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lie_ui
22nd December 2005, 10:25 PM
Read this article:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/wceintro5/html/wce50conWhatsNew.asp

It confirms that WM5 has the USB Mass Storage driver built in, means without any additional software, we can use the storage card in WM5 device just like a USB pen drive/external HDD. This is very useful to connect the device in PCs without ActiveSync installed.

Does anybody know how to make the Universal to be recognized as a USB Mass Storage in Windows OS?

lbendlin
22nd December 2005, 10:36 PM
The DLL usbmsfn.dll is missing from the Exec's ROM - without that you'll not have much joy me thinks.

GDawes
22nd December 2005, 11:01 PM
With no wifi support in activesync this may be much faster.

I find it a real pain transfering video files to my mda pro over activesync so slow

BeyondtheTech
23rd December 2005, 02:02 AM
Can it be ripped from the device emulator or someone else's WM5 ROM?

FOSA
23rd December 2005, 04:01 PM
Does the Universal requires hardware-ready for USB hosting besides the necessary drivers?

lie_ui
23rd December 2005, 09:26 PM
No, pls don't be confused with USB host capability.
This is not related to that. The USB Mass Storage function is basically the capability to emulate the Universal so that when its plugged to a USB port of a PC, the PC will recognize the Universal as if its an external harddrive/USB pen drive/card reader.
If you use an external harddrive/USB pen drive/card reader to transport files you should be familiar with this. The benefit is that you do not need any driver for the drive to be recognize by Windows OS (starting W2k).

I myself, everytime I want to copy big size files like MP3 or movie to my Universal, I will take out the SD Card and insert it to the card reader then copy the files as its slightly faster to do so rather than using the ActiveSync.
The idea is that, with the USB Mass Storage driver that is built into the WM5, we do not need to take out the SD Card and use a card reader anymore. Just plug in the Universal and the PC can access the storage card directly with full speed.

Though this is definetely WM5 feature, but not really sure if this is implemented in Universal specifically. If anybody knows, please share.

lie_ui
23rd December 2005, 09:29 PM
No, pls don't be confused with USB host capability.
This is not related to that. The USB Mass Storage function is basically the capability to emulate the Universal so that when its plugged to a USB port of a PC, the PC will recognize the Universal as if its an external harddrive/USB pen drive/card reader.
If you use an external harddrive/USB pen drive/card reader to transport files you should be familiar with this. The benefit is that you do not need any driver for the drive to be recognize by Windows OS (starting W2k).

I myself, everytime I want to copy big size files like MP3 or movie to my Universal, I will take out the SD Card and insert it to the card reader then copy the files as its slightly faster to do so rather than using the ActiveSync.
The idea is that, with the USB Mass Storage driver that is built into the WM5, we do not need to take out the SD Card and use a card reader anymore. Just plug in the Universal and the PC can access the storage card directly with full speed.

Though this is definetely WM5 feature, but not really sure if this is implemented in Universal specifically. If anybody knows, please share.

SvenJ
24th December 2005, 06:32 AM
Hate to burst bubbles, but the originally referenced article is taking about Windows CE5, not Windows Mobile5. While WM5 is built out of WCE5, it does not support everything that the underlying OS does or can. WCE5 is a base OS that a number of products are based on including WM devices like SmartPhones and PPC, and automotive electronics and even vending machines. At this point I know of no native mass storage capability in a WM5 device. Not to say it can't happen, as Softick provided the capability for WM2003 devices. It's just not that way out of the box.

thaihugo
24th December 2005, 10:36 AM
A laconic mail exchange with Softick told me that they are actually working on their cardexport product for full WM5 compatibility. No release date, no progress for now. Maybe if somebody want's to ask more?

belfast-biker
24th December 2005, 11:26 AM
With no wifi support in activesync this may be much faster.

I find it a real pain transfering video files to my mda pro over activesync so slow


Use an SD card reader, or try transferring over a wifi network using a network shared folder using resco explorer.

Brilliant, trust me!

heidy
1st January 2006, 03:42 AM
A laconic mail exchange with Softick told me that they are actually working on their cardexport product for full WM5 compatibility. No release date, no progress for now. Maybe if somebody want's to ask more?

Version 2.10 Beta now supports WM5!! Horray!

http://www.softick.com/

rahjinoh
1st January 2006, 04:42 AM
A laconic mail exchange with Softick told me that they are actually working on their cardexport product for full WM5 compatibility. No release date, no progress for now. Maybe if somebody want's to ask more?

Version 2.10 Beta now supports WM5!! Horray!

http://www.softick.com/

Tested Working on Universal.

cktlcmd
1st January 2006, 05:08 AM
WOW. This is good news! :D

lie_ui
1st January 2006, 05:22 AM
after installing it, the device hangs. I unplugged it and reset it manually. And it works. Really cool! I noticed the speed is not as fast compared to a card reader. Anyway, I'm happy that now I do not need to carry around additional thing, SD card reader, just to transport files.

lie_ui
1st January 2006, 05:23 AM
after installing it, the device hangs. I unplugged it and reset it manually. And it works. Really cool! I noticed the speed is not as fast compared to a card reader. Anyway, I'm happy that now I do not need to carry around additional thing, SD card reader, just to transport files.

belfast-biker
1st January 2006, 03:10 PM
Sweet Software....

Mythozz
1st January 2006, 04:46 PM
I install it (2.10), it keeps staying at the display when it is loading the bar and then it says that it cannot load it self...

Afterwards it uninstalls automatically... :(

I have Qtek ROM... :(

rastaman
1st January 2006, 06:44 PM
I've installed it and it works great on my Qtek 9000 (Universal). I only turn on de mass storage when i really need it, but then it works great to tranfer files from and tot every PC (no ActiveSync install needed).

DaveUK
1st January 2006, 07:51 PM
I am trying to install V2.10 on my Universal and get the following:

On installation an error:

"ActivateDeviceEx" and "Cannot Load Drivers\BuiltIn\CE2. Code 2"

The install then says "Cannot Start Card Export" and "Card Export Installation Failed" and uninstalls itself.

Did a registry search and cant find any reference to that in the regisrty.

Anyone with any ideas or if they have that in their reg can they post the details!

Cheers!

Mythozz
1st January 2006, 09:47 PM
I am trying to install V2.10 on my Universal and get the following:

On installation an error:

"ActivateDeviceEx" and "Cannot Load Drivers\BuiltIn\CE2. Code 2"

The install then says "Cannot Start Card Export" and "Card Export Installation Failed" and uninstalls itself.

Did a registry search and cant find any reference to that in the regisrty.

Anyone with any ideas or if they have that in their reg can they post the details!

Cheers!

That's the same message I get!!! I have the same problem in My Qtek too...

rahjinoh
2nd January 2006, 02:37 AM
I am trying to install V2.10 on my Universal and get the following:

On installation an error:

"ActivateDeviceEx" and "Cannot Load Drivers\BuiltIn\CE2. Code 2"

The install then says "Cannot Start Card Export" and "Card Export Installation Failed" and uninstalls itself.

Did a registry search and cant find any reference to that in the regisrty.

Anyone with any ideas or if they have that in their reg can they post the details!

Cheers!

Soft Reset & Try installation again.

heidy
2nd January 2006, 03:50 AM
I am trying to install V2.10 on my Universal and get the following:

On installation an error:

"ActivateDeviceEx" and "Cannot Load Drivers\BuiltIn\CE2. Code 2"

The install then says "Cannot Start Card Export" and "Card Export Installation Failed" and uninstalls itself.

Did a registry search and cant find any reference to that in the regisrty.

Anyone with any ideas or if they have that in their reg can they post the details!

Cheers!

That's the same message I get!!! I have the same problem in My Qtek too...

Me three! Then I took rahjinoh's advice and did a soft-reset; now it installs!

DaveUK
2nd January 2006, 11:55 AM
Tried the soft reset and still no luck.

Fired off an email to Softkick support an they said they'd look into the problem and release a new version.

Update: After 4 soft resets it now installs!

shunichi
3rd January 2006, 04:48 PM
how come?
I got the same error~
and try soft reset for several times~!
It really can't install into my dopod900...
anyone help~?

rahjinoh
3rd January 2006, 05:46 PM
alternatively, install it WITHOUT being connected to ActiveSync.

shunichi
3rd January 2006, 11:06 PM
it works~! thanks~

spier
10th January 2006, 09:48 PM
:( Installed it but I run in the following problem. When I try to switch to Card Export, I get the message switching is not possible due to missing dll's or corrupted registry settings. Is it nessacary to have the device connected when switching to Card Export? BTW, I own a MDA Pro [T-Mobile]

Dubrand
10th January 2006, 10:44 PM
... missing dll's or corrupted registry settings... I own a MDA Pro [T-Mobile]

the same to me. Gerd Dubrand

scotjen1
11th January 2006, 12:15 AM
Installed on my Universal installed fine but windows came up usb malfunction.

Removed usb cable and plugged back in windows picked it straight up.

Now works a treat :D

gooroo
11th January 2006, 10:27 AM
@spier, the readme says you must have USB disconnected when switching.

Regards

SiliconS
11th January 2006, 11:50 AM
Pity this software costs $20. :(

Sounds like the useful kinda utility that our esteemed hackers on this site could knock up, but maybe it's more complex than it appears to this non-programmer.

gooroo
11th January 2006, 12:15 PM
Does anyone have this as a cab rather than an active sync install, the readme says you can also install it using cardexport.ARMV4.CAB but I cant find the 2.10 cab for download anywhere, and I cant seem to extract it from the CardExportPPC210-en.exe file? I have found the cardexport.ARMV4.CAB file on P2P but its always an older version.

Regards

spier
11th January 2006, 03:46 PM
Thanx, It works just fine now,

regards Erik :D

windstar
13th February 2006, 05:03 PM
... missing dll's or corrupted registry settings... I own a MDA Pro [T-Mobile]

the same to me. Gerd Dubrand

I have the same problem.
Perhaps depends on T-Mobile Software?

hoanglong
14th February 2006, 11:20 PM
edit
nevermind

TheBlasphemer
15th February 2006, 12:47 AM
... missing dll's or corrupted registry settings... I own a MDA Pro [T-Mobile]

the same to me. Gerd Dubrand

I have the same problem.
Perhaps depends on T-Mobile Software?

I think it might, as I've had trouble with it before. Trouble went away after hard-reset without ext rom, en trouble never came back after an O2 XDA Exec ROM flash ;)

foxnolds
15th February 2006, 03:09 AM
... missing dll's or corrupted registry settings... I own a MDA Pro [T-Mobile]

the same to me. Gerd Dubrand

I have the same problem.
Perhaps depends on T-Mobile Software?

I think it might, as I've had trouble with it before. Trouble went away after hard-reset without ext rom, en trouble never came back after an O2 XDA Exec ROM flash ;)

I had Extended_Rom visible (and unlocked). I reset my registry settings to hide my Extended_Rom again (but still unlocked) and tried again and this time it worked without giving the above error message dialog!

I hope this helps. YMMV

dmr54
15th February 2006, 09:09 AM
spier wrote:
... missing dll's or corrupted registry settings... I own a MDA Pro [T-Mobile]

I have an MDA Pro and also have the above error, the company are aware of it and working towards a fix but no time frame as yet :(

magxs
15th February 2006, 12:48 PM
I get the same error. But it always works after a soft reset. Sometimes it is sufficient to kill ActiveSync for it to work - but not always. So, AS is part of the problem, but there has to be something else blocking some files or dlls.

Magxs

vbJoe
15th February 2006, 04:46 PM
This was one of my major moans with pocket devices.. ActiveStink is so slow. Installed this device and tried to change to CardExport and it spat out a load of errors :?

Unplugged it
soft reset it
disabled usb in activesync on the desktop
plugged it back in and it worked like a treat :wink:

Copied 700mb over in 15mins ish.

This is the MOST useful app i've come across on the pocket pc and for £10 its a steal, bought it.

cjb
15th February 2006, 07:04 PM
700mb in 15mins, does anyone know how that compares to a memory card reader that is PCMCIA not USB based?

Thanks cjb

q-biq
15th February 2006, 07:10 PM
no freeware apps that can do this out?

vbJoe
15th February 2006, 08:10 PM
bear in mind that just because it said 15 mins it's a "microsoft" 15 minutes .. I didnt watch it :-) but it did it just as if i'd put it in my reader. :)

DeeperGreen
17th February 2006, 04:27 AM
I bought a fast SD card that is supposed to be able to do about 20 MB/sec.

700 MB in 15 minutes is more than 20 times slower than the nominal speed of my card.

Is the bottleneck the Softick product or maybe his SD card?

windstar
17th February 2006, 11:01 AM
... missing dll's or corrupted registry settings... I own a MDA Pro [T-Mobile]

the same to me. Gerd Dubrand

I have the same problem.
Perhaps depends on T-Mobile Software?

I think it might, as I've had trouble with it before. Trouble went away after hard-reset without ext rom, en trouble never came back after an O2 XDA Exec ROM flash ;)

I had Extended_Rom visible (and unlocked). I reset my registry settings to hide my Extended_Rom again (but still unlocked) and tried again and this time it worked without giving the above error message dialog!

I hope this helps. YMMV

The problem persists independing if my Extended ROM is visible/unlocked or not

Conchas
19th February 2006, 02:03 AM
... missing dll's or corrupted registry settings... I own a MDA Pro [T-Mobile]

The same happened to me!
I've installed 'Card Export II v2.11b' on SD Card. Once I've uninstalled it and re-install on main memory, never got the same problem again.
Now, it works like a charm :)