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LinuxGeek
28-12-2005, 02:19 PM
What is the best GPS for Universal / XDA EXEC / Jasjar ?
Best deal ?
Thanks.
fslunatic
28-12-2005, 04:48 PM
I made the jump to a new GPS mouse, as I was tired of waiting up to 10 mins for acquiring a signal. With this new one I can have it in my pocket and be in a restaurant and still get a signal....it's just amazing. The Holux GPSlim236 Wireless GPS Receiver has a SiRF-Star-III high sensitivity chipset built-in, which makes it work so well. I have yet to experience signal acquisition taking longer than 60 seconds. Usually it's around 10 to 15 secs.
Works flawlessly with my MDA Pro (QTEK 9000 software) and Navigon 5.
Specification:
‧Tracks up to 20 satellites
‧Receiver: L1, C/A code
‧Update rate: 1 HZ
‧Antenna Type: Built in Patch Antenna
‧Minimum signal tracked: -159dBm
‧Dimension: 46.3 × 67 × 19 mm
‧Weight : < 56g
‧On/Off switch : Slide Switcher
‧Operation Temperature: -10 ℃ to + 60 ℃
‧Store Temperature: -20 ℃ to + 85 ℃
‧Operation Humidity:5% to 95% No condensing
Position Accuracy
◆ Non DGPS (Differential GPS):
‧Position : 5 - 25 m CEP without SA
‧Velocity : 0.1m / sec
‧Time : 1 μsec sync GPS time
Acquisition Time
‧Reacquisition 0.1 sec. averaged
‧Hot Start 8 sec. averaged
‧Warm Start 38 sec. averaged
‧Cold Start 42 sec. averaged
Protocol & Interface
◆ Compatible with Bluetooth devices with Serial Port Profile (SPP)
‧Bluetooth™ version 1.1 compliant
‧Bluetooth™ Class 2 operation (up to 10 meter range)
‧Frequency : 2.400 to 2.480 GHz
‧Modulation: FHSS / GFSK
‧RF channels: 79
◆NMEA Protocol Output : V 2.2 (optional V3.0)
Baud Rate : 38400 bps
Data Bit : 8
Parity : N
Stop Bit : 1
Format:GGA, GSA, GSV, RMC, VTG
Optional : GGL, SiRF Binary
Dynamic Conditions
‧Altitude : 18,000 m ( 60,000 feet ) max
‧Velocity : 515 m/sec ( 700 knots ) max
‧Acceleration : 4G
‧Jerk : 20 m/sec, max
LED Function
Bluetooth , Navigation Update and Battery / changer status Indication
GavinN
28-12-2005, 04:51 PM
Hi LinuxGeek,
I recently bought a 'inter-active information' BT GPS off eBay and it works a treat with both my M5000 and Symbian 60 mobile. In reality all GPS are much the same. You only need a 12 channel receiver for SatNav etc as only 3 sats are needed for 2D nav and 4 sats for 3D nav but 8 sats will give you a good accurate fix so don't be tempted to get a 32 channel receiver. I've been recommended to get a GPS receiver with RFMD or SRIF III chipsets due to the cold & warm aquisition times.
Hope this helps...
Gavin.
griffog
28-12-2005, 05:50 PM
That is incorrect. They are not 'all the same' although most SSIII receivers offer sim ilar excellent performance.
If at all possible, choose a SirFStarIII (SSIII) receiver.
cidriver
29-12-2005, 09:36 AM
I have a very commun GPS named, socket BT GPS, I bougth in Expansys (Spain) almost a year ago. The price, 113,00 €. It is the first global standard for short-range wireless communication. Bluetooth also provides low power, standardized connections between a wide range of consumer, enterprise, and industrial devices. The Socket GPS receiver will track up to 16 satellites and provide position accuracy down to 2.5 meters and with the removable, rechargeable battery provides up to 9 hours of continuous use.
This is the link: http://www.socketcom.com/product/GP0820-521.asp
gazela00
29-12-2005, 10:46 AM
The best is Garmin GPS10. Very tiny, magnetic support inside and woks fabulous, till 5 meters in deep water and is the only one that works inside a airplane, because measures velocity till 1280 Km/h. The others when the plane reachs 400-500 Km/h stop sync....It´s not cheap, but is the best...
griffog
29-12-2005, 11:11 AM
The best is Garmin GPS10. Very tiny, magnetic support inside and woks fabulous, till 5 meters in deep water and is the only one that works inside a airplane, because measures velocity till 1280 Km/h. The others when the plane reachs 400-500 Km/h stop sync....It´s not cheap, but is the best...
They 'ALL' work in aeroplanes! Don't make claims about things that you know nowt about!
fslunatic
29-12-2005, 11:24 AM
The best is Garmin GPS10. Very tiny, magnetic support inside and woks fabulous, till 5 meters in deep water and is the only one that works inside a airplane, because measures velocity till 1280 Km/h. The others when the plane reachs 400-500 Km/h stop sync....It´s not cheap, but is the best...
Ehhh......where on earth do you get the deep water info from? Garmin states: "submersible in one meter of water for up to 30 mins". They also mention "Waterproof — so it can be mounted outside the car for a clear view of the sky". I find the Holux quite amazing, it even keeps a signal captured when I put it in the stowaway area located behind the handbrake, in-between the two front seats! No outside mounting required here ;-)
gazela00
29-12-2005, 11:44 AM
The best is Garmin GPS10. Very tiny, magnetic support inside and woks fabulous, till 5 meters in deep water and is the only one that works inside a airplane, because measures velocity till 1280 Km/h. The others when the plane reachs 400-500 Km/h stop sync....It´s not cheap, but is the best...
They 'ALL' work in aeroplanes! Don't make claims about things that you know nowt about!
Yes, they all work in aeroplanes....near a window...till 400-500 km/h... But at 900-100Km/h in a comercial airplane how many work? Have you tried? or is just theory? I´ve tried MANY "cheap" gps receivers (ex. Holux 230...) and work till 400-500Km/ my friend... Read the complete specifications and give a try...it´s the best way to achieve acknolege...
It's the same underwater. I use My garmin GPS10 till 25 meters in deep water without capsule... I´ve logs from my underwater computer...So, give it a try
griffog
29-12-2005, 11:53 AM
Yes, they all work in aeroplanes....near a window...till 400-500 km/h... But at 900-100Km/h in a comercial airplane how many work? Have you tried? or is just theory?
Yes I have tried! All consumer GPS are limited to 1000Kts and 60,000ft altitude. I don't know of any commercial aircraft that fly above those limits!
It's the same underwater. I use My garmin GPS10 till 25 meters in deep water without capsule... I´ve logs from my underwater computer...So, give it a try
I also find that claim impossible to believe. The high frequency signals will not propagate through a few mm's of water let alone 25m! Are you using a surface antenna?
techDot
11-01-2006, 02:58 AM
fslunatic:
I bought the same GPS device, but my Exec is not able to identify it.
I would appreciate it if you could you tell me if you made any changes to the registry and which COM port are you using (in fact it would be execellent if you could list all of the setup details); Or could you please reffer me to the relevant forum pages.
Thanks
ncruz
11-01-2006, 11:55 AM
The best is Garmin GPS10. Very tiny, magnetic support inside and woks fabulous, till 5 meters in deep water and is the only one that works inside a airplane, because measures velocity till 1280 Km/h. The others when the plane reachs 400-500 Km/h stop sync....It´s not cheap, but is the best...
They 'ALL' work in aeroplanes! Don't make claims about things that you know nowt about!
Yes, they all work in aeroplanes....near a window...till 400-500 km/h... But at 900-100Km/h in a comercial airplane how many work? Have you tried? or is just theory? I´ve tried MANY "cheap" gps receivers (ex. Holux 230...) and work till 400-500Km/ my friend... Read the complete specifications and give a try...it´s the best way to achieve acknolege...
It's the same underwater. I use My garmin GPS10 till 25 meters in deep water without capsule... I´ve logs from my underwater computer...So, give it a try
Did you read the posts before yours?
You have the full specs for hollux gpslim 236 where it states clearly 700 knots do you know how many 700 knots is? You're right it's 1300 km/h
fslunatic
12-01-2006, 12:05 PM
Hi techDot,
I didn't do anything unusual really. I switched on the GPS device and then activated Bluetooth on my MDA-Pro. I then let the MDA-Proi look for Bluetooth devices. It found the GPS and then I set up a standard partnership....it took less than 2 mins.
I believe I am using COM0. What navigation software are you using? What particular steps are you going through?
I didn't touch the registry or anything....all very straight forward. Hope we can help you and get it working.
fslunatic:
I bought the same GPS device, but my Exec is not able to identify it.
I would appreciate it if you could you tell me if you made any changes to the registry and which COM port are you using (in fact it would be execellent if you could list all of the setup details); Or could you please reffer me to the relevant forum pages.
Thanks
fslunatic
12-01-2006, 12:06 PM
<<Did you read the posts before yours?
You have the full specs for hollux gpslim 236 where it states clearly 700 knots do you know how many 700 knots is? You're right it's 1300 km/h>>
LOL! Hehe......
gratz
22-01-2006, 11:14 PM
Assuming i were to by the one suggested by fslunatic, what would be the best navigation software? i don't know a great deal about this subject. I have been looking at the tomtom software but, a) can't find somewhere that just sells the software / maps and b) find anywhere that says it is compatible with the HTC universal (XDA Exec in my case) windows mobile 5 software.
Anyone shed any light?
P.S. How much did you pay for yours fslunatic?
griffog
23-01-2006, 07:19 AM
I use an O2 Exec with TomTom 5 and it works superbly.
gratz
23-01-2006, 09:47 AM
Excellent did you manage to just by the software from somewhere or did you buy the 'tomtom kit' they mention on the website that includes the GPS unit and all? i'd rather by the GPS unit mentioned by fslunatic and buy tomtom software separately, assuming it's all compatible of course (anyone know?).
Melty
23-01-2006, 12:55 PM
gratz: Try looking here: http://www.tomtom.com/products/product.php?ID=109&Language=1
EDIT: Doh! They don't sell it on their website! Try here: http://www.pdamods.com/proddetail.asp?prod=X1TTSOFT for UK on an SD card or here: http://www.pdamods.com/proddetail.asp?prod=X2TTSOFT for the rest of Europe.
gratz
23-01-2006, 01:01 PM
£120, just for the software? That's ridiculous :shock:
The best is Garmin GPS10. Very tiny, magnetic support inside and woks fabulous, till 5 meters in deep water and is the only one that works inside a airplane, because measures velocity till 1280 Km/h. The others when the plane reachs 400-500 Km/h stop sync....It´s not cheap, but is the best...
They 'ALL' work in aeroplanes! Don't make claims about things that you know nowt about!
Yes, they all work in aeroplanes....near a window...till 400-500 km/h... But at 900-100Km/h in a comercial airplane how many work? Have you tried? or is just theory? I´ve tried MANY "cheap" gps receivers (ex. Holux 230...) and work till 400-500Km/ my friend... Read the complete specifications and give a try...it´s the best way to achieve acknolege...
It's the same underwater. I use My garmin GPS10 till 25 meters in deep water without capsule... I´ve logs from my underwater computer...So, give it a try
Did you read the posts before yours?
You have the full specs for hollux gpslim 236 where it states clearly 700 knots do you know how many 700 knots is? You're right it's 1300 km/h
Do you guys all have your own planes? It's just that I've never had the need for Sat Nav on a commercial plane before. I find they rarely take a wrong turn ("At the next fluffy cloud, turn left") and no matter how many times I enter my post code they always take me to a flippin airport! :wink: :lol:
On a serious note, is there a plug and play packege that needs no clever programming or other jiggery-pokery to get working?
Thanks,
Dunc
Melty
26-01-2006, 02:19 PM
I just got the Holux GPSlim 236 this morning and it's awesome. I got a lock with 9 (NINE) satellites whilst sitting at my desk at work! With my fortuna clip-on I'd be lucky to get any unless I was using it in XT mode (which is not desperately accurate unless you are moving as you probably know). SiRF Star III really is incredible!
This GPS is tiny, weighs almost nothing and works fine with TomTom on my XDA Exec. Great!
Melty,
Is that running with Tom tom5?
Thanks,
Duncan
Melty
26-01-2006, 02:52 PM
Yes Dunc. TomTom 5.21.
Will Tom Tom 5.1 work on the Exec?
Will Tom Tom 5.1 work on the Exec?
gratz
01-02-2006, 12:41 PM
Could anyone recommend me a GPS unit for use with HTC universal tomtom 5 navigator, which Melty kindly found a cheap version of with just UK maps. I've been looking at the following:
http://www.pdamods.com/products.asp?cat=16
And quite like the look of this (as recommended by Melty):
http://www.pdamods.com/proddetail.asp?prod=A1TTBTGPSGS
Though i have also looked at the official tomtom GPS receiver, though am not sure which / both would be compatible and with the best reception. Could anyone advise?
Melty
01-02-2006, 01:41 PM
I hate to harp on, but the Holux one is superb. I use it in my coat pocket in my Renault megane (which has a metallised windscreen which is impervious to radio signals such that my Fortuna ClipOn had to be placed on the rear parcel shelf).
Incidentally, I got mine from this guy for £77.50 delivered (via special delivery): http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Holux-GPSlim-236-Bluetooth-Wireless-GPS-Receiver_W0QQitemZ5859868597QQcategoryZ4668QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem and it arrived the next day.
gratz
01-02-2006, 04:19 PM
Would it be worth getting a 32 channel GPS Unit, such as:
http://www.handnav.co.uk/product_details.php?id=468
Currently undecided between the
Holux GPSlim GR-236 (20 Channel)
and
Rikaline 6033 (32 Channel)
Has anyone tried this with the HTC Universal, WM5?
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