View Full Version : Blue Angel Crashes sometimes but with a Twist!
andytl
13-03-2006, 10:41 PM
Here's one for the boffins on here.My BA crashes but it does it in the same place when getting in my car!!! Does the BA have a temperature issue or could it be a Static electricity problem.I have been racking my brains trying to sus this out, thought it could be the radio signal from the key but have tested that and no problems. It only happens once in the car.I do occasionally get that jolt from the handle when opening the car could this be it? Anybody else found this happening to them?
How exactly does it crash? Is there anything on the screen? Does it require a soft reset? Hard reset? What OS/ROM are you using (see Settings/Device Information)?
Are there strong electromagnetic fields from car equipment (speakers, magnet mounts, radio transmitters, etc.)?
You mentioned static electricity. That should not affect the BA unless the BA was in the direct path of the shock, i.e. it had to go through the BA. If it went from your hand to the ground, or from your hand to the air surrounding your skin, then the BA would not be in the direct path, even if it were attached to you.
But even on the small chance that the surface area of the BA relative to the surface area of your skin were large enough to induce a tiny charge which could be detected by the BA during your shock, you can eliminate that immediately, by storing the BA in a metal case. Just for fun, try wrapping the BA in aluminum foil and see if it still happens. You can play mp3s or something to hear whether it crashes.
Does it happen on the driver's side only, or passenger's as well?
When exactly does the crash occur? When you click the key opener? When you open the door? When you sit down? When you start the car? When you change gear? Where (on your person) is the BA all this time, and what state is it in (on, off, running a particular program)?
Is the BA's battery okay? Maintains charge? Does it have a poor connection to the BA, and can the contacts come loose from expansion due to temperature changes and/or from pressure applied externally to the case when entering the car (such as from your pocket or from touching the seat)?
Is the crash SD-card related? Does it happen if you remove the SD card, either immediately or when entering the car? Does it happen if you wiggle the SD card without removing it?
Do you have a WiFi or BT connection which goes in or out of range when entering your car? If so, what are your connection settings and ROM versions?
Does it happen if the keyboard tray is opened and closed?
Are you sure you that have the BA's buttons locked when power is turned off, and aren't pressing them accidentally?
andytl
17-03-2006, 08:32 PM
WOW !!! Right first things first I am using the T-mobile 1.42 rom from this site with the latest radio version 1.15 and it is running win 2003 se, but the fault has happened on 3 different roms that I have used 1. was original O2 rom then the latest O2 rom and finally at present the T-Mobile 1.42 rom.
I have already dismissed the key fob and my car has no big stereo system just standard fitted speakers there is also no radio transmitter of any kind in the car.I have tried the the keyboard sliding in and out and no problems there and also no bt connection or wifi switched on.As for the sd card I have used it in other xda's and have had no problems except the blanking of the card due to other known issues with the original xda.Cant really wrap it up in foil as it does not happen everytime just occasionally but always while getting in the car.I use the BA allday long listening to MP3'3 and some surfing with no faults whatsover so Looks like I am back to square one.
m8internet
17-03-2006, 10:38 PM
I have a similar problem on my orange SPV M2000
Mine crashes (stalls) when in the in-car charging cradle
The occurances vary, sometimes when inserting, sometimes when in use, sometimes at the end of use
I have not had this happen (yet) when on battery power or when using the USB power-up cradle
I have not been able to pin this down to any specific use, but I suspect the BA cannot cope with indirect voltage variances supplied from the in-car chargers
rjsmyth
22-03-2006, 11:54 AM
Same here - we have 100 XDAiis in ThinkNavi GPS cradles and they occassionally lock with a blank screen when being taken in or out of the cradle. The lock is total - no key press or stylus soft reset will unlock them - the only cure is to remove the battery for a few seconds and on replacing the battery the unit hard resets - incredibly irritating - all software has to be re loaded. One user who has had this problem many times is now trialling a Carcomm Cradle.
andytl
23-03-2006, 09:56 PM
Well guys have found out what the cause it was my Arkon screen mount have already replaced it once but the new one arrived yesterday and guess what as soon as the BA touches the conector on the mount zap it crashes so culprit found trouble is now what do i do for a mount will i get the same problems with another one?
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