially while ur travelling.
2. BB services on windows can crash due to some other sofwtare problems.. BB handsets are rock solid
3. BB is the best sync i have seen in any phone so far.
4. Ease of use of a BB, simple & easy to use.
5. Better Security for corporates.
6. PIN Messanging :D
7. I personally love the Track Wheel


I am not sure if I agree with part of what you're saying in two of your points:

2. BB services on windows can crash due to some other sofwtare problems.. BB handsets are rock solid

I have been using the BB Connect client on my Vario, my XDA IIs and my XDA Exec. On all of them the service has proved to be rock-stable.

5. Better Security for corporates.

Anything that communicates wirelessly should be considered a risk, BB and WM devices alike.

In addition to that, my WM devices still beat my Blackberry hands down due to the fact that *in addition* to BB functionality, a WM device at least until now lets me edit project plans, spreadsheets, word documents, listen to the radio, play MP3 etc. BB are still playing catch up there. For me, the trade-offs versus benefits still make me choose WM devices I'm afraid.

[jazzdude]

I called T-Mobile USA today because I couldn't get this working either. They transferred me to RIM which I simply gave my Blackberry Pin and IEMI number and they put me on hold for a long time and came back saying that they cannot support the device through T-Mobile USA as they did not pay for this support. The RIM person even knew it was Backberry Connect on an HTC Wizard without my telling him. He also told me that I would have to go to another carrier who supported the device but could not tell me who supported the device. My estimation is that T-Mobile Germany is the only operator with the license permissions to support the Blackberry Connect on the HTC Wizard at this time. It is Rim's backend servers rejecting the Pins from this software.

I hope that this info helps.

[hyper]

i just did the same in Mumbai, India with Airtel.called them & they said that we only support RIM handsets & Nokia 9500/9300 & SE P910i. They said they dont support O2/Imate/Qtek phone as yet.
I just told them that a friend was using an O2 XDA IIs & it was working on it to see their response, but they said it might work on occasions, but we dont support it.

This actually means that they can block or give permission to certain types of PIN's.

This also means that an IMEI based PIN has certain characteristics that differtiate from others & the IMEI based PIN generated by SE P910i is based on a different algorithm / calculation than O2 phone.

Now if this can be changed somehow, maybe it can work as flawlessly as in the P910i.
Any comments??

Basically this means till the operator does not support BB on WM05 based phones, you can do nothing. :cry:

[JoninLA]

This seems to be the issue with the software, PIn numbers generated need to be in a range that is acceptable to the blackberry site registering the device http://www.modaco.com/lofiversion/index.php/t232035.html why god only knows other than to ensure they can just release the software on a regional basis. It can't be this stupid can it?

[hdubli]

i just did the same in Mumbai, India with Airtel.called them & they said that we only support RIM handsets & Nokia 9500/9300 & SE P910i. They said they dont support O2/Imate/Qtek phone as yet.
I just told them that a friend was using an O2 XDA IIs & it was working on it to see their response, but they said it might work on occasions, but we dont support it.

This actually means that they can block or give permission to certain types of PIN's.

This also means that an IMEI based PIN has certain characteristics that differtiate from others & the IMEI based PIN generated by SE P910i is based on a different algorithm / calculation than O2 phone.

Now if this can be changed somehow, maybe it can work as flawlessly as in the P910i.
Any comments??

Basically this means till the operator does not support BB on WM05 based phones, you can do nothing. :cry:

I was able to run BB on BA on 2003SE a year back...with a accesspoint change hack..on AirTel..The thing is that..Airtel people do not know a single thing about PPCs.....thay only know about Nokia and other stuff.,..that is why there is a delay or problem...But u can always use Push mail with MSFP.....much cheaper than BB

[hypermaster]

Hey hdubli..... What MSFP????
I'm thinking of using a 3rd party push email service like from www.4smartphone.com.

BTW i've heard that the SonyEricsson W900i also has a Push Email Client?
Anyone know anything about it?
So many new push email phones coming? What to choose from?
I really think that blackberry is going to loose ground.



I was able to run BB on BA on 2003SE a year back...with a accesspoint change hack..on AirTel..The thing is that..Airtel people do not know a single thing about PPCs.....thay only know about Nokia and other stuff.,..that is why there is a delay or problem...But u can always use Push mail with MSFP.....much cheaper than BB

[rwu]

I have the O2 Mini S running on the T-Mobile Vario UK official ROM works with the latest released T-Mobile UK BB Client Add-On, here in Singapore.
Here is what I think after using BB Coeect on BA, P910, Nokia 9300 and several Blackberry device
1. The BB client add-on only works with the same carrier's ROM. I tried BA on the I-Mate Rom with the T-Mo MDA III BB client add-on but it didn't work, back in U.S.. Lately I tried the Mini S with the Qtrk test Rom here in Singapore with the new BB Client from T-Mo germany, but that didn't work either. Then I flashed the T-Mo UK rom and installed the client, it worked flawlessly, rock solid. The BA with the O2 IIs rom(built in BB client) also worked flawlessly here.
2. It should work in a country where BB client is not even supported by any carrier. I know the IIi with BB client works in the US
3. Somebody mentioned radio version, I don't think that is the issue

Guys, if BB is a must, go to the slower T-Mo UK vario ROM. Let me know if it doesn't work. IMEI and carrier shouldn't be issue, since I am on O2 device/T-Mo UK rom/T-Mo Ger BB add-on combo

[Robster]

My IT group tell me that there is a new Vodafone phone due out shortly called the VPA 1640.

By the description this is the HTC Universal WM5 device.

The interesting this is it comes with BLACKBERRY SUPPORT BUILT IN!!!!!!!

Anyone else heard about this or can confirm?

I am told that in our business account profile this phone is 'coming soon'?

Robin

[JoninLA]

RWU, I haven't seen a TMO UK BB Connect add on for the Vario the only one around here seems to be the German. Can you post it to this site for people to try or give us a link to the download?

[hdubli]

Hey hdubli..... What MSFP????
I'm thinking of using a 3rd party push email service like from www.4smartphone.com.

BTW i've heard that the SonyEricsson W900i also has a Push Email Client?
Anyone know anything about it?
So many new push email phones coming? What to choose from?
I really think that blackberry is going to loose ground.



I was able to run BB on BA on 2003SE a year back...with a accesspoint change hack..on AirTel..The thing is that..Airtel people do not know a single thing about PPCs.....thay only know about Nokia and other stuff.,..that is why there is a delay or problem...But u can always use Push mail with MSFP.....much cheaper than BB


Hi...
MSFP means Microsoft Security Feature Pack...mainly used for Push mail and Remote Device wipe off.To enable this one would need Exchange Server 2003 with Service Pack 2.

I do not understand why one needs a push mail when there are 3rd party softs which checks mail or synchronise with server on a given schedule say ecery 5/10/15/20 mins...I believe that this is sufficient as far as mail is concerned...

[tonyb15re]

Hey hdubli..... What MSFP????
I'm thinking of using a 3rd party push email service like from www.4smartphone.com.

BTW i've heard that the SonyEricsson W900i also has a Push Email Client?
Anyone know anything about it?
So many new push email phones coming? What to choose from?
I really think that blackberry is going to loose ground.



I was able to run BB on BA on 2003SE a year back...with a accesspoint change hack..on AirTel..The thing is that..Airtel people do not know a single thing about PPCs.....thay only know about Nokia and other stuff.,..that is why there is a delay or problem...But u can always use Push mail with MSFP.....much cheaper than BB


Hi...
MSFP means Microsoft Security Feature Pack...mainly used for Push mail and Remote Device wipe off.To enable this one would need Exchange Server 2003 with Service Pack 2.

I do not understand why one needs a push mail when there are 3rd party softs which checks mail or synchronise with server on a given schedule say ecery 5/10/15/20 mins...I believe that this is sufficient as far as mail is concerned...

Most organisations are security concious and will therefore not allow users to set a PDA to automatically pull mail from it, they will not expose POP mail access either, hence PUSH MAIL. I've had countless discussions with our IS department about having push mail using MS but they wont entertain it, BB is the corporate solution so the device I use must support it, This worked very well on the BlueAngel which I got rid of due to its crap Bluetooth stack, I now have an exec with no BB, am eagerly awaiting the O2 Rom update, if Tmob can issue a UNIVERSAL update with it then Im sure O2 can too.... :roll:

[kelkin]

I'm trying to follow all of this back and forth but I'm just going to ask outright since it's not very clear to me. I have a Cingular 8125 which I use on the Cingular network, however I do have a T-Mobile account I can use too. Using either Cingular or T-Mobile, is there a rom I can download and place on my 8125 so I can use the Blackberry Connect software in the USA?
-Keith

[JoninLA]

Kelkin, would wish it was that simple (and it should be). I have tried the USA TMo Ship ROM and a couple of QTEK ROM's to no avail with the BB Connect Client. There is a post a few up from this one that says someone got it working with the TMo UK Ship ROM and a TMo UK BB Client but I have not seen a TMo UK BB Client anywhere so hopefully they'll enlighten us...

[Revor]

I'm using the AKU2 software, and after installing I also got an error. problem is that it doesn't work if you install it on the storage card. Just install in on the deveice and then it'll work

[edsub]

RWU, I haven't seen a TMO UK BB Connect add on for the Vario the only one around here seems to be the German. Can you post it to this site for people to try or give us a link to the download?
He did not say there is a UK BB client:
"since I am on O2 device/T-Mo UK rom/T-Mo Ger BB add-on combo"

iow: Use a T-Mobile ROM and a T-Mobile BB Client should do the trick.
I hope he is wrong: getting myself a BB sunscription on T-Mobile MDA Vario, QTek AKU2 rom, T-Mobile BB client, on Vodafone network. . . . .

[JoninLA]

"I have the O2 Mini S running on the T-Mobile Vario UK official ROM works with the latest released T-Mobile UK BB Client Add-On, here in Singapore"

Is what he said - hopefully he can clarify as I'm not inclined to blow it with the TMo UK ROM on the off chance it works.

[kelkin]

So has anyone gotten this to work in the US?

[rwu]

JoninLA, I typed that wrong. It is the Germany T-Mo BB Client. But when you install it on the UK T-Mo rom it automatically detects the language and installs the software in English

[JoninLA]

Thanks RWU, at least there is someone who has got it working. Now I need to find a way to get the UK ROM onto my QTEK, it won't let me load it as it's not a TMo device.

[rwu]

JoninLA, you need to unlock your device first. refer to the thread in the wiki for programs that does that

[JoninLA]

Device is unlocked already and I've done several ROM updates previously - odd

[kelkin]

Thanks RWU, at least there is someone who has got it working. Now I need to find a way to get the UK ROM onto my QTEK, it won't let me load it as it's not a TMo device.
So based on what you said, does that mean in theory if I install the UK rom onto my Cingular 8125, I should be able to install the BB connect sw and use it in the US?
-Keith

[hypermaster]

just got my o2 miniS. this had the o2 1.20 rom on it & i installed the tmobile BB client. It did not even install...showed an error...

i then installed the tmobile 2.17.7.2 wwe with radio 02.07.10... it now installed properly & its automatically assigned to the left soft key.

i open the BB settings & go to the STATUS tab..& clcik on restart...it starts connecting & says "DATA TUNNEL AVAILABLE" &then shows NOT CONNECTED.
while its restarting..it showsan IP of 10.--.--.-- for a little while on the Identy tab. but when i go to the OPTIONS tab, under Connection, i have selected Blackberry Solution & when i click on the details..it showsAPN as blackberry.net (which is correct), unsername : rim , & password password & IP: 206.51.26.189 & ports:19781 & 19780.

i think theres a conflict with the IP address...??
Is it possible to change the IP for auto config?
I cant understand what the problem...

ALSO when i go to airtel.blackberry.com to change my PIN & IMEI to this handheld... it say
"The PIN and IMEI provided could not be properly identified. Please re-enter your PIN and IMEI and try again. If this problem persists, contact Airtel at 7070."

How can i solve this??
any idea?

[rwu]

here is my rom and radio version:

ROM: T-Mo UK 1.6.2.4 WWE
Eadio: 01.12.10

Maybe the other guy is right, the radio version need to be below 01.13. I think the Rom version on the official T-Mo UK is my version, I don't know where you get the 2. version--is that from the UK T-Mo MDA Pro?

[hyper]

Now after trying it a few times... now my service shows BLOCKED !!!!
wonder why?

I also noticed that the blackberry client picks up only 15digits of the IMEI to registre & if u look in the settings the IMEI no is a 17 digit no.

Could this also be a problem?

[jasoncheesemanuk]

I have an Imate K-Jam with latest ROM from Imate Website (Windows Mobile 5.0 Build 14847.2.0.0)

I've installed the German T-Mobile BB Connect Client from the Website. The installation process is in German on the handheld but once up and running reverts to English - Phew!

I then installed the BB Desktop Manager which installs in English so no problems there.

I'm already running a Blackberry Device 7230 so I know that my Blackberry service is working.

When I connect the Imate to the PC and start desktop manager is asks me to change the PIN from the old device to the new one. It doesn't allow me to change the PIN, it just tells me that they will be changed. My original PIN no. starts with 201 and the new one starts with 65B.

The first time I tried this I got a connection but now I don't.

I've sat down with the administrator for our Blackberry Corporate Server and we see the PIN change on the administration screen which is great. However, when he selects "User Status" (I think that is the screen), it says that I have an "Illegal PIN number". He has never seen this before.

We(Imate community) are that close to getting this to work. I wonder if the Blackberry.net servers are stopping any codes with 65 in them. I'd be interested to see what other PIN's people are getting. We have a few 61's on our server which work fine.

Until the Blackberry.net servers except these PIN's, I don't think anyone is going to get this to work!!

[hyper]

yes ur right. i think that blackberry is stopping this service because i too have a older blackberry 6230 & my service works on that... but with my O2 MiniS, my new pin sarts with 659B---- & it rejects it.
If i go online & try to put the new PIN & IMEI..it says.....
"The PIN and IMEI provided could not be properly identified."

So i guess they are blocking it. Why is the question & how do we get around it?

[jasoncheesemanuk]

Does anyone know how to hack the PIN? I could use the PIN off my old Blackberry 7230! Maybe I could get round it that way....

[hyper]

it cant be hacked.
we only have to wait for BB to accept the PIN's.

My Question: How come it works on Windows Mobile 2003 based phones???

[edsub]

it works on WM5 devices as well. remember T-Mobile released it for their Wizard (apparently for use on their own network).
Couldnt it be that the combi of IMEI. PIN and operator just is unknown to RIM which causes the illegal PIN message?

BTW has anyone tried Blackberry support??
ie http://www.blackberry.com/knowledgecenterpublic/livelink.exe/fetch/2000/8021/707659/How_To_-_Switch_from_a_BlackBerry_Wireless_Handheld_to_a_d evice_with_BlackBerry_Connect_or_BlackBerry_Built-In.html?nodeid=1099242&vernum=0

I also dropped them the question

[hypermaster]

BTW.. i just tried installing BB client & service on my Nokia 9300... Something is funny here... This is what i did...

1. Installed the latest BB client on my nokia 9300 & went to the settings to turn the service on... i noticed that no PIN was assigned.
2. The service came on & it connected to the BB service & THE B symbol cam on the phone.
3. i went into the settings again & suddenly there was a PIN automatically assigned. Did it come Over The Air? How did it come.. The PIN starts with 638a----
4. i went to the BB web client & changed my PIN & IMEI to the nokia 9300's PIN & IMEI as shown its BB client.... No problems with that. It took it properly.
5. I sent the service book again thru the BB web client.
6. Now my Nokia 9300 is completely configured with werb service book etc... but i still cant get my emails on my phone...
7. I change it all back to my old BB 6230 & everything works fine.
8. Back to N9300.. all configures..but no emails come thru


This obvoiusly means PINs are restricted my RIM cause this N9300 PIN worked & AIRTEL does not support Windows Based phone, so the PIN's generated by it , will not be recognised i guess.
There seems to be no otehr explaination now. I have tried everything now.

[jasoncheesemanuk]

Hypermaster,

Why did you change the PIN on the BB Web Client? Didn't it automatically know?
Is this the Entperprise Server version or hosted by an ISP/Mobile Operator?
I'm pretty sure that the PIN is generated by the BB Connect Software and is device specific - a bit like a MAC address. When you start up the BB desktop manager, it recognises this PIN and sends it back to the main Enterprise Server. I also presume it knows who you are by the email address in the Advanced Tab. So on the server it sees xxxx@someaddress.com SEND IT TO PIN No. 63xxxxxxxx device.
When you first assign the PIN, you have to generate an encrytped key by wiggling your mouse around. This is then stored on the BB Server and the handheld device to ensure an encrypted connection.

Just my thoughts which may be complete rubbish!! :shock:

[hyper]

i had a problem with my N9300 cause i had loaded thelatest 2.5 version BB client..
once i loaded the older 2.4 version BB clinet, it worked perfectly.
I still dont like the way all emails come to another BB folder.... i simple love the way all SMS's & Email's come to one folder in the BBhandsets..
I think i've going to buy the BB8700g now. :lol:

[JoninLA]

Nope, it's not PIN's. I just finally got the UK TMo ship ROM installed, loaded BB connect and desktop, and....stunning....connected to my BB Enterprise Server....Hallelujah. RWO was correct ROM 1.6 and Radio 1.12 as per the TMo UK ship download on the ftp area and it's away and running

[hypermaster]

yes it seems to work fine with enterprise, lots of people even in India are useing it with enterprise... but it does not work with blackberry internet service.
thats what my problem is... i dont use enterprise server.

[jasoncheesemanuk]

JoninLA,

#1) How did you get the T Mobile UK ROM onto your Wizard. I thought you were stuck i the same loop as me - latest ROM that has the new CID unlock. I've been trying to downgrade my phone for the last few days but am getting nowhere

#2) Is your PIN the same then as with the old ROM?

#3) If that's the case how on earth can it tell that you have a TMobile ROM - spooky :roll:

[JoninLA]

Jason, sent you a PM but the routine to unlock is on the lokiwiz thread - install an earlier ROM for your device (i.e. if you have QTEK install the early QTEK custom ROM) and then you can run CID unlock. It seems the issue with CID unlock is ROM related and not hardware related. Once you have unlocked the TMO UK ROM and BB works like a dream.

[Robster]

Hi

Daoes ANYONE have Blackberry Connect working on a K-Jam on Vodafone in the UK?

Robin

[kelkin]

yes it seems to work fine with enterprise, lots of people even in India are useing it with enterprise... but it does not work with blackberry internet service.
thats what my problem is... i dont use enterprise server.
So does this mean that I should be able to flash my Wizard (Cing 8125) with the proper ROM and get BB connect to work on my enterprise server in the USA? If so, which rom file do I need to install?

[JoninLA]

Duplicate post, sorry

[JoninLA]

Kelkin, I'm using a QTEK 9100 flashed with the RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe ROM, the German download of BB Connect and BB desktop and TMo USA unlimited Internet and a BB Enterprise server in New York.
It all ran fine on the basic installation (i.e. no tweaks or other software installed). Installed the ROM, installed the BB Connect Client. Installed the desktop, connected the two together and then did connect on the BB Desktop, connected synched and then disconnected, it found the network and just connected over the GPRS and has been going since.
Since then I have put OMAP back on and am running it happily at 240MHz. Have reinstalled SPB Pocket Plus (but for some reason the battery meter along the top of the today screen doesn't show - if anyone knows a fix for that I'd appreciate it) and SPB backup. Tweaked the Edge/GPRS icon and it's now running sweetly downloading email as it comes in.

[kelkin]

Kelkin, I'm using a QTEK 9100 flashed with the RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe ROM, the German download of BB Connect and BB desktop and TMo USA unlimited Internet and a BB Enterprise server in New York.
It all ran fine on the basic installation (i.e. no tweaks or other software installed). Installed the ROM, installed the BB Connect Client. Installed the desktop, connected the two together and then did connect on the BB Desktop, connected synched and then disconnected, it found the network and just connected over the GPRS and has been going since.
Since then I have put OMAP back on and am running it happily at 240MHz. Have reinstalled SPB Pocket Plus (but for some reason the battery meter along the top of the today screen doesn't show - if anyone knows a fix for that I'd appreciate it) and SPB backup. Tweaked the Edge/GPRS icon and it's now running sweetly downloading email as it comes in.
Excellent, thanks for the reply. I wanted to make sure someone already had success with this before I tried. Now I'm going to have to play! Thanks :)

[thehercman]

JoninLA,

I have been following this thread trying to get BBConnect to work on my TMobile MDA. Your configuration sounds similar to mine so I thought I would see if you had any ideas on this.

I have a BB Enterprise server. I have installed the bbconnect software on the MDA, and used the BB Config for Windows Mobile to redirect mail to the MDA. The problem I have is BB Connect initially connects and then disconnects via GPRS and never starts the activation process. If I view the status using the Blackberry Desktop Redirector the result of the last transaction was illegal handheld pin.

My theory is that T-Mobile does not have the PIN for the MDA setup with data access therefore causing the GPRS connections to fail.

Thoughts?

[JoninLA]

Have no idea why it works on some and not on others but all I can say is that the TMo UK Ship ROM seems to work fine with it.

[thehercman]

Is there a link to download the uk rom image? I'll give it a try.

Thanks

[JoninLA]

ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Tmobile

and you want the RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe

[kelkin]

Weird.. I installed
RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe
and
bbconnect_pocketpc_tmo_de_2.1.1.20.exe

and I get "Unable to install. Uncertified system softwre detected"

-Keith

[sting0r]

Does it matter what radio firmware you are using, I remember reading a different thread where someone said it might? I was hoping to hear more people got this working. I was going to run out this morning and buy one to replace my nokia 9300 :)

Hopefully I can buy it and just bring it back if it doesn't work...

[sting0r]

Does it matter what radio firmware you are using, I remember reading a different thread where someone said it might? I was hoping to hear more people got this working. I was going to run out this morning and buy one to replace my nokia 9300 :)

Hopefully I can buy it and just bring it back if it doesn't work...

Are you using the MDA style phone or are you trying to use a Cingular 8125 style device. If you have the cingular style phone that may be your problem.

[jasoncheesemanuk]

Interesting findings so far:

Imate latest ROM - AKU2 - I can load BB Connect but I get Illegal PIN on corporate BB Server

Imate Original ROM - AKU1 - I can't load the BB Connect software - error around Uncertified System Software

T-Mobile UK ROM - I can load BB Connect software and everything works. Funny thing is I checked the PIN from the Imate ROM AKU2 install and its the same PIN.

So why does the T-Mobile ROM work and the Imate latest not when the PIN's are identical?

Out of interest, my calendar wont sync. Strange. Should have checked that before installing the BB Connect client.

For information only:

T-Mobile Device Information
ROM Version: 1.6.2.4 WWE
ROM Date: 11/15/05
Radio Version: 01.12.10
Protocol Version: 4.0.13.23
ExtROM Version: 1.6.2.105

I'd be interested to see if there is something in the T-Mobile Ext Rom that activates this in someway. I don't know how to make a custom rom, but I'd like to make one with the Imate AKU2 ROM and some parts out of the Ext ROM to see if that works.

Anybody willing to help me?

[JoninLA]

Glad u got it working Jason. I'm the same, got it working on the TMo UK ship ROM after trying at least three QTEKS and a couple of USA Roms. Would really really like to be able to use it with an AKU2 and preferably the latest QTEK which is rock solid and quick. The TMo ship ROM grinds but then again, BB works so I'll suffer.

[edsub]

Interesting findings so far:

Imate latest ROM - AKU2 - I can load BB Connect but I get Illegal PIN on corporate BB Server

Imate Original ROM - AKU1 - I can't load the BB Connect software - error around Uncertified System Software

T-Mobile UK ROM - I can load BB Connect software and everything works. Funny thing is I checked the PIN from the Imate ROM AKU2 install and its the same PIN.

So why does the T-Mobile ROM work and the Imate latest not when the PIN's are identical?

Out of interest, my calendar wont sync. Strange. Should have checked that before installing the BB Connect client.

For information only:

T-Mobile Device Information
ROM Version: 1.6.2.4 WWE
ROM Date: 11/15/05
Radio Version: 01.12.10
Protocol Version: 4.0.13.23
ExtROM Version: 1.6.2.105

I'd be interested to see if there is something in the T-Mobile Ext Rom that activates this in someway. I don't know how to make a custom rom, but I'd like to make one with the Imate AKU2 ROM and some parts out of the Ext ROM to see if that works.

Anybody willing to help me?

Sounds promising
On wich network are you btw? T-Mobile?
I am using a Qtek aku2 rom (test one) on T-Mobile device on Vodafone network . . . the T-Mobile DE BBClient did install but still i dont have a BB subscription in my company.

Anyway I know there are some cabs in the T-Mobile ext rom (have to check wich one(s) that set certain "TMO"values in the registry , maybe thats the trick to get this T-Mobile BB version working

[jasoncheesemanuk]

I'm on Vodafone UK.

I've had to go back to the Imate AKU2 as I need my Calendar for work - very important!!

I'm more than willing to try some customisation if someone can assist.

[JoninLA]

Just out of interest, has anyone trid the BB Connect with the USA stock ROM (RUU_Prodigy_1081002_108_10910_TMO_US.exe) - just wondered I have no inclination at the moment to blow my fifth ROM in a few days.... However, if it does work it would mean that at least two "country" ROMS work. I seem to recall trying it with the latest TMO USA ROM (2.17 I think) and having no luck

[jasoncheesemanuk]

Who'd like to make a stab at which "cab" in the T-Mobile Extended ROM fixes the BB Connect

EXEC:\Extended_ROM\cusTSK.exe \Windows\T-Mobile.tsk
CAB: \Extended_ROM\CAB-Customization-Connection-TMUK-Wizard-Aug08.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\Signed_TMO_EU_UA_051003.sa.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\Signed_DiscoButton8.sa.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\Signed_TMUK_Cust_Wiz03000100.sa.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\Signed_Wiz_NoGPRSAutoattach.sa.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\Signed_BeepMode_Longtones.sa.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\Signed_TMO_CameraDriverPatch.sa.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\UNI_BrowserPerformance.sa.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\Signed_ExtendedROM_Version.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\CAB-Customization-WapPush-TMO-Wizard-Sep02-1.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\Signed_Wiz_TMO_STK.sa.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\CAB-Customization-TMUK-Wizard-01-04-03Oct05.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\CAB-DATEamil-Wizard-TMOUK-04Aug05-DataBase.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\CAB-Shortcut-TMOUK-03Oct05.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\SmartDialing_enable_0915_signed.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\TMO_UK_Browser_Signed.cab
CAB: \Extended_ROM\TMO_UK_pIEDefaultPage_Signed.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\TMO_UK_UXC_Signed.cab
EXEC:\Extended_ROM\WifiTempON.exe
CAB: \Extended_ROM\Signed_WifiSSID.sa.cab
EXEC:\Extended_ROM\WifiTempOFF.exe

[wawibu]

If tried many different ROMs. The BB-Client can installed on all images without an error, but it didn't works. The connection will be refused.

I only found one image where the BB-Client works: RUU_Prodigy_1060201_107_11210_TMO_DE_Ship.exe

No files of the extended Rom are installed ! So it must be something direct in the rom. The PIN and IMEI are over all images allways the same.

On my old MDAc the T-Mo BB-Client works fine on all ROM Images. I think that only the combination of PIN and IMEI are verifid by RIM. If this combination is valid the connection will works fine.

I've called the T-Mo Hotline and they told me that the BB-Client needs some parts of the ROM-Image from 12-2005.

Who can help to find out what part of the image the BB-Client need to connect?

[jasoncheesemanuk]

wawibu,

I don't think you are correct.

You say that:

>>I think that only the combination of PIN and IMEI are verifid by RIM. If this combination is valid the connection will works fine.

The PIN and IMEI don't change between ROM versions. The IMEI is fixed anyway - its device specific. And the PIN generated when I had the T-Mobile ROM and the Imate ROM are exactly the same.

What is interesting is that you didn't have the extended ROM loaded and the BB Connect worked. So is it the OS ROM or the Radio ROM?

I wouldn't know where to start with mixing different ROM's!!!

[wawibu]

wawibu,
The PIN and IMEI don't change between ROM versions. The IMEI is fixed anyway - its device specific. And the PIN generated when I had the T-Mobile ROM and the Imate ROM are exactly the same.


That's what I mean. The PIN and IMEI are allways the same. I mean that RIM didn't rejected the connection in case of my PIN and IMEI. It must be something in the radio or os.

How can I extract the os and radio files from the whole file? Then I'll try to mix some installtion.

[jasoncheesemanuk]

You can backup the OS and the Radio by using aWizard. I'm out of my depth here now as I have no idea what you do with the backup or what form it even takes. Maybe someone who is good with images can help us?

[emauliscrap]

I've tried to download the files in Edsup's post down on page 1, but can't get them. Are they still available for download?

Cheers

[Wiz]

People, for the last time: BB Connect *only* works on Wizard ROM versions 1.06 and *lower* and *only* on Radio versions 1.12.10 and *lower*.

As long as you stick to the above, the BB Connect client can be installed on IMates, Qteks, MDAs etc ....

(The other point of course being the fact that the client may not work on other providers than T-Mobile, but I cannot verify that since for the time being I am bound to T-Mobile myself)

[emauliscrap]

Bugger..

So my radio (version 1.12.10) is ok, but my rom (1.6.2.4) is too new to try this?

[edsub]

the T-Mobile os roms are known to be heavily modified by T-Mobile.
a file-to-file comparison between a QTek and T-Mobile rom of comparale versions maybe a solution. Especially files that do exist on T-mbile os rom and do not exist on QTek rom are interesting.
I bet that IF T-Mobile had released a aku2 rom the BBClient would work on that also.

[edsub]

one other interesing question: Can someone that is using a t-Mobile ROM with NO extended ROM installed and a functional BBClient post a registry export twofold:
1. before BBClient install
2. after BBClient install

Maybe there is a TMO setting in the T-Mobile branded os-rom after all (devices like Himalaya had something like that before)

[jasoncheesemanuk]

Wiz,

I understand what you are saying. BUT, we haven't found anybody that has used a different ROM other than a T-Mobile ROM to get this to work. So I think it is more than the OS needs to be 1.06 or less and Radio 1.12 or less.

I find it hard to believe that this is a compatability thing to do with an OS. Surely the program just wouldn't work if it was down to the OS?

Edsub,

I'm going to reload the original T-Mobile ROM tonight without the extended ROM. How do I export the registry in Windows Mobile 5 (I'm good on XP and Solaris but don't know much about WM5!)? Is there a tool a need to load?

[wawibu]

Hi Janson,

I always use RegEdit.

Regards,

[matchtrader]

This might be a dumb question, but would there be any advantage to using BB Connect over MS Activesync with AKU2 push email? My office uses a BB Enterprise Server but also has SP2 activated, thus allowing for push email via ActiveSync so I would have both options available assuming the BB Connect software would work. TIA

[sting0r]

Well, I just installed the tmobile uk rom on my mda, loaded up blackberry connect and the status says service blocked. Only thing I did change was the apn for the normal internet connection. Going to wipe now and try again with the uk wap apn.

[Wiz]

Wiz,

I understand what you are saying. BUT, we haven't found anybody that has used a different ROM other than a T-Mobile ROM to get this to work. So I think it is more than the OS needs to be 1.06 or less and Radio 1.12 or less.


I currently am using Qtek version 1.6.7.1 WWE with radio 1.12.10 and it works fine.

(sorry in my previous post I of course meant meant 1.6 and not 1.06)

[sting0r]

So here is a bit of interesting information, I got the blackberry client to work, but it only works while the tmobile general.t-mobile.uk apn is enabled. The minute I try to connect to wap.voicestream.com the pin becomes blocked. Anyone with blackberry working, have you gotten regular data gprs to work as well?

Well, I just installed the tmobile uk rom on my mda, loaded up blackberry connect and the status says service blocked. Only thing I did change was the apn for the normal internet connection. Going to wipe now and try again with the uk wap apn.

[sting0r]

OK, so I got it working. Here is the problem though, anytime I try to access the internet through the wap.voicestream.com apn it disables the blackberry connect and allows me to be on the internet. However, I can't figure out a way for blackberry to get logged back to the blackberry.net apn without a soft reset.

Anyone able to use the internet and blackberry at the same time? My nokia 9300 was able to do that, basically it ran both apns at the same time. Had a G icon and a B icon.

Any ideas?

[JoninLA]

Sting0r, I am using the BB Connect to connect to a BES and using the wap.voicestream.com APN. When I installed the UK ROm it obviously defaulted settings to the UK ones and I left those while I go it set up, then changed to the US settings and it's been fine.
You cannot connect to internet and BES at the same time. Open the BB Connect and then select "suspend" and whn you have finished web browsing just hit "resume" and it works with no issues.

[jasoncheesemanuk]

Wiz,

See you are using a QTEK ROM. Could you specifically tell me which one it is? i.e RUU_PRODIGY_1060701_xxxxxxxx_yyyyyy.exe

Thanks

[sting0r]

Sting0r, I am using the BB Connect to connect to a BES and using the wap.voicestream.com APN. When I installed the UK ROm it obviously defaulted settings to the UK ones and I left those while I go it set up, then changed to the US settings and it's been fine.
You cannot connect to internet and BES at the same time. Open the BB Connect and then select "suspend" and whn you have finished web browsing just hit "resume" and it works with no issues.

Thanks. Kinda of sucks you can't have both. Guess the NOkia 9300 has a better implementation. I only care because I want to leave agile messenger open all the time. Oh well...

[edsub]

Now I am really confused.
Someone IS using BBConnect on a non-T-Mobile ROM and on a Non-T-Mobile network???
Please explain what you have running (ROM version) and to what you are connecting (apn) on which network.

[JoninLA]

If you're referring to Wiz's post he is on TMO but is using QTEK ROM

[antlane]

Before I go and have an argument with my Finance Director as to whether he'll approve it, can someone confirm whether or not the Blackberry Connect will work with my Wizard? It's a Vario running T-Mobile's latest ROM but I'm using it on Vodafone UK.

ROM version: 1.6.2.4 WWE
ROM date: 11/15/05
Radio version: 01.12.10
Protocol version: 4.0.13.23
ExtRom version: 1.6.2.105

Thanks in advance.

[jasoncheesemanuk]

Antlane,

I'm on Vodafone UK and I've tried the T-Mobile ROM that you are talking about and BB connect worked for me. Why do you want to beat up your finance director?

[slurp]

It also works for me.
Using o2 mini s with the Tmobile ROM , I can connect to the company BES
using the company supplied BB enabled Vodafone SIM

Thanks Jason

[jasoncheesemanuk]

Wiz,

On your theory, I took the Custom ROM from the QTEK directory which is a 1.5 ROM with 1.12.10 radio ROM. I installed BB Connect which installed fine but would not connect - I expect Illegal PIN.

So it maybe looks like you need - 1.12.10 Radio with ROM earlier than 1.6.7.1 with either a T-Mobile SIM or a T-Mobile ROM.

So I now have T-Mobile UK ROM with Vodafone UK SIM with German BB Connect Software working great - like the EU all over again :wink:

One tip is make sure you ActiveSync all your contacts/calendar etc before installing the BB Connect software it seems to screw up the Calendar sync if you do it the other way round.

I also said I would post the registry before and after on the T-Mobile UK ROM. True to my word the zip file is below.

I've had some fun and games with all this. I tried unlocking the extended rom so that I wouldn't get all the T-Mobile junk but you can't seem to do that at the moment. So I did the soft reset trick and manually added the CABs that i wanted ie. Camera Patch, MMS etc.

I then had to tweak the registry to get rid of the branding on the dialer which is absolutely hideous. And then finally removed the splash screen on bootup. 4 hours later, after lots and lots of reading forums, I think I'm done.

I've also added a text file below which is War & Peace on the installation from start to finish. It might help someone?

[antlane]

Antlane,

I'm on Vodafone UK and I've tried the T-Mobile ROM that you are talking about and BB connect worked for me. Why do you want to beat up your finance director?

That's great, thanks Jason! When I installed BBConnect a couple of weeks ago, it shows the T-Mobile GPRS APN in the settings, I take it this doesn't matter or should I be installing a different version of BBConnect?

My finanace director is incredibly tight and as he'll have to pay more money for me to be able to use BBConnect, the chances are he won't sign it off. Apparently only very senior people in the company are entitled to Blackberry usage (seems he has to pay Vodafone for a new tariff, and also pay Blackberry for another user - does this sound correct?!).

[slewis1972]

Hi

The ftp link on page one, does not seem top work. I want to install the BB connect on my Vario

Can anyone point me to the download?

Thanks

Scott

[edsub]

So it maybe looks like you need - 1.12.10 Radio with ROM earlier than 1.6.7.1 with either a T-Mobile SIM or a T-Mobile ROM.

When browsing thru the registry files, something came to my mind: I think the BBClinet just check s IF there is a 'T-Mobile Internet' identifier string available. If it is (and it is when youre using a TMO rom or using TMO customisations) the BBClient will work, otherwise it wont.

As I remember Wiz is using a QTek rom on T-Mobile.
@Wiz: Can you confirm you have (under 'Connections') 'T-Mobile Internet' (instead of 'My ISP') or at least the connection identifier from the T-Mobile extende rom setup?

For the rest of it there is not much T-Mobile in the registry dums, apart from some app-specific strings that have a 'Customer'variable with 'TMO'value.

[emauliscrap]

Hi

The ftp link on page one, does not seem top work. I want to install the BB connect on my Vario

Can anyone point me to the download?

Thanks

Scott

Likewise. I'd love to give this a go.

[edsub]

Due to some 'funny' guy/girl the FTP seems to be trashed (again) :x

I uploaded the files again end fixed my earlier post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=252751#252751

[j0nkatz]

I believe you must have the Blackberry w/ Corp Email features enabled on your account for this to work. I have tried and tried with my devicce and it wouldn't work. As soon as I put my coworkers sim card in from her Blackberry 7290 from t-mobile....

SUCCESS.

[lber]

It seems that a lot of people have put solutions to getting BB Connect onto a wizard, could someone post the exact versions of roms they have used, and which work. (links to the roms would be nice ;-) ) :?:

Rgds Stu :?:

[pmow]

I believe you must have the Blackberry w/ Corp Email features enabled on your account for this to work. I have tried and tried with my devicce and it wouldn't work. As soon as I put my coworkers sim card in from her Blackberry 7290 from t-mobile....

SUCCESS.

j0nkatz,

Were you able to get internet working on the device? And were you able to surf at the same time, or suspend/resume as was previously mentioned?

I called up tmobile US which of course had no idea what I was talking about, but the "blackberry corporate" plan is $30/month, $10 more than I'm currently paying. I guess my only solution is to either wait for the upgrade to SP2 (like in a year), or wait until tmobile comes out with thier push email solution for WM5 devices (rep didn't specify)

[JoninLA]

Just to collate what I have done these are some notes I put down for a co-worker on the BB Connect. Note we are in the USA using TMo:

Go through the unlock procedues making sure you do the Super CID unlock, you're then free and clear to install any ROM. If you intend to use BB Connect then install the TMo UK Ship ROM RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe

Install the BB Desktop Software
Connect your device to the PC and let the activesync finish
Install BB Connect to the device
Configure BB Connect on the device to talk to "Blackberry Solution" on the "Options"tab.
Check under the tabs that it is set to allow itself to work while roaming.
Open BB Desktop
Connect to the devie from BB Desktop
Establish a password by moving the mouse in the insane world of RIM
Let the thing sit for an age while it syncs calendar.
Unplug and let it connect to the BB over the GSM
Go into settings, connections and create a new connection called "TMo USA" of similar so you know what it is
Set it to use the GPRS modem
APN should be wap.voicestream.com
No other settings needed.
Set the device to use this connection.
Thats it

Remember to browse the web you have to suspend BB connect and then everything works as normal.
When finished web browsing Resume BB Connect
BB doesn't work while web browsing or the phone is operating.

The above works for us and we have at least three Varios running with BB Connect happily.

[bassettg]

Has anyone found a solution to the uncertified system software error that happens to some people during the install of the BB Connect package on the device?

I have a couple of HTC Wizards (not branded). I unlocked Super CID, loaded four different ROMs, including all the ones mentioned above that work for other people. Two from Qtek (1.6.7.1 WWE, 2.17.7.2 WWE) and two from T-Mobile (1.6.2.4 UK, 1.6.2.1 DE). I tried both the client from the FTP site and the installer package directly from T-Mobile Germany. All combinations give the uncertified system software error.

Since there was a post earler about a DLL checking for HW ID, I am inclined to think that is the case.

Any thoughts about this from the group?

Thanks.

[shaunconn]

Hi

Tempted to start playing but was wondering if anyone using the O2 XDA Mini S has managed to get blackberry connectivity over O2?

Regards

Shaun

[pt-1]

I can also confirm that I flashed my O2 XDA Minis with the T-Mobile Firmware mentioned by Jason and also installed the BlackBerry SyncTools and the BB Client (T-Mobile) and I am now succesfully using this with my Vodaphone UK Sim here in the UK

Last hurdle is to get my UK Keyboard back....

[shaunconn]

Hi

So Vodafone UK works - anyone managed o2 UK?

Shaun

[pt-1]

Within the Options of the Instan Email with Blackberry I choose BlackBerry Solutions

remember when you are connected via ActiveSync BB Client wont work

Give it a softreset too after installing

I done not everything jason mentioned (wasn't to bothered about the T-Mobile Pix etc)

[brightming]

what is the Blackberry Enabled mean?

[antlane]

I've managed to get it all working. The only slight issue is that it takes around ten minutes for mail to come through. However other users here who have proper Blackberries get their mails coming through far quicker. Does anyone know if this discrepency could be down to any of the following:?
* Using Blackberry Connect instead of a proper Blackberry
* My Exchange account
* My Blackberry Exchange account (perhaps frequency of updates is user-specific?)
* My Vodafone account

Any help is greatly appreciated.

[JoninLA]

IF you are using BB Enterprise server then I'm surprised you ar egetting a delay - I'm using BB Connect and my mail hits the device the same rate as colleagues with blackberries. I'm on TMo USA with the TMo UK Ship Rom and BB Connect via a NY based BES. Sounds like it's something else in the setup rather than the BB Connect

[kelkin]

So based on what everyone has done, should I be able to install the BB connect on my Cingular 8125 using Cingular in the USA and connect to my BES to get push email?

[darkjedi]

from the general consensus (sp), the newer AKU2 rom's wont work with bb connect.

[Poohba]

I have been reading through and have not been able to find the files and exact complete instructions on how to get this set up. I do not have the MDA/Wizard from T-Mobile but I do have the SDA and wanted to give it a try. I was told when I purchased the phone that I would be able to access my companies email but I have not been able to yet. I cannot get to OWA b/c it doesn't support frames. I'm stuck and need assistance please. The files for the CAB I should use are not available where they are listed in this forum. Please assist.

[Jiffer]

Tried it on my XDA Mini S (locked to and using an o2 Blackberry SIM). loaded OK and generated new PIN etc (just as the connect program should (I've sucessfully used BBC on P910, Nokia 9300 and more recently Treo 650)).

However once I tried to register it closes the connection - so I assume it is something to do with either the locked o2 device or the o2 (Blackberry) connection.

[JoninLA]

So as a dumb question - is it possible to install an AKU2 ROM and then downgrade the radio ROM to something like the 1.13? If it is I'd give it a try to see if it could work with the BB connect. As the issue seems to be with either the AKU1 versus AKU2 ROm or the Radio ROM version being below 1.13 it would be interesting to isolate the problem to one or the other.

[shockdaddyd]

A few months back I was using BBC on a Sony Ericsson P910a with T-Mo in the US. Then they upgraded their servers and I got booted because I was on a POP account, not BES.

Has anyone had success with BBC and POP accounts with T-Mo in the US on the MDAs?

Thanks.

[sting0r]

So as a dumb question - is it possible to install an AKU2 ROM and then downgrade the radio ROM to something like the 1.13? If it is I'd give it a try to see if it could work with the BB connect. As the issue seems to be with either the AKU1 versus AKU2 ROm or the Radio ROM version being below 1.13 it would be interesting to isolate the problem to one or the other.

I would like to find this out as well. I think you can cook your own rom and pull bits and pieces that you want. I am finding the orig tmobile rom very flakey. I end up soft reseting at least once a day :(

[JoninLA]

sting0r, soft reset nope, the TMo UK Ship cunningly reboots itself regularly for no reason anyway...LOL

It would be great if someone had any ideas about this. Think we have another unit turning up in the office in the next day or so - I'll blow it out with the latest QTEK ROM and see what happens when we try backing down the radio

[edsub]

if you flash it with the 2.08 qtek rom, you will have both aku2 and radio 1.13! easier than cooking your own!

[roshambo]

I get a BBLINK.DLL error whenever I try to run the Desktop Manager software. Anyone have a solution for this problem?

[sting0r]

if you flash it with the 2.08 qtek rom, you will have both aku2 and radio 1.13! easier than cooking your own!

Have you or anyone else tried using Blackberry Connect with the QTEK 2.08 rom? Anyone know if this works??? Where can I find a copy?

[rastanet]

Good evening,
I tried to install ActiveSync for Blackberry.
The installation on Q9100 was held without problem. On the other hand when I launch ActivSync on the PC, I have an error message notifying to me that Outlook is badly configured.
I also tried to install on a OutLook-Exchange computer, but I it same error message.
I am perhaps except subject, but I remain blocked and then to benefit from my Q9100.

In advance thank you

rastanet

[JoninLA]

sting0r - haven't tried it. Trawled back through the posts and the consensus was that it it was a combination of ROM 1.06 and Radio of 1.12 or older.

[tageeboy]

I am a total newbee and am trying to read on the ROM updates. My question is this, is there anything I can do so my MDA will get blackberry mail from my company BES? I am now having to carry a BB as well as phone since I love my MDA. Please help, I would even be willing to pay if someone can assist

[sting0r]

sting0r - haven't tried it. Trawled back through the posts and the consensus was that it it was a combination of ROM 1.06 and Radio of 1.12 or older.

Oh, too bad. To be honest this rom really really really sucks! Wish I was able to use another one. I wonder what the real deal is.

[tageeboy]

I installed the UK rom, the german bb software and am able to do lookups for my company and can send BB mail to people, problem is that I can not get bb mail on the device yet. Any suggestions? How do I need to modify my connection settings?

[roshambo]

I get a BBLINK.DLL error whenever I try to run the Desktop Manager software. Anyone have a solution for this problem?

Has this not happened to anyone else?

[tr0gg]

ok folks,

i just got my wizzard and it is charging up. it is currently on o2 uk rom 1.5.4.2 wwe radio 01.09.10

also have an or blackberry connected sim
i'll try the bb connect on this setup, and see if i can make it talk to my BES server
results to come soon...
stay tuned

[sting0r]

Anyone have any progress using a new rom? Wondering if there will be another official release in an area outside of Germany or another carrier anytime soon. Just wishing for the ability to use a newer rom.

[JoninLA]

You and the rest of us mate....

We talked to TMo USA and RIM a week ago and they had no plans in their minds for rolling out BB Connect. RIM are pushing hard with their new units and TMo don't seem to see much business benefit in rolling BBC out. In fact they didn't believe it worked in the USA until we demonstrated the global approach of a German BBC, a UK TMO ROM and a US BES which kinda floored them.

I'd guess we'd se something first in Germany as there must be pressure for AKU2 ROMS but with their BBC rolled out they couldn't deploy a new ROM without it working with their existing BBC user base. Then again it's TMO so they mnight just roll out AKU2 and not worry about the technical issues :)

[sting0r]

Thanks for the update. Hopefully you showing them that it works in the US doesn't cause them to try and shut us down :(

Wish someone was interested in trying to cook up a better rom, with playing around with new rom and old radio rom...

[Jiffer]

Trog - any news

[tr0gg]

With the original rom, RUU_Wizard_1050402_101_11210_O2_ENG.exe, i mamaged to get it installed with no issues, it connected to my BES server, gave me an ip address set the password, and then nothing. after th inital connection it refused to connect again.

since then i have reloaded my rom twice with the the result of installing fine, but no connection to BES ever.

the other 2 roms i tried are
1. RUU_Prodigy_2080701_101_11310_Qtek_WWE_Test.exe
2. Xda_Minis_Upgrade_v2.21.4.101.exe

now i am still running the new o2 rom, and i'm going to try and downgrade the radio to see if this helps.

i'll let you all know as soon as i do

[tr0gg]

running the Xda_Minis_Upgrade_v2.21.4.101.exe rom, and downgraded the radio to RADIO_ROM_Wizard_GSM_11210.exe.
Here the device connected to my BES and took the password, but again failed to connect a second time.

Also loaded the RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe rom to confirm that i can actually get it working with my o2 sim.

this worked fine, so i upgraded the radio to 9100_radio_only_1.13.10 and it is still happily connected

so to summerise i could make it work with tmobile 1.6.2.4 rom, and 1.13.10 radio

is there anything else anyone wants tested?

[sting0r]

Wish we could figure out what the Tmobile Rom has that some of the newer roms do not have. Anyway to do a compare of the files? Sounds like it isn't the radio, but localized to the rom itself. What happens if you don't load any of the extended rom programs? Does it still work?

[taintbad]

Has anyone had any luck on getting this installed on a Wiza100?

[jasoncheesemanuk]

Well it seems that T-Mobile Germany have released an AKU2 update, so I presume a UK one will be following soon (I don't have access to the UK download site). I presume that the BB Connect software works with that to.

Anyone willing to try the T-Mobile Germany AKU2 version and see
a) if you can change the language to English
b) can unlock it
c) works with BB Connect

[JoninLA]

where's the ROM Jason? Post a link or put it in the ftp and I'm sure we'll have a go.

[kelkin]

running the Xda_Minis_Upgrade_v2.21.4.101.exe rom, and downgraded the radio to RADIO_ROM_Wizard_GSM_11210.exe.
Here the device connected to my BES and took the password, but again failed to connect a second time.

Also loaded the RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe rom to confirm that i can actually get it working with my o2 sim.

this worked fine, so i upgraded the radio to 9100_radio_only_1.13.10 and it is still happily connected

so to summerise i could make it work with tmobile 1.6.2.4 rom, and 1.13.10 radio

is there anything else anyone wants tested?
What unit did you do this on? Are you saying that if I use the ROMs you just mentioned, I can use my Cingular 8125 on my USA BES server and it will work? Does it matter that I'm on Cingular and not TMobile?
-Keith

[tmcquitty]

Using JoninLA's method, I have connected my MDA to a BES at my office.

Works well. Instant email, just had to reconfigure the Locale settings to US vs UK.

I haven't been able to get my calendar working yet, and I do prefer the AKU2 rom's screens better. But, in all, BB Connect is much more important to me.

Any ideas on how to get the calendar sync'ing? I did set the checkmark on the MDA.

[kelkin]

Using JoninLA's method, I have connected my MDA to a BES at my office.

Works well. Instant email, just had to reconfigure the Locale settings to US vs UK.

I haven't been able to get my calendar working yet, and I do prefer the AKU2 rom's screens better. But, in all, BB Connect is much more important to me.

Any ideas on how to get the calendar sync'ing? I did set the checkmark on the MDA.
What network are you on? Can someone who has successfully done this *please* just reply with what model, roms, geographic location, and carrier you're using so everyone knows whether they can or can't do this with their specific configuration and situation? Thanks.
-Keith

[tmcquitty]

I am on TMobile, with the blackberry plan.

I was using the UK rom LoninLA specified. I believe it is: RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe

As I just got the device, I have been playing on it a lot. I used to be here when the XDA hacking scene was "new".

[JoninLA]

Would be very interested if anyone in Germany has downloaded the new AKU2 TMO Rom (http://www.t-mobile.de/downloads/t-mobile/vario_aku2.0_05-2006.zip) as it presumably works with the BB Connect as a previous post suggested. I'll download it tongith and have a look at it but not being fluent it's going to be a touch interesting, still at least I should be able to see which radio ROM and base ROM it is using and maybe we can work from there.

[kelkin]

On my Cingular 8125 I installed:

ROM 1.6.2.4
Radio 01.13.10

And could not install the BB Connect software, it told me
"Unable to install. Uncertified system software software detected"
-Keith

[taintbad]

Kelkin,

I Have two models of the wizard, tmobile mda (wiza200) and a Cingular 8125(wiza100)

I flashed them both with RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe

Installed BBConnect_PocketPC_TMO_DE.cab onto the wiza200
changed connections settings for Cingular, ran the desktop software and successfully was able to send and recieve messages through the pocketpc.

I recieved the "Unable to install. Uncertified system software software detected" on the wiza100.


I backed up the wiza200 with sprite backup and restored in on the wiza100. This did not work, the blackberry control panel would never start.

looking at the files that are installed from the blackberry cab several of the dll files and the bbsettings.cpl have several references to WIZA200.

Using Flexhex I changed all refrences of WIZA200 to WIZA100, but all this accomplished was a bbsettings.cpl that did nothing :-).

so to summarize,
Wiza200 on Cingular network with rom RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe works great.

Wiza100, unable to install..
perhaps if it were possible to make a wiza100 report itself as a wiza200, any thoughts?

[kelkin]

Thanks Taint,
Very informative. At least I know I'm not crazy! So you can use the BB connect on your MDA200 on the Cingular network? I'd love to do that! Maybe I'll have to get myself and MDA then. Going to be expensive without a contract though :/
-Keith

[taintbad]

Keith,
Yes I can use the mda (wiza200) with the blackberry connect on Cingular, the mail worked and the calender synced but I did not run it for any extended amount of time (borrowed blackberry sim). I will be getting a blackberry sim this week and will report back how well it works in a real environment.

I have been looking at the cost of mda's on Ebay and they go for around $300-350USD for a new one, you could probably sell your 8125 for about the same.

I still think it may be possible to get the software to work if we can find a way to make the wiza100 report itself as a wiza200 as but then there is no guarentee the IMIE of a wiza100 is allowed on the RIM servers.

Also, In my search for a bbconnect solution I came across this cab for bbconnect, It loads but I can not get it to connect, the only thing I can see why it doesnt is that the userID and Password are blank under the APN settings, I have not been able to figure a out a solution but perhaps someone else can.

[Bushrod]

Here's my version. I used WINCE Cab Manager to strip out the setup.dll requirement. Installs on my PPC-6700, but doesn't run (probably because it's CDMA). Installs and runs on the emulator but doesn't detect the radio as being on. Someone please try it and let me know if it works

I'm just curious. You never know!

**EDIT** This is an edited CAB of the latest T-MO DE version.

[taintbad]

bushrod,

once step closer!!

the cab file loaded on my 8125 however it does not run the program (It starts then terminates in the background). I believe this is due to the wiza200 refrences in the dll files and the bbsettings.cpl does someone know how to edit these files and still have them function, If I use flexhex and make any changes the program does not load at all.

[bassettg]

I tried both the above BB Connect CAB files and had similar experiences. My HW is a generic HTC Wizard running the Qtek 2.17 WWE ROM.

The "normal" BB Connect package installs perfectly, starts, but I cannot get the desktop to connect (and therefore provision the service). It looks really, really close, but not close enough.

The "no setup dll" package installs, but the setup exits as mentioned above, so its not even close on my system.

Sigh........

[jorono]

According to the German T-Mobile the AKU 2.0 is not compatible with the BB Connect software yet. T-Mobile Germany plan to release a compatible BB Connect version in July. I guess we'll just have to wait until July then, or for us already running AKU 2.0 to downgrade.... too bad :cry:

[JoninLA]

Damn, I've been missing some of this discussion - sorry catching up again. So Tr0gg upgraded to the 1.13 radio and it still worked. before I blow out the ROM on my unit from a working TMo config with BB.... has anyone then tried the RUU_Prodigy_1060701_101_11310_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe QTEK ROM as last time I tried it it was a sight more stable than the TMo? If it works with the BB I'm ditching the TMo ROM immediately.

[sting0r]

JoninLA, di you try upgrading the radio yet? Hopefully an upgraded radio will give us a bit more stability. Almost getting ready to dump the phone for perhaps something a little bit more stable with blackberry connect, perhaps a E61.

[JoninLA]

sting0r, haven't done it yet but am tempted to try it. The last two days I have left my 1Gb SD card out of the phone and have not had a single freeze up or reboot. Gonna try that old AKU1 QTEK ROM in the next few days and the radio upgrade but am waiting for a device to turn up to use as a test bed in the office.

[sting0r]

JoninLA, did you decide to take the plunge with the radio rom? I actually had a problem with my minisd as well. One died on my, probably was the wizard and now my new one just got corrupted, wouldnt recognize in my wizard. I had to plug it into my pc and format. Oh well...

[JoninLA]

sting0r - you reminded me! Just blew the 1.13 radio ROm update and the device is running fine - tested send and receive on BB Connect and it works smoothly so feel free to upgrade the radio (radio rom 1.13.10).

To add to that, I just blew the ROM out with the QTEK RUU_Prodigy_1060701_101_11310_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe which has the 1.13 to see if the QTEk worked and I could ditch this TMo ROM and it also works fine with BB connect.

Edit: sorry if anyone took that advice - it installs and connects but at this time I am unable to get to send and receive mail - trying to isolate if it's the BES or the Device......

[sting0r]

Let me know how you make out. Hopefully, it's just a tempory problem for you.

[JoninLA]

OK after back and forward on ROMs's etc, the 1.13 radio ROm didn't work for me. It gets further than other later ROM's as you get the BB icon and it connects and gets an IP from the BES but it doens't send or receive email which is a slight problem.... Am now back on the 1.12 Radio ROM and will just leave it at that until the July (well, we'll see....) release of the connect for AKU2.

[sting0r]

Oh, too bad. Wish we could figure out a way to hack up a generic version of the blackberry client, so we can use on any windows mobile device with any rom. Don't know why they go through the effort to tie it to specific roms / devices....

Just picked the motorola q for my wife and boy would I kill to get blackberry connect on that. Wow it's so cool.

[Bushrod]

sting0r, try this one. I found the MPx220 version and edited it to change the Max version id. I got it to load on my MPx200 with WM5 but couldn't get anywhere else with it.

Hey, you never know!

[sting0r]

Very interesting, will see if it installs tonight. I wonder how I can test it, since I would have to get the blackberry data plan added no? Was anyone able to to that on the mpx?

[DUlrich1227]

sting0r, try this one. I found the MPx220 version and edited it to change the Max version id. I got it to load on my MPx200 with WM5 but couldn't get anywhere else with it.

Hey, you never know!

wow i just got this to install on my 8125.. i will have to wait till i got to work in the AM to see if it syncs though..

i see the icon in the programs menu but when i click on it nothing happens not sure ill report back in the am

[DUlrich1227]

welll it doesnt work yet..


the black berry desktop manager does not find the phone..

there is a PIN involved..

i am going to get with our bb administrator here and look into this more..

i am wondering if the PIN was defined in the cab install if that would work ?

[sting0r]

What rom are you using? Basically the only way to get it to work is to load up the original Tmobile UK rom. Take a look at this thread a few pages back for more info.

[jab]

Has anyone got this working on an Exec with Cingular?

Were you still using this RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe ROM?

Thanks,


JAB

[Southern_Man]

I have no issue getting a connection.

But when I install the BB Desktop software and try to associate my device with our BES3.6 server here, it responds:

"The account is not properly pr