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Carnivor
5th November 2005, 08:02 PM
This is as far as its got so far

ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Universal/VGA so far.zip

Note to have your own windows boot screen replace with your own welcomehead.96.png



You use at own risk, nothing to do with me, but ive not had any troubles so far. This will create a security hole in your WM5 windows system.

ishaqmir
5th November 2005, 08:28 PM
thanks for the efforts carnivor, but i dont think the ftp is working, or basically i cant access it. tried the browser and an ftp client. cannot connect to the server, it times out.

Carnivor
5th November 2005, 08:32 PM
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FTP_Site


access the ftp through there

sergeantash
7th November 2005, 04:28 PM
Would love to give it a go, but just not quite brave enough - anyone post any screengrabs of some popular screens to see?

SiliconS
7th November 2005, 04:40 PM
Thanks a bunch for creating the zip file, Carnivor. Makes things nice and easy :D

rilot
7th November 2005, 05:33 PM
I managed to rip the MSN messenger dlls from my kjam. Here they are. Messenger now works fine in VGA mode.

BrettS
7th November 2005, 05:59 PM
I managed to rip the MSN messenger dlls from my kjam. Here they are. Messenger now works fine in VGA mode.

Those files were set with Read Only and System attributes and Activesync refused to copy those files to my Jasjar until I removed those attributes. After that they copied fine.

Thanks for the files:)
Brett

Carnivor
7th November 2005, 06:53 PM
wicked, just popping them onto me JJ now, i was going to ask if someone could post them from another phone, the site was down, it was horrible i was awfully lost without it

joebongo
7th November 2005, 07:24 PM
What do the VGA Messenger dll's do exactly?

rilot
7th November 2005, 07:28 PM
What do the VGA Messenger dll's do exactly?

Allow MSN Messenger to work when in real VGA mode. Without them the app just hangs or fails to start up.

Carnivor
7th November 2005, 07:29 PM
Ok, those dll's are purrrfect!!!!!

ive attached the latest vga stuff time date stamped

its got the msnm dl''s alldone in it.

also i dont really think the phone skin is going to be a major problem, i see on buzz's site they're skinning the phone app, i used a couple of the tweaks to change my qvga dialler background, so maybe the rest aint as hard as first thought. I say that in the tense that buzz prob speant hours of brain cells working it all out. :)

Carnivor
7th November 2005, 07:48 PM
Ohh rilot, you are a deamon, msn this res is wicked!!! 22 contacts in landscape mode, godda be some kind of a record, i mean its actually useful now, better than the usual 2 is it? hehe

adamdon89
7th November 2005, 08:24 PM
Can anyone post some screengrabs?

vijay555
7th November 2005, 08:28 PM
I'll try to get some screenshots up tonight.

V

Carnivor
7th November 2005, 08:30 PM
here ya go, was before i started playing with the ozvga settings tho, looks better now

vijay555
7th November 2005, 08:36 PM
Carnivor, looks lovely: get the feeling that guy in the first pic just felt his trouser pocket distend and rip with the jasjar. Man, I'm afriad to pocket it and get a hernia. But it has such a nice solid feel to it, like a mini tombstone. They should advertise that as a feature! Engraved...

I've also noticed that I can feel the electric charge buzz when using it and holding the metalic top. I'd be careful of using it in the bath!

Carnivor: how do you find wisbar's skinning? Does it impact on speed? It's quite cool.

V

Carnivor
7th November 2005, 08:45 PM
wisbar is good, the .12 is alot better, but you do still notice the improvement when you close it.


buzz, i was refering to buzz_lightyear, a guru on things wm based

Soft
7th November 2005, 10:15 PM
Ok I'm a nOOb here, can someone tell me what to do with the .CAB file in the archive ?

Please :-)

craigiecraigie4
7th November 2005, 10:16 PM
Carnivor, this is just awesome! Working well with WA2 AND WAD! Quite surprised was I!

Some issues I am having that u may already know how to solve, in which case I'd appreciate ur input:
- Fonts tough on eyes. What changes do u recommend over and above ozVGA settings?
- Some dialog boxes only show half the text b4 the yes/no buttons overwrite the bottom part. Any ideas?
- PIN pad is all overlapped; not a big deal
- BUT, phone pad is a bit of an issue; too small and I have to turn off quickdial. Any ideas on this?
- My SIP keyboard loses its skin. Can the skins on buzz's board be applied somehow?
- Calculator keys too small; do u know of a working calc app cos I truly need a calculator available at all times
- My oh-so-pretty WA2 and WAD hi-res themes need to take a trip back to low-res world else the buttons are too big! Darn!

I'm gonna try sticking to this mode. Hell, all the apps I've got working well on WM5/VGA work just as well under this mode, so why go back? and PIE is OH SO PRETTTTTTYYYY!!!!

PS: What do u use for screen shots on WM5? Would like to post a few of mine.

dalelane
7th November 2005, 10:37 PM
- Fonts tough on eyes. What changes do u recommend over and above ozVGA settings?

hmmm.... that's what i'm thinking - for the Today screen anyway. i wanna be able to read the stuff here with a glance, and the teeny fonts make that difficult. is there anything we can do about this?

sergeantash
7th November 2005, 10:38 PM
How long do we think it'll be before someone develops a nice easy to use App (such as Windows Display=>Settings) to change these resolutions? I'm anxious to do this having seen your screenshots, but bit scared of knackering the thing!

craigiecraigie4
7th November 2005, 10:40 PM
Ashley: relax. The WORST that can happen is a hard reset. Quite frankly, and hard reset can b a refreshing opportunity to get your JJ working perfectly. See another thread I started on this (search for "tips-n-tricks").

psteel
7th November 2005, 10:44 PM
So how do you install this baby and is the latest version on this pages link.

Also, What do you use for skinning? AND will your skinning app work with SPB Pocket plus (I'm wondering whether to de-install that)

Thanks
P

vijay555
7th November 2005, 11:05 PM
Guys, just to give you an idea how much you can see on VGA (I'm using VJNina font):
http://www.vijay555.com/vj/screenshots/vga1.jpg

http://www.vijay555.com/vj/screenshots/vga2.jpg

Thanks to all you guys who made this happen.

This is a link to the Nina font. I don't think you'll need it, but it comes from the Smartphone. VJNina is a cut down version for size (57k instead of 128k), removing some non-Western characters.
VJNina font (http://www.vijay555.com/vj/nina/vjnina.zip)
If anyone has any copyright issues, please ask and I'll remove it.

V

Carnivor
7th November 2005, 11:09 PM
VGA 1824 071105.zip is the latest set of files ive posted just up a few comments, its all the files to date we have i think. including the msn messenger additions



ps hey vijay555 how you get the pics working like that in a post?

vijay555
7th November 2005, 11:18 PM
Carnivor - I'm hosting them on my own website.

V

dalelane
7th November 2005, 11:38 PM
Thanks to all you guys who made this happen.

hear hear - this is really amazing.... i am grinning like a loon. it's so pretty! :D

vijay555
7th November 2005, 11:41 PM
Heh, we'll all end up blind though! I've already had to have my eyes lasered once, getting through puberty :oops:. Another few years and we'll all need 19inch PDAs! Beautiful screen though...

V

sayreul
8th November 2005, 12:22 AM
can someone explain me what i have to do with those files ;)

i have a french SPV M5000. it will work ?

thanks a lot

sergeantash
8th November 2005, 12:31 AM
Incredible dude, incredible! So from a refresh Corp O2 installed Exec how quickly would it take with your files to get it up and running in VGA?

ITs a shame there's no way to switch to VGA for just Internet Explorer?

eagle 1
8th November 2005, 03:54 AM
This is fantastic for using the browser and surfing the web. Some of the other apps it seems to cut off the buttons,graphics, etc.

But wow....great browsing

see examples below:

before
1) normal pocket ie using default view
http://www.rich-michael.com/images/pc_capture4.jpg

2) normal pocket ie using desktop view
http://www.rich-michael.com/images/pc_capture3.jpg

after applying the vga app
3) usatoday using vga app desktop view
http://www.rich-michael.com/images/pc_capture2.jpg

4) terminal services client using vga app
http://www.rich-michael.com/images/pc_capture1.jpg

craigiecraigie4
8th November 2005, 08:59 AM
Incredible dude, incredible! So from a refresh Corp O2 installed Exec how quickly would it take with your files to get it up and running in VGA?

ITs a shame there's no way to switch to VGA for just Internet Explorer?

SO fast: Copy files to \windows (20 seconds), copy across .cab and run (30 seconds), copy across and run ozVGA.exe. Machine reboots and you're in VGA (1 minute). Run ozVGA again and u reboot and ur back into wank-VGA.

U can swap between the 2 modes, or u can change to VGA and start working on changing your settings for themes, fonts, and phone pad to get a fully working device.

dherrero
8th November 2005, 09:12 AM
where is across.cab?

Carnivor
8th November 2005, 09:13 AM
i think its more copy across the cab, not across.cab LOL :lol: :lol:

dherrero
8th November 2005, 09:20 AM
ahhhh, jeje. I ve extracted the files from VGAmessengerdlls.rar but i cant copy these 2 files in windows. What can i do?

dherrero
8th November 2005, 09:26 AM
Done. I had to use command Attrib.exe to change de System att

WMF
8th November 2005, 09:29 AM
This is great! Works like a charm. I agree it would be best if this was just for IE as it makes everything a bit small on the rest of the system. Is there a browser that runs in VGA mode?

To get it working I copied all the files over to the root of my device (I kept the .dlls in the 'Copy to Windows' folder. Once on the device, I highlighted and copied and pasted all the .dll files into the Windows folder using File Explorer. I had to do this a the Windows folder didn't show up when exploring the device using activesync (but it does on File explorer on the device itself).

Chris

dherrero
8th November 2005, 09:40 AM
It is nice.....I hope my eyes dont lose their health......

SiliconS
8th November 2005, 09:45 AM
So, as explained in the other thread about VGA, this solution means that we're using a certificate system that leaves our Universals rather insecure since it bypasses the built-in WM5 signed DLL system (or something). This is necessary to ensure that WM5 doesn't reject the DLLs we're copying over. Or something... ;)

But what are the consequences of this for us in the real world? What risk are we actually taking? Does it just mean that someone could write some malicious code and trick us into installing it as a system DLL on our Universals and that WM5 wouldn't prevent this?

If so, I don't think we're taking a huge risk. What do y'all think?

Carnivor
8th November 2005, 09:59 AM
I dont think its a big problem, aslong as your careful where you get your software from. and whats the worst that can happen, have to hard reset to sort JJ back out again.

rilot
8th November 2005, 10:18 AM
As far as securiyy is concerned it puts us back to the level of WM2003SE where there was no DLL signing at all.

sergeantash
8th November 2005, 10:45 AM
I think your screenshots have convinced me, going to have a go tonight - how long before someone compiles this switching process into a mini application together with a proper install routine that backs up any system files replaced during the install?

vijay555
8th November 2005, 10:46 AM
Exactly. WM5 has not been out for long, and we're all just getting used to signed code I guess. If a developer has a certificate he wants to use to finish it off, I guess he/we could do that, but for now, I guess we all just have to trust each other :wink:!

Can the dpi not be changed dynamically? Does it always require a reboot? can you send out a systemchange message or similar to force the system to redraw at qvga dpi on request?

V

Carnivor
8th November 2005, 10:57 AM
no system files are replaced, only added to, anything with a .96. is an addition to the universal, but its standard on the qvga devices that run wm5.

sergeantash
8th November 2005, 10:58 AM
Ahhhhh ok, might give this a go now then, hehe!

SiliconS
8th November 2005, 10:59 AM
I think your screenshots have convinced me, going to have a go tonight - how long before someone compiles this switching process into a mini application together with a proper install routine that backs up any system files replaced during the install?
Err... there are no files replaced during install... You can always delete the files you copied over any time. I'm not sure how you'd uninstall the certificate CAB though. :?:
And the switching process is as simple as running OzVGA and waiting for the machine to soft-reset. How much simpler would you like it? :)

Edit: Yeah, what Carnivor said ;)

otimov
8th November 2005, 12:51 PM
Thanks a lot to you all for these informations....
one question....
How to enlarge the size of the top bar. (and bottom bar as well)..?
Problem also using wisbar (expea2) (i can see icon in vga mode but cutted, because of the thin size of bar)
thanks

snapple
8th November 2005, 01:10 PM
Hi,

Where can I get the messenger dll's rar file??

Thanks,


Alan

Carnivor
8th November 2005, 01:16 PM
VGA 1824 071105.zip contains the msn dll's already

NinjaDonkey
8th November 2005, 01:29 PM
I've notice that the intellidialler app on my Exec doesn't render well at all and is unusable when I select the first letter of a contact - the list of names matching that letter draws over the dial-pad... not very useful...

Has anyone got a fix for this at all?

Input is greatly appreciated.

snapple
8th November 2005, 01:41 PM
Sorry,

I must be missing some information!

... In that case... where do I get the VGA 1824 071105.zip

I can only find the VGA ONLY zip on the uploads/universal directory/

Thanks,


Alan

dalelane
8th November 2005, 01:47 PM
couple of pages back in this topic

think you need to be logged in to see attachments

seal
8th November 2005, 02:02 PM
Can someone help, I can't copy the messenger Dlls to the windows folder on the Pocket PC or any folder it just keeps saying it can do it, I have checked and they are not read only files.

Please :oops:

sergeantash
8th November 2005, 02:16 PM
I think if you read back in this thread you'll read that you must remove the READ ONLY and SYSTEM attributes.

I really don't think you ought to be doing this if you're not happy reading the detailed accurate guides these guys are producing...at least if you've not carefully read this entire thread!!

Is it worth building a Readme.txt to shove into every zip file NOW containing some instructions, to be padded out at a later stage?

craigiecraigie4
8th November 2005, 02:17 PM
Carnivor, this is just awesome! Working well with WA2 AND WAD! Quite surprised was I!

Some issues I am having that u may already know how to solve, in which case I'd appreciate ur input:
- Fonts tough on eyes. What changes do u recommend over and above ozVGA settings?
- Some dialog boxes only show half the text b4 the yes/no buttons overwrite the bottom part. Any ideas?
- PIN pad is all overlapped; not a big deal
- BUT, phone pad is a bit of an issue; too small and I have to turn off quickdial. Any ideas on this?
- My SIP keyboard loses its skin. Can the skins on buzz's board be applied somehow?
- Calculator keys too small; do u know of a working calc app cos I truly need a calculator available at all times
- My oh-so-pretty WA2 and WAD hi-res themes need to take a trip back to low-res world else the buttons are too big! Darn!

I'm gonna try sticking to this mode. Hell, all the apps I've got working well on WM5/VGA work just as well under this mode, so why go back? and PIE is OH SO PRETTTTTTYYYY!!!!

PS: What do u use for screen shots on WM5? Would like to post a few of mine.

Can someone who's more clued up on VGA conversions compile a short list of issues, and what the liklihood of having them solved is - based on past blueangel experience.

seal
8th November 2005, 02:21 PM
Thanks but I ended up coping the Rar File to the Jasjar and extracting it there and coping into windows.

Carnivor
8th November 2005, 02:34 PM
ive posted somewhere what font settings ive got in ozvga, not purrfect but getting better.

ive not noticed my dialogs appear wrongly, these are part of ozvga settings.

the pin screen - havent got a clue how to fix that one, on mine its the same hight as the original, just half the width, so the buttons are skinny, quite possibly fixable if we can find out how its written

the phone dialler i think can be fixed, from what buzz and the chaps have done already it could well be a hex edit to correct, or even create new skins, i am able to change the dialler background just by reg tweak, ( its in wiki) and buzz's site goes on about other reg keys that arnt there by default.

the on screen keyboard, poss fixable, if the skinning can be fixed, i tried buzz's keyboard skins and they didnt appear to work on the universal.

Calculator, vijay555 is writing a calc himself, i'll be assuming its gonna be of kickarse standard and have alot more than the default calc in it, with all the extra resolution, full blown scientific could be managable.

Carnivor
8th November 2005, 02:35 PM
Found em

in oz im using these settings

1200 not bold
1350 not bold
19
19
19

750,900,975,1200,1500

The font arrays relate to the text size slider in the screen settings

sergeantash
8th November 2005, 02:50 PM
Wow, I'm up and running! that was quick...a little scary but very easy!

Guide for newbies to this...
1. Soft reset your Universal first to clear any locks
2. Unzip the entire archive onto your PC into a single directory
3. Copy ALL of the files into your PocketPC's Windows directory
4. Run the SdkCerts.cab included in the files.
5. Create a shortcut to the ozVGA.exe file within your Windows Directory and place into Start Menu
6. Startup ozVGA and click the lower lefthand button
7. Your device will restart in your new resolution!

Hope this helps, I'm a happy man now...although in a week I'm sure my eyes will be straining, hehe

vijay555
8th November 2005, 02:56 PM
Carnivor - wow, that's high expectations!

I'll look into scientific calfculator stuff. This has to go on my list of stuff to do though, so please don't expect it too soon. I'm sure others will put themselves on the block before I do, but I think frankly, an abacus would be better than the current effort, so I'll get around to it.

Pin screen should be doable: anyone up for writing a new one? I am hoping to, but again, way down my list!

Also phone dialer, eventually, but don't tell anyone yet! Some way off for now. I'm only getting an hour a day to program this stuff after work!

V

SiliconS
8th November 2005, 03:05 PM
Wow, I'm up and running! that was quick...a little scary but very easy!

Guide for newbies to this...
1. Soft reset your Universal first to clear any locks
2. Unzip the entire archive onto your PC into a single directory
3. Copy ALL of the files into your PocketPC's Windows directory
4. Create a shortcut to the ozVGA.exe file within your Windows Directory and place into Start Menu
5. Startup ozVGA and click the lower lefthand button
6. Your device will restart in your new resolution!

Hope this helps, I'm a happy man now...although in a week I'm sure my eyes will be straining, hehe
We told you it was easy! :P

You don't mention opening the CAB file on your Universal. Did you do this? I got the impression that this was important to the process, but maybe I'm wrong? :?:

agga
8th November 2005, 03:21 PM
Hi Carnivor and the all others

Could you tell me if the naming of the files (for VGA) *.96.* is screen resolution or language related or something else?
I've got a M5k in german :? and all those files to be replaced have *.192.*

THX

Cheers, AGGA

sergeantash
8th November 2005, 03:34 PM
Wooops, sorry just added that - what exactly does SdkCerts.cab do then? I have looked but can't find an exact description?

Carnivor
8th November 2005, 03:47 PM
Hi Carnivor and the all others

Could you tell me if the naming of the files (for VGA) *.96.* is screen resolution or language related or something else?
I've got a M5k in german :? and all those files to be replaced have *.192.*

THX

Cheers, AGGA


theyre resolution related, although they could be language related aswell, your best bet is to find a german that has a blueangel or summut running wm5 and get the .96. dlls off them, if you have tried these and theyre wrong language, on the universal, these files dont replace anything, theyre just additions

Vigay, i have faith in you!!!!! :)

I'll have a look myself tonight about the dialler skin.

SdkCerts.cab removes the dll certification required, putting your phone into a developer mode as such, so you dont need to register the dll's

SiliconS
8th November 2005, 03:49 PM
Hi Carnivor and the all others

Could you tell me if the naming of the files (for VGA) *.96.* is screen resolution or language related or something else?
I've got a M5k in german :? and all those files to be replaced have *.192.*

THX

Cheers, AGGA
The number 96 or 192 relates to the scaling of the display in the two modes: VGA (genuine) and VGA (scaled). The WM5 version in the OS that comes with the Universal contains the files suited for a scaled VGA display, i.e. with 640x480 pixels but with most on-screen elements resized to show at normal size on these machines' screens. The new files in the Zip archive are designed to show these elements at their genuine pixel size, which will make them appear very small when the screen is set to true VGA.

Basically, your OS needs both sets of files if you want the option to run at either scaled VGA (as default) or true VGA (as the hack allows).

I don't know exactly what the .92 and .192 refer to, but there's an entry in the registry with the same value choices, so I guess it tells the system the number of dpi to display or something. :?:

Carnivor
8th November 2005, 03:50 PM
192 and 92 relates to the dots per inch

otimov
8th November 2005, 05:24 PM
Carnivor, this is just awesome! Working well with WA2 AND WAD! Quite surprised was I!

Some issues I am having that u may already know how to solve, .......

My WA2 doesn't work well !!
the bar is too thin to display correctly the expea2 icon
what can i do to solve the problem?
is there any registry keys to edit in order to enlarge the bar ?

:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

Carnivor
8th November 2005, 05:31 PM
try some other wa2 skins, i found the default was the best one, but ive stopped using it now, i miss it but you definatly notice the speed pick back up after closing it down

evo8
8th November 2005, 05:32 PM
Hi guys, thanks for the great work. I was just wondering if anyone knows how to adjust the volume in OzVGA mode? Because the volume slider is no longer in control of the speaker/phone volume and the speaker icon is missing from the Today screen. Please help.

Thanks :wink:

superbowl
8th November 2005, 05:32 PM
Hi ..

works really great ... right now we only need the ability to switch the resolution without rebooting ;-)

- Superbowl

SiliconS
8th November 2005, 06:24 PM
Hi guys, thanks for the great work. I was just wondering if anyone knows how to adjust the volume in OzVGA mode? Because the volume slider is no longer in control of the speaker/phone volume and the speaker icon is missing from the Today screen. Please help.

Thanks :wink:
I don't have this problem - I can use the slider to control volume, and the speaker icon is displayed fine on my Start bar, between the phone icon and the date/time, just as normal.

What software are you running?

BrettS
8th November 2005, 06:25 PM
SdkCerts.cab removes the dll certification required, putting your phone into a developer mode as such, so you dont need to register the dll's

Are you sure that's what it does? I thought it simply installed a 'test' SDK trusted certificate. That way, when developers are testing applications they can sign them with the SDK certificate instead of getting a 'real' certificate.

The security hole that everyone is talking about happens because theoretically anyone could go out and get the SDK and sign their virus or other 'bad' application with it. Since our devices now trust the SDK certificates, they won't prompt us with a certificate warning for those apps. But that only applies to apps that people have signed using the SDK certificate.

Brett

Carnivor
8th November 2005, 06:48 PM
heh, mine was a very very brief version, theres a post somewhere with exactlly what it does, but your description was pretty close


ta

evo8
8th November 2005, 06:56 PM
Not really good at this...but I simply downloaded the link on the first page of this topic, "VGAmessengerdlls.rar". Then I extracted the files and placed them into the root folder. Once that was done since windows folder doesn't show via activesync I used file explorer to copy clip the entire extracted "windows folder files" folder into the windows folder and ran the cab file at the root folder. Did I do something wrong?

Thanks :shock:

Carnivor
8th November 2005, 07:01 PM
VGA 1824 071105.zip are the ones you need on the 1st page, this thread

evo8
8th November 2005, 07:11 PM
Cool, thanks. Just to be sure, do i need any other settings aside from just running the cab and .exe file? Should I have all three of the extracted files within the windows folder? Or, it doesn't make any difference...sorry I just want to make sure that i am doing the right thing.

appreciate it... :roll:

agga
8th November 2005, 07:20 PM
It worked on M5000 german. One problem: the dialing pad. Missing buttons; when pressing 1st number the selection screen (known numners) appears and covers the rest of the dialin pad.
For surfing and file explorers, TS is fine.

Carnivor
8th November 2005, 07:30 PM
phcanhtc.dll could be responsible for the phone problm

Its in HKLM\Security\Phone\Skin

or read this,

http://buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=59&func=view&id=5075&catid=36

Just edit "cprog.exe" with hexa-editor ...

there is no resources on this file but lot of text in hexa-code ..

you can find a text ... "SecurityPhoneSkinEnabled" ....

i'm try this on
[HKEY_CURRENT_USERSecurityPhone" witout success
i'm try this on
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESecurityPhone"
after soft-reset , my dialpad was .... BLANK !!!!

with search a little in hexacoide of cprog.exe , i've found
some texte like :

talkendbutton windowsdlrbtnend_up_port.gif ....
bmptransparency , bmpglyph , bmpnormal ... and so one and so one ..

i've tested all choice ... soft reset after every change ..

a long and hard work ...

but i've found a lot of things

in every registry key of buttons , we cvan add String values :
"Nm" for the font name
on "PROGRESSPortrait"
we can add a regustry key named "text" with a string value
"Nm" for the font name to operator text ,elapsed-time text ...


i'll make a cab file with all registry possibility .
with this one , you can understand all the registry possibility to skin the dialpad

ishaqmir
8th November 2005, 08:42 PM
awesome work carnivor!! ;-)

does anyone know how to increase the size of the top start menu bar and the one at the bottom, cuz they're toooooooooo small to use when walking about etc. the font needs to be made bigger and the buttons etc.

thanks

Ish

evo8
8th November 2005, 09:50 PM
Ok. I tried the file "VGA 1824 071105.zip" per Carnivor's suggestion, but for some odd reason my icons on the top menu are missing. The only thing that shows is the time, gprs icon & ie explorer text (no microsoft flag, browse arrow, or the lock symbol) . Am I doing something wrong??? Please help.

Thanks :roll:

Carnivor
8th November 2005, 10:06 PM
what rom versions you running? could be part of your base build that is the problem

SiliconS
8th November 2005, 10:09 PM
Ok. I tried the file "VGA 1824 071105.zip" per Carnivor's suggestion, but for some odd reason my icons on the top menu are missing. The only thing that shows is the time, gprs icon & ie explorer text (no microsoft flag, browse arrow, or the lock symbol) . Am I doing something wrong??? Please help.

Thanks :roll:
Browse arrow and lock symbol? What are these?

Are you trying this hack on Windows Mobile 5 on a Universal? (Might sound like a silly question, but I'm curious :) ) If so, what are the icons you're referring to and what do they normally do? In the task bar on my Universal I've got the Start menu flag and title, then a wide space ;), then the connection (GPRS, WiFi, ActiveSync) icon, then the phone status icon, then the speaker/volume icon, then the date/time and finally a space or the OK/close button (depending on the screen I'm in). What do you have?

SiliconS
8th November 2005, 10:10 PM
Damnit, Carnivor, you keep beating me to posts today! hehe :D

evo8
8th November 2005, 11:15 PM
ok, I am running rom version:1.13.53 wwe
rom date: 09/23/05
radio version: 1.03.01
protocol version: 42.36.p8
extrom version: 1.13.137wwe

Don't know why, my jasjare is missing the flag, the lock symbol beneath that, the sync symbol on the other side, the antenna, speaker and the go-to arrow from the top browser bar when i am in vga mode.

please help... really want to use vga..thanks :oops:

sergeantash
8th November 2005, 11:39 PM
My Dad who also just bought an Exec had the same missing icons - in the end he hard reset into Corp mode, and all was then fine - I think its some conflict with the O2 Active crap...

Incidently, whats this ssdaemon (or something similar) thing thats in my Startup folder? something like that?

evo8
9th November 2005, 04:27 AM
No.... So you think I have to hard reset in order to retain the attain the missing icons? But I am running a Jasjar... Please tell me otherwise.

thanks :cry:

craigiecraigie4
9th November 2005, 08:16 AM
I believe it's the voice dialer

shivafool
9th November 2005, 08:25 AM
sending this from my newly enhanced jasjar
thanks to all you wonderful people the VGA screen is finally being put to full use.

evo8
9th November 2005, 08:26 AM
Thanks, but I just hard reseted... still the same dilemma could you please elaborate? Just installed voice command.

thanks for your help :P

smart2003
9th November 2005, 09:30 AM
I ran OzVGA.exe at my MDA4, but windows boot screen did't change. I flashed my MDA4 as i-mate to make the interface English. How can I change it's boot screen to T-Mobile?

evo8
9th November 2005, 09:31 AM
Thanks to all for helping me out! Vga is fixed....very sweet indeed.

wow... very nice...posting in vga!

Thanks everyone!

vijay555
9th November 2005, 10:50 AM
Guys, there's a standard registry setting for enlarging the caption bar.
I use ceTuner to do the same.

Bottom soft keys. I can enlarge them on a per app basis, but otherwise it requires a memory resident program polling the system (or a system hook), which I'm generally against...

V

hrb
9th November 2005, 12:22 PM
Hi Carnivor
Great job !
Works perfectly well on my JJ
Cheers
hrb

sergeantash
9th November 2005, 12:29 PM
Switching to high res on the fly is really what I need, I find that for everyday use the highres is literally TOO high res for common everyday finger use, but being able to switch to highres for browsing alone without a soft reset would be excellent.

You mention you've just installed Voice Command, is this free? and is it the Microsoft version?

evo8
9th November 2005, 07:12 PM
Installed it as a trial version... works pretty well but not when device is closed.. hopefully ms will come out with one that works soon..

:roll:

SiliconS
10th November 2005, 02:46 PM
phcanhtc.dll could be responsible for the phone problm

Its in HKLM\Security\Phone\Skin

or read this,

http://buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=59&func=view&id=5075&catid=36
Dunno whether this is useful to you guys, but the default skin of the phone is much, much better with full VGA than the O2 skin. Although the buttons are too small for finger use, they don't overlap and the text is the right size. It's all readable.

Apologies if you know this already or if you're not using the O2 skins, but there must be many people using the O2 Exec with the skinned phone app who don't know that it's much better in VGA mode without the O2 skin. :idea:

dalelane
10th November 2005, 02:49 PM
how do you switch skin?

SiliconS
10th November 2005, 03:17 PM
how do you switch skin?
Umm... not sure :oops: lol
I just did a hard reset and didn't install any O2 customisations so I have a completely unbranded machine now. This is how I noticed the fact that the default skin is better. Hopefully someone else will know how to change dialler skins.

dalelane
12th November 2005, 10:41 AM
ah - found it

you can do it from the registry - HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin

change 'Enabled' to 0, and you get the default skin

fcaeiro
12th November 2005, 10:16 PM
Hi there
I 'm using my jasjar at full VGA (i can't go back) i was used to VGA on my toshiba e800...
But the phone its realy a problem...


i already tried to install mphone plus , but i can't install it...

VGA SKIN will be the ultimate for vga JASJAR..
A big thank you for carnivor...

SiliconS
12th November 2005, 11:10 PM
I'm not sure it's something as simple as changing the phone skin. Surely the skin just recolours the buttons - it doesn't change their position?

Have we tried the old (.192) phone dll with the new screen settings, but perhaps with a renamed file?

e.g. To get VGA we set the dpi at 96 in the registry and now the system is looking for phone.96.dll (or whatever the file is called) but this gives us really small buttons.
What if we took the old phone.192.dll and renamed it to phone.96.dll? Would the system look for the file, find it all signed and happy, and then use that to display the old large-button phone pad?

What is the correct file in the zip in this thread that affects the phone? Does anybody know?

orinoco
12th November 2005, 11:39 PM
Hello: can anyone point me to the download site? The FTP referred to earlier on this thread is empty (?).

Thanks,

Fernando

SiliconS
12th November 2005, 11:44 PM
Hello: can anyone point me to the download site? The FTP referred to earlier on this thread is empty (?).

Thanks,

Fernando
There's a zip file attached to one of the posts on page 1 that contains everything you need.

xda_dev
14th November 2005, 11:45 PM
Been trying to get the VGA to work but im missing the windows icon, the wifi icon, OK button, and my programs are coming up with different icons then they should be coming up with. dont know whats the problem. my rom is fully updated with my JasJar.

rilot
15th November 2005, 12:25 AM
Sounds like you haven't copied the dll files in to your Windows directory xda_dev

xda_dev
15th November 2005, 04:59 PM
Sounds like you haven't copied the dll files in to your Windows directory xda_dev

that was it. Thanks rilot got it working now! Only thing is the phone app is kind of off. Some of the buttons are missing and it looks like its squished to the upper left hand part of the screen. What should i do to fix this

chris_khho
15th November 2005, 08:18 PM
Thanks for this wonderful software.

Is it possible that this sw only works in Pocket IE / Work / Excel cause mostly I only need these applications in true VGA mode.

Cheers,

Carnivor
15th November 2005, 08:36 PM
Majority works, pword and pexcel is wicked to use

zohaer21
15th November 2005, 09:23 PM
hi
is it possible after installing (or copying these files ) to JJ to revert back to the original setttings (non soper vga settings)
if so how?

thanks

aw
15th November 2005, 11:39 PM
lovin' it. If only the dailer wasn't so petite; it's the only app I would like to control with my finger...

Carnivor
16th November 2005, 08:11 AM
hi
is it possible after installing (or copying these files ) to JJ to revert back to the original setttings (non soper vga settings)
if so how?

thanks

yes, run ozvga again and hit the seVGA button, soft boots back to normal settings.

zohaer21
16th November 2005, 06:32 PM
hi
how do i pput messenger dll files into windows...??? get some cant overwrite error

pinele
16th November 2005, 07:05 PM
VGA skin for the phone dialler.

Please help.. My english is very very low.
OZVGA work fine but the problem is VGA skin for the phone dialler.
The button is very small and orrible.
How can i skin. there is a aprogram or other way???? like this ...

http://buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=59&func=view&id=5075&catid=36&limit=15&limitstart=45 GUGI_SAT POst....

negatong
18th November 2005, 10:17 AM
Does anybody know how to enlarger the font size in system menu and system tray? They are really straining my eyes.

But, the font size of application content (Word or IE) can be easily changed by setting in ozVGA.

agga
18th November 2005, 12:14 PM
Start -> Settings -> System -> Screen -> Text Size -> move left/right

alexymwu
20th November 2005, 04:30 AM
I'm using Dopod 900 (Traditional Chinese Rom) and work fine with ozVGA but cannot find/initiate my input methods in real vga mode. Anyone can help me?

john_doe0123
20th November 2005, 03:01 PM
Good uti ! But does anybody of you do have the standard setting (factory default) ? The resolution seems to be different still after I removed the tool. I changed the SEVGA settings in the too as I thought it will be set back after hardreset ....

buzz_lightyear
21st November 2005, 11:12 AM
Hi guys,
well, i didn't read the entire topic, but it seems to me, that you use ozVGA here... right???

If you go to:
[HKLM\Drivers\Display\GPE]

there are:
LogicalPixelsY=dword:C0
LogicalPixelsX=dword:C0

That is 192 (dpi).
Just change both to 96 (decimal) or 60 (hex), that is 96 dpi.
After reboot your screen will be in very high resolution.
i use 128 dpi, coz it's fine or me.

With the setting above, there's no need for ozVGA.

Well, maybe someone said this before... If so, then sorry.. i was too lazy to read the whole thing here.. :o))

buzz

hrb
21st November 2005, 11:19 AM
Well, I knew that about the Registry.
But ozVGA gives you the possibility to flip between the resolutions.
For some apps, true VGA is not well suited.
Cheers
hrb

SiliconS
21st November 2005, 12:16 PM
As well as the quick 'n easy flip, ozVGA also takes care of font size settings too, so it's more than a single registry setting for the resolution.

But I'm glad that buzz is reading this thread... ;)

hrb
21st November 2005, 12:34 PM
Yep, it's great to see Buzz take action on the Universal !
He should now find a way to replace the Splash Screen.
I just have seen the i-mate Screen often enough (although I love my JJ)
Cheers
hrb

chris_khho
23rd November 2005, 02:57 PM
Phone skin for real VGA mode....anyone?????

The other WM5 one shouldn't be applicable cause it has video phone function..........

universaldoc
23rd November 2005, 06:34 PM
Ok, i just haveta say this!!!

I am going to go BLIND (bear in mind i am jus 24) by the end of the week if i dont stop using the ozvga proggie. Isn't there some better way to make the fonts appear about 25% larger in all applications?

dazzled
23rd November 2005, 11:29 PM
First off thanks Buzz, got everything spot on except phone dialler which as mentioned b4 is a little wee :lol:

man2003
23rd November 2005, 11:40 PM
It is not working fine with my Arabized Jasjar :(. Hope if you can help us to get it work with ImagiNet Arabizer... Thanks a lot in advance...

buzz_lightyear
23rd November 2005, 11:42 PM
As well as the quick 'n easy flip, ozVGA also takes care of font size settings too, so it's more than a single registry setting for the resolution.

But I'm glad that buzz is reading this thread... ;)

:o)))
on the other side, this pure reg mod is native 1:1 solution. No middle software needed, no calculations...
anyone wants to benchmark it?

The Videocall button is add-on. it is not part of dialer app by default.

Real VGA Phone skins are probably included in WM5 device emulator.

buzz

darkblak
24th November 2005, 08:39 AM
Hi guys,
well, i didn't read the entire topic, but it seems to me, that you use ozVGA here... right???

If you go to:
[HKLM\Drivers\Display\GPE]

there are:
LogicalPixelsY=dword:C0
LogicalPixelsX=dword:C0

That is 192 (dpi).
Just change both to 96 (decimal) or 60 (hex), that is 96 dpi.
After reboot your screen will be in very high resolution.
i use 128 dpi, coz it's fine or me.

With the setting above, there's no need for ozVGA.

buzz

All hail the mighty buzz.

Works for me - a bit jerky in places and a few icons missing - but a lot easier to use than ozvga - THANK YOU.

seal
24th November 2005, 11:04 AM
but a lot easier to use than ozvga

Darkblak what do you mean by it is alot easier to use, are you refering to the first setup or the on going use of the Pocket PC on a daily basis.[/code]

buzz_lightyear
24th November 2005, 11:05 AM
if you are missing icons, just copy the VGA files posted here over to your \Windows directory. Their filenames must match the resolution, you use.

So if you set the registry to 144 dpi, then you must rename all VGA files from:
filename.96.dll to filename.144.dll

System looks up the display resolution and tries to load corresponding resource files on boot...

:o)
buzz

zpdy
24th November 2005, 11:06 AM
missing dll's phone (dialpad not support vga),
Some menus with small fonts (exp. TCPMP\BETAPLAYER in options menu) there is way to sizeup the font in all dialogs?

Azhad
24th November 2005, 07:05 PM
I have modified skype 1.2.0.4 to work in real VGA, it is in beta but working.

The keypad is still small, but usable.

Just replace the old skype.exe with the new one (make a backup copy just in case).
Work in QVGA and in VGA mode.

ftp://xda:xda@xda-developers.com/Uploads/Skype.rar

(The upload function of the forum don't work for me...)

Azhad

Pyrofer
24th November 2005, 07:32 PM
"on the other side, this pure reg mod is native 1:1 solution. No middle software needed, no calculations...
anyone wants to benchmark it?"

I had assumed that all OzVGA did was edit the registry in lots of places, and did what you suggest for us.

Are you saying that its a program hack that stays resident in memory?
I thought when it rebooted that OzVGA was no longer running and windows just refered to the new registry settings as per your registry keys hack, is this wrong?

buzz_lightyear
24th November 2005, 11:24 PM
"I had assumed that all OzVGA did was edit the registry in lots of places, and did what you suggest for us.

Are you saying that its a program hack that stays resident in memory?
I thought when it rebooted that OzVGA was no longer running and windows just refered to the new registry settings as per your registry keys hack, is this wrong?

Hi Pyrofer,
i never used ozVGA, so i have no idea, how it qworks.. :o)

buzz

darkblak
25th November 2005, 08:10 AM
Is anyone running Journal Bar in VGA mode? If so, how did you manage to get ths skins working. I've tried following the instructions but still can't get the display working as you would expect.

The only way I can get it to work is to rename all of the QVGA skins to VGA skins and this seems to be the way forward.

zpdy
25th November 2005, 01:48 PM
"I had assumed that all OzVGA did was edit the registry in lots of places, and did what you suggest for us.

Are you saying that its a program hack that stays resident in memory?
I thought when it rebooted that OzVGA was no longer running and windows just refered to the new registry settings as per your registry keys hack, is this wrong?

Hi Pyrofer,
i never used ozVGA, so i have no idea, how it qworks.. :o)

buzz

wowwww, i think you must see it ... i think you can do better work :) maybe changing screen mode without reset...

zpdy
27th November 2005, 10:52 AM
No DLL for dialpad yet ? :\

chris_khho
27th November 2005, 12:01 PM
Right....

Finally, I think at this moment, I just need a good phone pad skin for the VGA screen........

All the other features, programs working good in my O2 Exec...

Cheers,

buzz_lightyear
27th November 2005, 03:24 PM
Right....

Finally, I think at this moment, I just need a good phone pad skin for the VGA screen........

All the other features, programs working good in my O2 Exec...

Cheers,

i think, there is Razr VGA skin on buzzdev.net

buzz

universaldoc
27th November 2005, 03:54 PM
Can someone post a screenshot again with their VGA "enabled" please. I really find the fonts to be EXTREMELY tiny to read. Perhaps i am doing something wrong!!!

vijay555
27th November 2005, 04:29 PM
Fonts are small!
http://www.vijay555.com/vj/screenshots/vga1.jpg

V

chris_khho
27th November 2005, 04:52 PM
Right....

Finally, I think at this moment, I just need a good phone pad skin for the VGA screen........

All the other features, programs working good in my O2 Exec...

Cheers,

i think, there is Razr VGA skin on buzzdev.net

buzz

The problem is that VGA skin is not for true VGA skin I think.....

See the attached picture.

Thanks for your reply...

Cheers,

buzz_lightyear
27th November 2005, 05:26 PM
thanx Chris,
now i know what you mean...

buzz

seal
27th November 2005, 11:11 PM
I had a play around with the files from the dialer and took them into Corel Photo Paint and made them 4 times the size and it worked the button was 4 times the size, but it is under the top layer, where is the file for the top layer of the phone, I can't work it out, I don't know enough. Please someone we need a large phone skin.

Cheers

vijay555
27th November 2005, 11:53 PM
Guys, I've fixed the dialler.

eg
Before
http://www.vijay555.com/vj/releases/vjbigphone/HorizontalOff.jpg

After:
http://www.vijay555.com/vj/releases/vjbigphone/HorizontalOn.jpg

Post and tell me how it goes. It's beta and for the English version only!
VJBigPhone (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=186677#186677)

V

chris_khho
28th November 2005, 01:24 AM
Hi V,

But the video call button is lost?

Thanks a lot and I'm looking forward to your modified one.

Cheers,

vijay555
28th November 2005, 01:25 AM
:) I didn't know there was a video call button. I never installed anything from the ext rom and I guess it was from there.

I'm working on it right now.

V

szandokan
28th November 2005, 01:12 PM
Fantastic work V!

Just an observation that may help improve this further...

I noticed that the Video Call button, both before and after the resize fix, renders differently to all the other buttons. It scales well to VGA. That is, the corners are not cut off, before the resize, and after the resize, the text gets resized perfectly as well as positioned well. What is different about this button? Can this be used as a clue to resize the other buttons the same way too?

steverae
29th November 2005, 11:19 AM
Been playing around with the reg settings described by my good friend Buzz_Lightyear...

Defo works better than ozvga... However, the .96 is a bit too small for narmal use SO

tryed buzz's choice of 128 but this looks a bit aquashed, so has anyone tried any dfferent values to get a slightly larger screen size that looks in proportion and with not hard on the old eyes....

.96 - true vga (640x480)
.128 - dunno what res this is, a bit better but not in proportion
.196 - qvga (320x240)

will have to get some calculators out to work out a stepping progress to exxperiment.... How VJ's dialpad will work with different resolutions....

vijay555
29th November 2005, 11:33 AM
VJBigPhone should work at any DPI I hope.
It's not hardcoded, it repositions stuff according to the native DPI. However, that's the theory! Give it a go and tell us how it goes.

Note that the current version, 0.5, uses a slightly different and more generic technique to fix the dialler (so that I can later make an international version). However, this may cause it's own foobar, so hold on to the v0.4 cab just in case! Also, by accident, 0.5 doesn't work with the smart dialler. I'll hopefully fix that tonight, but disable it for your test.

V

magpie2000k
29th November 2005, 12:27 PM
can I just try any numbers ie 124 142 181 etc to see which settings work best for my display..

are there any issues ie do the numbers have to be specified multiples


let me know cheers

buzz_lightyear
29th November 2005, 03:46 PM
i'd go for 144 dpi.

:o)
buzz

magpie2000k
29th November 2005, 04:40 PM
I have run reg edit and changed all to 144 and renamed all files to 144 as the thread sais..

However all I get is to a screen where when booting up i have the two soft keys one reads select and the other reads exit..

strange but clicking either doe nothing..

anyone any ideas or am i into another hard reset.
pLus reason for failure would be good.

I find 128 just a bit too small so thought this might be about spot on for mehave also tried 142 and it does the same thing..

any ideas anyone plus Buzz

cheers in advance

BrettS
29th November 2005, 05:04 PM
I would *love* to get 144 to work, but the reason I haven't spent too much time trying is that Pocket IE still does it's crazy pixel doubling with 144. I've played around with it a bit, but it seems like the only way to keep IE from pixel doubling is to actually use 192. Since 'fixing' IE is 90% of the reason I want to use VGA mode.

::sigh:: Otherwise I think that 144 is the perfect compromise.

Brett

Pyrofer
29th November 2005, 05:19 PM
Why is it that MS were so S**T with vga?

Evey app doubles to make it only 320x240 Except the one we want!
Media player leaves 320x240 vids in a little box in the middle of the screen.

So, IE, we want 640x480 and MS make it 320x240 only
WMP we want 320x240 (with option of vga, no doubt) and it only works in 640x480 when playing fullscreen!

its crazy.

What was up with MS thinking its ok to release the OS like this?

If they make PIE and Terminal Services both work in actual VGA mode there is no need for the VGA hack at all.

Come on MS! you know what we all want!

vijay555
29th November 2005, 05:30 PM
Hey, you want to try speaking to the phone dialler as well. That's expressly written NOT to take account of higher DPIs. In this day and age that's crazy.

V

BrettS
29th November 2005, 05:50 PM
Hey, you want to try speaking to the phone dialler as well. That's expressly written NOT to take account of higher DPIs. In this day and age that's crazy.

V

True, but you already fixed that for us, so we don't have to worry about it anymore ;)

Brett

vijay555
29th November 2005, 06:01 PM
:wink:

Anyone tried VJBigPhone at any johnny foreigner DPIs?

V

Carnivor
29th November 2005, 07:10 PM
Why is it that MS were so S**T with vga?

Evey app doubles to make it only 320x240 Except the one we want!
Media player leaves 320x240 vids in a little box in the middle of the screen.

So, IE, we want 640x480 and MS make it 320x240 only
WMP we want 320x240 (with option of vga, no doubt) and it only works in 640x480 when playing fullscreen!

its crazy.

What was up with MS thinking its ok to release the OS like this?

If they make PIE and Terminal Services both work in actual VGA mode there is no need for the VGA hack at all.

Come on MS! you know what we all want!

A theory I have is that the hardware vendors push M$ to provide a working o/s so that they are able to sell stock and recuperate invested funds, even if this means the consumer has to suffer.

BrettS
29th November 2005, 07:52 PM
I just revisited the 'non-standard' DPI issue and I've been spending a bit more time playing around. I discovered that Pocket IE *does* turn off pixel doubling at anything under 144DPI, so obviously that's what I've been spending the most time playing around with.

Since I do like 144DPI so much I first tried 142DPI. I renamed the 96 DPI files to *.142.* and copied them into the Windows directory and reset my phone. That does appear to work and things are reasonably large and readable, but some things didn't appear normal either...

For example, all of the Calculator buttons were a very odd green color. I have the Calendar set to show the half hours, and it just showed a strange black mark instead of 30 for each half hour. Radio buttons and Check boxes didn't appear. You could still select an option by clicking on the text, but you couldn't see what was currently set. In addition, the icons like the flag by the start menu and the OK and X in the top right were rather pixelated. Also, the SIP Keyboard did not appear correctly, nor did it work correctly... you could tap it and it would produce letters, but the letters that appeared weren't the ones you clicked on.

I dropped down slightly to 140dpi and experienced essentially the same problems, however, while the icons still appeared pixelated they seemed more pleasing and didn't bother me so much.

I also tried 128dpi and that fixed the issue with the radio buttons and check boxes, however, the icons were back to their less pleasing pixelated state.

Finally, I tried 136dpi and it was more like 140dpi... more pleasing icons, but all the other problems still existed.

I'm still playing around a bit, but it looks like 128dpi might be our best bet. It's a bit smaller than I'd prefer, but still much better than 96DPI. Most importantly, however, the radio buttons and check boxes appear normally... I tried to use 140dpi briefly, but there are a lot more radio buttons and check boxes than you would expect and it made actually using the device a bit difficult.

I think the problem with the SIP will be correctable. The problem, as near as I can tell, is that it's not displaying the correct bitmap. The keyboard that's being displayed is much smaller than the spot where the keyboard should go. When you tap on the screen it looks like it's picking up the letter that should be in the spot where you tap. I'm assuming (hoping) that there must be some way to edit and enlarge the keyboard bitmap to match the 128dpi setting.

I'm also hoping that it may be possible to manually edit the DLL files and change the icons so that they will display normally at 128dpi. I think it's just trying to stretch or shrink the icons that are there and it's not doing a very good job of it.

Unfortunately I think both of those tasks are beyond my ability, so hopefully there is someone else out there who can do this.

Also, Vijay, I'm afraid that VJBigPhone didn't appear to work at all at any of the DPI's I tried. VJBigPhone started, but it didn't change the dialer screen at all.

Brett

jpa
30th November 2005, 03:15 PM
hy,

Could someone provide me those 3signed dll :

msimfr.192.dll , pptres.192.dll and trares040c.192.dll

I need it as I have a french rom...

Many thanks

steverae
30th November 2005, 04:23 PM
I just revisited the 'non-standard' DPI issue and I've been spending a bit more time playing around. I discovered that Pocket IE *does* turn off pixel doubling at anything under 144DPI, so obviously that's what I've been spending the most time playing around with.

Since I do like 144DPI so much I first tried 142DPI. I renamed the 96 DPI files to *.142.* and copied them into the Windows directory and reset my phone. That does appear to work and things are reasonably large and readable, but some things didn't appear normal either...

For example, all of the Calculator buttons were a very odd green color. I have the Calendar set to show the half hours, and it just showed a strange black mark instead of 30 for each half hour. Radio buttons and Check boxes didn't appear. You could still select an option by clicking on the text, but you couldn't see what was currently set. In addition, the icons like the flag by the start menu and the OK and X in the top right were rather pixelated. Also, the SIP Keyboard did not appear correctly, nor did it work correctly... you could tap it and it would produce letters, but the letters that appeared weren't the ones you clicked on.

I dropped down slightly to 140dpi and experienced essentially the same problems, however, while the icons still appeared pixelated they seemed more pleasing and didn't bother me so much.

I also tried 128dpi and that fixed the issue with the radio buttons and check boxes, however, the icons were back to their less pleasing pixelated state.

Finally, I tried 136dpi and it was more like 140dpi... more pleasing icons, but all the other problems still existed.

I'm still playing around a bit, but it looks like 128dpi might be our best bet. It's a bit smaller than I'd prefer, but still much better than 96DPI. Most importantly, however, the radio buttons and check boxes appear normally... I tried to use 140dpi briefly, but there are a lot more radio buttons and check boxes than you would expect and it made actually using the device a bit difficult.

I think the problem with the SIP will be correctable. The problem, as near as I can tell, is that it's not displaying the correct bitmap. The keyboard that's being displayed is much smaller than the spot where the keyboard should go. When you tap on the screen it looks like it's picking up the letter that should be in the spot where you tap. I'm assuming (hoping) that there must be some way to edit and enlarge the keyboard bitmap to match the 128dpi setting.

I'm also hoping that it may be possible to manually edit the DLL files and change the icons so that they will display normally at 128dpi. I think it's just trying to stretch or shrink the icons that are there and it's not doing a very good job of it.

Unfortunately I think both of those tasks are beyond my ability, so hopefully there is someone else out there who can do this.

Also, Vijay, I'm afraid that VJBigPhone didn't appear to work at all at any of the DPI's I tried. VJBigPhone started, but it didn't change the dialer screen at all.

Brett

Ok, further from bretts findings above, i thought i'd check what files are being used in the .192 dpi setting and found that they are only 19 files with which we skin the higher resolutions but 25 at .192dpi

Where did the original 19 files come from.... why are they 6 files missing, could these 6 files be responsible for the missing icons, radio buttons etc.....

just a thought, i'll leave it up the clever people like Buzz and the gang to suss this out.

Carnivor
30th November 2005, 08:12 PM
the stuff that was missed out i think if i remember correctly, the intro rubbish about alignment and cut+paste an appointment tutorial. no real point if that is right.

ive been side tracked lately making a xp operating system on a 512mb compact flash card, i got xp down to 340mb complete install now, with my required apps installed, yes it boots fast, no need for a hdd now purrfect for the car :)

If anyone wants to investigate further, freely check here for info

http://www.windowsdevcenter.com/pub/a/windows/excerpt/CarPCHacks_Chap1/index.html?page=3

and http://www.linitx.com for the kit

buzz_lightyear
30th November 2005, 10:27 PM
the stuff that was missed out i think if i remember correctly, the intro rubbish about alignment and cut+paste an appointment tutorial. no real point if that is right.

ive been side tracked lately making a xp operating system on a 512mb compact flash card, i got xp down to 340mb complete install now, with my required apps installed, yes it boots fast, no need for a hdd now purrfect for the car :)

If anyone wants to investigate further, freely check here for info

http://www.windowsdevcenter.com/pub/a/windows/excerpt/CarPCHacks_Chap1/index.html?page=3

and http://www.linitx.com for the kit
cool... ;o)))
now make it please for ARM processor... ;o)))

buzz

jpa
30th November 2005, 11:19 PM
As no one seems to have the 3 signed french dll, could you please tell me how i can solve my issue : i don't see the keyboard (with 96, or 128 dpi) ....

thanks

dreamtheater39
1st December 2005, 05:52 AM
Hi,

could someone clarify whats the best way to move into VGA mode??? There are so many posts out here, with two different ways to do it (using ozVGA and just a reg hack method).....question -
1. Which method is the best way to get into vga mode
2. Advantages and disadvantages of each method
3. And how to do it ;)

I've seen posts where 192.* files need to be renamed to some 96.* and all of it....where do i find these files? Why should i rename it to 96.*? If i have my reg setting at 144, do i need to rename it to 144.*?? Again where are these files??? :D


Thanks again!
San

Mikee4fun
1st December 2005, 07:18 AM
Great Job! Now lets hope for the phone app to work right

Mike

jpa
2nd December 2005, 02:20 PM
hi,

is there someone who can explain me how i can change the bitmaps ressources on msim.96.dll (i have an azerty keyboard and the actual bitmaps are for a querty keyboard) ? I have tried with pe ressources but it doesn't run : the dll is not loaded..
thanks

universaldoc
2nd December 2005, 02:45 PM
If it isn't too much to ask, can someone perhaps post a screenshot of their "today" screen and also with an sms being written?

Appreciate it.

buzz_lightyear
3rd December 2005, 08:10 PM
@176 dpi

buzz

universaldoc
3rd December 2005, 08:29 PM
Hi Buzz,

Thanks for the screenshots. I am sorry, i wasn't clear enough. I wanted screenshots posted in VGA mode using the VGA files posted here. I find the fonts to be extremely tiny and very difficult to read. I was wondering if its the same with you guys or are there some changes that i am yet to make.

Cheers.

vijay555
3rd December 2005, 09:28 PM
universaldoc: I think I've posted VGA screenshots on page 2 or so.

V

SiliconS
4th December 2005, 12:49 AM
Stumbled across this page while browsing for WM5 VGA topics on the Interweb:

http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=103786&page=1&pp=20

Ok so i was frustrated that my PDF files were displaying pixel doubled in windows mobile 5 so here is the solution to force adobe reader (or any app) to run in HI_RES_AWARE mode

Seems too good to be true. The post was made at the beginning of November. Has nobody here seen this info, or doesn't it apply to our Universals? I guess it doesn't apply cos surely someone would have posted in these forums if it worked for people who just wanted things like Adobe or PIE in true VGA mode.

I haven't tried this (and I don't plan to) because I'm running very happily in full VGA mode. This hack might be useful for people who want QVGA-sized fonts but without pixel-doubling in PIE.

chris_khho
4th December 2005, 01:35 AM
Wonderful. Will give it a try later...

BrettS
4th December 2005, 02:02 AM
Seems too good to be true. The post was made at the beginning of November. Has nobody here seen this info, or doesn't it apply to our Universals? I guess it doesn't apply cos surely someone would have posted in these forums if it worked for people who just wanted things like Adobe or PIE in true VGA mode.

I haven't tried this (and I don't plan to) because I'm running very happily in full VGA mode. This hack might be useful for people who want QVGA-sized fonts but without pixel-doubling in PIE.

This works for some apps, but not for PIE.

Brett

SiliconS
4th December 2005, 02:56 AM
Seems too good to be true. The post was made at the beginning of November. Has nobody here seen this info, or doesn't it apply to our Universals? I guess it doesn't apply cos surely someone would have posted in these forums if it worked for people who just wanted things like Adobe or PIE in true VGA mode.

I haven't tried this (and I don't plan to) because I'm running very happily in full VGA mode. This hack might be useful for people who want QVGA-sized fonts but without pixel-doubling in PIE.
This works for some apps, but not for PIE.

Brett
Damn. Once again Satan drops a banana skin on the footpath of opportunity and Old Man Possibility slips and breaks his neck.

jpa
11th December 2005, 09:29 PM
here's the hack for our qtek 9000 FR with azerty keyboard : :D

belfast-biker
11th December 2005, 10:31 PM
here ya go, was before i started playing with the ozvga settings tho, looks better now


Damn, gorgeous....

lbendlin
12th December 2005, 12:56 AM
I noticed that the Video Call button, both before and after the resize fix, renders differently to all the other buttons. It scales well to VGA. That is, the corners are not cut off, before the resize, and after the resize, the text gets resized perfectly as well as positioned well. What is different about this button? Can this be used as a clue to resize the other buttons the same way too?

The video call button gets added when you execute the Enable_VT_RTPlugin_0727_2_signed.CAB from the Extended ROM. The setup XML states something like



<characteristic type="HKLM\Security\Phone\Skin" translation="filesystem" >
<parm name="ext" datatype="string" value="phcanhtc.dll" translation="filesystem" />
<parm name="Enabled" datatype="integer" value="1" />
</characteristic>

not sure if that helps

vijay555
12th December 2005, 01:06 AM
Taken appropriately into account by VJBigPhone already I hope!

V

youmeus
13th December 2005, 05:40 PM
hello all,

I would like to start by saying great work on this VGA hack. I however am getting problems running it on my XDA EXEC, some icons are missing in the today screen and other icons are mixed up; not being referenced correctly. Please can anyone give me some hints as to fixing this problem.

Thanks :D

P.S. I have read the thread several times and tried all suggested tips about missing icons but they did not work on my device.[/b]

dreamtheater39
13th December 2005, 07:18 PM
hello all,

I would like to start by saying great work on this VGA hack. I however am getting problems running it on my XDA EXEC, some icons are missing in the today screen and other icons are mixed up; not being referenced correctly. Please can anyone give me some hints as to fixing this problem.

Thanks :D

P.S. I have read the thread several times and tried all suggested tips about missing icons but they did not work on my device.[/b]

i dont think u've copied the bunch of dlls into ur windows directory...

San

vijay555
13th December 2005, 07:20 PM
youmeus: I think that's correct. If you've set up the dlls etc correctly, that's exactly what they're supposed to fix, the blank icons etc...

V

youmeus
13th December 2005, 08:35 PM
will give it another try, but I know that all files where copied...will even download another copy of the files...will keep you posted!

thanks

buzz_lightyear
13th December 2005, 09:08 PM
will give it another try, but I know that all files where copied...will even download another copy of the files...will keep you posted!

thanks
make sure, you install sdkcerts.cab as well. otherwise dlls will not load.

buzz

Khashim
13th December 2005, 11:39 PM
Hey guys,

I'm just a bit confused here. What exactly is the best DPI to use? 144 or 96? Or is the 96 in VGA and 144 in sVGA? Can anyone explain this?

youmeus
14th December 2005, 02:16 AM
:lol: It worked...thanks guys. The problem was when I installed the sdkcerts.cab I was not leaving the device turned off long enought before the soft reset. Anyway it works...It always help to try and try again...and even when you think you did it right....KEEP TRYING :D

BeyondtheTech
14th December 2005, 03:22 AM
Remember, a quick way to flush the registry to the Flash ROM (i.e. save the changes), is to either press the power button to suspend then resume, or go to any Settings Applet, such as Buttons or Input and get out of it. Those instances will force a write of the registry settings from the cache.

dreamtheater39
14th December 2005, 08:34 PM
Remember, a quick way to flush the registry to the Flash ROM (i.e. save the changes), is to either press the power button to suspend then resume, or go to any Settings Applet, such as Buttons or Input and get out of it. Those instances will force a write of the registry settings from the cache.


thats a nice tip ;) thanks btt!

San

nicoska
17th December 2005, 03:14 AM
hello all,

I would like to start by saying great work on this VGA hack. I however am getting problems running it on my XDA EXEC, some icons are missing in the today screen and other icons are mixed up; not being referenced correctly. Please can anyone give me some hints as to fixing this problem.

Thanks :D

P.S. I have read the thread several times and tried all suggested tips about missing icons but they did not work on my device.[/b]

I have exactly the same problem.
I follow the step, one by one, but i can't find some icons and others are mismatched.
:cry: :cry: :cry:

dreamtheater39
17th December 2005, 07:25 AM
hello all,

I would like to start by saying great work on this VGA hack. I however am getting problems running it on my XDA EXEC, some icons are missing in the today screen and other icons are mixed up; not being referenced correctly. Please can anyone give me some hints as to fixing this problem.

Thanks :D

P.S. I have read the thread several times and tried all suggested tips about missing icons but they did not work on my device.[/b]

I have exactly the same problem.
I follow the step, one by one, but i can't find some icons and others are mismatched.
:cry: :cry: :cry:

1. run sdkcerts.cab on ur device
2. copt all files into your windows folder (found in the zip file)
NOTE: if u r using default file explorer on ur ppc, make sure you choose "show all files" in your menu....(otherwise ur dlls are hidden) before u do a select all -> copy -> paste into windows folder
3. run ozvga.exe
4 choose settings -> vga btn
5 soft reset, n u shud see all of it ;)


S

parkertseng
17th December 2005, 11:28 AM
I am using the traditional chinese rom(0404)....
after the ozvga, most of the fuction works good,
but my input pane just gone from the bottom....
does any one know how to solve this?
also my phone and some system setting pages is not right....
help needed...
regards

nicoska
17th December 2005, 01:27 PM
Problem solved.
I did not copy all the dlls file, just a little part:?.
Thanks a lot :lol:

Nico

parkertseng
23rd December 2005, 08:29 AM
How about the input panel from CHT device like Dopod 900 after OZVGA?
Please help me!
Thanks

richard_ha
25th December 2005, 12:28 AM
Will this still work with the latest ROM?

I've just flashed mine to the lastest version. I'm a little hesitant to start overwriting files in the windows folder.

Cheers

astage
25th December 2005, 02:23 AM
Will this still work with the latest ROM?
I've just flashed mine to the lastest version. I'm a little hesitant to start overwriting files in the windows folder.
Cheers
Can't say for sure, but I had a problem. I copied all the OzVGA files into "\Windows\" but (like a dumb ass) forgot to execute the Security cab. Started OzVGA, answered Yes to a few prompts about unsigned files, then chose OzVGA and the device rebooted.
Upon repeated reboots, it totally hung everytime at the password input screen. Had no choice other than a hard reset and re-install of everything. Since I had only just finished the install, you can imagine the air was blue....

ehabh
25th December 2005, 03:15 AM
has anyone successfully done this on a JasJAr with arabic support. When I do this, I get in VGA but everything is messed up, even file explorer has nothing in it. Can not run ozvga after getting in VGA mode have to hard reset every time.
What I really get are the icons but no text what so ever kind of like all fonts are invisible.

I then tried to hard reset my jasjar and reset before the exteneded rom programs are installed thus ended up with a jas jar without arabic support and then installed the vga hack like before and this time it worked seem like the arabic and the vga do not work nicely together.

So does anyone know how to make them work.
Is there a way to install the arabic software but reset the jasjar and not load it for one time only ( to run theozvga for instance )

Any help will be appreciated I bought the jasjar just for the VGA screen please help me use it with arabic.

ehabh
25th December 2005, 03:59 AM
Is it possible that the problem is just a font problem with arabic and ozvga?

eappel
25th December 2005, 08:02 AM
Hi

I would really like to go 144dpi and I am trying to do so with ozvga 1 -->1.5 settings.
I did try the manual registry changes 90hex(144binary) which did chnage the text size however ozvga icons\spacing cant be changed (ozvga also seems to overwrite these settings when run). However I do get all my wifi\signal icons etc back

Which settings on ozvga can I use to get 144dpi?
I have all the 96dpi and 144dpi files in my windows dir and i have executed SdkCerts.cab and done a suspend\resume before rebooting...

Help..
eric

michaelg
26th December 2005, 07:04 PM
Hi,

In regards to the VGA file install, I run the SDK Cert cab, however after the install I still get prompted when I run OzVGA and for a file called outres.96.dll

I basically copied the DLLs from the zip file straight to the /windows folder using Windows Explorer on my desktop. Am I missing something?

Or do I need to unzip the file on the PDA and transfer files between folders on the device?

Regards
Michael

Kassad
28th December 2005, 02:46 PM
hey Guys, I also have the missing icons problem..
I copied and ran CdkCerts.cab on my mda pro, then copied the gifs and dll's to the windows directory (18 in total), ran ozvga but am still missing the icons. I tried these steps 5 times now but no luck..
these are the files I copied:

arrow2.96.gif
browsres.96.dll
complete.96.gif
coreres.96.dll
exappres.96.dll
miscres.96.dll
msim.96.dll
officeres.96.dll
outres.96.dll
pegcards.96.dll
shelres.96.dll
stylus2.96.gif
stylushead.96.gif
syncres.96.dll
tapres.96.dll
TraRes0409.96.dll
tshres.96.dll
welcomehead.96.dll

Am I missing something?

thanks in advance

ehabh
28th December 2005, 03:09 PM
The only way to run in VGA mode with JasJar is to disable Arabic from the control panel. Then enable VGA mode. Take care, if you go in VGA mode with arabic enabled you will not be able to switch back to normal mode at all and nothing will be visible for you. So take care since the only way out is a hard reset with loosing data.
If someone can write a version of OZVGA that will automatically switch to nonvga just by running it from start menu that will solve this problem of needing to hard reset your device if you comit such an error.

Khashim
28th December 2005, 05:47 PM
Hey guys,

For all you that are having trouble installing the files. Attached is a CAB that will install all that is needed. You do not need to run the cdkcert cab either as the cab automatically installs the entries.

This should help for all those that want to have ozVGA installed after a hard reset.

argh2000
28th December 2005, 05:54 PM
Nice one...thanks man :)

Kassad
28th December 2005, 06:16 PM
Khashim, if I didn't know you only over the internet, weren't convinced you're a guy and didn't have a girfriend, I'd marry you in a second! it works :-)

Khashim
28th December 2005, 06:19 PM
Lol......thanks (a bit creepy, but thanks). I was really surprised no one made a CAB when I first read this thread, so I decided.........why the hell not do it myself. And of course, this site it about sharing.

All I hope for now is that somebody finds a way to fix the problem with WM10 display in VGA mode.

vijay555
28th December 2005, 06:24 PM
Eh? What's the problem with the display in WM? Non fullscreen video or something else?

I haven't read the thread, but perhaps VJBigPhone technique might work on it...

V

Khashim
28th December 2005, 06:30 PM
The WMP10 problem was posted in your thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33971&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=100 Page 5

Was that ever solved?

Edit: Vijay555, can I get the WirelessManager fix?

vijay555
28th December 2005, 06:40 PM
I see, the problem with the buttons being too high? Hmm, I never looked into that, I thought everyone used TCMP!

I can have a quick look at it...
The wireless manager code was removed because it seemed to work for some people and not others, and I need to investigate why. I will try to reinsert this code at some point, but for now I'm working hard on finishing ToggleToday for WM5 (it works very well, but need to test it for interaction with another plugin I'm writing). If I can get a little spare time, I'll try to have a look at the other things too...

V

zohaer21
28th December 2005, 07:10 PM
[/b]

TraumaTiger
28th December 2005, 08:23 PM
Has anyone tried it with the new O2 Rom ?

vijay555
29th December 2005, 07:29 PM
Just in passing, for those who have difficulty reaching the ok button, I'm working on a solution, but as an interim, I've made this teeny tiny app (yet to be optimised) which simulates ok/close button presses.

However, it closes programs, not minimises, so it can act as a tiny task killer. Assign it to a hardware key and close away. It's in beta, because the technique used to close may be specific to some apps, but it generally works.

Read about VJOkButt (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33667&highlight=&start=8)

v

citlee
2nd January 2006, 11:10 PM
I have read this thread several times and I am still not clear on a couple of things. I've installed OzVGA using Khashim's all-in-one .CAB, and it works brilliantly :) The problem is font sizes -- when in true VGA (640x480), what font/font size is currently recommended to give the best usability on the device without breaking things (green artifacts mentioned in a post in this thread), and what exactly do you have to do to change the font/size?

gaofi
2nd January 2006, 11:34 PM
Hello,

I tried a few times with the O2 Rom below, which is my rom of choice for the time beeing.... Unfortunately this hangs after the soft reset.., I have just a blue screen with the two soft-keys options ("select" and another). Both seems to be "clickable" (color change when I tap) but then it hangs.

Too bad, for it was working nicely (although there was probably a lot of things to fix, like the size of the buttons of the phone app) with the shipped-in rom (French SFR)

Interesting enough, I tried (briefly) minimo, the "mini mozilla" beta browser, and it seems to be switching to some kind of vga flawlessly, and without reboot... Unfortunaly, it's just too unresponsive to me

Gael
O2 Exec ROM 1.13.82
ExtRom 1.13.188
Radio 1.04.02
.. plus a few goodies gathered here and there :-)

aefelix
3rd January 2006, 08:15 AM
Hello,

Interesting enough, I tried (briefly) minimo, the "mini mozilla" beta browser, and it seems to be switching to some kind of vga flawlessly, and without reboot... Unfortunaly, it's just too unresponsive to me

Gael
O2 Exec ROM 1.13.82
ExtRom 1.13.188
Radio 1.04.02
.. plus a few goodies gathered here and there :-)


Take a look here ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=195706 install opera 8.5 and the patch.
you'll be happy.
:lol:

gaofi
3rd January 2006, 09:28 AM
Wow !

Quite impressive, I admit !

knowsleyroader
3rd January 2006, 04:16 PM
Just put opera 8.5 on and its really nice. Not sure I really understand all this vga stuff as for me if the browser text etc was any smaller than it already is I dont know how I would be able to read it.

Opera formats pages better than pie and its much easier to view forums etc as things are more in their right place. Also I notice the full google page comes up as opposed to the cut down pda version in PIE.

Luvly.

garyhartaz
5th January 2006, 08:17 PM
Still can't get the phone pad working...what is the fix?

vijay555
5th January 2006, 08:20 PM
garyhartaz:
Have you tried VJBigPhone?
http://www.vijay555.com/index.php?Releases:VJBigPhone

http://www.vijay555.com/vj/releases/vjbigphone/HorizontalOn.jpg

Search the forum for more details.

V

darkblak
6th January 2006, 09:38 AM
Is anyone else having problems with the size of icons on their XDA EXEC's or it is just me. If I'm running in 192 dpi mode everything is beautiful. For example WA2 - looks very, very nice. However running in 96 dpi mode - all of the icons are way too big and no longer fit in their positions. For example you'd have a big X that would be cut off as it's bigger than the space it is allowed to be shown in. It's not just WA2 it's a few other apps as well. There seems to be a problem with some apps recognizing that the screen resolution is no longer QVGA mode but VGA mode

I've also noticed a difference between OZVGA and simply switching the values between 192 and 96 as shown by the buzz method earlier in this thread.

If I use OzVGA to change resolutions - the system fonts are slightly out of place or menus are larger than normal. Now, a hard reset and only using Buzz's method - the fonts are OK. For example - the start menu - the word Start - with OzVGA it's slightly higher on the top menu line/border/bar - whereas with the simple registry change it's slap bang in the middle of the menu bar (by middle I don't mean left to right I mean up/down).

Other things that I have noticed include other menus such as Resco File Explorer also have menu fonts - slightly out of place. But these are Ok when using the buzz method.

This is by no means the least of it - it's just very annoying and off putting and I don't know if there is any easy way of resolving this - but switching from one reolution to another does not gaurantee things are going to work well.

I figure that one last hard reset and it will be back to the registry only change not the ozVGA method as this seems to make things worse. But whichever version I use there are downsides to getting things working in VGA mode.


Any thoughts?

Carnivor
6th January 2006, 11:06 AM
Simply put i think its down to application development to sort these issues out and not down to operating system amendments and tweaks, as each app has its own quirks

steiale
6th January 2006, 12:33 PM
How can I put everything back? My whole phone looks really bad now!! Any easy way to reverse all setting made by OzVGA??

darkblak
6th January 2006, 12:39 PM
Simply put i think its down to application development to sort these issues out and not down to operating system amendments and tweaks, as each app has its own quirks

I was expecting that.... :cry:

vijay555
6th January 2006, 12:47 PM
darkblak:

You have to remember that our systems weren't designed for VGA, it's a hack we've thrown together. As with all hacks, your mileage may vary.

Obviously since all apps had previously been written to expect QVGA, we're lucky when what works works!

With some minor tinkering you should have a usable enough system, but as most of us are finding, VGA is hard on the eyes for day to day use, but it's undeniably useful for some uses.

I tweaked one or two things but never had troubles with start bar etc:
http://www.vijay555.com/vj/screenshots/vga1.jpg

http://www.vijay555.com/vj/screenshots/vga2.jpg

V

darkblak
7th January 2006, 01:07 PM
darkblak:

You have to remember that our systems weren't designed for VGA, it's a hack we've thrown together. As with all hacks, your mileage may vary.

Obviously since all apps had previously been written to expect QVGA, we're lucky when what works works!

With some minor tinkering you should have a usable enough system, but as most of us are finding, VGA is hard on the eyes for day to day use, but it's undeniably useful for some uses.


V - I think I get confused with the term 'VGA'. To some authors - this means increasing the size of the icons to waste all that extra desktop area. I don't want this - I want to be using the QVGA sizes on everything so that I can USE the extra space offered by 480x640 mode. I seem to be installing VGA programs and then hunting around for QVGA icons all the time.

Thanks for the help though.

vijay555
7th January 2006, 04:08 PM
darkblak: Sorry, I think I confused myself perhaps. QVGA is 320x240. So that's the max resolution you'll get out of QVGA apps - normally.

Perhaps unrelated but if we can disable pixel doubling on selected apps, we should theoretically be able to get more like vga resolution out of QVGA apps. This has been done for Netfront, and is theoretically possible with PIE but requires some work...
eg see here:
http://i2700gpower.blogspot.com/2005/02/netfront-vga-without-sevgaozvga-for.html

http://matrix.senecac.on.ca/~wkng/PocketPC/images/netfront%20with%20my%20VGA%20hack.JPG

V

steiale
9th January 2006, 08:54 AM
Could anybody do this kack for 128x128? 96dpi is really small...

Thanks, Alex

dt_matthews
9th January 2006, 10:43 AM
really noobie stoopid question, but I have an exec - there isnt anyway of hiking the resolution is there?? I'm assuming this thread is for increasing the resolution on some other device (could someone very nice confirm what device this thread is for??? ;))...

i'm also thinking of getting an exec mini - can I vga hack that???

aorry again for all the q's...

vijay555
9th January 2006, 10:57 AM
dt_matthews: the Exec is the o2 brand name for a phone built by a company called HTC, and their code name for it is the Universal. So yes, the Universal == Exec, and so VGA hack is designed particularly for that device, or any other VGA screened device.

The Mini S is the Wizard I think. That device has a 320x240 (QVGA) screen. So although you could force the device to increase the amount of data it shows on the screen to VGA, it wouldn't be able to physically draw it any better to the screen. Quart into a pint pot as they say...

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dt_matthews
9th January 2006, 12:51 PM
dt_matthews: the Exec is the o2 brand name for a phone built by a company called HTC, and their code name for it is the Universal. So yes, the Universal == Exec, and so VGA hack is designed particularly for that device, or any other VGA screened device.

The Mini S is the Wizard I think. That device has a 320x240 (QVGA) screen. So although you could force the device to increase the amount of data it shows on the screen to VGA, it wouldn't be able to physically draw it any better to the screen. Quart into a pint pot as they say...

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thanks vijay555, so waht does this hack do, the exec is a vga device already!?!?!?

vijay555
9th January 2006, 01:19 PM
The exec is VGA in the sense that the screen is capable of 640x480.
However, the operating system is setup to run the system at QVGA, 320x240. All apps will, by default, run at that smaller size. The operating system is designed by default to use "pixel doubling" to fill the 640x480 screen with a 320x240 image. VGA hack will convince the operating system to use the full VGA resolution by default.

So what that means is that instead of this kind of resolution:
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/articles/2005/image/wm2005/wm2005-038.jpg

You get this instead:
http://www.vijay555.com/vj/screenshots/vga1.jpg

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dt_matthews
9th January 2006, 02:44 PM
The exec is VGA in the sense that the screen is capable of 640x480.
However, the operating system is setup to run the system at QVGA, 320x240. All apps will, by default, run at that smaller size. The operating system is designed by default to use "pixel doubling" to fill the 640x480 screen with a 320x240 image. VGA hack will convince the operating system to use the full VGA resolution by default.

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ah, now i see! (and now i understand all the excitement! wow....)

vijay555
9th January 2006, 03:02 PM
[edited my post to hopefully show a proper QVGA screenshot]
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TraumaTiger
9th January 2006, 10:14 PM
I think it needs mentioning that in order to get the full vga working you have to replace some system dll's, these system dll's have been edited by someone so they will work when the dpi for the system has been changed. However, if you do a rom update, the version of your system dll's will probably have advanced and if you now perform the vga update you will overwrite newer dll's with older ones and possibly stop your system from working.

I do believe someone has tried and their Jasjar/Exec will now not boot up.

Is there anyone who can apply the same edits to the newer dll's that get installed during the rom update ?

dt_matthews
10th January 2006, 01:34 PM
Can anyone comfirm how to roll this back if neccessary??

cheers!
dan

rolandkamsika
23rd January 2006, 01:38 AM
Where can I get the VGA cab file? It doesn't seem to be on the FTP server.

TIA

vijay555
23rd January 2006, 01:10 PM
rolandkamsika: I think further up the thread I've posted a link to my website where I'm hosting it. Could be an old version, but it works fine for me.

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vijay555
23rd January 2006, 02:42 PM
PS for those interested in what you can do with the extra space, here's a screenshot of a new program I'm working on, VJSihaya:
http://www.vijay555.com/vj/Screenshots/SihayaScreenshot.jpg

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=216445#216445

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Cyber-mate
23rd January 2006, 07:13 PM
The only way to run in VGA mode with JasJar is to disable Arabic from the control panel. Then enable VGA mode.

...Ooh! At last someone guided me of what wrong I was doing. However, it is such a pain that I cant read nor write arabic!!

buzz_lightyear
23rd January 2006, 08:34 PM
hi vijay,
that screen really rocks!
another incredible rabbit out of your incredible hat!
however, one would need one of those fresnel lenses, to see such screen comfortably :o)))

buzz

vijay555
23rd January 2006, 10:28 PM
Hi Buzz. You always said I'd write a new shell, I finally gave it a go!
Yep, fresnels would be cool. Quite a few on ebay for my 15cm television...
VJSihaya is suprisingly usable if you're sitting in front of it. I'll have to make selectable interfaces to have a chunky one to be thumb friendly (particularly in VGA mode) and then more delicate ones for when I'm feeling girly. I'm going to have a go at an OS X one tonight.

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SiliconS
23rd January 2006, 10:44 PM
I'll have to make selectable interfaces to have a chunky one to be thumb friendly (particularly in VGA mode) and then more delicate ones for when I'm feeling girly.
I never use my fingers on my screen, so small is fine for me :D

shivafool
24th January 2006, 05:49 AM
Vijay, that looks INCREDIBLE!!
I saw you refer to yourself as a relatively novice programmer in some thread not long ago.
Look out world when you become a good programmer. :wink:

vijay555
24th January 2006, 12:04 PM
Thanks shivafool. I've really got to tidy up the screenshot. I was going to do a bit more graphic work yesterday, but my better half cracked her whip so to speak, so had to go to bed early after being up until 5am the night before posting that screenshot.

I'll try to post a video shortly, but it's hard to get good frame rates recorded at VGA.

refer to yourself as a relatively novice programmer
Very much so. But I am very persistent... and I've got more ideas then time to program. So many mods I'd make but no time to give effect to :(
I really must start programming full time one day... ah, to dream.

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philtech44
24th January 2006, 05:10 PM
I'm going to have a go at an OS X one tonight.

V

yes please V!

are you a mac user then??

vijay555
24th January 2006, 05:48 PM
philtech44 - No, not at all, but curiously, when you have the freedom to choose any window style available, subject only to your imagination, few come to mind. I have a great one I would like to develop, but I'm keeping it in my head because I'm not sure if I'm artistic enough!, but OS X is relatively pretty, and shouldn't need much more work - just brushed metal bitmap and control widgets I hope. But I don't have much time, so I'll see how it goes.

I quite like how Vista Glass looks (real one - mine is obviously not finished yet!), but if you have some good OS ideas for inspiration, PM them to me :wink:. I don't want to derail this thread... I would like to try a kind of BEOS one as well. Have to see if my transparency works properly.

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zYxMa
26th January 2006, 05:52 PM
I am new user of ozVGA - This is excellent! :shock:
But for now I have one problem - with Phone feature:

Sorry, I found the tools that fix me this.

Problem solved ;)

SiliconS
26th January 2006, 06:10 PM
I am new user of ozVGA - This is excellent! :shock:
But for now I have one problem - with Phone feature:
That's because the phone dialler doesn't cope with the changed resolution very well.

It's the same for everyone. There are things you can do that will help you minimise the hassle though. Search the forum for 'VJBigPhone' and you'll find the biggest solution you need.

vijay555
26th January 2006, 06:20 PM
Any of you guys watch Red Dwarf?
Kryten: Are you really me?
Future Kryten: Will you take a look at him. Did I really used to look that goofy?
Kryten: What is that you have on your head? I hope you have a quarantine license for it.

Yes, I'm that much of a nerd, but I was cannibalising some of the code for VJBigPhone yesterday, and realised just how clunky some of it looked internally with hindsight. I've really got to get around to fixing some of this up. If you can think of obvious but doable problems or requests, feel free to post them or PM. Please be nice, I'm very busy on VJSihaya and a million other things. And the curse-ed VJOkButt.

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zYxMa
26th January 2006, 11:01 PM
And I have something else :/

Some text options are allright and some are to big, see below:

This is OK: http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/7598/conns8lk.th.png (http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=conns8lk.png)

but not these:
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/3893/csd6fu.th.png (http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=csd6fu.png)http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/9459/batteryoptions9xl.th.png (http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batteryoptions9xl.png)http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/1041/batteryoptions28eg.th.png (http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batteryoptions28eg.png)

SiliconS
26th January 2006, 11:29 PM
zYxMa, on page 1 of this thread, :roll:
Some issues I am having that u may already know how to solve, in which case I'd appreciate ur input:
- Fonts tough on eyes. What changes do u recommend over and above ozVGA settings?
- Some dialog boxes only show half the text b4 the yes/no buttons overwrite the bottom part. Any ideas?
- PIN pad is all overlapped; not a big deal
- BUT, phone pad is a bit of an issue; too small and I have to turn off quickdial. Any ideas on this?
- My SIP keyboard loses its skin. Can the skins on buzz's board be applied somehow?
- Calculator keys too small; do u know of a working calc app cos I truly need a calculator available at all times
- My oh-so-pretty WA2 and WAD hi-res themes need to take a trip back to low-res world else the buttons are too big! Darn!
I guess you're new to this tweak, but could you have a look over that list and the rest of this thread and check whether any of your new 'problems' have already been covered or mentioned by other people? It'll save us a lot of time if you're going to be asking questions about every imperfection you find. :) You will notice many but most don't affect functionality.

This OzVGA hack isn't perfect. Many of the built-in screens don't work perfectly in true VGA mode (shame on Microsoft) and quite a number of third-party apps will behave strangely (although generally they're better than the OS).

If you find problems, chances are they're problems that we're all seeing. Some problems have been fixed (thanks vijay555) but others you just have to live with. See if you can fix them yourself. They won't be unique to your machine, I'm sure, and we'd all appreciate any solutions you can provide.