SOLVED!!! - 3 Ring Delay before Ringtone & Volume Fixed!

[Tuatara]

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Windows Mobile 5 - Ringing Delay Patch
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This CAB File will correct the very annoying, but very common problem of the 3 second Ringing Delay for Windows Mobile Phones.

Now updated to use NORMAL, LOUDER, and INSANELY LOUD source WAV files to make sure you hear the RINGS !!!

Now updated to force the Ring Volume to the Maximum Level (needs additional manual help) !!!

You will now have your phone RING just after or maybe even WITHIN THE FIRST RING the caller hears, and with some help from you, the Ring Volume will be as LOUD as POSSIBLE for your device.

There is only ONE caveat in using this CAB file and your phone ...

In order to benefit from the (nearly) instant ringing time, you will NEED to convert ANY and ALL Ringtones you want to use into WAV format. Using ANY other format will re-introduce the 3 second/rings delay.

This CAB contains the default Rings converted to WAV files, and 'corrects' a number of registry entries so that these rings are directly available.

By default, your default Ring will be changed to "OldPhone". Test it first using this setting, and then feel free to change it to any other WAV file.

NOTE: There are TWO versions of the CAB file I've created:

1). Contains only the required registry changes for WAV playback improvements, and leaves the device power management intact. [ WM5_RingDelay_Patch.cab ]

2). Contains additional Power Management entries to keep the WAV device in a low-power, but not 'disabled' state for fast wakeup. This may use more battery power, but will ensure fast playback. [ WM5_RingDelay_Patch_PM.cab ]

This CAB WILL now work for people having problems on all WM5 devices "out of the box", and you can OPTIONALLY change your volumes to maximum yourself.
(Blue Angel, Universal, Wizard, Exec, Atom, etc.)

NOTE: You will NEED to soft-reset your device in order for the registry changes to take effect!

Remember ... you MUST use a WAV file as your Ringtone!

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How to set your device to have the ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM Ring Tone Volume !!!

I have (now) learned the HARD WAY, that there are an infinite number of ways even the same manufacturer like HTC can make every single phone different. This is especially true even if on all the HTC phones I own, the settings are all identical, other models WILL be different!

This revised post is now my way of apologising for the problematic release of the previous patch, and to provide even more benefit to all devices. I'm very sorry for anyone who has Hard-Reset their device in the meantime to recover from this. Here is the FIX!

To set the audio layer to the loudest possible value for Rings (and/or to fix things from the earlier CABs I released), you will need to MANUALLY set the Attenuation preset to the one which has the LOUDEST possible volume setting on your phone. To determine this, you will need to search through the Registry and find the appropriate preset corresponding to the Attenuation category, and then you will need to set some registry entries appropriately.

I had forced the AttenuationCategory to what I thought was the correct value, but this appears to cause problems on other devices. So sorry!!!

*** When you've found out all the details, please POST your findings along with your device make/model in the forum for others to use.

STEP 1:

First you will need to go to the following key in the Registry:
(NOTE: The actual value in the key may be different depending on your model.)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\AUDIOGAIN]
"SPEAKER_UPLINK_VOLUME"=hex:10

Remember the value you have in this key ... But DO NOT CHANGE IT!!!

You will then see a number of entries following, which have "AUDIOGAIN0", "AUDIOGAIN1", "AUDIOGAIN2", etc.

You now need to find the ""AUDIOGAIN#" which has the HIGHEST or a DIFFERENT value for "SPEAKER_UPLINK_VOLUME".
This is a BINARY value, so I can only presume it is for bit-setting of amplifier gains within the device.

*** For my Blue Angel this value is located in the subkey "AUDIOGAIN2".
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\AUDIOGAIN2]
"SPEAKER_UPLINK_VOLUME"=hex:19

Now, this may (or will) be different and probably different hardware so these keys may or may not exist.

DON'T WORRY - We still can FIX everything even without this information!
If you do have the time, please find the corresponding reference elements for your device, and post the information here for everyone.

STEP 2:

Now you need to go to the corresponding USER level Attenuation setting, and change that one appropriately to maximum!

In my example case above - this would require me to first use setting "2" for Maximum Volume (i.e. the Ringer).
Also, now that I know Attenuation setting #2 is the loudest, I will change this to be the maximum volume of "5".

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\At tenuation]
"0"=dword:0
"1"=dword:1
"2"=dword:5

Here is where you can CHANGE things, even if you DON'T know the right Attenuation setting to modify from the above information.

If you change them ALL to the maximum value of "5", you have just increased the gain levels for ALL possible settings (Ring, Phone, InCall, Notify, etc.). This will only result in larger steps in your volume when you change it. (i.e. a HIGHER Maximum Volume - but still only 5 steps, and MUTE).

Now also, remember how MANY Attenuation Categories you have ... this is useful if you have to 'GUESS' which one to use for the next step.

STEP 3:

Go into the Sound Category which you want to modify. In our case with Ring Tones, these two entries are aptly named:

For the Ring:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ri ng]
"AttenuationCategory"=dword:2
"InitVol"=dword:5

For the Ring Preview:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ri ngPreview]
"AttenuationCategory"=dword:1
"InitVol"=dword:5

There are various other entries available for "Feedback", "InCall", and also "VoiceCommand1" (*** Yes you can make EVERYTHING LOUD!)

The entries you will need to modify are "AttenuationCategory" and "InitVol".
Always set "InitVol" to be 5 (maximum), and set "AttenuationCategory" to be the value you determined above.

In case you DON'T know the value from the above, you will need to try them all. My GUT feeling is that the HIGHEST "AttenuationCategory" will be the loudest. Most people when specifying things in hardware will probably do it that way, but you should probably try them all to find the best one.

The good news is that a soft-reset is NOT required to go through and test them all. Simply change the setting, wait a moment, and call your phone. You will then hear the volume level of the ring appropriately. Go through them all and find the LOUDEST one to use. That's your "AttenuationCategory" number.

NOTE: By default the "RingPreview" is using a STANDARD "AttenuationCategory", not the RINGER "AttenuationCategory". You can change this to your liking as well, and you can change any and ALL of your other "AttenuationCategory" and "InitVol" settings too.

If you want to have the LOUDEST possible volume ranges for EVERY possible element of your phone, set all "AttenuationCategory" values to be the one you determined is the loudest for the Ringing, set all "InitVol" values to be "5", and set all "Attenuation" entries to be "5".

STEP 4:

Pat yourself on the back for having the LOUDEST phone out there.

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For Blue Angel:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\At tenuation]
"0"=dword:0
"1"=dword:1
"2"=dword:5

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ri ng]
"AttenuationCategory"=dword:2
"InitVol"=dword:5

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ri ngPreview]
"AttenuationCategory"=dword:1
"InitVol"=dword:5

For Himalaya:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\At tenuation]
"0"=dword:0
"1"=dword:1
"2"=dword:5
"3"=dword:1

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ri ng]
"AttenuationCategory"=dword:2
"InitVol"=dword:5

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ri ngPreview]
"AttenuationCategory"=dword:1
"InitVol"=dword:5

These were the same on BOTH of my devices, so I presumed they would be identical for all other devices. This is definitely NOT the case as we have determined. Again, my apologies to those early "beta" testers, but you can fix it now!!!

Please post your findings and results here for EVERYONE to benefit from them.

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P.S> Blue Angel users can check out the new TuMa v1.3 ROM as well ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42632
The patch can be applied to this ROM too, which will patch ALL of the default rings to LOUDER ones.
Also, the same procedure can be used to raise any and all of the volumes to the maximum possible.

[vivi]

Great !!
It works fine,but the sound volume is very weak.
How to increase the volume.??

Edit After installing version1.2 cab it absolutely works fine,Thanks.

[Tuatara]

Great !!
It works fine,but the sound volume is very weak.
How to increase the volume.??

Please try downloading the updated version. I've made the source WAV files louder (really to maximum). While my WMA to WAV conversion was probably adequate, I've now compressed/limited the WAVs for maximum output level and replaced them in the CABs.

Also, please ensure that the output volumes are at maximum. These updated WAVs should be loud enough, but if not then there is another problem with output volume which needs to be found.

Fix one thing ... but somehow there is always another issue ... *sigh* :roll:

[Diggia]

Good news.
I've just taken the cab and now I try this trick
Is this cab working with Wav files only ?
No WMA ? :cry:
Thanks to all :wink:

[Tuatara]

BTW: For your Ringtone ... ensure that it is FIRST amplified to the MAXIMUM volume possible.

Use Audacity (or similar), and then amplify the volume, and preferably do some soft limiting/compression on it to make it as loud as possible.

Then convert it to MONO, 16Bit, and if possible reduce the sampling rate to 11050Hz (11kHz).

While the quality will SUCK for listening ... as a LOUD volume Ringtone, it really doesn't matter that much when it's ringing in your pocket. 8)

[Tuatara]

[Post deleted since it was TOTAL mis-information and absolute bull$hit]

There is NO "InitVol" setting which can go above the maximum of 5.
Don't even bother trying to say otherwise. It's an "Urban Legend".

[taurus_bull2005]

Ok, since there are some of you who have some QUIET RING volume problems with the CAB file, here is a way to get LOUDER than LOUD ring tones. This will hopefully solve your problems, but will require Registry Editing to achieve.

Update the following registry entries to set the Volume higher than it is possible by default:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Al arm]
"InitVol"=dword:00000009
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Re minder]
"InitVol"=dword:00000009
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\No tification]
"InitVol"=dword:00000009
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Sy stem]
"InitVol"=dword:00000009
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ri ng]
"InitVol"=dword:00000009
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ri ngPreview]
"InitVol"=dword:00000009
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\In Call]
"InitVol"=dword:00000009

Generally you'd only want to modify "Ring" and possibly "RingPreview". Those are the ONLY two keys modified by the CAB, so you can compare the other key values to what they need to be on your phone.

Let me know if this has any success for those of you with quiet rings. It's possible that the Andes has different volume settings or issues.

The default maximum (generally allowable) value of "5" works perfectly on my Himalaya, and on the Blue Angel. It should be the same for all other devices, but then again ... M$ and OEMs in their infinite wisdom ...

Does not work??

[taurus_bull2005]

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Windows Mobile 5 - Ringing Delay Patch
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This CAB File will correct the very annoying, but very common problem of the 3 second Ringing Delay for Windows Mobile Phones.

Now updated to use LOUDER source WAV files !!!

You will now have your phone RING just after or maybe even WITHIN THE FIRST RING the caller hears!

There is only ONE caveat in using this CAB file and your phone ...

In order to benefit from the (nearly) instant ringing of your phone, you will NEED to convert ANY and ALL Ringtones you want to use into WAV format.

Using ANY other format will probably re-introduce the 3 second delay.

This CAB contains the default Rings converted to WAV files, and 'corrects' a number of registry entries so that these rings are directly available.

By default, your default Ring will be changed to "OldPhone". Test it first using this setting, and then feel free to change it to any other WAV file.

NOTE: There are TWO versions of the CAB file I've created:

1). Contains only the required registry changes for WAV playback improvements, and leaves the device power management intact. [ WM5_RingDelay_Patch.cab ]

2). Contains additional Power Management entries to keep the WAV device in a low-power, but not 'disabled' state for fast wakeup. This may use more battery power, but will ensure fast playback. [ WM5_RingDelay_Patch_PM.cab ]

This CAB should work for people having problems on all WM5 devices.
(Blue Angel, Universal, Wizard, Exec, Atom, etc.)

NOTE: You will NEED to soft-reset your device in order for the registry changes to take effect!

Remember ... you MUST use a WAV file as your Ringtone!

P.S> Blue Angel users can check out the new TuMa v1.2 ROM as well ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42632
The patch can be applied to this ROM as well, to patch ALL of the default rings, not just the "LoudOldPhone" default.

Does not work upgraded the Cab file Cheers, Taurus

[vivi]

Dear Tuatara,
It works fine, my XdaII rings just after or even WITHIN THE FIRST RING the caller hears as you said.
But the volume still too low,I change the registries as you wrote,not work.I also use Nero wave editor to increase it volume but the file is very big and quality is very poor.
Hard resetting 2 times today to gain the volume and use old wma.
Can you edit to use old wma or mp3 as ringtone? I think the quality of old wma is better.
Regards,
vivi

Edit After installing version1.2 cab it absolutely works fine,Thanks.

[RobSPVM2000]

Well I installed the 2nd version of the file. Yeah it rang almost right away, however it was sooooooo quiet it was useless. So I just uninstalled the file and went back to the standays one. Ide rather wait 2 secconds and be able to hear it, then have it right right away and not hear it !!.

[RobSPVM2000]

AHHGGGG, I have totaly uninstalled the 3 seccond ring tone fix but my phone still has a realy poor low volume ring tone now. What do i do to get it loaud again. I dont have any way to change the registry files, so I cant do that !!. What do i do ???

Thankyou
Rob

[RobSPVM2000]

AHHGGGG, I have totaly uninstalled the 3 seccond ring tone fix but my phone still has a realy poor low volume ring tone now. What do i do to get it loaud again. I dont have any way to change the registry files, so I cant do that !!. What do i do ???

Thankyou
Rob

[Tuatara]

My apologies for this ...

I have NOW updated the FIRST post with all of the details for correcting and resetting the volume level on your phone.

It does mean some MANUAL registry editing, but once you've completed that you can have the LOUDEST Ring and Phone possible.

Again ... sorry for the problems, but that's what BETA testing is all about.

For those who don't have it ... here's the PHM Registry Editor ...

Good Luck!

[vivi]

Dear Tuatara,
Both cab can't be instaledl in my device.
Thanks

[Tuatara]

Dear Tuatara,
Both cab can't be instaledl in my device.
Thanks

ARRRGH! (damn, damn, damn, damn ... grrrr)

Right ... dumb, stupid mistake when assembling the CAB files for final versions. I've just had far too little sleep in the past few days.

I've uploaded NEW versions, and reset the download counters in the FIRST post again. This time, I've tested the final ones, and they are working.

PLEASE let me know if you've been able to reset your Ring Volume appropriately with the intructions in the post above. PM me if you have problems with it, since I don't want to cause people to Hard-Reset to try and recover from this - it is a very simple registry fix.

[vivi]

GREAT GREAT GREAT!!!!!
WORKS!!!!!
No Registries edit,just only install new version WM5_RingDelay_Patch_PM.cab and Soft Restet.
Thanks Tuatara...

vivi
XdaII PH10B
WM5 2.00v 64WWE
Radio 1.18
Protocol 1337.38

[vivi]

Very strange!!!
It is too loud when using wav file in cab as Ringtone,so I try setting my mp3 as ringtone.The volume of mp3 ringtone is as equal as before install the cab,but it rings immediately as wav!!!!
Any idea ???

Edit After installing version1.2 cab it absolutely works fine,Thanks.

[Tuatara]

GREAT GREAT GREAT!!!!!
WORKS!!!!!
No Registries edit,just only install new version WM5_RingDelay_Patch_PM.cab and Soft Restet.
Thanks Tuatara...

vivi
XdaII PH10B
WM5 2.00v 64WWE
Radio 1.18
Protocol 1337.38

Right ... *whew*wipes*brow* ... that is GREAT news. This means that the CAB will now work for everyone WITHOUT any registry changes!!!

If you DO want your device to have a Ring Tone which is as LOUD as possible (or if you need to fix things from my previous 'bad' CAB), then you OPTIONALLY can set up your device to have the loudest settings possible. This would effectively make the loudest volume on your device the same maximum volume used for "Handsfree" operation.

At least now the 3 ring delay on WM5 devices can be properly eliminated!

But remember ... use only WAV files ... so convert those Ring Tones!

For your conversions, you CAN use any MONO, 16 bit WAV file from 8kHz to 48kHz sampling rate. Obviously, the smaller it is, the better the performance (has to load less data from your device/storage), so choose the lowest sampling rate which gives you a good sounding Ring Tone.

Another good thing to do is maximize the volume of the converted WAV file, and possibly use a Compressor/Limiter on it to further increase the output levels. A very good tool to use for this is COOL EDIT PRO, or for a freeware one, use AUDACITY. Both have the ability to make the Ring Tone as loud as possible without (much) distortion. This is what I have done to the default Ring Tones I included in the CAB, which should be VERY loud, and are also quite reasonably small.

Enjoy your responsive devices now ... no excuses anymore to miss those calls!

[Tuatara]

Very strange!!!
It is too loud when using wav file in cab as Ringtone,so I try setting my mp3 as ringtone.The volume of mp3 ringtone is as equal as before install the cab,but it rings immediately as wav!!!!
Any idea ???

Maybe I've made the volumes in the WAV files 'too loud'! :D

But it's probably better having it 'too loud' than 'too quiet' ... I really have gone from one extreme to the other now. ;)

Anyways, I'd recommend to just turn down your 'Ring Volume' if it is too loud for you now. :!:

[vivi]

Some mp3 can ring immediately,some are 3 sec delay.
I think the size of file is the main problem.
I use 300 KB mp3,it rings immediately,but 600 KB mp3 delay.
I test while power off and mp3 ringtones are in root of RAMdisk.

This is only for info.

[Tuatara]

Some mp3 can ring immediately,some are 3 sec delay.
I think the size of file is the main problem.
I use 300 KB mp3,it rings immediately,but 600 KB mp3 delay.
I test while power off and mp3 ringtones are in root of RAMdisk.

This is only for info.

Very Interesting ... I think that there are a couple of other factors at play here as well.

1). You're running the file off RamDisk, so Flash Access times are NOT a factor
2). Buffering/Loading time of file IS a factor. The MP3 decode may need to load the full play buffer into memory before it can start.
3). Using a WAV file, it can play the buffer AS IT LOADS which is also why WAV files give the best response.

There may be a 'magic point' at which MP3s still work, or work with little delay ... but WAV is guaranteed to work, regardless of file size, since it can be played immediately - even if it is still 'loading'.

[Tuatara]

I've made some new CAB files with the default rings now appropriately edited for everyone.

Normal - Standard Conversion of WMA to WAV with only resampling and cleanup done.
Loud - Each resultant waveform was amplified to a clean maximum volume without any compression or limiting.
Loudest - The waveforms were maximally compressed/limited, and will really make your device ring LOUD.

For the power management one, I've only used the 'Normal' Ring Tones, but you can install ANY of the other CABs over top (afterwards) to change the Ring Tone Volumes as you wish. The registry entries added will be kept for Power Management.

Now the 3 ring delay and volume issues have finally been properly solved.

[taurus_bull2005]

I've made some new CAB files with the default rings now appropriately edited for everyone.

Normal - Standard Conversion of WMA to WAV with only resampling and cleanup done.
Loud - Each resultant waveform was amplified to a clean maximum volume without any compression or limiting.
Loudest - The waveforms were maximally compressed/limited, and will really make your device ring LOUD.

For the power management one, I've only used the 'Normal' Ring Tones, but you can install ANY of the other CABs over top (afterwards) to change the Ring Tone Volumes as you wish. The registry entries added will be kept for Power Management.

Now the 3 ring delay and volume issues have finally been properly solved.

I installed the loudest one on DOPOD 900, Still the volume is very low. Changed the Attenuation Settings as well , did soft reset. None of the above seems to be working. Please suggest.

How can i restore the original settings back i mean uninstall the CAB file?

Cheers, Taurus

[Tuatara]

I installed the loudest one on DOPOD 900, Still the volume is very low. Changed the Attenuation Settings as well , did soft reset. None of the above seems to be working. Please suggest.

The issue is that the original CAB file I created set incorrect registry entries for your device's AttentuationCategory settings for Ring.

First, ensure that your phone is set to a GOOD ring tone - like "Windows Default", or "Old Phone". Something which we know is fine. Also ensure that the volume is up to maximum, and vibrate is not on.

Then ... please do the following to get back your LOUD ringing volume:

1). Go to: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Att enuation]
2). Write down the current values for all entries, i.e. "0" = 0, "1" = 5, etc.
3). Count the number of entries you had above. There are probably 3 or 4 in total.
4). Change ALL of these entries to the value "5"
5). Go to: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Rin g]
6). Change "InitVol" to 5
7). Change "AttenuationCategory" to 0
8). Ring your phone, and see if the volume is loud
9). If yes, then "0" is your LOUDEST AttenuationCategory and we're done. If no, then add 1 to the "AttenuationCategory" value, and go back to Step 7.
10). Repeat this loop (7 - 9) until you have gone through ALL possible AttenuationCategories you had counted in step 3 above.
11). ONE of those values (0, 1, 2, ...) will be the LOUD Ringing value. You will find it.
12). When you've found it, you can then reset the values in [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Att enuation] back to what they were before ... or you can leave them all at "5" to have the largest volume range available.
13). You should now have your loud ring back.

Optionally, you can now make ALL things loud on your phone (if you want), since you know the "AttenuationCategory" which gives you the loudest volume.

I hope this helps you sort it out. Apologies for the mistake in the CAB earlier.

[taurus_bull2005]

I installed the loudest one on DOPOD 900, Still the volume is very low. Changed the Attenuation Settings as well , did soft reset. None of the above seems to be working. Please suggest.

The issue is that the original CAB file I created set incorrect registry entries for your device's AttentuationCategory settings for Ring.

First, ensure that your phone is set to a GOOD ring tone - like "Windows Default", or "Old Phone". Something which we know is fine. Also ensure that the volume is up to maximum, and vibrate is not on.

Then ... please do the following to get back your LOUD ringing volume:

1). Go to: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Att enuation]
2). Write down the current values for all entries, i.e. "0" = 0, "1" = 5, etc.
3). Count the number of entries you had above. There are probably 3 or 4 in total.
4). Change ALL of these entries to the value "5"
5). Go to: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Rin g]
6). Change "InitVol" to 5
7). Change "AttenuationCategory" to 0
8). Ring your phone, and see if the volume is loud
9). If yes, then "0" is your LOUDEST AttenuationCategory and we're done. If no, then add 1 to the "AttenuationCategory" value, and go back to Step 7.
10). Repeat this loop (7 - 9) until you have gone through ALL possible AttenuationCategories you had counted in step 3 above.
11). ONE of those values (0, 1, 2, ...) will be the LOUD Ringing value. You will find it.
12). When you've found it, you can then reset the values in [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Att enuation] back to what they were before ... or you can leave them all at "5" to have the largest volume range available.
13). You should now have your loud ring back.

Optionally, you can now make ALL things loud on your phone (if you want), since you know the "AttenuationCategory" which gives you the loudest volume.

I hope this helps you sort it out. Apologies for the mistake in the CAB earlier.

Does'nt work.

I have 3 attenuation categories on dopod 900, i have changed all the settings mentioned above to 5 & changed the attenuation categories one by one as mentioned above. The state is same even after changing it.

Please suggest. Cheers Taurus

[Tuatara]

I hope this helps you sort it out. Apologies for the mistake in the CAB earlier.

Does'nt work.

I have 3 attenuation categories on dopod 900, i have changed all the settings mentioned above to 5 & changed the attenuation categories one by one as mentioned above. The state is same even after changing it.

Please suggest. Cheers Taurus

If you have 3 categories, (0, 1, 2) then there are only 3 possibilities for the value. One of those IS the right one - there can't be any others.

Try changing the Attenuation values to "0" instead of "5" (i.e. the other end of the spectrum) and go through all 3 possibilities again. But there are only 3 possible settings, so the fact that you couldn't find it doesn't make sense. Maybe your device requires a soft-reset between settings? Both my Himalaya and Blue Angel did not.

Can someone else who has a dopod 900 please post or PM the default registry settings for the keys listed above to Taurus, so he can sort out his device?

I'm sorry I can't help any further. There were no other registry keys which were modified by the CAB - so if there still is an issue, I have no idea what it could be.

I'm now going to be away for 2 weeks, so hopefully someone here can post the default settings for your device. If worst comes to worst, you may need to do a hard-reset to restore your registry from default settings.

[orateam]

where is the .cab?
I don't want to reflash the whole thing again.

thanks

[Symmetric]

Cingular 8125 (Wizard) works with the EXACT specs in the reg edit. I'm used to a Sony Ericsson s710, so I put the volume at 6 and it's nice and loud. I can actually hear the mp3 ringtome over the vibrator :D

[paztal]

i have a mio a701. i did what you wrote but there is no change.
Do you have any solution for this model?
By the way, I don 't have audiogain in the HTC sub directory.
Thanks.

[sayadil]

[quote="paztal"]i have a mio a701. i did what you wrote but there is no change.
Do you have any solution for this model?
By the way, I don 't have audiogain in the HTC sub directory.
Thanks.[/quote


while the wave files r working faster...i don't like thier quality or the size... i have mp3 ringtones in my windows/rings folder and the phone takes about 2 ring delay to start ringing so i would rather wait 2-3 secs at this point.... i wish if anyone could work with MP3 files.. to me it seems like the delay has something to do with file access .. but i'm not a tech either.
would love to get the mp3 working.. on the other note mp3 work fine in a Vario... so i'm guessing there has to be a way somehow.

[jeegnesh]

I am running Phone Alarm 1.53 mainly to use profiles in order to control volumes for different times of the day or depending where I am etc etc.

I am using wav ringtones only.

Can I use this ring delay patch, will it stop PhoneAlarm working ? Which cab should I use if they would both work together ?

[mambojambo]

I want to know too..

[kinmont]

works well on myxv6700 . thank you just what i needed!

[gwassef]

Dear Tuatara
does the cab file with loudest settings need any manual edits ? also do they work fine for wizard or not

[nz120]

thanks for the advice on the ringer volume.

Now I have still have the problem of missing incoming texts because the Notification sound is too soft (not like my old Nokia which was so loud as to be embarrassing).

1. Can the sound be made louder
2. Can you assign a sound other than in the default list?

This is on a NZ PDA2K

thanks
Andrew
Auckland NZ

[Prerna]

Will the delay be fixed for newer HTCs, such as the TyTn, with these cabs?

[jav786]

Hi All,
Just like to say thank you Tuatara for the hard work for making this brilliant cab file to solve the 3 ring delay. I used the cab file with power management and it worked like a charm no problems at all on my orange M5000 (universal). At least now I can hear it straight away!! It even seems to work with midi tones which reside on my storage card!
Thanks again
Orange M5000
ROM 1.30.90.WWE, Radio 1.13.00, Ext Rom 1.30.174.WWE

[magix]

tested the volume registry fix. it works on my vario. the only problem i've encountered is that if i put the settings to the max (in registry) it stays that way until i change the ringer volume (using slide keys). when i do that i have to readjust the "init_vol" registry keys to the max value (in both ring and ring preview). hope this helps

[laxity]

I tried the PM cab and the Normal cab files but after a soft-reset I don't notice any difference. :( When my phone rings there is still a delay as my XDA exec tries to wake
up and draw the incoming call box on the screen. Even then my ringtones always seem to stutter during playback as if it is struggling for CPU or something.

I never had the stuttering ringtone on my old XDA II running WM2003SE. Seems strange why WM5 on a faster device should struggle so much.

On WM2003 there was a hack to increase the priority of the audio device. Is there something similar for WM5?

Any ideas?

Cheers,
Richard.

[al_fetoohi]

I installed the cab but in sleep mode still the delay is there can u help me please, my phone is jasjar.
thanks.

[allstargajo]

Hello everyone,

I too am enable to notice any difference when the phone is in sleep mode. Actually, my delay is more of 5 or 6 seconds. I applied both the normal and the power_management cabs but to no success.
My Himalaya is using ROM version 2.03a.64WWE with radio version 1.17.

Hope someone can shed some light on this.

[joef]

Hello RobSPVM2000,

My SoftBank X01HT with WM6 ROM get the same problem, and my delay is at least 5 or 6 seconds and more, but the CAB file does't work, can you update it and make it work on my device,Thanks!

[mr_ding]

Same for me, if my PDA is on. The phone rings right away (as soon as the calling phone starts ringing, my PDA is ringing at the same time.

However, if the PDA is off, it takes 3 extra seconds/rings before my PDA starts ringing (ie. from the calling phone, I notice, it rings 3 times before my PDA starts ringing)

[art12345]

Can this patch make louder playing my MP3 ringotes? Is this working for WAV sms sounds too?

[renovator]

On a PDA2K (PH20B) with Windows Mobile 2003, the ring volume is also very low. The patch is for Windows Mobile 2005. Do you have a patch for WM2003? I tried the registry edits to increase the ring volume, but that didn't seem to help. The Ring Tones being used are .WAV files.

Thanks

[blackhat52]

Sounds great, will solve me not being able to hear my phone, however isn't it possible by doing this you can blow the speaker??

[joseppfit02]

Hi,

It's this cab's (3s. rings delay) also for my HTC 3600 W Mobile 6 ?

Thank's !

[kurgandk]

im interested will this work on a htc touch diamond? wm6.1?

[Bandit13]

Tested on my diamond !

WAV et WMA (64 Kbits) ringtone have 1 Ring Delay !!!
MP3 Ringtone has 2 or 3 Ring Delay

Seb = = = o>°o

[AlexTM]

Anybody can confirm that the cab is working fine on the Htc Diamond ??
Please I need the confirmation.Thanks !

[AlexTM]

Anybody can confirm that the cab is working fine on the Htc Diamond ??
Please I need the confirmation.Thanks !


Nobody can confirm this ???

[_JuSteR_]

Anybody can confirm that the cab is working fine on the Htc Diamond ??
Please I need the confirmation.Thanks !

UP.

There's no Audiogain folder under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC on my Diamond.

[_JuSteR_]

Tested on my HTC Diamond.

Using a wav file the ringtone starts in time with the first ring, but sound isn't fluid.

[Trev16v]

I'd like to say many thanks indeed for doing this work. This morning I have tested the 1.2 cab (for loudest ring) on my HTC Diamond and it works a treat. I did find that the Attenuation Category was already pointing at the loudest attenuation setting and I confirmed this by changing it (I could only get it to go quieter).

This patch, along with a new ROM and better alarm clock application, have meant that my HTC Diamond is starting to work like a proper phone now and not just a fancy looking toy. I came ever so close to demanding that Vodafone exchange it for a Blackberry or something - I'm glad I held onto it now though!

[aeratos]

great very nice

[joseppfit02]

Hello Tuatara and other Members.

Ringtone delay solved in my HTC Touch Pro. Thank's !

Now I need to incrase power-sound of my speaker when somebody call me.

I read in .cab "Readme.txt "How to set your device to have the ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM Ring Tone Volume" :

...First you will need to go to the following key in the Registry:
(NOTE: The actual value in the key may be different depending on your model.)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\AUDIOGAIN]
"SPEAKER_UPLINK_VOLUME"=hex:10

I arrive at "...Software\HTC" but I dont see AUDIOGAIN

My Touch Pro run at WM 6, is diferent set process?

Thank's !

[joseppfit02]

I have a problem when I install "wm5_ringdelay_patch_normal-v1.2.zip" in my Diamond Pro:

Dont ring incomming calls (I see incoming call but ring-tone dont ring)
Sometimes ring at 1st call but 2ond and more it's dont ring...
When I delete this program cab, calls ring normaly.
Is it any solution?
Thank's !

[redliner51]

Is there any solution to put the ringtone on the RAM, so it can be played immediately and without any delay?

[justosay]

For the people who wants to solve the volume problem and is using HTC Diamond, please refer to the below post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428170
(I use the lighter boost version)

In fact, even if I amended the registry or installed "Diamond Tweak 0.5", it cannot fully solve the 3-sec delay problem. Anyone know how to fix it?

[bugsykoosh]

I've tried this out on a Tilt and it has not changed the default settings and now that I know about the problem it annoys me even more;) are there registry changes that can be made that anyone knows of? Thanks

[stevenmh]

Just tried this on a Sprint Touch Pro. No good.

First started with the PM version. This disabled ringtones altogether, and vibration still kicked in late.

Installed the loudest version over top. This gave me back ringtones, but still delayed. Anywhere from 1 - 2 rings on the calling phone before the Pro starts ringing.

[sandeepn81]

Hi,

Does this application work for Diamond?
Diamond has Windows Mobile 6... But I believe windows applications have to be backward compatible?

Can anyone confirm that it won't atleast break the diamond? or has anyone tried this successfully on Diamond?

Please advice...

Regards,
Sandeep

[Kueh]

Yes, the first cab file works. It's just a registry tweak/ In fact, they are all registry tweaks. The last three probably won't work as the registry entries may not be there.

If you want to do it yourself, look here. (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RegistryRingtoneScripts)

[sandeepn81]

Thanks a lot mate... thats great help

[moto0001]

Hi,
my Diamond starts ringing emediatly but always stops for a second and continues again ringing after a short break.

[rollrsk8ter]

I was testing with my home phone, out of the box..I heard 5 rings on the phone before the diamond would start to ring. I installed the first cab from this post and now it starts on the 2nd ring, but the 2nd ring is breaking up, after that..3rd ...4th...5th...etc ring work as expected.

[Sil3ncer]

I installed the first one on my Touch Pro. Works after one ring but for some reason the call would end by itself. A bug?

[charliet009]

Fantastic, i have just installed the loudest cab file to a U.K. Orange touch diamond wm 6.1 and it works fine. the very annoying delay is gone. thanks all, great site.:)

[koentje]

Does NOT work for my diamond. It will mess up all of my ringtones!

[Sil3ncer]

Anyone can help with this thing? It doesn't work. It automatically ends my incoming calls after only one ring on my TP.

[BigDede]

Anyone can help with this thing? It doesn't work. It automatically ends my incoming calls after only one ring on my TP.

Have you converted your ring tones to .wav file???

[Sil3ncer]

Yes I have.

[tejesh83]

On my Sprint HTC Pro, I find that installing the 1st cab only seems to temporarily fix the ring delay. After installing the cab and a soft reset, the phone rings quickly within the 1st couple seconds. However, eventually, and I'm not sure when or what's causing it yet, but it goes back to its old behavior of a very delayed ring (upto 10sec). I've reinstalled the cab 3 times now and its happened each time, but I'm no closer to narrowing down the culprit.

According to a similar post on ppcgeeks, it seems to be related to the HTC TF3D dialer. If you switch the dialer to the Window Mobile default, the delay seems to go away. Only the HTC dialer seems to have this significant delay problem.

I've switched to the WM dialer for now, since I've missed so many calls as a result of the delay with the HTC one. But I miss the eye candy and the handy contacts scroll feature among other things. Anyone have any suggestions or ideas on why the cab is only temporarily working with the HTC dialer? What exactly does the cab modify?

[Jalfrezi]

scanning through bookmarked for trial 2moro when im less drunk :)

[jmilt13]

Does this work for VZW cdma Touch Pro?

[dannyng]

I just install the cab and it work fine, Kudos to the developer.

However, I have the same problem with most of the people here, the 2nd ringing tone breakup.

Hopefully there is a fix for this. Anyway, thanks again to the developer.

[HertogJanNL]

What is it exactly what the .cab does, except giving .wav versions of ringtones? Can I do those no-delay registry fixes myself? Because I use a very small .wav ringtone anyway, so I only need to fix the delay.

I use the original HTC Diamond TF3D dialer with slide-to-answer patch, so I'm looking for a fix that fixes the delay when not using the standard WM dialer.

See also my post here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3161678&postcount=9).

[dannyng]

This apps is great but too bad no more respond from the developer.

I found two small bug :

a) In sleep mode, the delay 3 seconds still there
b) It breaking up during 2nd ring tone.

Anyone have solution on this?

Thanks in advance.

[kkchan]

Hi,
Anyone know what does the registry value changed by cab file?

Thank you

[kkchan]

Hi,
Anyone know what does the registry value changed by cab file?

Thank you

[HertogJanNL]

Hi,
Anyone know what does the registry value changed by cab file?

Thank you

I'm still waiting for that answer too :(

[decrpty]

Super! works on my HTC diamond.... finally i can just pick up the phone immediatly nice :D

[kkchan]

Hi,
After install this to my HTC HD, it can't play any sound when incoming call. Any ideas?

Thank you

[Beejis]

Works great on the Touch Pro, thanks!

[dazza7111]

I'm still waiting for that answer too :(

heres the reg file, think change to your ringtone?

[ps change from .txt to .reg]

[HertogJanNL]

heres the reg file, think change to your ringtone?

[ps change from .txt to .reg]

Thanks! Looks like a nice patch, although I'm not sure what this section does:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds]
"Ringtones"=hex(7):57,69,6e,64,6f,77,73,20,44,65,66,61,75,6c, 74,20,2e,77,61,\
76,00,52,69,6e,67,65,72,20,2e,77,61,76,00,4f,6c,64 ,50,68,6f,6e,65,20,2e,77,61,\
76,00,46,61,6e,74,61,73,79,20,2e,77,61,76,00,4a,69 ,67,20,2e,77,61,76,00,4d,79,\
73,74,69,63,20,2e,77,61,76,00,52,6f,61,72,69,6e,67 ,47,75,69,74,61,72,20,2e,77,\
61,76,00,54,65,72,72,65,73,74,72,69,61,6c,20,2e,77 ,61,76,00,00

[w3x3y3z3]

I cannot download files for 3rings delay.
Are they still available?

[lildeb]

Hi There,

I'm new to the HTC Touch Pro world, and so far I really like the phone, but there are some things that drive me crazy. The delayed ring is one of them. I am trying to download the fix, but it looks as thought it's unavailable.

The second thing that drives me crazy about this phone is the battery life. I'm lucky if I get 6 hours of standby time. I believe the battery life to be directly related to the signal strength. Low signal KILLS my battery. However, being new to this forum, I don't know if this issue has already been discussed in another thread. If so, could someone please post the link and I'm happy to read up on what's been done about it.

Thanks to everyone who has worked so hard to make this phone even better.

Deb

[mobi2000]

I cannot download files for 3rings delay.
Are they still available?

same problem here :(

[mobi2000]

same problem here :(

could anyone upload the files again? pleaseeeee :)

[blacriderv]

Same ^^ If someone got that :rolleyes:

[w3x3y3z3]

I shall be grateful if anyone can upload the files again as I cannot download them.
Thanks in advance

[HertogJanNL]

OK here it is... I only have the normal one.

[darren.reynolds]

I shall be grateful if anyone can upload the files again as I cannot download them.
Thanks in advance

If anyone has the rest that would be helpful ... the original links still aren't working and I was hoping to try the PM version ...

[muccamucca]

It works correctly on my HTC touch Pro ... thanks

[chuck_so]

On my O2 Diamond I installed normal patch. Now it promptly starts to ring but just moment after, it mades a dely in ringing (no sound), and after that it contiunes to play ringtone normaly. I converted ringotnes to WAV with sound forge and even try to lower them to 32khz.

Any solution to this!? :confused:

Maybe it is becouse I am using Resco Contact Manager 1.11, but I do not keep it resident in memory,and I do not use option to Resco handle my incoming calls.

This simmilar pause also had when I put diferent ringotne to contact from phonebook. Then phone first starts to play the default ringtone, and second after it delays, and start to play the one I assigned to contact.

[minuszero]

I have ring_delay_Loudest

See Attached :)

[legacy_gn]

Thank You. I just go the HTC touch pro and was going to send it back to verizon. Morons there knew nothing about it.

[ochuat]

the title said WM5
does it work on WM6.1?

[ochuat]

if it doesn't work, do i get a chance to revert it back?
any cab to revert it back or i can just uninstall it by remove software

still dare not to try

[muccamucca]

the title said WM5
does it work on WM6.1?
As I said, yes on my toch pro WM 6.1

[daddypew]

Works on my HTC Touch Diamond - about 1 ring and all's good. Many thanks

[bharat4ever]

Can anyone please post the exact registry entry that is to be changed for the 3 sec delay ?
I already have installed a cab for increasing the volume, and dont want to mess taht up by installing another one on top of that... Thanks in advance.

[finlay777]

I have ring_delay_Loudest

See Attached :)

Have anyone try this on blackstone? Does it work with the HTC dialer that is causing the incoming call ring delay???

[raymondtrudeau]

i have the htc touch pro and i want to install the new wma ringdlay normal
12.v

do i still need to go into the registry or can i just install the cab file? thanks

[BlackFriar]

I'm somewhat newer at this, but can anyone provide the changes made to the power settings in the cab?

[papyturbo]

Thanx Tuatara!!!

Works fine on my Diamond (without bothering about volume which is ok).
I now get 4 rings instead of 3 before transfer to voicemail, which may even become enough to answer one call here or there ??? :p

[simppleguy]

Dear Tutara,

I have used ur Method, everything works fine....... but....... one problem is there when we lock the mobile and pur mobile off to put in our pocket. when call comes it takes 7 to 8 rings delay. I am loosing all my call due to dat. Please any one can help
URGENTLY........

Pls pls.........

Awaiting on Favourable reply.......

[simppleguy]

ples reply guys it's very very urgent.

[iiik]

Hi

I've had this delay and almost given up on it.

But I tried the cab found here (wm5_ringdelay_patch_normal-v1.2[1].zip) along with a custom .wav ringtone on 800kb and it rings on the second ring. Its a really big improvement.

The phone im using is a TYTN 2 on wm 6.1.

Tanks so much for all you people, both the ones who produce the stuff and those who test it out.

[pl@cebo]

Will that actually work on Samsung Omnia II as well!?
With WM 6.5?

[fatsasss]

guys i have HTC HD wm6.5 .

Can you help me ? I want to fix the 3 seconds delay.

i downloaded the first and the last cab , but i didnt fix it.

How do i fix it ?

thanks

[aeroflyluby]

guys i have HTC HD wm6.5 .

Can you help me ? I want to fix the 3 seconds delay.

i downloaded the first and the last cab , but i didnt fix it.

How do i fix it ?

thanks

No, we can't help you. Ask it in HTC HD forum