Wizard ROM ported to BA - v1.0-ToMa discussion

[KTamas]

I think this deserves its own topic. Original post from Tuatara:
Hi everyone ...

Sorry, I've run out of time for providing you with an updated ROM which I wanted to have feature complete. I'm off on vacation tomorrow for 2 weeks, and can't keep working on it until I'm back.

I've been playing around with many things (adding/removing files, fixing the Midlet Manager, updating Camera, etc.) but I haven't got the ROM to the point where I feel it's 100% ready for others - but having said that, I've uploaded it to XDA Dev, and you're welcome to give it a try and see if it improves things for you.

This is MAINLY an update from Mamaich's v2a ROM, which does contain the Quantum Timing Patch, and the Performance Tweaks.

I've also made a few filesystem changes - predominantly removing the Midlet Manager (which wasn't working), applied all of the Performance Tweaks as per the thread (and a few more), changed the default startup elements to suit my tastes (at the moment), and added some useful programs and details to the ROM. (psShutXP, Running Programs, Shortcuts to missing elements, etc.)

The ROM is in /Uploads/Blue Angel/wm5_test/Tuatara_v2a_Custom.zip

Inside the ZIP file is the nk.nba file, along with the updated registry files (boot.rgu, default.rgu, and user.rgu) which have been merged in. I've unfortunately forgotten to include initflashfiles.dat in the ZIP, but that file is directly available from inside the ROM anyways.

The ZIP also contains a different EXTROM - only the missing files, camera, and midlet manager are needed now, and there is no warning about publisher on installation anymore. You can obviously customize the EXTROM cfg.txt file to your liking, and install anything and everything all at once.

Additionally the ROM itself still has some additional space for applications, so if you want to cook your own, there is some space available to add more.

Sorry I won't be able to answer any questions about this ROM, or handle issues on it for two weeks, so it's up to you if you want to try it (or just decompose it and look at the changes).

Enjoy, and I hope everything goes well.

Regards,
Robert.
For further information and download, visit the WiKi (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM5_WizardPort_v1 .0-TuMa).

[KTamas]

Personal thoughts: I think this ROM gives some performance boost indeed, not much, but it is noticable. Nearly every bug is fixed now, only the bluetooth disconnect issue is left. My BA is fianlly shows itself disconnected when i take it off the cradle (with the previous ROMs, it often showed that it is still connected).

[paullim29]

Hi, I've tried this ROM & this definitely faster! Thanks!

But I can't seem to enable SmartDialilng by removing the "_" from the mfc80u.dll_ and msvcr80.dll_ files for SmartDial will start to work? These 2 files are missing from this ROM but even after I've copied these 2 files into the \Windows folder, SmartDialing still doesn't work. Any ideas?

[KTamas]

Hi, I've tried this ROM & this definitely faster! Thanks!

But I can't seem to enable SmartDialilng by removing the "_" from the mfc80u.dll_ and msvcr80.dll_ files for SmartDial will start to work? These 2 files are missing from this ROM but even after I've copied these 2 files into the \Windows folder, SmartDialing still doesn't work. Any ideas?
I should take a look at one of the early versions of "New menu for WM5" (anything below 1.0.0 beta). Does anyone still have the CABs?

[rschell]

Hi, I've tried this ROM & this definitely faster! Thanks!

But I can't seem to enable SmartDialilng by removing the "_" from the mfc80u.dll_ and msvcr80.dll_ files for SmartDial will start to work? These 2 files are missing from this ROM but even after I've copied these 2 files into the \Windows folder, SmartDialing still doesn't work. Any ideas?
I should take a look at one of the early versions of "New menu for WM5" (anything below 1.0.0 beta). Does anyone still have the CABs?

Here you go.

paullim29. These correct the problem for me.

[KTamas]

Hi, I've tried this ROM & this definitely faster! Thanks!

But I can't seem to enable SmartDialilng by removing the "_" from the mfc80u.dll_ and msvcr80.dll_ files for SmartDial will start to work? These 2 files are missing from this ROM but even after I've copied these 2 files into the \Windows folder, SmartDialing still doesn't work. Any ideas?
I should take a look at one of the early versions of "New menu for WM5" (anything below 1.0.0 beta). Does anyone still have the CABs?

Here you go.

paullim29. These correct the problem for me.
Created a cab file and added to WiKi. Thanks.

[deepakr]

Hi,
I s to be missing my MMS client. I see an option for the MMS configuration but am missing the MMS application? Anyone facing this issue?

[KTamas]

Hi,
I s to be missing my MMS client. I see an option for the MMS configuration but am missing the MMS application? Anyone facing this issue?
Hmm it seems that MMS is broken in this ROM indeed. Will add to WiKi.

[a771la]

mediaplayer still have a problem for playing in background :(
anybody solve this problem?

[KTamas]

mediaplayer still have a problem for playing in background :(
anybody solve this problem?
You should try a different program, such as GSPlayer or TCPMP.

[a771la]

ok... i use TCPMP
but i want to know mediaplayer don't work on this rom
ok himalaya's rom work for me

[Mr Chicago]

I downloaded the new Rom and having a little trouble trying to download to my SX66. I have upgraded and downgraded the WM5 on my SX66 several times. I was wondering since the rom file is nba instead of nbf does that make a huge difference. I admit have have not messed around with my device data cause I find that a little complicated. I usaully use the MA_Upgrade cause I don't have to tweak too much. Any suggestions?

[KTamas]

I downloaded the new Rom and having a little trouble trying to download to my SX66. I have upgraded and downgraded the WM5 on my SX66 several times. I was wondering since the rom file is nba instead of nbf does that make a huge difference. I admit have have not messed around with my device data cause I find that a little complicated. I usaully use the MA_Upgrade cause I don't have to tweak too much. Any suggestions?
In this case, you should use the harder way. Read step 4 of the upgrading process (see wiki) to upgrade via BaUpgradeUt.exe.

[rschell]

I downloaded the new Rom and having a little trouble trying to download to my SX66. I have upgraded and downgraded the WM5 on my SX66 several times. I was wondering since the rom file is nba instead of nbf does that make a huge difference. I admit have have not messed around with my device data cause I find that a little complicated. I usaully use the MA_Upgrade cause I don't have to tweak too much. Any suggestions?

The nk.nba file needs to be converted back to nk.nbf regardless of whether you use MA_Upgrade or BA_Upgrade. I use MA_Upgrade. There is an modelid entry of the USER.rgu that should be changed to PH20B1. I'm not sure whether these *.rgu files need to be copied to the \windows dir or added back into the nk.nba file. Any thoughts KTamas, i'm thinking the later.

[KTamas]

I downloaded the new Rom and having a little trouble trying to download to my SX66. I have upgraded and downgraded the WM5 on my SX66 several times. I was wondering since the rom file is nba instead of nbf does that make a huge difference. I admit have have not messed around with my device data cause I find that a little complicated. I usaully use the MA_Upgrade cause I don't have to tweak too much. Any suggestions?

The nk.nba file needs to be converted back to nk.nbf regardless of whether you use MA_Upgrade or BA_Upgrade. I use MA_Upgrade. There is an modelid entry of the USER.rgu that should be changed to PH20B1. I'm not sure whether these *.rgu files need to be copied to the \windows dir or added back into the nk.nba file. Any thoughts KTamas, i'm thinking the later.
You don't have to do anything with RGU files at all. You need to use xda3nbftool (with editfix.bat if you want) to patch the ROM.

[kluggie56]

Hi,
just upgraded to new rom and noticed i can't sync calender and contacts.
anybody has the same?

Gr
Paul

[KTamas]

Hi,
just upgraded to new rom and noticed i can't sync calender and contacts.
anybody has the same?

Gr
Paul
Both works well for me...What error exactly do you get?

[kluggie56]

Hi,
just upgraded to new rom and noticed i can't sync calender and contacts.
anybody has the same?

Gr
Paul
Both works well for me...What error exactly do you get?

Nothing....that's strange. I'ts syncing, but Outlook has all data and my BA nothing. I've tryed reinstalling all, but no luck, even reinstalled my BA. No luck sofar.

[kluggie56]

Sorry,
Activesync gives the following message,
There is not enough free memory on tour device to synchronise information. Close programs that are free to up memory, or restart the device.
Ondersteuningscode 8007000e

gr
Paul

[kluggie56]

Sorry,
Activesync gives the following message,
There is not enough free memory on tour device to synchronise information. Close programs that are running to free up memory, or restart the device.
Ondersteuningscode 8007000e

gr
Paul

[Mr Chicago]

RSCHILL how do you conver the nba file to nbf. I'm not sure how to do that.

[rschell]

RSCHILL how do you conver the nba file to nbf. I'm not sure how to do that.

Use the following command:

xda3nbftool -x nk.nba nk.nbf 0x20040521

the xda3nbftool can be found at ftp://xda:xda@xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/Tools

[Mr Chicago]

Is this to be done in a DOS window

[Santiago]

Great Rom, Work almost perfect to me, Thanks :)

Note: Record app in programs do not work.

[KTamas]

Is this to be done in a DOS window
Yes.

[Mr Chicago]

Ktamas or RSCHELL, can one of you explain how to do this. I havent mess around with dos in so long. So right now I'm in the air about the actual converting of the nba file

[nijhof]

rom works fine,
speed improvements are very noticable
still showing activesync as active after i take it out of the cradle though.

what's this smartdial btw? how do i use it?

good work!

[KTamas]

rom works fine,
speed improvements are very noticable
still showing activesync as active after i take it out of the cradle though.

what's this smartdial btw? how do i use it?

good work!
Yeah, I've noticed too, but it recognizes the device "disconnected" more now when i take it out the cradle.

SmartDial is an extension to the phone that should make dialing numbers and contacts easier. You should give it a try.

[KTamas]

Ktamas or RSCHELL, can one of you explain how to do this. I havent mess around with dos in so long. So right now I'm in the air about the actual converting of the nba file
First of all, run GetDeviceData (ftp://xda:xda@xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/Tools/GetDeviceData.exe) on your device. It creates a DeviceData.txt file in \Windows, copy that to the desktop and open it with notepad. You should see something like:
PH20B 0 B GER R T-MOB101 1.12.00 0 0 1.12.100 1.02.00 02.00
The important parts are:
PH20B - this is your device. If you have an SX-66, it is PH20B1 i think.
GER - the ROM language. WWE means World Wide English. If your device has a localizes ROM, it can be GER (german) for example.
T-MOB101 - This is your cell phone provider's code. T-MOB101 means T-mobile germany for example.

Okay, I assume that you've put everything to C:\rom\.
Now, start->run->cmd

This opens the command prompt. Now, do the following:
C:
then
cd Rom
Now, you should see:
C:\rom\>
Now, run:
xda3nbftool -sd PH20B -so T-MOB101 -sl GER nk.nba
This should be pretty self-explinatory, you set the device code with -sd, the operator with -so and the language with -sl. You get these data from devicedata.txt.
Next step is:
xda3nbftool -c -u nk.nba
This updates the CRC checksum in the ROM.
Then:
xda3nbftool -x nk.nba nk.nbf 0x20040521
This creates the nk.nbf file. Now you can run BaUpgradeUt.exe.

[Mr Chicago]

I appreciate the help. I opened the xda3nbftools in the dos window but didn't exactly know what to do there. Thanks again.

[Mr Chicago]

I seem to be having another problem. Here's the deal. I open command prompt without an problem. Now its says:

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>

Now at this point is where I get lost to actual make it show C:\rom\. Everytime I go to put in C:\cd rom\ it says syntax of the command is incorrect. Is there something I'm doing wrong.
Have I have device data and everything I'm just trying to learn how to do this so I will not have to bother you guys with this NOOBIE questions.

[KTamas]

I seem to be having another problem. Here's the deal. I open command prompt without an problem. Now its says:

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>

Now at this point is where I get lost to actual make it show C:\rom\. Everytime I go to put in C:\cd rom\ it says syntax of the command is incorrect. Is there something I'm doing wrong.
Have I have device data and everything I'm just trying to learn how to do this so I will not have to bother you guys with this NOOBIE questions.
First you type "C:". Press enter. Secondly, you type "cd rom". You press enter. This way, it will work.

[avram_z]

i think that you did not write CMD in the run.

the first word its CMD.

for me its work gread.

thank you guys for the good job.

[KTamas]

i think that you did not write CMD in the run.

the first word its CMD.

for me its work gread.

thank you guys for the good job.
He did, he just tried to execute two commands at once :)

[Mr Chicago]

Typing the C: command is what I have been trying to do. But everytime I do it this is what pops up
C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>

When I do it for d drive this is what pops up
D:
Now I know a little about computer but the C drive in CMD is stuck to the one up top in this post. Any suggestions. Is there a registry hack which can prevent the C: command from defaulting to the documents and settings.

[KTamas]

Typing the C: command is what I have been trying to do. But everytime I do it this is what pops up
C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>

When I do it for d drive this is what pops up
D:
Now I know a little about computer but the C drive in CMD is stuck to the one up top in this post. Any suggestions. Is there a registry hack which can prevent the C: command from defaulting to the documents and settings.
Ah, sorry, forgot one step, do the following:
type
c:
press enter. then
cd \
press enter. then
cd rom
press enter.
Now you should see "C:\rom>"...

[Mr Chicago]

Thanks again. But do you get the program xda3nbftools tools to excute the commands. In other words when I try to put in the device data do I do it like this
C:xda3nbftools -sd PH20B1 -soXGULA001 -sl WWE nk.nba
Or is there another way cause I keep getting the incorrect syntax message

[KTamas]

Thanks again. But do you get the program xda3nbftools tools to excute the commands. In other words when I try to put in the device data do I do it like this
C:xda3nbftools -sd PH20B1 -soXGULA001 -sl WWE nk.nba
Or is there another way cause I keep getting the incorrect syntax message
So, you see:
C:\rom>
then you have to write (in your case):
xda3nbftool -sd PH20B1 -so XGULA001 -sl WWE nk.nba
then press enter.

[a771la]

what can i do to replace mediaplayer from himalaya version?

[Mr Chicago]

I appreciate your help Ktamas but its just not working fo me. Would anyone be able to post the correct nbf to this file. Thanks again

[joecartoon22]

i am running into a bug here with the button controls. i am trying to assign the a program to a key but after a soft reset that option goes away and it is returned to default configuration. as well i have my buttons locked except the power button when the phone is off but that option is also resetted after a soft reset. i was if anyone has a fix or experiencing the same dilemma?

[KTamas]

I appreciate your help Ktamas but its just not working fo me. Would anyone be able to post the correct nbf to this file. Thanks again
Okay, here is a bat file, right click -> save as, save to anywhere, rename it from mrcfix.txt to mrcfix.bat and just run it. If you have nk.nba and xda3nbftool into C:\ROM, it'll work and generate you an NBF file, with your settings (PH20B1 - XGULA001 - WWE).

[avram_z]

i just see that the GPS BT did not work.

did anyone else try it?

[Mr Chicago]

I try to run the mrcfix.bat file but once again I get an error message. It says its not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

And again thanks. You have extended the hand way beyond the help point.

[KTamas]

I try to run the mrcfix.bat file but once again I get an error message. It says its not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

And again thanks. You have extended the hand way beyond the help point.
Are you really sure you have both nk.nba and xda3nbftool.exe in the ROM folder of the drive C? I've tested the batch file and it generated the nk.nbf file for me...

[Mr Chicago]

Well it is in a temp folder in the C: drive

[KTamas]

Well it is in a temp folder in the C: drive
Then put all of them into the ROM folder of your C drive and run the batch file again.

[Mr Chicago]

Well I'm in the Windows folder and don't see a rom folder. Do I just place the batch file into the system32 folder or create a folder titled rom and place them there.

[Mr Chicago]

I have conquered. YES. I have done it. I have created the nbf file that is needed. Thankyou Ktamas I was about to give up.

[Santiago]

Amaizing...

[SysCrasher13]

this rom works a lot better, has anyone figured out why the roaming indicator stays on all the time? Im on the cingular network, and when I search for the available networks, I only see the ATT network I dont see the cingualr network, does anyone has the same problem?

[KTamas]

I have conquered. YES. I have done it. I have created the nbf file that is needed. Thankyou Ktamas I was about to give up.
Good to hear :)

[borjok536]

I have tried the ROM, and its amzing. Speed is tolerable..
but still got some problem regarding the speakerphone, it doesnt work on a single press (though the message is prompting that the speakerphone is already activted), you have to press again the call button..
When i soft resetted the device often, there are times that i will be stackd on the colored stripes screen. Nothing happens until you do a hard rest.

[avram_z]

did some one try to a GPS BT, because my did not work.

i try to set in the out com to com8 but always its jump to incom com.

[Madog ap Rhys]

The rom is realy good. But I've got problem: now it uses more battery. I've got 1.42 before and It worked 1,5 days, now less then one........ Where can be an answer?

[Mr Chicago]

I'm having a problem with the messaging. On the today screen I go to open my messages and my device freezes. Anyone else witht this problem. Overall the upgrade seem pretty decent. I just have that one problem so far.

[screwloose]

HI I have some problems during the update. When i run the devicedata.exe on my PPC i get the following

P H 2 0 B W W E AT%CID? 
  * 5 . 0 3 . 0 2 1.1.9.106 1.15.00 % 4

Could any one tell me what i'm doing wrong as i'm unsure what "so" value to use when using xda3nbftool.exe

thank you

[KTamas]

I'm having a problem with the messaging. On the today screen I go to open my messages and my device freezes. Anyone else witht this problem. Overall the upgrade seem pretty decent. I just have that one problem so far.
Do you sync your e-mails? That can cause that. Try disabling it.

[KTamas]

HI I have some problems during the update. When i run the devicedata.exe on my PPC i get the following

P H 2 0 B W W E AT%CID? 
  5 . 0 3 . 0 2 1.1.9.106 1.15.00 % 4

Could any one tell me what i'm doing wrong as i'm unsure what "so" value to use when using xda3nbftool.exe

thank you
I think "so" is "AT%CID?".

[KTamas]

The rom is realy good. But I've got problem: now it uses more battery. I've got 1.42 before and It worked 1,5 days, now less then one........ Where can be an answer?
Weird, for me, WM5 has slightly better battery life. I was using 1.31 in the WM2003SE days though.

[KTamas]

did some one try to a GPS BT, because my did not work.

i try to set in the out com to com8 but always its jump to incom com.
There is a tutorial somewhere (in the WiKi I think) for tomtom 5 and it has something about GPS too, you might want to read it.

[a771la]

what can i do to replace mediaplayer from himalaya version?

YES !!!! it works!!!! :D :) :wink:
i ported mediaplayer from hima to wizard rom

but now i miss a skin :(

can you help me?

[eriksurya]

Hey, i encountered problems with this rom. The contact and calender apps are broken, cant be opened. Help me....

[KTamas]

Hey, i encountered problems with this rom. The contact and calender apps are broken, cant be opened. Help me....
Works well for me. What error do you get?

[KTamas]

Also, to everyone who has problems with this ROM: Have you done a WM5 hard reset after upgrading? This is really required.

[efjay]

what can i do to replace mediaplayer from himalaya version?

YES !!!! it works!!!! :D :) :wink:
i ported mediaplayer from hima to wizard rom

but now i miss a skin :(

can you help me?

a771la, can you tell me how you did it? I have tried to edit a rom myself but always get errors when trying to flash the complete rom.

For the skins, they for WMP10 right? You should have three files in \program files\windows media player called Default(landscape), Default(portrait), Default(Square).

[splonker]

HI I have some problems during the update. When i run the devicedata.exe on my PPC i get the following

P H 2 0 B W W E AT%CID? 5 . 0 3 . 0 2 1.1.9.106 1.15.00 % 4

Could any one tell me what i'm doing wrong as i'm unsure what "so" value to use when using xda3nbftool.exe

thank you
I think "so" is "AT%CID?".

I too have this problem which seems weird as when I upgraded to WM2005 the device data said my so was o2___001. I tried this but it said it was not for my device.

Screwloose: Any success?
Anyone: Does anyone know why the 'So' has changed?

Kind regards

Leo

[jimp]

The rom is indeed faster (alot) .. you can even see it by the screen alignment! :) Microsoft Voice works perfectly and all operations seem to work ok..

Having some issues with Wifi tho. I use SJPhone for Voip and im having similar issues we had with Skype where the wifi died until soft reset. Does it randomly more often than not. (a new version will be out for WM5).

Using wifi tends to make the device alot slower.. I havent tested bluetooth yet.

Another thing i noticed, it takes longer to boot. Maybe its something its using.. smart dialing maybe.. need to test it abit more.

[borjok536]

Is there a way to save files from Temp Disk after doing a hard reset?
Can I install the WidComm BT Stack 3900?
Another problem is the messaging, sometimes it freezes, opening a single message takes 6 to 10 seconds? Is there any solution to this?
One good thing with this ROM is that we can repartition our device using the BA repart doc.

[borjok536]

Another thing I noticed, when I install applications, it does not add to REmove Programs, why? Any solution to this?

[gmonster13]

nice update, especially psShutXp. Did some quick tests and this version is def. faster.

Button lock still not working.

[mr_ding]

Will give it a try later this week. :)

Keep up the good work.

[borjok536]

Button Lock not working? It is working...

[KTamas]

Another thing I noticed, when I install applications, it does not add to REmove Programs, why? Any solution to this?
Yes. Before soft reset, turn off your device for 10-15 secs and/or use a software to do the soft reset.

[borjok536]

ok, thanks. BTW, thanks also for this ROM, I did not repartitioned my BA before upgrading, but to my surprise, the BA Repartitiondoc we have for WM2003 is working in this ROM
Regarding the SunnySoft Backup, when i restore all the files (including the Regestries), it doesnt work, I will have to do a hard reset again. But, selective restore is working. So what can be the problem? Or I will have to do another try? hehehe
Ktamas, Can I install Bluetooth Widcomm build 3900?
Hope sooner you could update again this ROM, and have a solution to the delayed opening of Messaging app...

[KTamas]

Ktamas, Can I install Bluetooth Widcomm build 3900?
Hope sooner you could update again this ROM, and have a solution to the delayed opening of Messaging app...
No, you can't, it'll give you the usual "insufficient driver memory etc." error, unfortunatelly. However, I've seen in reviews that the new Asus A632/636 ROMs has WM5 and the Widcomm stack (1.7? I think). So, if someone could dump the ROM from his/her device that has widcomm stack with wm5, that could be a good starting point I guess, but mamaich knows this part better.

The messaging app delay is interesting, and I have no clue why is that happening. However, since this rom has no mms profile (by a bug), it *seems* that it loads faster, so it can be related to MMS.

[Madog ap Rhys]

Thanks all for answer, but I have another question: fist time I've installed previous WM5 and made localization, then I downloaded new ROM and installed it and for now I've got in "programs" two version of files in russian and in english (some files such as Excel, powerpoint etc. are shown but not working). How can I solve this problem (during new installation)?
Thanks.

[KTamas]

Thanks all for answer, but I have another question: fist time I've installed previous WM5 and made localization, then I downloaded new ROM and installed it and for now I've got in "programs" two version of files in russian and in english (some files such as Excel, powerpoint etc. are shown but not working). How can I solve this problem (during new installation)?
Thanks.
Do a hard reset, then install the localization.

[avram_z]

Also, to everyone who has problems with this ROM: Have you done a WM5 hard reset after upgrading? This is really required.

it solved the GPS BT problem, thank you.

[Madog ap Rhys]

I did it. And in SturtUp folder exist two copies of all files..... Can I doing a new installation somehow format my device?

[al_3sjad]

Thanks a lot this version fast then other one. :)

[meisocool]

I've tried this ROM,and it works great,and fast..way better and faster than the previous version.and after doing some cooking for my own extended rom..it's definately getting better. :D

but anyway untill now i still can't make an extended rom which include auto config with a some operator on it like in my wm2003se...so now anyone here can help me add auto config with all south east asia gprs/mms configuration to the original extended rom of this version,and upload it here..i really need it,cause i use a lot of browsing.

thanks :)

[Tuatara]

Wow! There has been a lot more response to this than I thought there would be! It's good to see that the performance improvements are working and noticeable for most people. Apologies for the issues - I'll get to those as soon as I can.

Remember to HARD RESET after the ROM upgrade - otherwise the registry will be incorrect for your device. Also do not restore an old registry back onto your BA as this too will probably cause problems.

We really have mamaich to thank for 90% of the speed improvements - Ramdisk & Quantum Timing change enable most of the performance tweaks.

Since there is so much interest in this, I'll be working on it again when I get back home. With a bit more time I'm sure we can solve the last remaining issues.

Back home on the 23rd, so I'll probably work on it that night. ;-)

BTW: Surfing Xda-dev on my BA now. :D

Tuatara.

[gmonster13]

Button Lock not working? It is working...

Not working on mine. If i set "lock all buttons except power button" and close the settings then i resets itself to "do not lock programs". any idea how this can be changed (e.g. directly in the registry)?

Thanks

[KTamas]

Button Lock not working? It is working...

Not working on mine. If i set "lock all buttons except power button" and close the settings then i resets itself to "do not lock programs". any idea how this can be changed (e.g. directly in the registry)?

Thanks
Don't set button lock in the button settings. Set it at "button lock", at the inidividual option in control panel.

[gmonster13]

Button Lock not working? It is working...

Not working on mine. If i set "lock all buttons except power button" and close the settings then i resets itself to "do not lock programs". any idea how this can be changed (e.g. directly in the registry)?

Thanks
Don't set button lock in the button settings. Set it at "button lock", at the inidividual option in control panel.

just tried and that one works perfect. thanks!

[splonker]

HI I have some problems during the update. When i run the devicedata.exe on my PPC i get the following

P H 2 0 B W W E AT%CID? 5 . 0 3 . 0 2 1.1.9.106 1.15.00 % 4

Could any one tell me what i'm doing wrong as i'm unsure what "so" value to use when using xda3nbftool.exe

thank you
I think "so" is "AT%CID?".

I too have this problem which seems weird as when I upgraded to WM2005 the device data said my so was o2___001. I tried this but it said it was not for my device.

Screwloose: Any success?
Anyone: Does anyone know why the 'So' has changed?

Kind regards

Leo

I retryed every possible solution, changing the 'so' values to anything from o2___001 to AT%CID? however nothing worked..

The Device Data states that the device is P H 2 0 B with a space after each character which cannot be right, and that the Operator is AT%CID?, the language however is correct WWE.

Attached is the output from DeviceData.exe.

When I perform an attempt at using the upgrade tool I get the following:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/files/12367yhfsufhauf.jpg

Next to the Error 100 there is a code, is this of any help? Why has my device settings changed?

Please get back to me!

Kind regards!

Leo

[KTamas]

HI I have some problems during the update. When i run the devicedata.exe on my PPC i get the following

P H 2 0 B W W E AT%CID? 5 . 0 3 . 0 2 1.1.9.106 1.15.00 % 4

Could any one tell me what i'm doing wrong as i'm unsure what "so" value to use when using xda3nbftool.exe

thank you
I think "so" is "AT%CID?".

I too have this problem which seems weird as when I upgraded to WM2005 the device data said my so was o2___001. I tried this but it said it was not for my device.

Screwloose: Any success?
Anyone: Does anyone know why the 'So' has changed?

Kind regards

Leo

I retryed every possible solution, changing the 'so' values to anything from o2___001 to AT%CID? however nothing worked..

The Device Data states that the device is P H 2 0 B with a space after each character which cannot be right, and that the Operator is AT%CID?, the language however is correct WWE.

Attached is the output from DeviceData.exe.

When I perform an attempt at using the upgrade tool I get the following:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/files/12367yhfsufhauf.jpg

Next to the Error 100 there is a code, is this of any help? Why has my device settings changed?

Please get back to me!

Kind regards!

Leo
Have you tried MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe?

[splonker]

Haha, really sorry for my post... made a slight mistake... the source of all my problems is............ I didn't go into bootloader :oops:

After a few hours of reading I gathered that the AT%CID? 'so' setting is simply because we are using unofficial versions of the software. You therefore need to use your previous settings that you used on a previous upgrade. So for instance, my operator setting was o2___001 when I upgraded to WM5 for the first time, so I used that. When I tried this before I got the message I printed before, this was because I hadn't went into bootloader and killed ActiveSync... so make sure you do this!!

At some point I will make the devicedata wiki more informative and include this.

Hope this is of any help to anyone who encounters this

Sorry for my post and thanks for your quick response KTamas!

Leo

[borjok536]

Another thing I noticed, when I install applications, it does not add to REmove Programs, why? Any solution to this?
Yes. Before soft reset, turn off your device for 10-15 secs and/or use a software to do the soft reset.
Ktamas, it doesnt work, maybe there something behind this?

[borjok536]

Regarding the call problem (Call will be disconnected without any reason), Im experiencing it too, maybe Wizards here could find solution and fix it in the next update of the ROM.
On my case, the call will be diconnected after 10 to 20 seconds. I have to repeat it again, I thought it was just a network problem until someone calld me. He calld me several times and asking me why the call is being disconnected. So? this will be a serious problem? I dont want all my calls to be disconnected all the time..

[borjok536]

waah, It seems that I have a lot of problems here.. Sorry, maybe as newbie, I have to...
Is there a way to fix alrm when you receive text message? If the device is turned off, I will never know that I have already an sms message waiting to be read, no alrm (the sms alert tone is not played), not until I turn on the device. even the screen which is supposed to be lightend up, doesnt work. Only the red led indicator is working.
Will SMS alertFix for Himalaya (WM2005) work?.............

[KTamas]

Regarding the dropped call problems: That's surely weird, and I've never, ever experienced a single dropped call on my BA.

[kriengkrai]

How come i can't download this from the link?
ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blueangel/wm5_test/Tuatara_v2a_Custom.zip

Even I already logged in, it showed you don't have permissions.

:evil:

[Madog ap Rhys]

I can't find Excel and Powerpoint, are they in this rom???

[borjok536]

Install the missingfiles.cab included
in the zip file..

[borjok536]

waah, It seems that I have a lot of problems here.. Sorry, maybe as newbie, I have to...
Is there a way to fix alrm when you receive text message? If the device is turned off, I will never know that I have already an sms message waiting to be read, no alrm (the sms alert tone is not played), not until I turn on the device. even the screen which is supposed to be lightend up, doesnt work. Only the red led indicator is working.
Will SMS alertFix for Himalaya (WM2005) work?.............
No solution to this? Anyone?

[BryanAdams]

attached is the solution .
8)
waah, It seems that I have a lot of problems here.. Sorry, maybe as newbie, I have to...
Is there a way to fix alrm when you receive text message? If the device is turned off, I will never know that I have already an sms message waiting to be read, no alrm (the sms alert tone is not played), not until I turn on the device. even the screen which is supposed to be lightend up, doesnt work. Only the red led indicator is working.
Will SMS alertFix for Himalaya (WM2005) work?.............
No solution to this? Anyone?

[omega_]

attached is the solution .
8)
waah, It seems that I have a lot of problems here.. Sorry, maybe as newbie, I have to...
Is there a way to fix alrm when you receive text message? If the device is turned off, I will never know that I have already an sms message waiting to be read, no alrm (the sms alert tone is not played), not until I turn on the device. even the screen which is supposed to be lightend up, doesnt work. Only the red led indicator is working.
Will SMS alertFix for Himalaya (WM2005) work?.............
No solution to this? Anyone?

added to wiki.

[BryanAdams]

Really I am Totally beaten here !
MMS ...is not Working at all.. !

Help Is Needed Here Folks ..


:roll:

[KTamas]

Really I am Totally beaten here !
MMS ...is not Working at all.. !

Help Is Needed Here Folks ..


:roll:
It has been stated in the WiKi that MMS is not working in this ROM. If you want to use MMS, use Wizard v2a.

[BryanAdams]

:re:

I've Noticed that .. but i thought it would be solved by now !

and wizard v2a is awful comparing to this one ... frankly Speaking

Really I am Totally beaten here !
MMS ...is not Working at all.. !

Help Is Needed Here Folks ..


:roll:
It has been stated in the WiKi that MMS is not working in this ROM. If you want to use MMS, use Wizard v2a.

[borjok536]

About that dropped call problem, I dont know..Yes, Its weird..
There is no problem when your d one doing a call, but when someone calls you, thats where the problem starts. My mom called me (overseas calls) and she wondred why the call was beng disconnected. Does anyone here experience this problem? Im about to gve up this WM 5.0.hehhe

[borjok536]

One thing I noticed, when using the Pocket IE, It seems that the d device is inoperable...Browsing using PocketIE makes the device so slow................very very slow.............

[adnanzubairy]

Hi, This is my first post in XDA Dev, I have Pda2k. I upgraded it to wm5 and downgrade back to my original rom many times. and i learn that there are many problems to use wm5 on BA.

WM5 is a great OS but as we know that this is not an official rom for BA devices so it has many issues. I noticed that wm5 is remarkably slow than the original rom. So I finally decided to stay with my original rom as it gives me much better performance. I hope all issues with wm5 rom will be solved in future because I really want to use WM5.

Finally I want to thanks all those people who are working and spending thier time to solve issues of new people like me. I appreciate You Guyz very much to research and help regarding Upgrading BA to wm5. You are really doing a good Job here. Please Keep it up.

Thanks.

[markgamber]

Well, after several tries and eventual failures, I'm afraid I'm going to have to give up on this hack. It's just too flaky and in the same places install after install. The biggest show stopper is that email doesn't get sent. I can hit the send button and it dumps it into the outbox but it never actually goes anywhere. Then there's the issue of speed where it starts out fast enough after flashing but within the day it slows to the point of being practically unusable. Especially when taking it out of the cradle and disconnecting it from activesync. More than a handful of times I've given up on it's recovering and reset the unit. Beyond those two big problems are several minor ones, such as media player not functioning correctly, it's constantly wanting to connect to GPRS when it's already connected to Wifi and the midlet manager not working correctly. And that's not even including WM5 limitations, such as the loss of printing capability and not being able to use MultiIE. Sorry but it's back to 2003se for me with the BA which will probably be shelved for a real WM5 phone as soon as T-Mobile releases their's later this month. I understand that thing is supposed to kick some serious ass. :-)

[mamaich]

Then there's the issue of speed where it starts out fast enough after flashing but within the day it slows to the point of being practically unusable. Especially when taking it out of the cradle and disconnecting it from activesync. The same problem is present in Wizard2BA v2a ROM.

[markgamber]

Yes, I noticed that. The big difference between this and the previous hack is that the problems with this one are consistent across installs. Problems with the v2a hack seemed to differ with every flash so I guess you could say this one is more stable even though it appears to have more problems. What I considered the last straw for me with all these ROMs was the huge length of time between the phone getting a call and the phone indicating there is a call. It was really maddening to call it and watch it draw the notification window border, sit there and catch it's breath, draw the window content, catch it's breath, draw the today screen that wasn't covered....several times, catch it's breath and then finally get around to that first ring. I know you can expand the length of time before voice mail kicks in but that still doesn't help with impatient people like me. If I had more free time and the T-Mobile pda wasn't about to hit the shelves, I'd probably put time into improving the Himalaya hack which I still say was the best of the bunch.

[deepakr]

My observations after a week of use of the Tuatara ROM.
A lot more stable, and responsive to screen taps. Programs/Settings take maybe a fraction of a second longer than the original 2003SE, but that is something I can live with. Bluetooth disconnects after 30 minutes for me, Wi-Fi is OK. The battery life seems a little diminished (as compared to Mamaich's v2a), especially during call times. Not as much while listening to music, which I do a lot. Messaging response is also within tolerable limits. If it were a second slower, I think the delay would have shown. Still not as swift as 2003SE. MMS not there and would love to see a working version of it.
So here come the annoying bits:
Call delay. Other party hears upto two rings on their phone, till it registers in mine..Goes upto 3 rings when the phone is docked. I reckon the ActiveSync/Wm5 combo is still not smooth and somewhere a higher priority is given to sync activity rather than the radio. Also, it seems (conjecture) that the issue is also related to .wav ringtones. A midi ringtone is a lot quicker in coming up as opposed to a wav tone. I think this was pointed out earlier.
Altough my device ActiveSync disconnects immediately on removal from docking station, it sleems sluggish as though it is actively sending some packets and waiting for a response..wonder if this might have to do with TCP/IP Ack/Syn..
Nevertheless, I think this community deserves a huge round of applause for persistence and ingenuity shown by all you developers. I think we have come a long way since the since the first alpha versions of WM5 1433. Thanks Tuatara, Mamaiach, KTamas, Buzz and all of you.

[Madog ap Rhys]

Hy, could you please help me...
I can't intall BA_WM5_FIX it shows me that "....it does not have sufficient system permissions". 1. Is it nessesary to install it at all? 2. If it is - how can I do it?

Thanks.

[half_demon]

please any body can help me I have the erorr 100 :?: :?: :?: :?:

[KTamas]

Hy, could you please help me...
I can't intall BA_WM5_FIX it shows me that "....it does not have sufficient system permissions". 1. Is it nessesary to install it at all? 2. If it is - how can I do it?

Thanks.
You don't have to install this for this ROM at all.

[Madog ap Rhys]

Hy, could you please help me...
I can't intall BA_WM5_FIX it shows me that "....it does not have sufficient system permissions". 1. Is it nessesary to install it at all? 2. If it is - how can I do it?

Thanks.
You don't have to install this for this ROM at all.

Thanks.

[virus247]

for bluetooth problems i think OzBT is the best solution been using it..was suggested by a user in this forum..works like a charm..

[efjay]

I havent tried this rom yet but have applied most of the performance tweaks to mamaich's last wizard port and i find that rom is stable with only a few crashes due to O2 plus version 2 which can slow the device down coming out of standby, with my only problems being notes not syncing (will test with Outlook 2003) and WMP using a lot of memory. I have not had to overclock and speed is only an issue when actively using GPRS or WiFi. Looking forward to the next release of roms from the gurus, thanks again for making this device a true all-round great performer.

[splonker]

please any body can help me I have the erorr 100 :?: :?: :?: :?:

I came across this & posted a message before on this message. In short, you need to make your 'so' not what your current device data says, but what it said before. ie. o2___001 or the t-mobile equivalent. If your unsure, search the forum for list of blueangel models.

Secondly, make sure you have put your phone into the bootloader when your upgrading.

Hope this works

Leo

[eriksurya]

hei ya... I just wondering, what changes had been made to improve the speed in this rom. I am interested to implement it in Hima version. Thanks

[joecartoon22]

everything seems great but i am having an issue with assigning buttons. after a soft reset they go back to default. i assign the record button on my sx66 to record but it never works and is always the voice speed dial option.

[KTamas]

I'm actually back to WM2003SE now, because I'm using GPRS a lot since a while, and WM5 sloooows down way too much in this case. Waiting for the next version....

[nijhof]

this rom works absolutely fine with me. No gprs or wifi problems. Call's get send through right away, no waiting time. The only thing is the known bluetooth prob and ofcourse it's a bit slower than 2003SE which get's a bit annoying with text messages.

by the way, virus, does this ozbt have any influence on bluetooth turning of on standby?

[kenjichui]

in WIKI it says "Wizard's battery indicator, Device Lock, Screen Rotate, PSShutXP on the today screen "


why i cannt see any of these??

[zedino]

i followed steps in guide, using computers for almost 20 years, and understand all the steps in guide, but
after changing nk.nba using xda3nbftool i 'v got ERROR 102: CE IMAGE FILE CHECKSUM ERROR

what is wrong pls pls

oh for upgrade i used Ma***noID and BA*** upgrade file but Ba** said there is error and MA said that device was upgraded but in cca 30 seconds and nothing happened on MDA III screen still in USB 2.06 Bootloader menu

thanx

[zedino]

ok i solved the prob by myself, now i have WM5 on my BA, but, shere is my xBackup in WM5???? i need to restore backup from 2003SE!!!

[csian]

virus247:
for bluetooth problems i think OzBT is the best solution been using it..was suggested by a user in this forum..works like a charm..

8) Just started to use ozBT (http://oz.sciox.org/ozbt.html#download) but seems to keep BT on and connected to my cheapo BT headset while device SX66 is powered off. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

[screwloose]

I have updated my BA now witht he help of KTamas. I used MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe to upgrade my BA. This rom works great. the fastes one yet and no problems i have come accross yet.

Keep up the good work guys.

[KTamas]

To mamaich: What driver is used for the screen (Drawing the GUI etc.)? Also, are there any other way to edit the priority of something than the Priority256 key?

[gnatto]

Some problem I have:
- sometimes, every 5-6 days, my temp disk goes full... I just delete all files I see over there and everything good again... Is it ok? I noticed that when temp disk is full media player is not working at all...

- I did not have the bt problem... How Is it possible? Perhaps I did not understand the prob...:wink:

- When the battery will go out, where in the world all the stuff I have on my device will be saved? Silly question? :oops:

Thank you Very much :D

Gnatto

[KTamas]

Some problem I have:
- sometimes, every 5-6 days, my temp disk goes full... I just delete all files I see over there and everything good again... Is it ok? I noticed that when temp disk is full media player is not working at all...

- I did not have the bt problem... How Is it possible? Perhaps I did not understand the prob...:wink:

- When the battery will go out, where in the world all the stuff I have on my device will be saved? Silly question? :oops:

Thank you Very much :D

Gnatto
If the battery goes out, every data you have stays, you won't lose anything, except the data you have in the Temp Disk.

[KTamas]

Aaaaah what the heck, I'm playing with WM5 again. Replaced some of the wm5 drivers with ones from wm2003se. WiFi works (I don't have a wifi router so I can't really test anything else, but it turns on), Keyboard works and seems to be perfect (I need to do more testing though), WM2003SE's rilgsm.dll makes the phone part dead though, which is too bad because I think this is the source of the GPRS slowdown.

[SysCrasher13]

To KTamas:
I have noticed that when I use the device with Flght Mode On, in other words with the phone off, it works perfect, there is no keyboard issues, no MediaPlayer issues no GUI refresh issues, it works perfect. do you think that maybe we should start playing around with the phone part of the system? or do something to it? like use the 2003 drivers or somehow integrate them or something?

has anyone else experieced this?

- C

[a771la]

can you upload any version of wmpocx.dll (it is in windows folder) :D
i need it for resolve a bug of mediaplayer 8)

[KTamas]

To KTamas:
I have noticed that when I use the device with Flght Mode On, in other words with the phone off, it works perfect, there is no keyboard issues, no MediaPlayer issues no GUI refresh issues, it works perfect. do you think that maybe we should start playing around with the phone part of the system? or do something to it? like use the 2003 drivers or somehow integrate them or something?

has anyone else experieced this?

- C
Interesting point and I've noticed that the phone part is probably the main source of the slowdowns. The problem is that at the moment I can't do anything with the phone part. I've tried to replace the driver with the WM2003SE drivers and that didn't work and I have no other ideas so far. Next week i'll be busy and i won't really have time to play with ROMs (I'M back to WM2003SE for now), so it's up to Mamaich and Tuatara for now, hope they can find something.

One thing that just came into my mind is that someone could try is to try the new Himalaya WM5 ROM's phone driver (rilgsm.dll, this file is for sure, maybe other dlls are related to phone too) and see if that works. I don't know about WM5's speed under Himalaya though.

[mamaich]

To mamaich: What driver is used for the screen (Drawing the GUI etc.)?2 drivers - ddi_d3d.dll from Himalaya ROM for Direct3D support, and patched ace_ddi.dll from WM2003SE ROM (I've patched the version check).
Also, are there any other way to edit the priority of something than the Priority256 key?There may be some driver-specific keys

[mamaich]

Aaaaah what the heck, I'm playing with WM5 again. Replaced some of the wm5 drivers with ones from wm2003se. WiFi works (I don't have a wifi router so I can't really test anything else, but it turns on), Keyboard works and seems to be perfect (I need to do more testing though), WM2003SE's rilgsm.dll makes the phone part dead though, which is too bad because I think this is the source of the GPRS slowdown.I've already played with 2003SE drivers. Most of drivers in cooked ROMs are from 2003SE, and I've also played with ril dlls, with the same result.
Currently I don't have time, but porting the latest himalaya ROM is in my plans.

[pinhead]

I haven't seen anyone mention this, but I have noticed that when I am typing a message, regardless of whether it is an email or a text message, the keyboard legs and missed letters. However, this does not seem to happen in any other program. It is isolated to within the messaging application (pocket Inbox/Outlook).

Is there something I need to do to speed it up here?

Also, messages open VERY slowly for me. It takes about 7-10 seconds to open each and every message.

[KTamas]

Currently I don't have time, but porting the latest himalaya ROM is in my plans.
Sounds good, can't wait :)

[efjay]

Currently I don't have time, but porting the latest himalaya ROM is in my plans.

Great news, looking forward to it as well.

[isk2005]

hey guys nice work regd wm5.0 .
i shifted back to my org wm 2003se [cause of the ringing delay] .can u tell me the name or where can i download that voice dial software being used in this ROM .

thanks for ur help in advance.

keep up the good work :D

[netsee]

hmm.. it seems that internet explorer is loading very slow as compare to 2003 (i am using wifi). Is ther a tweak out there?

I might have to downgrade bcos it's loading time is just too long...

any thoughts?

thax

[Uziel]

Ok i have a problem.
well not with the updates as sutch.
but i was messing around with it and i love it btw. I coped all my contacts from my sim to my BA, and cause i had a lot of double ups i deleted all the contacts from the sim card. did a clean up in my contacts but now cant copy them back to the sim?
and i a n00b and cant figure it out? yes i think so, and i thought i was doing well with the editfix dat and all it went like a charm good instructions but this is annoying me cause if i have to do a hard reset i lose all my contacts.

Please help.lol

[d3vil]

Aaaaah what the heck, I'm playing with WM5 again. Replaced some of the wm5 drivers with ones from wm2003se. WiFi works (I don't have a wifi router so I can't really test anything else, but it turns on), Keyboard works and seems to be perfect (I need to do more testing though), WM2003SE's rilgsm.dll makes the phone part dead though, which is too bad because I think this is the source of the GPRS slowdown.

By keyboard working properly, do u mean no lag in the messaging application? If so, which driver did u replace?

[schander]

Hi all,

I have just upgraded my phone to the TuMa rom and everything works fine and quick :), with the execption of the phone :( .
When I dial a call it immeadatly hangs up, then when I dial the number again (pressing talk) it dials but takes about 10-20secs for it to finish dialing and then hangs up after a minute,well that what the call timer says.

Has anyone else had this problem??
I had this problem with Version 2a port aswell, but never with the old 3.1 version.

Thanks
satpal

[cescof]

It's a great porting but it's impossibile use stk service (dual sim important for me) any hopes for future?
Regards

[cescof]

It's a great porting but it's impossibile use stk service (dual sim important for me) any hopes for future?
Regards

[alexanderjp]

Hi all,

I have just upgraded my phone to the TuMa rom and everything works fine and quick :), with the execption of the phone :( .
When I dial a call it immeadatly hangs up, then when I dial the number again (pressing talk) it dials but takes about 10-20secs for it to finish dialing and then hangs up after a minute,well that what the call timer says.

Has anyone else had this problem??
I had this problem with Version 2a port aswell, but never with the old 3.1 version.

Thanks
satpal

I have the same problem The phone is very slow and some times answering a call produces a lot of static and poor connection or disconnects the caller. If I call out the connection is fine.

Is this a known issue?

[sunnyd24]

Hey all users,
Thanks mamaich, Tuatara, Ktmas masters of this, and all others involved in making this possible!
I upgraded to WM5 (v2a) 3 weeks ago and loved it. Great at looks, a bit sluggish though. Although sluggishness it was a great release, Most things worked, with ease. I then upgraded to (v1 Tumas) supposedly better but not what I think. Fast at first, then 1 week later very sluggish worse that v2a, Didn't boot up a couple of times and locked up on Startup items, like shutxp and screen rotation. Finally got it running, but afraid to soft reset it now! It maybe time to downgrade to WM2003SE, unless another version comes available. The drivers from WM2003 copied over to WM5 sounds good, and may solve some problems, but there are too many bugs for a fix that way.
For a few more days I'll stick with WM5 and then down to 2003SE soon.
Thanks again to everyone.

Regards,
Sunny

p.s. Also a bug with the Close (X) program with Spb Pocket Plus and WM5, although it should work it doesn't for me. It is a great feature and kills Apps instantly after use rather than minimize that WM5 alone does.

[exstatica]

Here are the fixes, First one to remove the roaming icon, the second to fix mms so the folder shows up.

[al_3sjad]

Hi dear ,
I try to install both cab file but still the MMS not available

[Tuatara]

Hi Everyone,

I'm back from my vacation now, and will be working on the issues which have been raised in the forum. I'm aware of the MMS issue, and I did forget to add in a CAB file with the missing ATL, and MFC library DLL's which I'd removed (arrrgh!), since there appear to be updated versions now. I thought that these files are probably best not stored in ROM, which makes more space for other more "important" items to be added instead. These were things I'd accidentally done in my haste to get a ROM together before I left.

I wasn't expecting the kind of response to this release as has happened, I thought only some ROM 'hackers' might look at it. But since it appears to be quite usable, I'm going to try and get the ROM caught up to expectations ASAP!

Most (if not all) of the work on this ROM was done by mamaich, and the only parts I've changed have been file, application and registry based for performance, JVM operation and usability. The xxxx.RGU files which I'd included in the ZIP archive are the core pieces of the changes I'd made.

I have decomposed a number of different ROMs (including the Himalaya Port, the latest Himalaya from Buzzdev, and recent Wizard and Atom ROMs), and will be experimenting with using XScale compiled applications/code instead of OMAP compiled elements, and see if this will improve the performance and reliability of the ROM.

I'll also incorporate all the other fixes which have been made over this time too! Naturally all this will take some time, but I hope to have something available for Monday.

Back to "real-life" work for now ...

Regards,
Tuatara.

[kriengkrai]

Huley!!!
u r back...

[Uziel]

Tuatara.
It looks like your Close to my part of the world can i Pm you?
Please about your device shipped rom.

[Tuatara]

Tuatara.
It looks like your Close to my part of the world can i Pm you?
Please about your device shipped rom.

Sure thing ... already sent you a PM too as a reply.

Not sure about what you mean by a 'Device Shipped ROM' ... I've been using WM5 on my devices since I got them!

... well, ok ... not on the Wallaby ... yet. ;-)

[KTamas]

Welcome back, Tuatara. If you need someone who can hard reset his device almost anytime, just ask me? i can betatest your ROMs if you want ;)

The very first thing I'd like to get fixed is the notifications. They are just unacceptably slow, it drives me nuts. Anything else works fairly well, even GPRS since I'm back pretty much to PIE instead of Opera. But those notifications....tooo slow, way tooo slow, I just don't really use MSN messenger for now, cause a notification comes in and the device hangs for like 3-4 secs, and that is too much.

[Tuatara]

Welcome back, Tuatara. If you need someone who can hard reset his device almost anytime, just ask me? i can betatest your ROMs if you want ;)

Ok ... I'm working on one now which will merge some XScale compiled elements from other ROMs, and implement the bug fixes as listed in the thread. This should hopefully speed up some things further, and make them more stable (not OMAP code). I hopefully will have something operational later in the day ... you'll be the first to know for a beta test. :-D

The very first thing I'd like to get fixed is the notifications. They are just unacceptably slow, it drives me nuts. Anything else works fairly well, even GPRS since I'm back pretty much to PIE instead of Opera. But those notifications....tooo slow, way tooo slow, I just don't really use MSN messenger for now, cause a notification comes in and the device hangs for like 3-4 secs, and that is too much.

Hmmm ... I'm not sure what could be causing that. I don't seem to experience that, but I'll check into what that could be. Similarly I don't have the disconnect issue (hang-up), but I'll see if I can find anything with respect to that as well.

Back to ROM building ... 8)

[odie3]

Gee, can you fix the Bluetooth issue?

[kriengkrai]

For me, almost everything works fine with this rom. I overclocked my phnoe to be 530 MHz with XCPUScalar without trouble. The only two problems I faced right now are Bluetooth disconnection and Phone ringing delay which annoying me so much.

If these 2 problems solved, it will be perfect for me. :D

ATTN : Virus247, I tried to use oxBT , it solved the disconnection of BT but the device keep turning on all the time. This drained up my batteries so much. If i set it default to turn off and turn on only specific application ,such as phone, Then, when the call comes, it will take so much time to pick up the phone by BT. Please advice how i can set up ozBT. I 've tried serveral ways. Still, cannot find the perfect way to be usable. :twisted:

[virus247]

For me, almost everything works fine with this rom. I overclocked my phnoe to be 530 MHz with XCPUScalar without trouble. The only two problems I faced right now are Bluetooth disconnection and Phone ringing delay which annoying me so much.

If these 2 problems solved, it will be perfect for me. :D

ATTN : Virus247, I tried to use oxBT , it solved the disconnection of BT but the device keep turning on all the time. This drained up my batteries so much. If i set it default to turn off and turn on only specific application ,such as phone, Then, when the call comes, it will take so much time to pick up the phone by BT. Please advice how i can set up ozBT. I 've tried serveral ways. Still, cannot find the perfect way to be usable. :twisted:

yes..there is a 3-5 second delay in the bt takin the call to the headset..the only choice is to pick the phone up a bit late..u cant expect much from a workaround..
these are the settings:

1. Under "If window is Active:", add in "Desktop"

2. Under "If window is Running(full caption) :", add in "Desktop"

3. Set "Unlisted caption:" to "Turn On"

2. Set "Wireless control:" to "Microsoft (SDK)"

Click "OK" and that will do it.

[KTamas]

Hmmm ... I'm not sure what could be causing that. I don't seem to experience that, but I'll check into what that could be. Similarly I don't have the disconnect issue (hang-up), but I'll see if I can find anything with respect to that as well.

Back to ROM building ... 8)
I don't have the phone disconnect bug either, but the new, WM5-style notifications are slow as hell for me.

[kriengkrai]

[yes..there is a 3-5 second delay in the bt takin the call to the headset..the only choice is to pick the phone up a bit late..u cant expect much from a workaround..
these are the settings:

1. Under "If window is Active:", add in "Desktop"

2. Under "If window is Running(full caption) :", add in "Desktop"

3. Set "Unlisted caption:" to "Turn On"

2. Set "Wireless control:" to "Microsoft (SDK)"

Click "OK" and that will do it.

Thanks .. :D

[jamex]

Hi All,

here is my DeviceData.txt and make me confusing

PH20BWWEAT%CID?
5.03.02 1.15.00%4

so what is my cell phone provider's code
and my local is macau, what can i do?

[kriengkrai]

Hi All,

here is my DeviceData.txt and make me confusing

PH20BWWEAT%CID?5.03.02 1.15.00%4

so what is my cell phone provider's code
and my local is macau, what can i do?

Same as me. I used No-ID upgrader. (Sorry can't remeber the program name.)
No need to use xda3nbftool.exe.

[splonker]

Hi All,

here is my DeviceData.txt and make me confusing

PH20BWWEAT%CID?5.03.02 1.15.00%4

so what is my cell phone provider's code
and my local is macau, what can i do?

I've posted about this already in the post. You are getting this because you are using an operating system which is not meant for the XDAIIs, ie. not o2.

If you know what your provider code was before you upgraded then use that, if not you will need to check this list (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15510&highlight=operator+model+list) to find your model and provider.

Hope this helps

Leo

[Tuatara]

Hi Guys,

Well this weekend was spent living in WM5 ROMs (to the detriment of sleep, and family - *sigh*).

I've integrated all the fixes which have been listed in the forum, and have added a few other useful (small) things to the ROM. This like modifying it so that the Voice Dial can be disabled simply by changing the button assignment and (optionally) deleting the sddaemon link from the startup. Utility functions to control everything using New Menu or similar (if you wish), etc. However, I'm not quite ready to put another version out as yet. I have another task in the works ...

I've been "upgrading" a number of the OMAP compiled code portions from the Wizard with newer or same versions of XScale compiled parts from other ROMs (Jasjar, Himalaya, etc.) and have again achieved some performance improvements. But by upgrading not just the code, but also versions, I have also run into some "neat" new problems. Good news so far though - not a single dead ROM built! :lol: ... must have luck on my side!

But, since I don't want to have everyone trying this new (alpha) version I know to have flaws, I need some more time for it to be 'robust' enough to (beta) test. 8)

Update again in a day or two ...

[KTamas]

Hi Guys,

Well this weekend was spent living in WM5 ROMs (to the detriment of sleep, and family - *sigh*).

I've integrated all the fixes which have been listed in the forum, and have added a few other useful (small) things to the ROM. This like modifying it so that the Voice Dial can be disabled simply by changing the button assignment and (optionally) deleting the sddaemon link from the startup. Utility functions to control everything using New Menu or similar (if you wish), etc. However, I'm not quite ready to put another version out as yet. I have another task in the works ...

I've been "upgrading" a number of the OMAP compiled code portions from the Wizard with newer or same versions of XScale compiled parts from other ROMs (Jasjar, Himalaya, etc.) and have again achieved some performance improvements. But by upgrading not just the code, but also versions, I have also run into some "neat" new problems. Good news so far though - not a single dead ROM built! :lol: ... must have luck on my side!

But, since I don't want to have everyone trying this new (alpha) version I know to have flaws, I need some more time for it to be 'robust' enough to (beta) test. 8)

Update again in a day or two ...
Could you achieve any speedup in the notification system?

(Also, do you use any messenger applications (MSN/ICQ/AIM/YAHOO/SKYPE)?

[Tuatara]

Update again in a day or two ...
Could you achieve any speedup in the notification system?

(Also, do you use any messenger applications (MSN/ICQ/AIM/YAHOO/SKYPE)?

I haven't directly looked into notification speed-up performance (that's what beta testers are for :D), but I may be on track to find something which could be hindering it. My belief is that the largest problem is in the audio layer, and something blocking/pending/waiting when there is a WAV (or other audio) file to play. Still searching ...

I do use MSN and SKYPE (primarily for work) on my desktop, and use Agile Messenger (MSN) and SKYPE on WM5 - but only when I need it active.

[KTamas]

Update again in a day or two ...
Could you achieve any speedup in the notification system?

(Also, do you use any messenger applications (MSN/ICQ/AIM/YAHOO/SKYPE)?

I haven't directly looked into notification speed-up performance (that's what beta testers are for :D), but I may be on track to find something which could be hindering it. My belief is that the largest problem is in the audio layer, and something blocking/pending/waiting when there is a WAV (or other audio) file to play. Still searching ...

I do use MSN and SKYPE (primarily for work) on my desktop, and use Agile Messenger (MSN) and SKYPE on WM5 - but only when I need it active.
Well, i don't get any sounds when i get a notification. I think i disabled it at sound options, first page, first checkbox is unchecked.

[deepakr]

I haven't directly looked into notification speed-up performance (that's what beta testers are for :D), but I may be on track to find something which could be hindering it. My belief is that the largest problem is in the audio layer, and something blocking/pending/waiting when there is a WAV (or other audio) file to play. Still searching ...


This is seems like the case. KTamas, try to put phone in vibration mode and then check for delay in call..it is almost instant response.. has to do somethign with the way the wav file associated with ringer is called

[deepakr]

I haven't directly looked into notification speed-up performance (that's what beta testers are for :D), but I may be on track to find something which could be hindering it. My belief is that the largest problem is in the audio layer, and something blocking/pending/waiting when there is a WAV (or other audio) file to play. Still searching ...


This is seems like the case. KTamas, try to put phone in vibration mode and then check for delay in call..it is almost instant response.. has to do somethign with the way the wav file associated with ringer is called

[kriengkrai]

This is seems like the case. KTamas, try to put phone in vibration mode and then check for delay in call..it is almost instant response.. has to do somethign with the way the wav file associated with ringer is called

I tried to diable all sound and used vibration instead. Seem like it's a lot better response when pick up incoming call. I agree with deepakr.

Still my bluetooth headset not perfectly used with ozBT.
waiting for you guys.

:oops:

[Tuatara]

This is seems like the case. KTamas, try to put phone in vibration mode and then check for delay in call..it is almost instant response.. has to do somethign with the way the wav file associated with ringer is called

I tried to diable all sound and used vibration instead. Seem like it's a lot better response when pick up incoming call. I agree with deepakr.

Still my bluetooth headset not perfectly used with ozBT.
waiting for you guys.

Ok ... I think then I'm on the right track. I'm hunting through things, but I have not had much luck for this version as yet.

For the BT issue, mamaich has suggested that I look into integrating the Widcomm stack (available on buzzdev) which is working under WM5 and appears to not have the disconnect issue, but unfortunately it has a broken headset profile.

*** SO ***

I need to know which brand of BT headset and BT earpiece I should purchase (I have none right now). I want something GOOD, reliable on most devices (BT enabled laptops, etc.) and am looking for the forum's recommendations on this. PM me with suggestions and/or put it in the forum as recommendations for everyone.

Cheers!

[KTamas]

I'm not talking only about the phone notifaction. I was talking about the notifcations that MSN messenger gives me etc. But I'll try this.

[KTamas]

Also, the messaging slowness at startup is caused by MMS. I've found this out when i didn't install missing files. If i don't install it, messaging opens instantly.

[jamex]

Hi! All,

when i sync with my desktop, it always reboot, so now i can't do wverything, what's going on? help!!!

[splonker]

Hi! All,

when i sync with my desktop, it always reboot, so now i can't do wverything, what's going on? help!!!

Hmm... your desktop reboots? Whats it like when another peripheral uses the same port?

Leo

[efjay]

For the BT issue, mamaich has suggested that I look into integrating the Widcomm stack (available on buzzdev) which is working under WM5 and appears to not have the disconnect issue, but unfortunately it has a broken headset profile.

If you use the widcomm stack you lose the ability to do bluetooth voicedialling, right? AFAIK the widcomm stack cant do that.

[KTamas]

I don't use a BT headset so you have my vote on the Widcomm bluetooth.

[odie3]

For the BT issue, mamaich has suggested that I look into integrating the Widcomm stack (available on buzzdev) which is working under WM5 and appears to not have the disconnect issue, but unfortunately it has a broken headset profile.

If you use the widcomm stack you lose the ability to do bluetooth voicedialling, right? AFAIK the widcomm stack cant do that.

Well, BT Voice Dialing was not 100% anyways. All I got it to do is pick the mic up. I never was able to get the command to go through the BT Mic [or hear the responce in the BT Headset].

So, I rather have BT Headset that works all the time then a not even 50% working BT Voice Dialing.

[cescof]

You're right..... but a working BT Voice Dialing could be really fantastic.
We know that our BA is'quite bulky and large so it could be a great help , use always bt headset and start calls with it.
It's really so impossibile to sove this great problem???
and again what about stk tools?
Regards

[KTamas]

I don't know about you guys, but STK works well for me...

[efjay]

For the BT issue, mamaich has suggested that I look into integrating the Widcomm stack (available on buzzdev) which is working under WM5 and appears to not have the disconnect issue, but unfortunately it has a broken headset profile.

If you use the widcomm stack you lose the ability to do bluetooth voicedialling, right? AFAIK the widcomm stack cant do that.

Well, BT Voice Dialing was not 100% anyways. All I got it to do is pick the mic up. I never was able to get the command to go through the BT Mic [or hear the responce in the BT Headset].

So, I rather have BT Headset that works all the time then a not even 50% working BT Voice Dialing.

AFAIK voice dialling works fine with Cyberon's voice dialler. Previously with WM2003SE on the Eten M500 and now with WM5 on the Wizard. It was one of the most requested features when running the Widcomm stack on WM2003SE and so far this feature has still not appeared. I too would like working bluetooth but voice dialling is something i have wanted for a while. Without it your BT headset is effectively only working at 50% of its capability; most headsets are able to initiate voice dialling with a single button press as well as answering incoming calls. Combined with a Jabra BT800 you get excellent hands-free dialling abilities.

I understand your point about getting a working bt stack but voice dialling is one of the things WM5 offers and i would hate to lose that functionality. The fact is we are running a hacked OS and I fully appreciate that any extra functionality we get out of it is definitely a bonus. I was just giving my .02$, however it turns out is ok. I know these guys are working really hard to give us a working rom and thank them for their efforts.

[odie3]

I do not disagree with your POV but I do not use Cyberon's voice dialler I use MS Voice - since you do not have to teach it anything. But with the WM5 ROM I am using now BT will not even stay on if I leave it plug in to a power source [which is what I always do while driving].

Heck, IMO Voice Dialing with MS Voice should have been a default in WM2003 and since it was not, it should have been added in WM5! But if it means going to Wincomm until MS BT is corrected that is fine by me. Rather have something working all the time now while MS BT is figured out in WM5.

[cescof]

most headsets are able to initiate voice dialling with a single button press as well as answering incoming calls. Combined with a Jabra BT800 you get excellent hands-free dialling abilities. ....

So you say you're able to make a cal with yuor jabra without press any command on your Ba?

With my hbh 800 it's impossibile....
Which's the difference?

[mda_adam]

Update: Turns out it was a local GPRS outage! The ROM works great.

Since upgrading to this ROM, my GPRS no longer seems to work.

The phone connects to GPRS without any issues, but then can't seem to transfer any data. For example, IE sits at the "Locating..." prompt. Other apps can't use the connection either.

I also tried upgrading my radio from 1.08.00 to 1.15.00 - no luck fixing the GPRS issue.

Has anyone seen similar issues either with this ROM or with some other ROM in the past? I've tried tweaking everything I can think of, and am about to resort to downgrading back to a different ROM.

Device info:

T-Mobile MDA III
ROM version: 5.03.02 WWE
ROM date: 03/02/05
Radio version: 1.15.00
Protocol version: 1337.45
ExtROM version: BAWIZ3.TM

Thanks for all your help!

[Tuatara]

Hi Everyone ...

I'm working on the TuMa v1.1 (Tuatara / Maimach) ROM, and it's coming along quite well. I believe the performance is again improved, and I also believe I've fixed a number of recognised problems - but only testing will tell!

I've therefore decided to go for "public beta" rather than "private alpha" testing ... and will upload it for anyone who wants to try out the updates I've added into the ROM.

I'm presently ensuring that the core elements in mamaich's MissingFiles.CAB (i.e. Pocket Excel, Pocket Powerpoint, etc.) are actually contained in the ROM, and not in an external CAB. So I'm removing "lesser" core elements (like Midlet Manager, Camera, and MMS) and putting these into external installers.

Before you scream ... I'm building up CABs with these items, along with corrected registry changes in the installers, so that everyone can better choose what they wish to install.

For example, those without a Camera in their phone can use the ROM directly, and others with a Camera, can install the Camera.CAB file with everything auto-congfigured. Don't use MMS ... then don't install it. 8)

Also, small 'annoyances' are now easy to remove - anything you don't want enabled/run at startup, just remove the link from the "Startup" folder, and it's gone. The applications are in the ROM space (32Mb), so these apps aren't using any of the precious Storage anyways. I believe that this should hopefully keep the ROM minimalists, the 'pack it full of toys', and everyone inbetween happy.

Anyways ... I do wish to add a few "utilities" to the ROM - one of those being the dopod SMS Backup. It's simple, easy to use, and does the job. Gives a basic backup of SMS, and in combination with ActiveSync can backup all of the "core" data from a phone very easily.

So I ask ... can someone who speaks Chinese translate for me the screens and dialogs in this application? If this is possible in the next few hours, I'll incorporate it into the ROM. :-) Send me the translation in a PM please, and I'll modify the resources.

Anyways ... I'll keep you posted for the v1.1 release ... with luck, it'll still be tonight!

[efjay]

Sounds good Tuatara. The "optional" nature of components should work well. Look forward to the release. Thanks again.

[odie3]

Yes! Thank god the Camra is optional now!!! No more slow down on my SX66 until I can get the no-camra fix installed!

Your post sounds really great!!!!

[KTamas]

Sounds cool, can't wait to flash it ;)

[splonker]

Sounds very interesting - I don't suppose you have fixed/reduced the notification problem?

Also, I did a wee search and weren't sure if you had seen that toenailed had translated some things into English purely by working it out dependant on the results I imagine. Take a look here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18919&highlight=). Sorry, I couldn't check if the version you had was this altered one.

Leo

[joecartoon22]

were you able to fix the phone lag from when the call is coming through to when it actually rings. that would be soooo nice

[Tuatara]

Sounds very interesting - I don't suppose you have fixed/reduced the notification problem?

Also, I did a wee search and weren't sure if you had seen that toenailed had translated some things into English purely by working it out dependant on the results I imagine. Take a look here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18919&highlight=). Sorry, I couldn't check if the version you had was this altered one.

Leo

I've seen toenailed's partial translation, and that's the main reason I'd like to get a full translation done. It's a useful tool, and I'd love to integrate it into the (next) ROM when I can.

Hopefully the notification problem is a bit better in this version (at least I hope so). Not sure though ... only testing will tell.

[Tuatara]

were you able to fix the phone lag from when the call is coming through to when it actually rings. that would be soooo nice

I'm finding that using a WAV file instead of WMA, MID, or other type of file appears to give a better response time in the new TuMa v1.1 ROM I've just put out.

More experimentation will be required for this though ... so we'll have to see what the feedback is ...

[Fredrick_Fredrickson]

The new ROM is great!
Much faster, and stable too(well, as much as you can tell in 2 hours use)
Some nice utilities. No problems found so far.

Thanks Tuatara, you're not such an old lizard as your name would suggest!

[paullim29]

First of all, this ROM is filled with many great stuffs & performs much faster!!! Thanks! ;)

Not sure if anyone has this... The top of the screen seems to covered by 1 px of blue & black line.

Btw, when flashing this 1.1 ROM, do we need to include those "boot.rgu", "default.rgu", etc from version 1.0 into the folder? By not doing so, all my installed applications are still there after the upgrade.

[Tuatara]

The new ROM is great!
Much faster, and stable too(well, as much as you can tell in 2 hours use)
Some nice utilities. No problems found so far.

Thanks Tuatara, you're not such an old lizard as your name would suggest!

Thanks ... but I'd strongly suggest upgrading to v1.2 now for sure ... bugs fixed, problems addressed, features added, and more robust.

And well ... I might just be an old lizard ... been a 'hacker' for many, many years now ... 8)

[Tuatara]

First of all, this ROM is filled with many great stuffs & performs much faster!!! Thanks! ;)

Check out the TuMa v1.2 (*ahem* v1.3) ROM now ... fixes the bugs found to date.

Not sure if