Turbo Modus found on Pro/VPA4 !!!

[AgentJ]

Hi !

All the times i´m sure, that the same Turbo-Modus from WM 2003SE exist deep in the WM5 too.
People call me, Jay, you are crazy!
Since one Week ago i find the Turbo-Modus ! :D

We tested it on the German-Forum http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=81949

It´s the same Speed-Up Feeling like on the XDAIIi or other Devices with the Turbo-Modus On.
No 50% or 1000%- Booster, but you can feel a better "Easy-Going".
It works on some other WM5-Devices too !

First, you only take a "new" Key to the Registry, copy the Power-Programm from WM2003 SE, start the Power-Programm,
go on new Processor-page and:
The Turbo-Modus exist and can be activated !

Here is the key:
HKEY_Local_Machine\ SOFTWARE\HTC\Power
Put a D-String with Name "ProcessorPageFlag" 1 Dec.

I made a reg.-File who write the key, and i put it with all needed files in one .zip-File.
Password: Agent Jay

First try the reg.-File, than copie the Files, if you want, you can overwrite the files in the Windows-Directory, but backup the originals !
Put the power.lnk File in the autostart/startup Directory, and now, after every Softreset, you can activ the Turbo-Mode.

It works perfectly, you can only feel the Speed-Up on really full Memory Pro´s, not really on empty Pro´s. Don´t know why.

Problems: After a Softreset it goes on "Standard-Mode", it must be activated again manual by Hand.
But these five Seconds for restaring Turbo-Modus during a startup are OK for me.
Anyone can it handle or find a way, to save the turbo-modus forever ?

I hope you like it !

Greetings from Germany,

Agent Jay

[AgentJ]

???

[q-biq]

Is it workin or just eating up my alredy bad battery? :/

[FOSA]

I just installed yesterday on my QTEK9000 and I 'think' its smoother in operation.

Not very sure about it


As I''m running XCPUScalar and some other speed up registry tweaks if there's any speed increase its definitely not noticeable


Thanks

[AgentJ]

It´s not possible to detect the faster speed, because it don´t push up the megaherz-rate !
But you can feel the faster performance.
No more power using from your battery !

[Melty]

So it speeds it up without speeding up the processor or using any more battery power? Hmmm. Surely if that were possible then the "Turbo" mode would be the default mode and no other mode (like "slowmo" mode) would exist?! :wink:

Could it be that the Turbo page is something that is built in to WM5 but which was disabled on the Universal since it does not support it?

[oltp]

Seems to work on my Magician

[philtech44]

Can anyone pinpoint the actual benefit of this tool?

Exactly what difference is experienced??

[AgentJ]

The benefits are a faster and a feeling of "liquid" working.
Thats it.
Menus open faster, Windows open faster, the handling is therefore better.
No longer hickups, ...

It´s like Aspirin for a guy with headache.
After the Aspirin he don´t run faster, but he have no longer headache :wink: and make a better work.

I think, every little speed up of our device- help us !
Try it or leave it.

Regards,
Jay

[universaldoc]

It really wont make a difference on the HTC Universal because it already has a 520 MHz processor. With the PDA2, the processor was underclocked to 416 Mhz and the power-up option was useful there.

UD.

[AgentJ]

Thats not correct. It works on the Universal too !
First users here and some more users on german forum had tested and feel
more Speed. You can´t test it with benchmark-apps, because you don´t speed up the processor. Don´t know exactly, what it is, but it works.
Test it yourself and than reply !

Greetings,
Jay

[universaldoc]

Alright Jay, will keep you updated :)

Cheers.

[@ngel]

Uhm... it *seems* to do something to the general responsiveness of the Universal, the hourglass appears for less time now.

I'll keep testing it... thanks for the clue.

[kshfahmy]

Are you sure with this password. It is not working to unzip it !!!!!!!!!



:oops: :oops: :oops:

[Asukal]

i made cab files for this. easy installation.

i think this can make it easy!

thanks! AgentJ!

[siam_breeze]

i made cab files for this. easy installation.

Thank you MR.Asukal!!
Gooooooooood Job!!! :D

[Asukal]

i made cab files for this. easy installation.

Thank you MR.Asukal!!
Gooooooooood Job!!! :D

not thanks to me but to AgentJ, i had just assembled his mirachle!

Camrade Siam_breesze!, you must use Japanese Flag on your prifle,
not any others! or you wll be missed AIKOKU_set in future! :lol:

[cktlcmd]

Does it really work?

[Asukal]

So it speeds it up without speeding up the processor or using any more battery power? Hmmm. Surely if that were possible then the "Turbo" mode would be the default mode and no other mode (like "slowmo" mode) would exist?! :wink:

Could it be that the Turbo page is something that is built in to WM5 but which was disabled on the Universal since it does not support it?

when i modefied Power.exe in Jasjar to mui,
i have found this entry in that resources.

are there any way to visuable those entry in the Power.exe???

[in the String Table 260]

4144, "Speed"
4145, "Auto (400MHz)"
4146, "100MHz Run mode"
4147, "200MHz Run mode"
4148, "400MHz Run mode"
4149, "100MHz Turbo mode"
4150, "200MHz Turbo mode"
4151, "300MHz Turbo mode"
4152, "400MHz Turbo mode"
4153, "Change <file:ctlpnl myCpl,5{beam}> settings to conserve power."
4154, "Backpack"
4155, "Backpack battery:"
4156, "Over Heat"
4157, "Battery Bad"
4158, "Unknown"

[maitomo]

When VGA was used in full scale, a set screen where this processor was changed to the turbo mode was not displayed.
It seems to be able to use it only for QVGA.
I am using OzVGA.

[prusling]

Same for me - no tab in VGA, but set OK in QVGA; will report on results

Pete

[AgentJ]

@asukal:

Perfect !

But what really happend exactly with your cab-File ?
Only install in same way(manual activate Turbo-Mode after every Softreset)
or do it now automaticly and stay forever(Turbo-Mode stay activ after Soft-Reset) ?

Do you know, why it works not on all Universals, and what is the Turbo-Mode exactly or how does it work in the system?

Thanks & Greetings,

Agent Jay

[universaldoc]

Been testing it for a bit. Dont see a shred of a difference.

On a side note, i now see a "backup battery" option under "Power". Whats the deal with that?

[AgentJ]

How full Memory is on your Universal ?
It works better with really full Memorys.
You put the Button on Turbo and say OK ?
What is your ROM-Version ?

The backup battery mode is from the old XDAIIi on WM 2003SE.
The Universal has no Backup Batterie... therefore...

Don´t know, why it works on some Universals and not at all devices.
In the german forum we have now 9 from 12 counted user with a really good working turbo-mode.
Thats 75% positiv results.
Perhaps someone here can find the reason.

Greetings,
Jay

[Asukal]

@asukal:

Perfect !

But what really happend exactly with your cab-File ?
Only install in same way(manual activate Turbo-Mode after every Softreset)
or do it now automaticly and stay forever(Turbo-Mode stay activ after Soft-Reset) ?

Do you know, why it works not on all Universals, and what is the Turbo-Mode exactly or how does it work in the system?

Thanks & Greetings,
Agent Jay

Thanks!

i just made CAB accrding to your file location.

*Power.lnk in the \StartUp foloder
*Power.exe and Power.exe.0407.mui and PowerStateOn.exe in to \windows folder.
*the registry key shall be written as your reg file.

i wonder the location of PowerStateOn.exe is correct??

i dont know how to excute PowerStaeOn.exe??

@I can feel faster, but some of my friend said nothing feel changed.
@Also some of them reported, the cab installation was rejected by security.
So i think Some device with high security, can not read power.exe effect??
just guessing.

The Power.exe will be excuted after reset, and select it to Turbo Mode manualy, it mean not forever. it must adjust manualy.

And my previouse CAB,
If the device is not English OS, the Power.lnk can not be located Startup<in your language>.

So i fiexd it.
the Power.exe is excused automaticaly after every soft reset,
If it was not, the, the power.lnk is not located in your startup corectry.
You must place it manualy.

[taurus_bull]

How full Memory is on your Universal ?
It works better with really full Memorys.
You put the Button on Turbo and say OK ?
What is your ROM-Version ?

The backup battery mode is from the old XDAIIi on WM 2003SE.
The Universal has no Backup Batterie... therefore...

Don´t know, why it works on some Universals and not at all devices.
In the german forum we have now 9 from 12 counted user with a really good working turbo-mode.
Thats 75% positiv results.
Perhaps someone here can find the reason.

Greetings,
Jay

Hi There ,

Can u let me know the procedure to install the files in the Zip file after extracting power.exe* i dont find in the explorer.

Cheers, Taurus.

[AgentJ]

@asukal:

Great Job ! In Germany the AutoStart-Folder called "Auto-Start" :D
In all other Langs it is "Startup"-Folder. :?

It´s strange. But i see it during installation of "Card ExportII", a program to make the Universal to a Card Reader for SD-Cards. Same Problem.

Back to our Problem:
Another Friend of my have the same Power.exe from a Pocket Loox 720:
He got 4 Settings (!) on the processor-page:

Turbo: 520 Mhz
Standard: 312 Mhz
Power Saving: 104 Mhz
Automatic: what do you think :wink: ?

It seems, that WM5 can do more things, that we should see !

But your guess about the security-settings are a good idea.

The location of PowerStateOn.exe is correct ! I copied in this order directly from \Windows-Folder. ALL the files are original from the Windows-Folder !

Greetings from white snowing Germany,

Agent Jay

[sl9]

In the medical community, there is a term known as the 'placebo effect', I think that is what this is...

If you believe it works for you, then that's great - enjoy your faster universal :) But I'm gonna wait until someone can actually measure a demonstrable improvement before trying it out, some benchmark app that fills the ram by opening/closing loads of apps and timing that should tell for sure. :)

[AgentJ]

It´s definitly no Placebo !
If you want a booster with 1000% higher Performance, than
buy some ram-chips and put it in the Universal !
That the only way to a measurable Speed with all your Benchmark-Apps.

If you know something about WM5 Memory-Distributing, you should know, that the processor work in an automatic mode, and push the frequence higher, only when the automatic mode feel, that he now needs more power. Fact is, that this process needs a little bit time.
You feel that as an delay, as a slow work of your Universal.

You need some Tricks and Hacks for a minimum higher Performance, a faster wake-up for the frequence.
This is one of them. Try it or leave it.
On some devices it works (not at all) and it is so much more Performance,
that i wan´t miss that thing.
The different is a better feeling in working with our Device.
The Different is that small kind of something, who we need, that the universal speed is now "OK",- not really good.
Before Turbo-Mode, the speed is definitly not "OK".
And many other user feel it too.

Greetings,
Jay

[sparkyxda]

There is some speed improvement when fully loaded.
e.g when TomTom is running I can switch to TrafficTV and back quicker than before. Maybe 20-30% quicker.

With just 1 application running nothing seems any different

[AgentJ]

You´re right ! I tested myself and thats rocks !
If you have more open Programs, the switch between this programs are really quicker!
Thanks !

Jay

[ChArLiE M]

the cab that is mentioned , where is it, I cannot find it anywhere - anyone?

EDIT = oops I wasnt logged in!!!! - sorry

[asci]

I'm testing it on my JasJAr with latest official I-Mate ROM.It seems to work fine...
:wink:

[universaldoc]

@asci,

Latest official i-mate ROM? Did they happen to release a new ROM?

UD.

[urksaddy]

testing now...

[RyanZA]

What exactly does this do? :/
It could just as easily be some type of virus/trojan/who knows what

[AgentJ]

Don´t Panic!
If you take a look in the zip-file, you can see the files in the cab.
It´s only the MS-own power.exe and the files who work togehter with it.
Take a look in your Universal and you find the same.
It´s only a copie from my WM2003-System with more Options !

Greetings,
Jay

[asci]

@asci,

Latest official i-mate ROM? Did they happen to release a new ROM?

UD.

O no! The last one...months ago...
:cry: :cry: :cry:

[bandito66]

Anyone could post original power.exe of Universal ?

Thanks in advance

[asci]

Anyone could post original power.exe of Universal ?

Thanks in advance
here it is...
:wink:

[bandito66]

Thank you very much ;)

[ndee]

Hi AgentJ,

could you have a look at the problem with ozVGA, cause I am using that as well only on my MDA pro and like to test your booster, but I see no settings on my screen.

Greets from Austria

ndee

[argh2000]

Strange..I can't seems to install the Uni_turbo. It prompt "Does not have sufficient system permission"

Can someone pinpoint my mistakes here? I'm using Exec. Thanks

[fakbrenjeri]

@argh2000
Disable the security on your XDA and try again

HowlingWolf
Kosova

[argh2000]

It works great! Thanks for the disablesecurity cab fakbrenjeri

:)

[guttrhead]

would this work on a wizard as well, or is it just for x-scales?

[cktlcmd]

I installed it but felt no speed up plus my OK button does not work if I use it to close the screen selection option. I am required to hit the OK button on the right upper part of my screen manually to get back to the today screen after the required soft reset. So with this experience, I am uninstalling it now. :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

[Tuningszocske]

I told before, but again:

PLACEBO, PLACEBO
NANANANA NAA NAAA :roll: :roll: :roll:


IT CANNOT BE FASTER!!!

[HuiBuh]

Don't know if i understand right:
Is this TurboMode only a CPU-Overclocker?
If so - why don't use XCPUScalar and run it after SoftReset via Autorun (~StartUpFolder)?
No need to click something after SoftReset. ;)

Edit: Ah, sh... its not Freeware - mpf...
forget it if u don't want to pay for or if you don't want to use it illegal (via eMule, etc)...

Greetings
HuiBuh

[Tuningszocske]

It is NOT a cpu overclocker!

There is nothing to switch to turbo mode!!!

It doesn't do anything just make power settings mess.



FORGET ABOUT IT!

[Talon]

i feel speedup... but how make "turbo mode" is default? after each soft reset - it stay on "normal mode"...

[Tuningszocske]

oHHH God! :cry:

[FOSA]

Hi AgentJ

How's your Turbo compared to the one here:-

http://www.pocketphone.fr/index.php?mod=forum&ac=voir&cat=9&id=6156

Attached cab file in rar format

[wanwei]

can anyone guide me on how to use the patch in Ozvga, pls?

[svyatko]

hi, There 's definitely an improvement, in performance, I have noticed that the phone does not stuck on the return from stand by, well, almost. and the screen rotation does seem to be faster....

Hey Talon, nice to see Beloved Flag around :D

[cktlcmd]

Hi AgentJ

How's your Turbo compared to the one here:-

http://www.pocketphone.fr/index.php?mod=forum&ac=voir&cat=9&id=6156

Attached cab file in rar format

Did you try installing this on your EXEC?

It looks similar to the files of the first UniTurbo. Looking at the pictures from the link, this one does not seem to show an indicator for a built-in battery unlike the 1st Uni Turbo version.

[FOSA]

cktlcmd

Yes, I installed it on my QTEK9000 and the backup battery shows up which I think is useless since the set doesn't have one.

[cktlcmd]

Yes, I installed it on my QTEK9000 and there's a backup battery now which I think is useless for my QTEK9000

Don't worry I did this same thing about a month ago. :D

Did you notice any speed up?

[FOSA]

Can't see anything faster as I'm also using XCPUScalar set at 624MHz? Do you think this program is better than AgentJ's?

[cktlcmd]

Can't see anything faster as I'm also using XCPUScalar set at 624MHz? Do you think this program is better than AgentJ's?

The only thing I favor is it is smaller than Agent J's file. So less conflict can occur hopefully.

[FOSA]

You still need to activate the Tubo Mode after each soft reset :roll:

[cktlcmd]

You still need to activate the Tubo Mode after each soft reset :roll:

It would be nice if someone can configure it automatically after resets.

[wanwei]

can anyone guide me on how to use the patch in Ozvga, pls?

can anyone help with my qn pls?

[chavepeyer]

You should have a look on the news of www.pocketphone.fr

Sorry for non-click link but ...pocket IE

Seems to be a miracle what they've found...

[TheBlasphemer]

Alright, let me get this straight.
I've seen some guy on the French forum mention earlier:
"Sur mon V1640 Spb Benchmark en mode normal ou turbo les résultats sont identiques?? "
which supposedly means something like
"On my V1640 Spb Benchmark normal mode and turbo mode produce identical results"
It seems to me that it's just a placebo effect :/

I also read something about the processor waking up faster from "standby". This might indeed be somewhat of a speed-up, but I refuse to simply believe it without any technical explanation :P

So here goes, can anyone actually explain what this app does?
And while you're at it, a little tutorial on what exactly you have to install, as I see several .cab's and .exe's and I'm not quite sure which I should run ;)

Oh and last request, PLEASE try to type proper english ?

[Tuningszocske]

It seems to me that it's just a placebo effect :/
That's what I try to say but nobody can hear it. It cannot be faster! It is not able to do that. NO NO NO NO NO.

[chris_khho]

Honestly, I found this cab make my xda exec faster when just after reset, it loads the menu much faster than before. However, if u load the second times, it's the same. Also, same thing happens to loading program at the first time (especially from SD card).

At the end, I removed this cab make my device hang more easily...happened a few times, more frequent compared to not installed mode....

Thanks for the cab but I think a more stable one is better for me cause I have so many programs installed....

Cheers,

[tw]

Alright, let me get this straight.
I've seen some guy on the French forum mention earlier:
"Sur mon V1640 Spb Benchmark en mode normal ou turbo les résultats sont identiques?? "
which supposedly means something like
"On my V1640 Spb Benchmark normal mode and turbo mode produce identical results"
It seems to me that it's just a placebo effect :/

I also read something about the processor waking up faster from "standby". This might indeed be somewhat of a speed-up, but I refuse to simply believe it without any technical explanation :P

So here goes, can anyone actually explain what this app does?

Yes. Sorry to burst all your bubbles :) but there is no magic "Turbo" mode on the Universal since it runs all the time in "Turbo" mode at 520 MHz anyway. You are right. It is just a placebo effect. I know it's hard to admit. ;)

So let me explain:

This Power.exe file is copied from an HTC Alpine (sold for example as XDA 2i by O2 in Germany). The Alpine has a so called "Standard" mode which sets the device to 416 MHz and a so called "Turbo" mode which sets it to 520 Mhz.

Since invoking it on my Universal made no difference at all I have looked into Power.exe using an disassembler and it does nothing but calling into a DLL (\Windows\OEMExtDLL.dll from HTC) to invoke there the function SetDeviceSpeedMode() to set it to one of these modes. Again I have extracted this DLL from the ROM and disassembled this function. This function just calls a KernelIOControl() to set the CPU clock (and the other system clocks). There is no "magic" there. Forget about it.

This DLL and these functions exist in the Universal ROMs as well but both modes set the Universal to exactly the same parameters which result in 520 MHz CPU clock. Therefore you can switch back and forth between the two modes using the Alpine's Power.exe and it seems to remain at the mode. But since both modes set the same speed parameters in the CPU it has no effect whatsoever.

You can easily check that by using a tool which displays the CPU settings, like for example CPUID v1.7:
http://www.pocketpccity.com/software/files/CPUIDv17.zip

You will see that it will display on the Universal 520 MHz for both modes, Standard and Turbo. While it will display on the Alpine 416 MHz for Standard and 520 MHz for Turbo.

[Talon]

cpuid show the curent mode: turbo
but CPU curent frequency : 416Mhz

[oltp]

The same on my magician, SPB Benchmark shows little improvement though 0.0718532% so very very insignificant.

Amen, M

[Timewarp]

If you do a soft reset on my Magician and then run the CPUID program, it says Current Mode: Turbo without even enabling it in the extended Power program.

[Timewarp]

<duplicate post>

[oltp]

& when you select standard mode, the CPUID program still says Current Mode: Turbo.

So placebo unfortunately.

[Lui-kim-Su]

Universal SpeedUp Placebo Version 3.0 :lol:

[cmartin]

Sorry, but I noticed no performance change.

The best performance tweaks I found here:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other

Here the FileSystem and Font Cache settings and the Animation settings make the biggest performance changes.

I also realized that Wisbar Advance 2 slows down the Universal extremely. :( It's too bad, 'cause I really loved the skinnable Title bar. But, it bugged me too much that the whole thing war totally sluggy.

I recomend doing those Tweaks in the link above. I haven't experienced better performance than with these tips.

[RRibeiro]

Hello all.
I installed this cab file on my Qtek9000, but now I want to come back to the original state, but I can't uninstall the cab file.
How can I restore the original power files?

Thanks

[cuteangelika]

hmm.. it seems that guys really want stuff to be fast (and furious...haha). i am tempted to try this app but well, in the end, i opted not to. U just need to have patience. Wait for the menu to show one by one, wait a few seconds to change portrait to landscape, wait for the hourglass to finish. :)