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addr
05-02-2006, 01:13 PM
Hi All!
I'm newbie here. Please, don't beat me for my question :).
I've got Qtek 9100, and now want to play with ROM. BUT! I read a lot of here, and haven't found the Full ROM Backup programm. Is it possible? Or, the only way to backup my original ROM partly, using aWizard?
Thanks for any help.

edsub
05-02-2006, 03:07 PM
The aWizard tools do Backup all of the rom except bootloader.
BUT: The ExtROM is backuped in single files which is a problem when you want to insert the ExtROM back into the Wizard: because with the newer ROMs (1.6.x) the ExtROM can only be made visible (and stays read-only).

Button
05-02-2006, 03:19 PM
addr You can backup full ROM to SD card, and then to your PC.

Click my signature to get the tool.

addr
05-02-2006, 07:46 PM
Ah, great! :D
That's the very thing i was looking for! :o
Thanks Button!

Button
08-02-2006, 04:53 PM
... i can't upload my ROM to SD Card, after entering r2sd all i got:
Cmd>r2sd all
***** user area size = 0x1E980000 Bytes
R2SDBackup() - Download type = 6
usTotalBlock = 1 sizeof(SDCARD_SIGNATRUE_TABLE)=512
You didn't get the proper security level to download a specific image
Sorry, it was a bug in my command file, so CID-unlocking was failed.
Now everything works fine. Please, re-download the tool (click my signature).

lanerebel
08-02-2006, 10:16 PM
I tried using your backup for my ROM, because I was going to upgrade. I'm definitely a newbie at ROM upgrading and backing up...

After running the backup utility, my Qtek won't see my mini-sd card anymore. Do you know how I can make it see my card again? Did the process reformat my card or is there another problem?

Thanks!
Joe

huangyz
09-02-2006, 03:34 AM
I tried using your backup for my ROM, because I was going to upgrade. I'm definitely a newbie at ROM upgrading and backing up...

After running the backup utility, my Qtek won't see my mini-sd card anymore. Do you know how I can make it see my card again? Did the process reformat my card or is there another problem?

Thanks!
Joe

the data backup in your mini-sd-card is not FAT compliant. but it's OK for restoring using Qtek's rom-flash procedure.
in another way, you can use tools like WinHex to view,edit or save your mini-SD to a PC as a raw binary file.

Button
09-02-2006, 08:32 AM
I tried using your backup for my ROM, because I was going to upgrade. I'm definitely a newbie at ROM upgrading and backing up...
After running the backup utility, my Qtek won't see my mini-sd card anymore. Do you know how I can make it see my card again? Did the process reformat my card or is there another problem?
Thanks!
Joe
If you have already saved your ROM image to PC (myrom.bin file), you can format SD card, and use it as always.

the_invisigoth
09-02-2006, 09:34 AM
Um, I have a noobie question as well...

Will a full ROM backup take a backup up of everything installed after being shipped from the manufacturer, i.e. programs, reg settings etc., or will it only backup the basic ROM and extended ROM, i.e. what you're left with when you hard reset your device?

Button
09-02-2006, 09:50 AM
the_invisigoth Yes, only ROM, not installed apps.

odyseus
10-02-2006, 10:12 PM
Hi Button,

Does your program backup the whole ROM (ie OS + Extended) or just the OS??

Is there a way to backup the OS only so that I can backup the latest Qtek OS part only. Reload my T-mobile extended ROM then restore the Qtek OS only ROM, giving me the latest OS with my T-mobile customisation??

Cheers

John

Button
10-02-2006, 11:21 PM
Hi Button,
Does your program backup the whole ROM (ie OS + Extended) or just the OS??
John
It backups Full ROM = OS+ExR+Radio+SPL/IPL+Splash..
Use aWizard to backup your ROM partly.

twist
01-03-2006, 07:47 PM
I needed Button's program before I updated to 2.8.7. I have a cingular 8125 I upgraded to 2.8.7 it overwrote my extended ROM, when I flashed everything back from awizard I relaized my extended ROM was not restored, so I flashed to 1.5.4 so I could access the extended ROM, but it downgraded my IPL and SPL to 1.?? from 2.??. So once I restored my extended ROM in 1.5.4 I upgraded just the OS to 1.8.11 from my original backup, and now when I do a hardreset it locks up during extended ROM installation. Unless I can find a way to edit the extended ROM on 2.8.7 I wont be able to restore my unit to original specs. Unless someone uses Buttons program on a Cingular 8125 and uploads it somewhere for me. I am gonna return this unit to frys and purchase it at the cingular store for a bit cheaper price. So I was hoping to restore it to orignal specs so the next helpless frys customer dosent get stuck wth a funky unit. Thanks all!

FarSeide
18-03-2006, 12:15 PM
@Button,

would this method allow me to replace my 8125 to its original state including the bootloader flash screen ? i am needing to put my 8125 to its original state prior to returning.

I have a new 8125 that i could take a backup of and want to load it onto the one that i am returning. would this work ? thank you

Button
18-03-2006, 12:51 PM
Yes it should work.

FarSeide
18-03-2006, 05:06 PM
Button,

does your program also perform restoral of ROM and all its content from the backup it's made ?

thanks for your help.

Button
18-03-2006, 07:04 PM
Button,
does your program also perform restoral of ROM and all its content from the backup it's made ?
thanks for your help.
It can backup only 'clear' ROM, without programms that you have installed manually.

FarSeide
18-03-2006, 08:34 PM
THANK YOU BUTTON !!!!


I was able to FULLY RESTORE my Cingular 8125 to its OEM Spec including the first boot splash screen !!!!!!!!!

THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!

FarSeide
19-03-2006, 07:17 AM
I spoke too soon.

Here's what happens...

After 8125 has been booted up, on the screen it says, "Data Crashes. Please contact your service Provider". And if you see on the top left corner, it says SIM LOCK. It will not let me reload the image again from the SD card from the bootloader. When I press the Voice Dial, it says, No Update Allow!.

I've tried to run the aWizard and Lokitz tool to unlock again but to no avail.

Have you seen thsi before ?

Button
19-03-2006, 10:44 AM
First, try to flash an old rom (from bootloader mode), - run any ruu. Then, unlock SIM and CID, if it is need. And then use SD card to restore your original rom.

FarSeide
19-03-2006, 05:01 PM
When I try to run any RUU from the Bootloader, I get a Invalid Vendor ID.

DO you know if this would void any warranty from Cingular ?

Button
19-03-2006, 06:10 PM
When I try to run any RUU from the Bootloader, I get a Invalid Vendor ID..
It seems, you didn't unlock CID in the very beginning..
You should run original RUU now.

footang
20-03-2006, 01:05 PM
Hi Button,

I used your App to copy the Rom from my Wizard and looks fine.

When I try to reinstall the orginal ROM using your app, it started the progress, installed SPL 1.1, rebooted my Wizard but my Wizard is no longer recognized by Activesync to complete the process!

As I have the "myrom.bin" file, how could i restore this from my SD card? Can i use your program or do I need soemthign else?

Thanks

footang
20-03-2006, 01:48 PM
I have another problem now. I Hard Reset my phone hoping that it will put everything back to normal, but I still have

IPL 1.01
SPL 1.01

The Phone component doesnt work, the battery indicator tells me theres no more left, ActiveSync will no longer recognize the phone and and I cant power off the phone.

Since ActiveSync isnt recognizing the phone, I cant reinstall any Roms. I do have the backup "myrom.bin" file and an SD card. I've tried several times rebooting holding the Camera button. All i get is a 3 color screen that says
IPL 1.01
SPL 1.01

But there is no message or option to restore from SD Card.

Can anyone help me out?

Thanks


EDIT-Update:

I was finally able to reinstall the QTEK ROM from RUU while in Bootlader. UNfrotuantely, i dont understand what went wrong as I cant reinstall "myrom.bin" if the process disconnects teh Wizard from Activesync.

It all went wrong when I chose YES to installing IPL 1.01. Will it work if I leave the current 2+ version?

Thanks

Button
20-03-2006, 07:40 PM
You shouldn't downgrade ipl/spl 2.08-2.17 to 1.01.
2.08-2.17 work fine with SD cards.

FarSeide
21-03-2006, 12:03 AM
nothing seems to work for me.

Whent he SIM card is in the phone, i get "Data Crash" message with SIM LOCK indicator on the top left.

But if I remove the SIM card, then no error messages.

I hope Cingular wont tell me that the warranty has been voicded. Would they know ?

Button
21-03-2006, 11:17 AM
FarSeide When you restored the rom from image, did you choose 2 - Restore ROM and CID or 3 - Restore ROM only?
If 2 - that is very bad.. You shouldn't restore CID from other device cid-image (lock_backup.bin), because it is original..

FarSeide
21-03-2006, 06:03 PM
FarSeide When you restored the rom from image, did you choose 2 - Restore ROM and CID or 3 - Restore ROM only?
If 2 - that is very bad.. You shouldn't restore CID from other device cid-image (lock_backup.bin), because it is original..

Yeah thats exactly what I did. I guess I am screwed.

Do you know if Cingular will noticed that I had messed with the ROM ?

Button
21-03-2006, 07:17 PM
FarSeide When you restored the rom from image, did you choose 2 - Restore ROM and CID or 3 - Restore ROM only?
If 2 - that is very bad.. You shouldn't restore CID from other device cid-image (lock_backup.bin), because it is original..
Yeah thats exactly what I did. I guess I am screwed.
Do you know if Cingular will noticed that I had messed with the ROM ?
It's hard to find out what has happened, and then they must prove your fault..
Did you try to flash original rom from bootloader?

FarSeide
21-03-2006, 07:28 PM
Yes I did try to load the original ROM from bootloader but I was getting "No Update Allow" message.

Button
21-03-2006, 07:39 PM
There is another way to unlock CID, but for 20GBP:

http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php

FarSeide
21-03-2006, 07:54 PM
There is another way to unlock CID, but for 20GBP:

http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php

I really appreciate everything you have done for me Button.

I had to return the phone back to Cingular so hopefully they wont come back and say I did something.

thanks again

iboj007
22-03-2006, 07:07 PM
Button,

Would it be ok to use a 64mb miniSD to backup my Qtek 9100 ROM?

Button
22-03-2006, 08:14 PM
Button,
Would it be ok to use a 64mb miniSD to backup my Qtek 9100 ROM?
:shock: I've never seen 64Mb miniSD cards ...
The answer - NO. Full image size is 73927168 bytes.

mr_skot
25-03-2006, 05:26 AM
Button, thanks for the utility. Others have suggested a terminal connection to the device over USB but I can't find anything after hours of searching.

I have two questions.

When restoring the original ROM Your directions say I "...should install first the BootLoader IPL/SPL 1.01. Do not refuse, when the program will suggest to make it." Does this mean your program has a default bootloader image that it will install automatically?

Also, since I have already done a CID Unlock via aWizard and have a lock_back.bin file, if I needed to restore my original T-Mobile USA Rom would I install your 1.01 bootloader, then use my own lock_back.bin along with the rom backup your program makes?

Thank you in advance.

mr_skot
25-03-2006, 06:51 AM
Ran your utility and now have two files: lock_backup.bin and myrom.bin copied to my hard drive.

Excellent work. I was able to flash to the 2.17 T-Mobile US ROM with extra piece of mind.

Thanks again.

Button
25-03-2006, 09:44 AM
mr_skot You should not downgrade IPL/SPL to 1.01 if you have 2.08 - 2.17 (and newer) ROM.
To restore your CID, you should use 'the first' lock_backup.bin (from awizard).

daniel.a.rezende
27-03-2006, 03:53 PM
Hi all, about the ROM backup , there is a way to backup the original ROM to the PC directly (without a miniSD card) ?

Button
27-03-2006, 09:08 PM
Hi all, about the ROM backup , there is a way to backup the original ROM to the PC directly (without a miniSD card) ?
Not yet..
Maybe some_smart_one can write such programm. :)
I think it is possible to do in bootloader mode :roll: .

jnyepu
27-03-2006, 11:10 PM
How do I know if the T-Mobile stock ROM backup is done?

I'd like to be 100% sure I've backed up the ROM before I go flashing with the latest, greatest builds (e.g. xelencin's).

The completion bar at the bottom of the MDA screen next to "USB" has completely filled (I guess implying its done copying the image?), and the last line TeraTerm displays is "WriteDataToSDCard() - pusSourceAdd"

There's been no activity for at least 5 minutes on the MDA or the PC. And nothing shows up that says "backup complete" or anything like that.

Can I safely disconnect the USB cable at this time -- is the ROM backed up to the MiniSD now?

jnyepu
28-03-2006, 02:05 AM
I redid the T-Mobile stock ROM backup since I haven't gotten a firm response to my query about what completion of the backup looks like (actually, redid it twice). Both times the results was as below.

You don't actually get any kind of formalized "process is complete" prompt.

Instead, the completion bar next the the "USB" at the bottom of the MDA is full, and on TeraTerm, this is what is looks like:

(bunch of other messages before this)
-WriteDataToSDCard() - pusSourceAddr = 0x8CB00000 , ulSourceLength=0xA00000
Double Check 0 Start=0x80000000, Length=0x800, Checksum=0xDCDA598A
Double Check 1 Start=0x80000800, Length=0xC0000, Checksum=0xD9316F31
Double Check 2 Start=0x800C0800, Length=0x40000, Checksum=0x8AA9A67C
Double Check 3 Start=0x80100800, Length=0x280000, Checksum=0xEA461346
Double Check 4 Start=0x4E3D4C0, Length=0x3900000, Checksum=0x58FE1D88
Double Check 5 Start=0x743D4C0, Length=0xA00000, Checksum=0xDC9C91B8
usTotalBlock = 1 sizeof(SDCARD_SIGNATRUE_TABLE)=512
+WriteHTCSignature,download type = 5
Common Info Checksum=0xE256BE04
-WriteHTCSignature...

Cmd>

I presume since the bar is full and it brought me back to a command prompt, the backup was successfully completed.

oakwestplayer
29-03-2006, 10:39 PM
hey button, im trying to download your backup tool but all i get is a picture of bill gates and some language i cant understand. is there another place i can DL it at, or am i missing something?

bnycastro
03-04-2006, 09:58 AM
excuse the noob question:

If I have the Qtek 2.8.x.x Test ROM on my 838 and flash it with the 2.16.x.x ROM will I be able to flash it back to 2.8 or lower with just the RUU? Or is it necessary to flash from SD to go back to an older ROM version?

Button
03-04-2006, 10:59 AM
No difference - from ruu or from SD, you just need to have unlocked CID.

bnycastro
03-04-2006, 11:26 AM
Thanks button :o)

neevedr
03-04-2006, 10:28 PM
How to get all the files (one by one) from de wizard to my pc, including the hidden/read only files (.dll) from the windows folder? So i get a mirror from the wizard files/folders on my pc?

frisco
26-04-2006, 09:56 AM
No difference - from ruu or from SD, you just need to have unlocked CID.

Does that mean, I dont need to do a backup of my original TMobile (1.3.2.5) ROM when I have the file: RUU_Prodigy_1060201_107_11210_TMO_DE_Ship.exe?

With that file I could always restore it to a provider version of the ROM (I unlocked with Lokiwiz already) after I tried out e.g. the 2.18 QTEK?

--
Dirk, newbie to ROM upgrading :)

LeoBley
04-05-2006, 08:32 AM
hey button, im trying to download your backup tool but all i get is a picture of bill gates and some language i cant understand. is there another place i can DL it at, or am i missing something?

Is there any update on how to get Backup RUS?

Papa_I
04-06-2006, 07:09 PM
@ huangyz "you can use tools like WinHex to view,edit or save your mini-SD to a PC as a raw binary file.", could you walk me through how this is done with WinHex? I do have the program just don't know how to make the backup file of my minisd card from a card reader. Just want to make sure I do this correctly, because this isn't something I want to screw up. Thank you.

XShell
20-07-2006, 01:57 PM
Is anyone still have the programm from Button?
I can't download from the site, so send it to xshell(at)front.ru, please
Or just tell me the name of programm - i'll try to find it by my self..
Button, отзовись, помоги Россиянам! :)

flskgrd
30-07-2006, 10:39 AM
since button has bailed on PDA any one have his tools they can post ?

d0ug
17-11-2006, 06:37 AM
There is another way to unlock CID, but for 20GBP:

http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php

Will this CID unlock a G4 device?