Why different CPUs in Wizard and Apache?

[plantagoo]

Hi!

The Apache comes with the "well known" Intel PXA270 CPU that runs on 416 MHz.

The Wizard has this "sloppy" TiOMAP CPU that runs on 200 MHz.

Why did they use this "sloooow" CPU on the GSM-version of the device?

Will there be an Apache for GSM? What platform will the upcoming vodafone VPA compact 2 be (I heard something of "HTC Prodigy"?!)

ARGH!

Who nows the "secret"?

Greetings
plant

[BigDamHero]

Secret is Clock Speed DOESNT EQUAL actual speed.

The wizard will do more calculations per cycle (like AMD processors). It means roughly the same performance for less power and less battery consumption.

There are benchmarks somewhere that shows Wizard out performs the Magician.

[rookery]

Secret is Clock Speed DOESNT EQUAL actual speed.

The wizard will do more calculations per cycle (like AMD processors). It means roughly the same performance for less power and less battery consumption.

There are benchmarks somewhere that shows Wizard out performs the Magician.

But I can only found benchmarks of Java on Wizard vs Magician, it seems that the benchmarks of Java not fully represent the speed or precessing power of a CPU.

[mitchello]

Yeah you have to take into account that they are different types of CPU, so their speeds can't be directly related. I am very impressed by the Wizards speed. I find it often to be faster that my Magician.

The only area where I find the Magician was a fair bit better is video playback. I use TCPMP, and it has optimizations for Xscale, so the Magician beats it in that area.

[plantagoo]

There are benchmarks somewhere that shows Wizard out performs the Magician.

Then show me THIS benchmarks.

I only can give you a link where nearly *everything* outperforms the Wizard! It looks like a desaster performancewise...

http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-wizard-en.shtml

Greetings
plant

[mitchello]

Those benchmarks just don't match with my ACTUAL experience using the device. It is no way as slow as those benchmarks would have you believe. Mine is consistently as fast as or only slightly slower than my XDA Mini was, definately not as drastically slower as those benchmarks show.

It is definately not a disaster performancewise if you configure it properly, using progs that support WM5 and don't install the AV software.

[plantagoo]

Hi!

How fast runs Navigon Mobilenavigaor 5? It's quite ok on my Magician but I think the Wizard will make it even more sloppy. It's ok that it *feels* fast at OS use - but how fast *is it really* running software that actually needs high performance like MN5 or TomTom 5?

And one question remains: Why are they using the PXA270 in the US-Version of the Wizard (Sprint PPC-6700)?

Just my €0.02

Greetings
plant

[mitchello]

The PPC-6700 is not a version of the Wizard, but a different device called Apache. It has a different design than the Wizard, including the Xscale processor, use of EVDO/CDMA instead of quadband GSM, different keyboard and an external antenna.

[Ineedtoys]

Hi!

How fast runs Navigon Mobilenavigaor 5? It's quite ok on my Magician but I think the Wizard will make it even more sloppy. It's ok that it *feels* fast at OS use - but how fast *is it really* running software that actually needs high performance like MN5 or TomTom 5?

And one question remains: Why are they using the PXA270 in the US-Version of the Wizard (Sprint PPC-6700)?

Just my €0.02

Greetings
plant
The SBP Benchmark comparisions are meaningless as the Wizard uses a totally different CPU architecture (i.e. dual core) and file system to the others. It's real life experience that counts. TTN5 on mine takes slightly longer to load than the Magician (because of the non volatile memory), but once it's running I barely notice any difference. Sure, if you want high frame rate video for games, look elsewhere, but for day to day use as PDA / Phone / GPS / MP3 player it's every bit as good as the Magician - but with much better battery life, and no risk of you losing all your data if you forget to charge it!

[mitchello]

Yes, the battery life is absolutely awesome on this device!!! It lasts much longer than my Magician did, and that including use of WiFi!