some question about Piel Frama jasjar

[y-cell.co.il]

1). why it doesnt have belt clip ?
2). where i can find it in the lowest price on the net ?
3). can you show me another good case for my JJ ?

thank's
omry

[Wiz]

1: Jasjar is too heavy for a leather case with clip. Aluminum, no problem, but leather is too soft and to weak to hold it like that
2: Some internet shops do offer slightly lower prices, but the difference is compensated by the fact that Piel Frama includes shipping in the price. If you want quality, be prepared to pay for it. I love Piel Frama, Covertec and Vaja, and for me there is no alternative.
3: If you really want cheap, go with http://shop.brando.com.hk They offer rock bottom prices and decent quality.

[cidriver]

I have the great chace to visit Piel Frama in the south of Spain. I was talking with the co-workers, all are really friendly and open to ear you what do you need. I was talking with the "gain" and I asked for made a special case. A couple days after I have a new model for my Jasjar, beautiful and always in my belt.
They really made a handworked job, artesanal. Try to send an e-mail and ask for your ideal case or whatever.

[y-cell.co.il]

I have the great chace to visit Piel Frama in the south of Spain. I was talking with the co-workers, all are really friendly and open to ear you what do you need. I was talking with the "gain" and I asked for made a special case. A couple days after I have a new model for my Jasjar, beautiful and always in my belt.
They really made a handworked job, artesanal. Try to send an e-mail and ask for your ideal case or whatever.

can yoot take a picture of the new case?

thank's
omry

[delor]

hi,

i got my piel frama case at ebay.de (germany, don't know about availability in israel) at €39,95, which is by far the cheapest i have seen and more than compensates for the free shipping piel frama offers. it was an original, came in the original nice box and all! :lol:

here's a link, this is the same guy i bought it from (recommended!)

http://cgi.ebay.de/Piel-Frama-Ledert-T-Mobile-MDA-pro-O2-XDA-exec-rot_W0QQitemZ5843636129QQcategoryZ38994QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

laters,

dennis

[LinuxGeek]

I came across this deal on ebay (UK):

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5845495318&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

[cidriver]

Please, find as attachment the pictures you ask me.

[y-cell.co.il]

how much did you add moeny ?

[cidriver]

Excuse me, I don't understand your question, can you repeat it please?

[Melty]

I think he means how much did it cost. Or how much EXTRA did it cost?

Apologies if that's not what you meant, but even so, I'd like to know the answer as I think that case looks rather nice.

[cidriver]

As I wrote, I was in the south of Spain, I visit the Piel Frama Store in Ubrique and I meet every worker. The gave me a big favor, and I didn't pay extra money. As everyone knows, we have a special device, ist to heavy and has a lot of buttons. They also learn with people like you or me, the listen the customer and then they develope new models or ideas.

[Melty]

I think it's great that they did that for you at no extra cost. I wonder if they will add your case to their list of available cases.

Do you find that the clear plastic sheet over the keyboard traps a lot of dust? This is the only thing that is stopping me from buying one of these casesd at the moment.

[cidriver]

Melty, I know somebody who has the new model and he has no problem, in fact, he told me the plastic is a very good quality, support the JJ without no problems. Yo can also press any key without no problems.
My case, dosen't has the plastic you mentioned.

[Melty]

Aha! So part of your modification was to remove the plastic. Did you have to change anything else to hold the Universal more securely? In other words, do you think that if I bought a standard case and just removed the plastic myself it would still hold the device safely? (i.e. does the plastic hold the device at all?) If so then I will definitely buy one. Sorry for all these questions, but I don't want to buy a case which does not do what I want!

[cidriver]

Not, I took the first one, til then, Piel Frama modified the case. Why? Costumer said they have some problems to close the JJ totally. So Piel Frama received a disclaim and start to work in a new model. The model is with plastic as you saw in Piel Frama Internet page. I have the old one, I used a lot so I don't have any proble to close the JJ. A friend of mine has a review and some pics. http://sagit1964.blogspot.com/2005/12/funda-avestruz-by-piel-fra_113440007311726582.html

Hope I help you a litte bit.

[Melty]

I see. So it's possible that removing the plastic would make the case less secure (i.e. the Universal could fall out).

Thanks for all your help. :)

[cidriver]

My idea, the plastic is an advance to protec your Jasjar and the Qwerty. Do not remove it.

[cidriver]

Remember, Piel Frama, only make case for our Jasjar without the extra accesory we were talking about. Is my responsability, they told me, the Jasjar is more than 285 grs. is to heavy for this kind of material (the plastic for belt) dosen't work for a long terms. So, that's why they sold that case without the belt plastic accesory.
This is my 3 Piel Frama Case and always with the best quality, that's why they sell the produts in more than half world. Handmade!!!!

[alex66]

well, I am glad to hear happy people. My case is still in its box and there will remain. the new design didn't improve it, to my modest opinion. closing issues still remain and moreover the plastic is horrible.
i paied 70 euros and saw it on a site (I will post the URL but now don't remember) at about 50!
anyway, it is not the price. it is just that I think they could think of a different holding system but still want to stick with the same one.
bye

[universaldoc]

Hey Alex!!!

Howse it going mate? Still not sore at me i hope :)

I am quite happy with my Piel Frama case and highly recommend it to everyone. Regarding the price factor, the reason you find it cheaper elsewhere is because Piel Frama include's shipping charge in their price and the shipping method is through UPS worldwide which means you receive the case in 2 working days doesn't matter where you are :)

I would ask you to try out the case for sometime again, you just might like it the 2nd time around.

Cheers!

[alex66]

Hi Universaldoc! how are you?
I know, actually I'd rather deal directly with Pielframa and pay more for a better service and a faster and more secure shipping method.
However Ican't understand why they want to stick with that choice of cutting the leather still to high and cover the keyboard up till the rubber bumpers.
I am so sure it would so easy for them to implement a much more convenient and practical holding mechanism for the device. They would also avoid that horrible plastic.
Anyway, mine is still looking for a good handcrafter to get the necessary improvement. As it is, there is still to much pressure on the hinge and it doesn't close as it should. Personal opinion.
I wish you a happy new year!!!!