This could be it (External Answer/Reject keys)

[SooSpecial]

When playing a file using TCPMP, close the Jasjar (Universal), the screen and the keyboard will go off. But the external 2 keys (red and green ones) stay on.

Anyway to keep them on?

Come on guys !

[hoss]

I think they are lit up by the backlight no?

[gooroo]

It has already been confirmed that there are seperate led's for the answer and hang up buttons, although they do seem to go off at the same time as the back light this is only because they are programmed to do so, not because they share the same led's.

[SooSpecial]

How come they stayed on and the backlight off then?

[vijay555]

Guys, the external keys are lit by the same juice that powers the screen and the keyboard. I wrote a hack to provide this functionality already in one of the other threads on this issue. However, keeping the keys functional will the clam closed is a harder problem.

V

[SooSpecial]

Guys, the external keys are lit by the same juice that powers the screen and the keyboard. I wrote a hack to provide this functionality already in one of the other threads on this issue. However, keeping the keys functional will the clam closed is a harder problem.

V

But the lid was CLOSED and the screen was off, and the external keys stayed ON

[rottie]

How? It never happens to me.

[vijay555]

The external key lights can be forced to stay on with the same code used to keep the backlight on. However, forcing the backlight on, but then turning the screen off (ie by closing the clam while TCPMP or VJElectrify etc is running) then the screen is off, but the external keys stay lit up.

SooSpecial: when the lights on, are they responsive to clicking? eg, pressing the external green key - will you go into phone mode with the clam down? Try using AEButtonPlus and assign an app to the red and green keys. Put the clam down. Do the red/green keys respond?

V

[SooSpecial]

How does TCPMP get to leave them on?

It's technically possible then

[vijay555]

SooSpecial. Can you use the keys for anything with the clam down? Do they do anything? Are you assigning functions to them in AEButtonPlus and/or TCPMP and they're responding to presses with the clam down?

As I've said, keeping the lights on with the clam down is easy. Getting the device to respond to them with the clam down is harder AFAIK.

V

[rottie]

Vijay, they don't respond with the lid down. Doesn't matter assigned or not.
That's what I'm crying about all the time... :wink:

[vijay555]

rottie :roll: exactly. SooSpecial seems to suggest that the keys do something with the clam down. I've not managed to get anything out of them so far. I know it's possible (because the phone app does it), but I need to discover what kind of notification the phone generates in order to re-enable the keys. I need some new tools that I'm trying to chat with Buzz about, before I can make much more progress...

But as I said, keeping the buttons lit up is easy. Enabling them to do something is harder...

V

[dima_the_chief]

rottie :roll: exactly. SooSpecial seems to suggest that the keys do something with the clam down. I've not managed to get anything out of them so far. I know it's possible (because the phone app does it), but I need to discover what kind of notification the phone generates in order to re-enable the keys. I need some new tools that I'm trying to chat with Buzz about, before I can make much more progress...

But as I said, keeping the buttons lit up is easy. Enabling them to do something is harder...

V
Hello vijay555, All!
Neither AEButtonPlus nor TCPMP cant cath these buttons, and all other (like sound volume) with the calm down.
Also, regarding the TCPMP, it would be very usefull to assign the wired head set "Answer\Hang" button to the, let say, "Next track" function of the TCPMP. Is that some how possible?
As far as I have investigated:
- this "Answer\Hang" button is not treated as a hardware keyboard button, and it should use it's own driver? (physically, this button works by a short cut of Ground and Mic, and the device treats this as the "Answer\Hang" button click);
- the Answer and Hang external buttons works with the calm closed to answer\reject the incoming call. So, the Phone app can access them with the calm closed;

BR, Dima_the_chief

[vijay555]

dima_the_chief: progress has been made on the external key hack... it's being tested. But it will hopefully be everything we need it to do. I don't know why HTC ever made the decision to disable this.

V

[StevePritchard]

dima_the_chief: progress has been made on the external key hack... it's being tested. But it will hopefully be everything we need it to do. I don't know why HTC ever made the decision to disable this.

V

I'm guessing it's to prevent unwanted button presses when the Exec is in your pocket, or as you pull it out of your pocket...

Cheers,

Steve.

[vijay555]

But why not make it optional? :roll:
The Wizard has enough fun waking itself up as you pull it out of its holster, so why not permit a useful feature? Sigh.

V

[StevePritchard]

But why not make it optional? :roll:
The Wizard has enough fun waking itself up as you pull it out of its holster, so why not permit a useful feature? Sigh.

V

Agreed.

Cheers,

Steve.

[cktlcmd]

This is a wonderful idea. Here is what I notice about those green and red phone buttons on the hinge:

It has a separate light than the screen backlight and the keyboard backlight. Why? I noticed everytime I perform a soft reset while charging, the 1st thing that will come on is the screen backlight. After a few seconds, you will notice the screen backlight becomes brighter and with it the green & red phone buttons on the hinge also lits up. So maybe the key lies in a similar application that Vijay developed before, I believe VJLumos? You guys can try and soft reset while the Universal is charging and watch closely the screen backlight and the green-red phone buttons.

[vijay555]

cktlcmd: guys, we've managed to isolate the "issue" with controlling the external keys with the clam closed (much of this was not my work, it's the work of a genius), so eg I'm using VJCandela with the clam closed. I presume this should extend the whole distance, full control of TCPMP etc with clam closed. No reason why not.

However, the solution is still being tested and tweaked. No further discussions on it for now, don't want to get anyone excited before time. Parts of VJElectrify are part of the solution.

V

[dima_the_chief]

cktlcmd: guys, we've managed to isolate the "issue" with controlling the external keys with the clam closed (much of this was not my work, it's the work of a genius), so eg I'm using VJCandela with the clam closed. I presume this should extend the whole distance, full control of TCPMP etc with clam closed. No reason why not.

However, the solution is still being tested and tweaked. No further discussions on it for now, don't want to get anyone excited before time. Parts of VJElectrify are part of the solution.

V

WOW!!! This IS a great news!!!
Our great thanks and donations to all you, genious!!

[vijay555]

much of this was not my work, it's the work of a genius
Don't thank me - at least not entirely :) But as I said, no further discussions for now.

V

[pim]

any news ;-)
Thank you